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SF Supervisors Lead Rally Against Gun Shows At Cow Palace
NBC 11/KNTV ^ | 7:12 pm PDT April 12, 2004 | KNTV

Posted on 04/12/2004 11:30:23 PM PDT by risk

NBC11.com

SF Supervisors Lead Rally Against Gun Shows At Cow Palace

Cow Palace Is Located Close To Districts With Most Homicides

POSTED: 7:11 PM PDT April 12, 2004
UPDATED: 7:12 PM PDT April 12, 2004

Two supervisors representing the San Francisco districts with the most homicides rallied in support of a state bill that would prohibit gun shows in a local concourse.

The supervisors, who don't hold any power over the state-owned Cow Palace, urged the Public Safety Committee of the California State Senate to vote favorably Tuesday upon a bill that would ban the sale of firearms and ammunition at the Cow Palace.

State Sen. Jackie Speier, D-Hillsborough, is the sponsor of the legislation.

"The state-owned Cow Palace sits directly across the street from the neighborhoods that are most ravaged by violence and loss of life due to guns. It is an insult to the families of these victims for the state of California to allow the sale of guns to continue at this venue," Sandoval said during Monday's rally.

The Cow Palace, located south of San Francisco, has a gun show scheduled for May 1 and 2.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; gunshow; sandoval
A footnote on this proposed gun show ban aired just after news over the weekend of the Easter shooting of a SF police officer. Somehow the traditional Cow Palace gunshow venue was automatically related to the tragic death of a police officer.

See also Halt to Cow Palace gun shows urged, by Katia Hetter, Chronicle Staff Writer

San Francisco Supervisor Gerardo Sandoval, his district plagued by gun-related homicides of young African American men, wants the Cow Palace to stop hosting gun shows just across the street from his district.

"Government should not be selling guns, a stone's throw away from where dozens of children are being shot and some murdered," Sandoval said. "If we're not going to solve the problem, the least we can do is stop contributing to it. "
Also:
Chuck Michel, spokesman for the California Rifle and Pistol Association, said that gun shows weren't responsible for violence and that the city's push to regulate them was motivated by political opposition to the right of citizens to possess firearms.

"It's a cultural war by the city of San Francisco, [which] wants to ban the civilian possession of firearms," Michel said. "They don't want people who believe in the right of self-defense to be getting together."


Select this image of Sandoval to Search GOOGLE NEWS for references to him.

1 posted on 04/12/2004 11:30:24 PM PDT by risk
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To: risk
If only gay men owned guns. Then this would be moot! he he he
2 posted on 04/12/2004 11:32:25 PM PDT by Fledermaus ( Frm ^;;^ says, "John Kerry could bore a rock to erosion!")
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To: Joe Brower; farmfriend; FairOpinion; 68 grunt; Travis McGee; archy
ping: yet another threat to second amendment commerce in Kali
3 posted on 04/12/2004 11:33:07 PM PDT by risk
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To: *bang_list; river rat; Joe Brower; Eaker; Squantos; coloradan; Mulder; Beelzebubba; risk

BANG!

Haven't these gun show bans generally been slapped down in most states? They are selling a legal product, legally, the same as any other kind of product show.

4 posted on 04/12/2004 11:34:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Fledermaus
Don't laugh: http://www.pinkpistols.com/
5 posted on 04/12/2004 11:34:35 PM PDT by risk
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To: risk
Excellent!
6 posted on 04/12/2004 11:35:20 PM PDT by Fledermaus ( Frm ^;;^ says, "John Kerry could bore a rock to erosion!")
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To: Travis McGee
These anti-American city officials think that if only they could just make all guns illegal, violence in our city would stop. But in lieu of that, they'll harass the gun merchants and individual buyers and sellers.

Cow Palace gun shows are a time-honored tradition here in California, but these politburo types want none of it. Of course they trotted out a dutiful police official to say that semi-automatic (their word was "assult") weapons are the cause of all police officer killings.

And the TV anchors prattle on as though anyone who would want to attend or supply a gun show must be uncivilized.
7 posted on 04/12/2004 11:41:47 PM PDT by risk
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To: risk
They can't ban them in a state facility.....of course, they could buy Cow Palace from the state, which I am all for.

they can have Queer Eye auditions there then.
8 posted on 04/12/2004 11:43:52 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: risk
that suspect was just parolled from the CYA, and did have an illegal weapon....an AK47..banned in CA since 1987.
9 posted on 04/12/2004 11:47:29 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl; Travis McGee; Joe Brower
They can't ban them in a state facility...

That's the issue in point with one of Sandoval's comments:

Government should not be selling guns, a stone's throw away from where dozens of children are being shot and some murdered.
It's a sort of twist on the first amendment, a fictitious value for the separation of American culture and the state. Very weird. We can expect to hear it more often, I'd guess.
10 posted on 04/12/2004 11:48:17 PM PDT by risk
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To: risk
The gun shows have been at the Cow palace for as long as I remember and the South San Francisco area has always been dangerous. This just the latest in a long line of leftist attempts to impede the exercise of 2nd amendment rights in this state. The politics of this state have completely gone to hell.
11 posted on 04/12/2004 11:48:34 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: risk
These anti-American city officials think that if only they could just make all guns illegal, violence in our city would stop.

