Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 11 Apr 2004

Various big media television networks ^ | 11 Apr 2004 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, April 11th, 2004

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): L. Paul Bremer, the top U.S. civilian administrator in Iraq; Richard Ben-Veniste, Sept. 11 commission member; former Sen. Slade Gorton, R-Wash. Sept. 11 commission member; Sen. Dick Lugar, R-Ind.; Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, Roman Catholic archbishop of Washington, D.C.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): L. Paul Bremer, the top U.S. civilian administrator in Iraq; Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. Joe Biden, D-Del., and Pat Roberts, R-Kan.

THIS WEEK (ABC): L. Paul Bremer, the top U.S. civilian administrator in Iraq; Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine; Richard Perle, former assistant defense secretary.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Richard Ben-Veniste, Sept. 11 commission member; Sens. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and Bill Nelson, D-Fla.; former White House counsels John Dean and C. Boyden Gray; Rend Al-Rahim, Iraqi representative to the United States; retired Gen. George Joulwan, former NATO supreme commander; Carie Lemack and Bradley Blakeman, family members of Sept. 11 victims.

[Alas Babylon!]

HE IS RISEN! Glorious Easter to everyone!

As always, soliciting FReeper comments, observations, and opinions.

[JimSEA]

Good Easter Morning.

[Just mythoughts]

Richard Ben-Veniste running for Attorney General under JFKerry administration!

[mystery-ak]

Happy Easter

I see the commission members are out today....spewing their opinions before this inquiry is even finished!...

[Just mythoughts]

"I see the commission members are out today....spewing their opinions before this inquiry is even finished!..."


It is what McCain/Feingold Campaign Finance reform has brought us. "The Commission" the investigative arm of liberals in an attempt to destroy President Bush's strength, his credibility.

[TomGuy]

Richard Ben-Veniste is on CNN. It will be interesting to see whether the program was pre-taped before the release of the PDB.

Maybe it was and BV will stick his foot in his mouth over the PDB.

[Miss Marple]

Last night I was reading the long thread about this after I got home and Pukin Dog said that they are taped Saturday afternoon.

This should be quite interesting. Heheheh.

[Momaw Nadon]

Ben-Veniste?

[jackbill]

Richard Ben-Veniste is on CNN. It will be interesting to see whether the program was pre-taped before the release of the PDB.

Maybe it was and BV will stick his foot in his mouth over the PDB.

There is no way that Wolf Blitz and CNN would let Ben-Veniste be sandbagged like that. None.

[Miss Marple]

No, but Chris Wallace has him on Fox this morning and that was definitely pre-taped. Heheheh.

[McGruff]

I see Fox News Channel a banner:

"Awaiting Coalition News Conference in Baghdad".

2 min. warning.

[Miss Marple]

Coalition press conference starting soon.

[SkyPilot]

I see Richard Ben-Veniste (aka "Bent Penista") is all over the talk shows to spin, spin, Spin, SPIN!

This guys has had fingerprints all over the Clinton coverups--from the search of Vince Foster's office to Hillary's illegal health care con meetings.

I cannot believe he sits in judgement on others whose character he could not emulate in 1,000 years.

[auboy]

HE IS RISEN! Glorious Easter to everyone!

Amen!

[lavrenti]

I wonder why Fox has not taken the responsiblity to review the tape given the latest information and at least contact BV for his reaction to the latest developments.

Heheheheh.

[Alas Babylon!]

No, not true. As the long time keeper of this thread, I remember this question being asked and investigated (numerous times). Very often important guests get interviewed after leaving the studios--occasionally making newsworthy statements--all on Sunday morning. Fox News Sunday, Meet the Press and Face the Nation are all done Sunday morning. I can't speak for This Week, but when David Brinkley was running it, it also was done Sunday morning. CNN? I don't know. Pukin Dog may be right on that one.

[mathluv]

Dittos. Thanks for doing this every Sunday.

[Miss Marple]

Maybe because this is Easter weekend the interviews were done early.

[SkyPilot]

The media lap dogs and the Dirtycrats will continue operate in their Bizzaro Alternate Universe and try to brainwash the American people into believing that "Bush Knew!" was the gospel truth.

_______________________________________________________________________

Democratic and Republican members of the 9-11 commission saw the document differently.

Democratic commissioner Bob Kerrey, a former senator from Nebraska, said the memo's details should have given Bush enough warning to push for more intelligence information about possible domestic hijackings.

