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Black Jesse Helms' battles for GOP votes
Wash Times ^ | 4/13/04 | Ralph Hallow

Posted on 04/13/2004 7:24:21 AM PDT by paltz

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:14:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A North Carolina newspaper meant to chastise Republican Vernon Robinson when it declared: "Jesse Helms is back! This time, he's black."

Now that quote has become Mr. Robinson's campaign slogan as he battles seven other 5th District congressional candidates in the July 20 Republican primary.


(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: aldrich; bobbarr; edbroyhill; electionushouse; jackkemp; jayhelvey; jessehelms; mikefarris; nathantabor; nc05; ncelections; ncpolitics; vernonrobinson

1 posted on 04/13/2004 7:24:22 AM PDT by paltz
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To: paltz
No more moderates, we have enough wishy washy panzies in the GOP.
2 posted on 04/13/2004 7:26:55 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: dubyaismypresident; xsmommy
"Jesse Helms is back! This time, he's black."

Coming Attractions for more Liberal Hysteria.....

3 posted on 04/13/2004 7:28:02 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: hobbes1
I met Mr. Robinson at CPAC this past year. He'd be a terrific Congressman.
4 posted on 04/13/2004 7:34:45 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Politcs: poli means many, and tics are blood sucking creatures)
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To: paltz
Sounds like y'all have a bounty of conservatives; the rest of the country should be so fortunate.
5 posted on 04/13/2004 7:44:04 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: paltz
Any NC FReepers care to enlighten us on his record? If he's got a good one, it would be nice to have the only black person in the Senate be a Republican.
6 posted on 04/13/2004 7:48:16 AM PDT by GulliverSwift (Keep the <a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/">gigolo</a> out of the White House!)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Woohoo.

We have a great black conservative running for Zell Millers' seat here in GA, Herman Cain.

http://www.cainforussenate.org

Of course, there are those who think we need to propel one of the 2 US Reps also running from House to Senate, even though they haven't done diddly for all their years in the State and National positions.

Weak-kneed RINO's suck.
7 posted on 04/13/2004 7:48:56 AM PDT by eyespysomething (To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first, and call whatever you hit the target)
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To: Bikers4Bush
No more moderates, we have enough wishy washy panzies in the GOP.

I agree with your general sentiment. But I note Pat Buchanan supports this guy. That would concern me if I were a constituent. Pat Buchanan is not a conservative. He left our ranks a long time ago.

8 posted on 04/13/2004 7:49:05 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: paltz
Good lord, is that a dream-come-true GOP primary or what?!

Considering the remnants of Jesse Helms'"machine" are still active and the Broyhill name, I'd wager Ed Broyhill is the next Congressman, though.
9 posted on 04/13/2004 7:50:52 AM PDT by NCPAC
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To: eyespysomething
Herman Cain definitely has my vote. I love his radio ad.
10 posted on 04/13/2004 7:54:00 AM PDT by Preachin'
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To: ModelBreaker
whoa!!! buchanan supports vernon??? proof?...if vernon doesnt publicly distance himself from buchanan he has lost my vote no matter what!
11 posted on 04/13/2004 7:55:20 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: GulliverSwift
NO!!! We in GA are going to have the only black senator, who will be a republican!!! (Herman Cain)

Think if there were 2 blacks in the senate, both republican, and both from the south!
12 posted on 04/13/2004 7:59:38 AM PDT by eyespysomething (To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first, and call whatever you hit the target)
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To: Preachin'
I'm assuming you are a fellow Peach Stater then! Please see our locale board, and the 3 or so people there who are not supporting Cain. They are worried he is too extreme, what with his anti-abortion, pro-FairTax, cut the budget/pork, pro-God views and all.
13 posted on 04/13/2004 8:01:39 AM PDT by eyespysomething (To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first, and call whatever you hit the target)
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To: Bikers4Bush
I thought jesse Helms was still alive.
14 posted on 04/13/2004 8:03:16 AM PDT by cyborg (GO CONDI GO!)
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To: rrrod
whoa!!! buchanan supports vernon??? proof?...if vernon doesnt publicly distance himself from buchanan he has lost my vote no matter what!

From the article

'The two-term Winston-Salem city councilman and Air Force Academy graduate's brochures cite praise from . . . conservative commentator Pat Buchanan.'

15 posted on 04/13/2004 8:07:47 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: cyborg
Hope Helms isn't following the Goldwater decline template.

Dan
16 posted on 04/13/2004 8:08:32 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: ModelBreaker
i saw that.. i meant a quote from buchanan or something. thanks!
17 posted on 04/13/2004 8:09:53 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: cyborg
He is. He retired, and his seat was won by Elizabeth Dole in the last election.
18 posted on 04/13/2004 8:10:04 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
thanks!
19 posted on 04/13/2004 8:11:37 AM PDT by cyborg (GO CONDI GO!)
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To: rrrod
As far as I can tell, Buchanan has not endorsed Robinson in this race, but has in the past. Of course, Buchanan was a conservative in the past.

