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NEW POLL SAYS CONDI WAS DANDY
New York Post ^ | 4/10/04 | DEBORAH ORIN

Posted on 04/10/2004 2:15:24 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:20:34 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

April 10, 2004 -- WASHINGTON - Condoleezza Rice's testimony to the 9/11 commission gave a boost to President Bush and helped convince Americans that his administration did all that could be expected to prevent the terrorist attacks, a new CNN poll shows. The poll - taken Thursday after blanket TV coverage of Rice's dramatic appearance - found that 48 percent of Americans now think Bush did all that could be expected while 40 percent disagree. That's a big shift from 10 days ago when 54 percent said Bush didn't do everything possible - that was at the peak of the furor over Richard Clarke's claim that the president was asleep at the switch.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911commission; condirice; condoleezzarice; polls; ricetestimony; testimony
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1 posted on 04/10/2004 2:15:24 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
14% boost, Wow!!!

Of course, all this hub bub now about the PDB but I had a discussion with some women (most don't follow political issues) and even the "uninformed" commented on how exactly was the President supposed to stop the attack from happening since we only had threats and no specifics.

Fox News is a big help because since a majority of cable listeners are tuning to them, at least the dissection of the news is done by fairly "logical" people.

Not like ABC with Jennings and Richard Clarke commenting on Condi's "inquisition."

Americans are funny, they stand up for the underdog, and it's starting to feel like the Bush administration is being "picked on." (which of course we know they are)

It will backfire on the Dems if America perceives the hearings as a witch-hunt.
2 posted on 04/10/2004 2:22:41 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: dawn53
Americans are funny, they stand up for the underdog

That is an odd trait we have isn't it?
3 posted on 04/10/2004 3:06:16 AM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: kattracks
Condi Rice came across as a very articulate and informed. I think her testimony surprised a lot of people who had never heard her speak.
4 posted on 04/10/2004 3:12:47 AM PDT by boxerblues ("We wanted to kill the people inside," said Lieutenant Colonel Brennan Byrne on bombing of mosque)
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To: kattracks
Fox News Channel notched 1.9 million viewers from 9 a.m. to noon, while CNN grabbed 1.2 million and MSNBC had 470,000.

Fox has 4 times the amount of viewers than MSNBC, the home of sodium pentathol Chrissy Matthews.

5 posted on 04/10/2004 3:17:26 AM PDT by Dane
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To: kattracks
Too bad they didn't also ask whether Clinton had done all he could.
6 posted on 04/10/2004 3:18:29 AM PDT by maryz
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To: texasflower
I think it's an admirable trait, but not one that is seen in the "world at large."

In most cultures, in fact, in nature, "survival of the fittest" is the predominent issue.

I think our Judeo-Christian background makes us more compassionate, preferring to be on the side of a "fair fight" and therefore, less tolerant of folks who "gang up" or seem to bully others.
7 posted on 04/10/2004 3:26:13 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: boxerblues
The Dims insured that there would be a large audience for Condi's testimony. I think they were under the impression that their attack dogs (with an apology to dogs) would intmidate her.

Boy, were they surprised.

I believe Condi illustrated to many that there are now adults in the WH, who, for a change, have the best interests of the US at heart.

8 posted on 04/10/2004 3:26:52 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
We listened to her speak on the radio so I didn't get to see it until later when it replayed on CSpan. On the radio her voice at first sounded nervous and several people in my office picked up on this, and started commenting that Bush was going burn after her testimony. When you see her speak you saw no signs nervousness or lack of composure.

The attack dogs got sent home with their tails tucked between their legs.
9 posted on 04/10/2004 3:34:54 AM PDT by boxerblues ("We wanted to kill the people inside," said Lieutenant Colonel Brennan Byrne on bombing of mosque)
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To: kattracks
Condi is quite a contrast with Joycelyn Elders, isn't she?

Clinton's idea of what America looked like (I'm going to have a cabinet that looks like America) became clear when we looked at his appointees. His opinion of America was obviously low. Bush, by comparison, has surrounded himself with very capable people.