"The whole argument the government used that we were focusing overseas, that we thought the attack was coming from outside the United States — this memo said an attack could come in the United States. And we didn't scramble our agencies to that," he said.

Richard Ben-Veniste, a Democratic commissioner and former Watergate prosecutor, said the memo calls into question national security adviser Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites)'s assertion Thursday that the memo was purely a "historical" document.

"This is a provocative piece of information and warrants further exploration as to what was done following the receipt of this information to enhance our domestic security," he said.

[olde north church]

Great Eastern Morning, all!
Until recently, I was what you could call a "lapsed catholic, Roman Division".
Regardless of having between little to no respect for the current socialist puppet imposter (recommended reading: In God's Name) sitting on the throne of Rome and hoping the next is more concerned with matters of religion rather than fluff.
However, muslims are bringing me back to flock.

[TomGuy]

The Dems are trying to have it both ways:

1. They are critizing the GWB administration FOR NOT being preemptive with al-Qaeda (Afghanistan) before 9-11.

2. They are also critizing the GWB administration FOR being preemptive with Saddam Hussein (Iraq).

They are trying to have it both ways. Too bad none of the folk 'across the aisle' are taking them to task. Where is the Republican leadership in the House, Senate? Why aren't they all over the media, like the Dems are, countering these attacks?

[auboy]

Richard Ben-Veniste (aka "Bent Penista, Ben-Venasty")

Plus, Gorelick worked in the Clinton Administration under Janet Reno, IIRC. What are Clinton lackeys (add Kerrey and Roemer to this group) doing on a so called "truth-seeking" commission?

Answer: to project blame on Bush and deflect blame from Clinton. Good is evil and evil is good.

[EllaMinnow]

Happy Easter!

I'm heading up to Georgia for an Easter lunch with my son, so I'll miss all the talking heads today.

Here's hoping ben Veniste ends up with rotten egg all over his face.

[TomGuy]

Another, The McLaughlin Group (PBS), used to be taped on Friday afternoon/evening. Occasionally, they got caught with later breaking news.

It doesn't have direct interviews of guests, though. It is more of a Jerry Springer format. lol.

[Carolinamom]

Apparently, Bremer's presence on This Week,Meet the Press, and FOX was a late addition. Yahoo does not include him in its line-up. However, Face the Nation (CBS) and Late Edition CNN) did NOT include him.

[Alas Babylon!]

Yeah, that show was funny for awhile. SNL's Dana Carvey did a great McLaughlin, "Mor-TON, WRONG!!!", but McLauglin has been a Bush Basher these last few years. And Eleanor Rodham Clift is simply unbearable.

[TomGuy]

Benvenista screwed up in his questioning.

He asked first about attacks, then asked for the title. He only wanted the title, but he screwed up.

Dr. Rice, quick thinking, realized that. So when Benvenista fumbled for 'just the title', Dr. Rice wouldn't give in, but continued her remarked to include the summary of the PDB.

Benvenista's little trick didn't work. Next step was for the leftists on the Committee to try another bluff--get the WH to release the full document. They thought the WH would refuse, thus giving them an issue to whine about.

Yesterday, just in time for the evening news, the WH released the document, which was mostly as Dr. Rice said--historical data.

The whole thing blew up in Benvenista's face---all he wanted 'revealed' was the doc tite that 'bin Laden had threated to attack within the US.'

[jackbill]

Ben-Veniste is quoting Walter Pinkus for crying out loud. What a scumbag.

[Abbeville Conservative]

Meet the Depressed is totally focussed on Iraq this morning. Anyone suspect that had the memo released yesterday been what Gore-Lick and Ben Sandanista claimed was in it, then that would have been the focus of MTD?

[ReleaseTheHounds]

Of course, Washington Post news "journalists" have much better insights into these things than members of the commission. What an idiot Ben-Viniste is... Oh yeah: he's a Democrat.

[Just mythoughts]

"Benvenista screwed up in his questioning.

He asked first about attacks, then asked for the title. He only wanted the title, but he screwed up."


Don't you know he got a tongue lashing from old Hillry for this exposition of being slow witted.

[Alissa]

Please link me to the "latest developments!" I haven't been on FR very much the last 2 days.

[ReleaseTheHounds]

Now they're going to go after Ashcroft for what didn't happen with the FBI (without a Director at the time) in his first 200 days in office. Let's not look back at 8 years of Janet "The Torch" Reno's tenure.