No they don't. Reducing violence is just the LIE they broadcast to the soccer mommies and emasculated men in order to sell their real agenda of a total ban on all firearms. The Leftists know that eliminating legal ownership of firearms will result in an escalation of violence as demonstrated throughout history. That's what they want. Because when the sheeple fear for their lives, they will gladly trade their freedom for the promise of big government protection. This eventually leads to tyranny, which it the ultimate goal of the Left.

12 posted on 04/12/2004 11:59:40 PM PDT by SpyGuy
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To: SpyGuy
That pretty much sums it up. Well said.
13 posted on 04/13/2004 12:03:53 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: rdb3; mhking; Trueblackman; Warrior Nurse
Another frustrating thing about this organization Brothers against Guns is that it seeks to disarm urban people, presumably mostly latino and black.

The answer isn't disarmament, it's setting a positive example. I think the more people know about gun safety the less likely they are to do reckless things with guns, like handling them while drinking.

Of course our liberal politicians would never think to invite the NRA into a community like South SF and offer marksmanship and gun safety courses. Peaceful and responsible citizens of all races have a right to be armed.

14 posted on 04/13/2004 12:06:19 AM PDT by risk
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To: risk
dozens shot, eh?

when the LA County Supervisors broke the lease with the LA Gun Show, they had to pay a big settlement. $1.4 million.

http://www.metnews.com/articles/guns021403.htm
15 posted on 04/13/2004 12:22:40 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: risk
Oh, yeah, right. And when the "Children" keep right on murdering each other after the gunshows are banned at the Cow Palace, well, then, we'll just have to start whining about gunshows in Reno - Yeah, that's it. The "Children" are buying their guns in Reno. We need F_E_D_E_R_A_L legislation... whine, bleat, moan...

Note to Commufornia: Get off the planet. Go back to hell.

16 posted on 04/13/2004 12:27:09 AM PDT by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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To: Travis McGee; in the Arena; Eagle Eye; Eaker; Jeff Head
Gun Show ?...... we don need no stinkin gun show.........meeeester !

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/usmc_eod_in_iraq/aaa

Stay safe !
17 posted on 04/13/2004 12:27:29 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Squantos
Gotta tell ya that my tolerance for BS seems to be dropping by the hour...so by the time I get back to the States I ought to really be in the mood to meet these fuddbuckers...
18 posted on 04/13/2004 12:40:49 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Coming to you live from HESCO city...)
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To: Eagle Eye
I'll hold yer coat and then you can hold mine ! Ass whuppin time !

Just keep yer noggin in that brain bucket when ya hear the whump's

Stay safe EE I gotta hit the rack. Oh Early Thiry Wake up for me !

19 posted on 04/13/2004 12:59:22 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Squantos; Eagle Eye; Arch; Travis McGee
"All call signs, do not panic, that is all out-going."

From EE's profile.

20 posted on 04/13/2004 4:28:53 AM PDT by risk
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To: Travis McGee
Haven't these gun show bans generally been slapped down in most states? They are selling a legal product, legally, the same as any other kind of product show.

Since when that did stop the seditious turds from attempting to overthrow the Bill of Rights?

21 posted on 04/13/2004 5:30:29 AM PDT by Mulder (Fight the future)
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To: Eagle Eye
Stay safe bro.
22 posted on 04/13/2004 5:39:56 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Travis McGee
True....
But it seems to me, that having a Gun Show in San Francisco, is a little like trying to sell Witchcraft items in the Vatican...

Many Central/Northern Kalifornians - REFUSE to do business of any kind in San Francisco...
There are plenty of communities, with facilities nearby that would welcome a gun show.

We venture into San Francisco ONLY when requested by out of state visitors, to sightsee - and spend the MINIMUM cash in the city...

Semper Fi
23 posted on 04/13/2004 7:14:51 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Jeff Head
Anything more than 200 meters out isn't considered close.

Less than 100 meters will scare the crap outta you.

Bwahahaahaaaa!
24 posted on 04/13/2004 7:25:55 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Coming to you live from HESCO city...)
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To: Eagle Eye; Travis McGee; Squantos; Joe Brower; Eaker; river rat
I had one of my sons, two of his friends and one of my son-in-laws out on Saturday and we were plinking away at 300-400 meters in the hills here of Idaho with my FAL and an assortment of other long guns.

Those kids are getting to be dang good shots, hitting 2 1/2 gallon plastic pales regularly with open sites at 300+ meters.

A good time by all...and good training.