When some people suggested a few months ago that Condi might be a candidate for president in 2008, I didn't give it much of a chance, because she just wasn't that well known. But if she continues to be in the public eye, and carries herself as well as she has during this episode, she just might have a chance.
10 posted on 04/10/2004 3:52:56 AM PDT by Rocky (It was Al Qaeda, stupid!)
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To: dawn53
...and even the "uninformed" commented on how exactly was the President supposed to stop the attack from happening since we only had threats and no specifics.

A "semi-informed" coworker came back with the same response. She's seeing this as a witch hunt also and thinks this is all a big waste of time and money: instead of trying to pin the blame President Bush, she says they should be working on how to protect this country and keep it from happening again. She was also very impressed with Condi herself, saying we have the right people in the right place at the right time.

I think this is going to backfire big time on the Dems in a lot of ways. This supposable "racist" Republican president has filled his cabinet with intelligent and capable people, regardless of race. The Dems were exposed for the Rats they are - the difference in their method, courtesy, and respect during their inquiries of Richard Clark who has no credibility left and of Condi who has tons of credibility were like night and day. Fawning all over Clark, interrupting and attacking Condi. Yep, the DemocRats are going to regret this one.

11 posted on 04/10/2004 4:02:41 AM PDT by Ladysmith (If 10% is good enough for God, it should be good enough for the IRS!)
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To: dawn53
I agree. Nicely said.
12 posted on 04/10/2004 4:08:10 AM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: boxerblues
I noticed the same thing. Her voice did sound shaky on the radio. I then went to a TV and she looked very confident. She had each person planned out. She knew which ones would give her trouble and seemed to almost know what they would ask her. She had memorized the issues that would reveal their hypocrisy.
13 posted on 04/10/2004 4:19:06 AM PDT by auggy (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
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To: kattracks
Bump for Condi!
14 posted on 04/10/2004 4:37:27 AM PDT by ride the whirlwind (GOP - grace over pressure)
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To: kattracks
Shows that the majority of American are a bunch of fickle boobs who can't think logically and are lead around by the latest sound bite

I sometimes wonder whether Americans are worthy of the sacrifice of lives our miltary occurs
15 posted on 04/10/2004 4:58:55 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Dane
Notice that no matter what the event/issue, while CNN and MSNBC can increase their viewership for a day or so, they remain below FNC by margins similar to their usual rankings and FOX picks up more temporary viewers than either of the others.

Maybe more and more people are beginning to realize that FNC has the most evenhanded coverage.
16 posted on 04/10/2004 5:00:18 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: boxerblues
The interviewers were also all incredibly rude, particularly Richard "mafia lawyer" ben veniste
17 posted on 04/10/2004 5:03:54 AM PDT by adam_az (Call your state Republican party office and VOLUNTEER FOR A CAMPAIGN!!!)
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To: kattracks

CONDI BOOM


18 posted on 04/10/2004 5:25:26 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (John CAIR-y is a total fraud)
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To: ride the whirlwind
I guess one thing I found so offensive was the fact they wanted to plant doubt and outright lies in the minds of the American people by taking particular items out of context. Getting at the truth was the last thing on their mind. Since I can't say anything nice about the group of '9/11 widows' that are dem activists using their victimhood for political gain with the full support of media hacks like Chris Matthews, I will just point out their clapping for dems should be stopped by the chairman as they are helping turn this into a circus.