[olde north church]

It finally hit me. There was something about Bremer, Senor, Kimmit AND THIS IS NO REFLECTION ON THEIR ABILITIES that was missing when I watched these men.
They lack charisma. In an area of the world where charisma means all, we portray the Coalition with these dull men. It's like watching a bad PowerPoint presentation on a Friday afternoon when all you can think about is your vacation.
Find a Washington, Sherman, Jackson, Pershing, Patton, MacArthur and put him up to speak for crying out loud. We are watching the "middle-managementization of America", passionate oratory and projection of virility wins more hearts and minds than hershey bars and nylons.
Think about it next time you're watching.

[CasearianDaoist]

That show is like a faculty meeting at a very small English or polisci dept. in some tiny and obscure liberal arts college. It is sort of funny if one can look at it this way. I am not sure what damage they really do as the true believers cannot be swayed in any event and a great many other people watch it for the shear amusment it provides.

[SkyPilot]

And Eleanor Rodham Clift is simply unbearable.

A friend sent me a wav file of Eleanor taped from the McLaughlin show. It is looped--but it is her actual voice. In it, she whines:

"Bob! Bob! Baahb! BAAAHB! Listen---Bush is stooopid, and Hillary knows it! Baaaaahb! BAAAHHB!

[Carolinamom]

Ben Veniste et al keep saying that the FBI and CIA "didn't talk to each other." Isn't it true that each was forbidden to do so because of a Congressional act/ruling? Set me straight on this if you know.

[ReleaseTheHounds]

Now Ben-Viniste is sucking up to Slade Gordon (RINO) to take slide away from his own slimey tactics.

[Miss Marple]

Walter Pinkus...the great buddy of Ambassador Joseph Wilson? He is saying what about Pinkus?

[jackbill]

Chris Wallace is really nailing B-V about his "grilling" of Dr. Rice.

[secret garden]

The Lord is risen indeed. Alleluia!
Thank you for hosting this thread each week.

[dawn53]

Since they could "get" Condi, I've noticed that they're turning their attention to Ashcroft.

It's pitiful, and sooooo transparent.

Don't you think that if these "witch hunts" keep up until September or October, the American people are their eyes will just glaze over from the constant repetition and they're going to be turned off by all the negativity.

Speaking of eyes glazing over, anybody ever watch the folks that Kerry's speaking to. Nobody cracks a smile or a grin, they all look "dead." Compare this to pictures of Bush speaking, where folks are smiling and it's a stark contrast.

[estrogen]

Wallace tries to pin BV into why he wouldn't let Rice finish her answer and gets an answer that made no sense whatsoever.

Now the love fest between the Dem and Repub. Where are our spokesman to show this for what is was? Partisan politics.

[ReleaseTheHounds]

Does anyone know the email to the Commission?

[Miss Marple]

Yes. There were very strict limitations enacted by LAW to keep them from sharing much information, a result of the Church commission back in the 70's.

[Carolinamom]

I do not share your opinion about Bremer. I find him very credible, and considering what he has to say, there is no need for him to be dramatic.

[SkyPilot]

The whole thing blew up in Benvenista's face---all he wanted 'revealed' was the doc tite that 'bin Laden had threated to attack within the US.'

Yes--to any logical person, it did. What depresses me is that on the wires (AP, Reuters, UPI) they are reporting this as if Bush got caught lying about having oral sex with an intern and committing perjury. Trying to reason with these people would be akin to trying to explain to Henrich Himmler that murdering the Jews was wrong.

[SkyPilot]

Chris Wallace is really nailing B-V about his "grilling" of Dr. Rice.

Glad to hear that! Thanks.

[ReleaseTheHounds]

Ben-Veniste started his answer to Chris Wallace saying "Walter Pinkus has the best perspective -- as the best journalist in Washington on this things..." and then goes on to quote Pinkus that "the CIA agent's motive in writing this Briefing was to warn that more needs done to pursue the terrorist activities" being reported.

Wallace properly tried to interrupt to say "I'm not interested in what some reporter is saying but rather what you as a Commissioner sees" but Ben-Ven-@hole wouldn't be denied his opportunity to read the Washington Post.

[Carolinamom]

Thanks. Midst all the bloviating and blaming of these 2 entities, the commissioners have failed to recognise and state this fact.