25 posted on 04/13/2004 8:02:19 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
Is that over iron sights?
26 posted on 04/13/2004 9:12:37 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Peep site.
27 posted on 04/13/2004 3:30:09 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Travis McGee
Here's the shows in Nevada for 2004

The Reno Show is one of the biggest and bestest because there is litteraly everything you could wish for there. 1-1/2 ACRES OF EXHIBITS! It takes three days for me to wheel around gawking at the weaponry for sale. On Sunday is when the prices step down a bit.

JUST THE VERY BEST!
$$MILLION$$ GUNS - KNIVES - ANTIQUES
COLLECTIBLES - BOOKS
COWBOY/WESTERN MEMORABILIA
ANTIQUE INDIAN ARTIFACTS - ACCESSORIES
WEEKEND PASS ­ $12 for all three days

The BIG Reno Show
April 23, 24, 25, 2004
RENO, NEVADA
Friday thru Sunday
Friday & Saturday: 9:00 am to 6:00 pm
Sunday: 9:00 am to 3:00 pm
Phone: 775/828-2350 Fax: 775/828-2351


May 8-9, 2004

Carson City Gun Show

(Top Gun Show Promotions)

Carson City Community Center

851 William St.

Carson City, Nv. 89701

Sat. 9-5, Sun. 9-4



May 22-23, 2004

Gardnerville Fairgrounds

(Day Productions)

Gardnerville, Nv.

Sat. & Sun. 9-5



June 26-27, 2004

Fallon Community Center

(Day Productions)

Fallon, Nv.

Sat. & Sun. 9-5



July 10-11, 2004

Reno Livestock Events Center

(Day Productions)

Wells Ave.

Reno, Nv.

Sat. & Sun. 9-5



August 13-15, 2004 (note date chg.)

The Big Reno Show

(Lou Fascio, Inc.)

Reno Hilton Hotel

Reno, Nv.

Fri. & Sat. 9-6, Sun. 9-4



August 21-22, 2004

Carson City Gun Show

(Top Gun Show Promotions)

Carson City Community Center

851 William St.

Carson City, Nv. 89701

Sat. 9-5, Sun. 9-4



September 11-12, 2004

Gardnerville Fairgrounds

(Day Productions)

Gardnerville, Nv.

Sat. & Sun. 9-5



September 18-19, 2004

Winnemucca Fairgrounds

(Day Productions)

Winnemucca, Nv.

Sat. & Sun. 9-5



October 16-17, 2004

Carson City Gun Show

(Top Gun Show Promotions)

Carson City Community Center

851 William St.

Carson City, Nv. 89701

Sat. 9-5, Sun. 9-4



December 11-12, 2004

Reno Livestock Events Center

(Day Productions)

Wells Ave.

Reno, Nv.

Sat. & Sun. 9-5



Promoter Information

Claude Hall's Show productions

OKC/Las Vegas Gun Shows, Inc.

P.O. Box 14119

Oklahoma City, Ok. 73113-0119

405-842-3277

405-842-3278 Fax

claudehall@okcgs.com

www.lasvegasgunshow.com



Crossroads of the West

P.O. Box 290

Kaysville, Utah 84037

801-544-9125

www.crossroadsgunshows.com



RK Promotions

Rex Kehrli

P.O. Box 334

Manchester, Ia. 52057

563-927-8176



Day Productions

Richard Day

530-527-2678



The Big Reno Show

Lou Fascio Inc.

P.O. Box 10485

Reno, Nv. 89510-0485

775-828-2350

775-828-2351 Fax

www.bigrenoshow.com



Top Gun Show Promotions

Chuck or Margaret Mahon

P.O. Box 154

Elmira, Ca. 95625-9998

707-446-8549



TS Gun Shows

Russ & Sallie Nordyke

P.O. Box 871

Willows, Ca. 95988

530-934-7230 or

530-934-4159



Wallace Beinfeld productions

P.O. Box 2221

Palm Springs, Ca. 92263

760-320-5389

760-320-5231 Fax

gunshowpro@aol.com

www.antiquearmsshow.com



Send any changes, additions and deletions to:

Donald L. Shiffer at

1805 N. Carson St. # 14

Carson City, Nv. 89701-1216

775-841-1928 or

bullmoose@775.net

or

Silver State Shootists

1805 N. Carson St. # 59

Carson City, Nv. 89701-1216

28 posted on 04/13/2004 10:32:03 PM PDT by B4Ranch (WE OFTEN GIVE OUR ENEMIES THE MEANS FOR OUR OWN DESTRUCTION.)
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To: Jeff Head
Good shootin!
29 posted on 04/13/2004 11:44:05 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Beelzebubba; B4Ranch
#28 Ping
30 posted on 04/13/2004 11:44:44 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: risk
The Cow Palace also holds raves. It also hosts the Exotic Erotic Halloween Ball, which features all kinds of S&M stuff and live sex, mostly heterosexual, BTW.

But no, only guns kill people, not ecstacy or STDs.

31 posted on 05/20/2004 9:51:08 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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