Vernon highlights Kemp, Keyes, Tancredo, Barr, and Aldrich on his endorsements page.

20 posted on 04/13/2004 8:28:16 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Got some dirt on my shoulder -- could you brush it off for me?)
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To: Redbob
Sounds like y'all have a bounty of conservatives; the rest of the country should be so fortunate.

Or maybe there's only one conservative, and the rest are copying because that's the only way to get elected these days?

21 posted on 04/13/2004 5:23:44 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Yep. We're sitting in traffic so they can fund the Public Transportation Utopia...)
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To: TaxRelief
I peronally like vernon but ....and this is not an attack he has a tendency to botch things up. should he win the primary i hope he can take a deep breath and think his campaign thru. Vernon will stay true in his beliefs of that I am sure. RELAX VERNON!!! smile ol buddy!
22 posted on 04/13/2004 5:30:29 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: rrrod; CiTi Girl
Do I really look like this Mr. RRRod?

LOL! Thanks.

23 posted on 04/13/2004 5:41:25 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Yep. We're sitting in traffic so they can fund the Public Transportation Utopia...)
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To: paltz
Okay, I'm getting ready to finish up my tax return (okay, I'm really stalling), so it's time for my Ed Broyhill Rant.

Ed Broyhill is all about "jobs" -- that's what he's made the centerpiece of his campaign. However, he's already proven to be a lousy businessman -- having bankrupted the "Edgar B" mail-order furniture biz he had operating out of Clemmons from 1978-95. His website omits this little tidbit in his resume. But others have ranted thoroughly about that, so I'll refrain (www.BankruptBroyhill.com). But that cost up to 140 jobs that were never recovered.

But the thing that really gets to me are his ads: "Faith, Family, Friends, Freedom" is the theme. He shows his family singing in church (angled so that you don't notice that it's staged). He talks about the church his grandfather helped build. However, when asked for use of spare building space to use for a temporary home for a fledgling church in Clemmons, he offered it... at full retail rental price. This was an out-building -- four rooms, poor shape, lots of junk. We would have cleaned it up, carpeted, and painted, plus (likely) added numerous other upgrades. But the comment I still hear from that episode is "I'm a businessman."

Now Broyhill didn't have to do this. He owns (or maybe his father does, after the $16 million or more pumped into Edgar B) the space and has the ultimate right to do with it as he pleases. Yet he's now touting himself as a community leader, a man of faith, and a man of action. I didn't see any of those traits that day -- what I saw was the character of a used car salesman - trying to make a buck.

I am a pragmatist: I will almost always vote for Republicans, whether I like them or not. This man would be an exception to that rule, for if he should happen to win the GOP nod in the NC 5th district, I would not vote for him -- and would actually strongly consider a vote for the Democrat candidate in this extreme case.

End rant.

24 posted on 04/13/2004 7:12:48 PM PDT by alancarp (NASCAR: Where everything's made up and the points don't matter.)
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To: rrrod
My son Patrick has a butterfly plush toy named Vernon. This is just a strange coincidence, not intended to mean anything politically.

many of the 5th District's 3,500 families who home-school their children

That's a lot of homeschooling families in one congressional district ... maybe more than we had in Oklahoma 1st. Suggests that the public school stink.

25 posted on 04/13/2004 7:22:05 PM PDT by Tax-chick (See baby pictures on the Tax-chick page!)
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To: alancarp
The only beefs I'd seen about Broyhill were from customers who'd pay'd deposits that were not refunded. Is that part true?
26 posted on 04/13/2004 8:03:59 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Yep. We're sitting in traffic so they can fund the Public Transportation Utopia...)
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To: TaxRelief
I believe that to be true, for I've heard this from multiple sources - including print media. That's actually not terribly unusual for a company in receivership, for the "customers-in-waiting" simply get added to the end of a long line of creditors waiting for satisfaction... and while I don't know the NC law in this regard, it is typical that the biggest creditors (banks, etc.) get satisfied first.
27 posted on 04/13/2004 8:11:28 PM PDT by alancarp (NASCAR: Where everything's made up and the points don't matter.)
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To: rrrod
Rrrod is exactly right. Robinson is a staunch conservative. You know exactly where he stands, and he will not waver. I believe it's possible for such a conservative to attract 50 percent plus 1, but I wonder if he can do it.
28 posted on 04/13/2004 9:25:24 PM PDT by Windom Earle
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To: paltz
For the record, there are few, if any, stronger conservatives than Vernon in the country. There are others in the race who have learned to talk the talk, but Vernon's conservative track record is phenomenal. He has been a veritable Conservative "Army of One" in Winston-Salem.

(Actually, Vernon would probably prefer that we use the term "Air Force of One." As he likes to say, "The best offense is a good air strike!")
29 posted on 04/14/2004 3:07:08 AM PDT by Huber (If Catholics voted per the teachings of the Church, there would be no abortion in the US!)
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