Condi has never acted in a way to be treated with such disdain and disrespect. She is a jewel and we are all fortunate to have her in the Bush administration. Clarke was telling a different story from his private testimony which obviously angered some pub members. They may have expressed their concern at his change in testimony, but they didn't yell and do everything to keep him from giving his answer.
19 posted on 04/10/2004 5:29:48 AM PDT by Reb Raider
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To: dawn53
"...if WHEN America perceives the hearings as a witch-hunt." More to the truth!
20 posted on 04/10/2004 5:57:41 AM PDT by harpu
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To: kattracks
That explains why the leftist media and the Dems are so desperate about the Aug 6 PDB. They are clutching at straws trying to blame Bush and using revisionist history to restore the pitiful Clinton legacy.
21 posted on 04/10/2004 6:04:39 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kattracks
That session with Condi was a joke. Nothing more than grandstanding for the cameras; for the folks back home. The applause was disgusting.
22 posted on 04/10/2004 6:07:39 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: boxerblues
Whenever I have heard Condi Rice speak, her voice has always sounded a little shaky and "weak," which is more of a physical trait. I did not find her to be nervous, actually I thought she was more than ready to be there.
23 posted on 04/10/2004 6:13:56 AM PDT by Toespi (,)
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To: adam_az
She put them in their place very quickly. You wanted answers, they got em.
24 posted on 04/10/2004 6:20:16 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: lepton
bookmark bump
25 posted on 04/10/2004 6:25:30 AM PDT by lepton
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To: auggy
Condi's voice has a natural waver. That's just her voice. I got the same impression (that she sounded nervous) the first time I heard her speak.
26 posted on 04/10/2004 6:36:38 AM PDT by alnick
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To: Toespi
I agree. The longer she talks the waver seems to smooth out. My first impression of Condi was that she was nervous but she is obviously in control and so intellectually superior to those RAT hacks whose agenda was glaringly apparent. I was not in favor of her testifying in public because I felt it would not resolve anything and the RATS would say they needed just one more thing to convince them. And then another, and another. Such has proved to be the case since they now want a memo that will settle nothing but give them more media time to propagrandize. Oh well, Condi Rice can handle that too.
27 posted on 04/10/2004 7:01:18 AM PDT by mountainfolk
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To: mountainfolk; alnick
It's just a vocal cord thing. My great-aunt had the same waver in her voice all her life.

. . . but if you thought you could roll her because she sounded like a sweet little dithering old lady, you were quickly disabused of that notion.

I think strong-minded folks with this sort of voice have learned to use it to their advantage. Bent-veniste thought he had her, and then BAM!

28 posted on 04/10/2004 7:07:16 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: boxerblues
My mother, who is in her 80s and doesn't know a "PDB" from "R&B" keeps saying, that "whatever her name is sure is smart."
29 posted on 04/10/2004 7:27:25 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: uncbob
These are the same "ficle boobs" whom Jefferson and Jackson and Lincoln placed their trust in and whom Madison and Washington and Hamilton feared.
30 posted on 04/10/2004 7:30:16 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: mountainfolk
Yesterday, on Rush, he played a sound byte from one of the 9/11 widows attending the committee hearings, I think it was one that was interviewed by Katie Couric yesterday. She says "think of all the other PDBs that THIS President may have recieved, what do they all say?" SO, you are correct, they get the August 6th briefing and now they want them all. It will be never-ending because they are looking for something that is not there.
31 posted on 04/10/2004 7:35:32 AM PDT by Toespi (,)
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To: Toespi
"think of all"

That's a stock phrase from the political consultants's playbook.

32 posted on 04/10/2004 7:40:19 AM PDT by bvw
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To: kattracks
Has the NOW issued a statement about this ganging up on a women. Just wait it's coming yeah right
33 posted on 04/10/2004 7:41:12 AM PDT by Unicorn (Two many wimps around)
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To: Toespi; All
Yesterday, on Rush, he played a sound byte from one of the 9/11 widows attending the committee hearings, I think it was one that was interviewed by Katie Couric yesterday. She says "think of all the other PDBs that THIS President may have recieved, what do they all say?" SO, you are correct, they get the August 6th briefing and now they want them all. It will be never-ending because they are looking for something that is not there.

Surely someone here must know... are these women the same group that refused to accept payment from the 9/11 victims compensation fund, opting instead to sue the government (to "find out what really happened" or for even more money than the proposed settlement, or both)?

If so, I'm sure they have the purest of motives. ( /sarcasm )

34 posted on 04/10/2004 7:51:00 AM PDT by Cloud William
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To: maryz
Too bad they didn't also ask whether Clinton had done all he could.

Come on, maryz. The American people don't want to wallow in the past. They want to get back to the business of America - education, health care for uninsured single moms and minorities, and making the richest 1% pay their fair share.

35 posted on 04/10/2004 7:51:35 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: kattracks
I did watch a bit of MSNBC after the hearing--and as a result joined the ongoing boycott some freepers have formed.

But during Dr. Rice's appearance I was on Fox.
36 posted on 04/10/2004 8:02:55 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: texasflower
I understand we were underdogs during our nation's founding.
37 posted on 04/10/2004 8:23:42 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: kattracks
"Rices appearance drew a higher than usual audience to cable new channels for that time of the day"

Of course, the major channels carried it too. But who would have thought that her testimony would be tuned on in the back of the hair salon(at 11:30) with the stylists running back to catch it every chance they got? Go, Condi, go! They all were applauding her "smokin" the dimwits.
38 posted on 04/10/2004 8:30:53 AM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: dawn53
Americans also don't like seeing a polite woman bullied.
39 posted on 04/10/2004 8:36:14 AM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: auggy
Her voice always sounds like that - fortunately her brain and heart work just fine.
40 posted on 04/10/2004 8:37:05 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or ... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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To: Ladysmith
The Dems were exposed for the Rats they are. . .

Rats? Did you say Rats?


41 posted on 04/10/2004 8:37:58 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Artist Formerly Known as mikeb704.)
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To: uncbob
I sometimes wonder whether Americans are worthy of the sacrifice of lives our miltary occurs

Not worthy often, sadly.

42 posted on 04/10/2004 8:38:53 AM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: LS
These are the same "ficle boobs" whom Jefferson and Jackson and Lincoln placed their trust in and whom Madison and Washington and Hamilton feared.

I like that post. I would have never thought as an idealistic young man that one day it would be so crystal clear to me which of the two groups you mentioned would be more appealing to me and which group would appear more flawed. George Washington is the greatest American who ever lived!

43 posted on 04/10/2004 8:43:05 AM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: uncbob
"I sometimes wonder whether Americans are worthy of the sacrifice of lives our miltary occurs"

Way too many of us aren't. We're just lucky. If only we could separate from the lib losers - but they just follow and try to recreate the same hell they've left - witness Kalifornians taking over in Idaho, AZ etc. They really don't see the problems their socialist leanings cause until it's out of control. And then they don't think they brought it on themselves.

And for those who think this is too hard on Kalifornians, just recall the polls last year that showed them wanting lower taxes without cutting spending. And people think we aren't dealing with children.
44 posted on 04/10/2004 8:45:43 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or ... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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To: cyncooper
Yes. Rice was outstanding -- which is why the major networks have essentially dropped the story -- except the August memo.

As to Hardball, I watched the repeat later that night and I have never seen a more biased, noxious political show on television. The 9-11 wives are nothing but Democratic hags, viciously asserting that Dr. Rice was derelict or worse in her duties. The other 9-11 families should be raising Hell.

Here we have one of the highest ranking women in our nation's history, who is also a person of color, and these vicious women single her out -- their own gender -- for their malicious slander.
45 posted on 04/10/2004 9:00:47 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: auggy
I noticed the same thing. Her voice did sound shaky on the radio.

The only time I recall her stumbling was after 'gentle ben' asked her the name of the Aug 6 PDB and she started into an explanation. Ben stopped her and told her all he wanted was the name of the PDB.
She sounded perplexed and said he had asked her for its contents also.
The media only plays that portion, but if you go back and listen or read the transcript, he asked her the contents before he asked her the name.

I thought she hit it out of the ballpark.
BTW.. I listened also and was stunned to see that she did not use notes after her opening statement.
What a memory!!

One more thing..
Why is it that when I see Ben Viniste I think of a horse head??

46 posted on 04/10/2004 9:03:29 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: kattracks
Dr. Rice is on C-Span right now!
47 posted on 04/10/2004 9:09:00 AM PDT by TheLion
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To: boxerblues
On the radio her voice at first sounded nervous...

I agree. She did seem to have some pent-up emotion that spilled over a little bit in her voice when she first started speaking. But she settled down pretty quickly.

48 posted on 04/10/2004 9:09:05 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Kerry says Al-Sadr aligning with Hamas & Hezbollah is SORT OF a terrorist alignment.)
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To: Dane
Fox has 4 times the amount of viewers than MSNBC, the home of sodium pentathol Chrissy Matthews.

After Chrissy's comments .. MSNBC is losing a few more viewers

49 posted on 04/10/2004 9:17:23 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: maryz
Too bad they didn't also ask whether Clinton had done all he could.

They could even tell us that Clinton was even having a meeting the 9/11 Commission on the same day as Condi

50 posted on 04/10/2004 9:21:17 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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