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Research: Pig Manure Can Become Crude Oil
Yahoo ^ | 04/13/04 | JIM PAUL

Posted on 04/13/2004 10:24:01 AM PDT by m1-lightning

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To: m1-lightning
If they could perfect this, I'd be happier that a pig in...well, you know.
61 posted on 04/13/2004 11:10:05 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (Challenged.)
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To: Final Authority
Go to their website and see the data. Trust me, if they were not truly able to do this, they would not be running a plant right at this moment commercially.

This isn't 100% effecient or even 90%, but it's enough that this will be profitable one day and will solve a lot of storage and removal expense from these animal processing plants. People seem to get it in their heads that this is just about the energy the plants can produce. It's also about landfill issues, waste storage and transport issues, and quality of life issues for those with these animal processing plants in their communities.

Carthage, MO expects to have half of their city power generated from this plant within a few years, and the turkey plant will save a ton of money not having to store or ship the waste products.
62 posted on 04/13/2004 11:10:59 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: m1-lightning
Pig Manure? We have a mother load in DC!!
63 posted on 04/13/2004 11:19:42 AM PDT by caisson71
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To: LizardQueen
Reminds me of one of the Mad Max/Road Warrior movies where there was a scene of pig manure being stirred as the gas from it was used to heat the living quarters compound.

Mad Max beyond Thunderdome. A place caled "Bartertown" gets its engery from pig manure. The ongoing power struggle pits Aunty Entity (Tina Turner), who founded the town, and runs things above ground, against the "two headed entity" of "Master/Blaster", who provides the energy source from pig manure. I got a kick out of brains of Master/Blaster duo, a dwarf, when he calls for an embargo and cuts the power, and refers to himself as "Me big Arab". It's amazing how far being PC has come in the 19 years since that line was used. I doubt they could get by with it in today's world...

64 posted on 04/13/2004 11:22:00 AM PDT by LRS
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To: m1-lightning
Yes the Nantucket issue is very irritating for us windmillers. Those limousine liberals must be a whole different breed of human being. They have gone so far as to print false reports about the developer that said he is an underhanded businessman. They quotes some source which was later discovered to be a fabrication yet they can't find who invented the story. Meanwhile financers of the project pulled support and had to be reconvinced of the business case. Liberals will stoop to any level.
65 posted on 04/13/2004 11:22:16 AM PDT by biblewonk (The only book worth reading, and reading, and reading.)
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To: m1-lightning
Hmmm, if this were true, the Clintons would be oil barons.
66 posted on 04/13/2004 11:22:45 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: LizardQueen
...Reminds me of one of the Mad Max/Road Warrior movies...

MasterBlaster run Bartertown!

67 posted on 04/13/2004 11:23:35 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: m1-lightning

GROUND ZERO FOR PIG MANURE!
Democrats finally contribute to the nation's energy needs.
68 posted on 04/13/2004 11:26:26 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
"This plant will make 10 tons of gas per day, which will go back into the system to make heat to power the system," he says. "It will make 21,000 gallons of water, which will be clean enough to discharge into a municipal sewage system. Pathological vectors will be completely gone. It will make 11 tons of minerals and 600 barrels of oil, high-quality stuff, the same specs as a number two heating oil." He shakes his head almost as if he can't believe it. "It's amazing. The Environmental Protection Agency doesn't even consider us waste handlers. We are actually manufacturers—that's what our permit says. This process changes the whole industrial equation. Waste goes from a cost to a profit."

From an article, "Anything Into Oil" about the process; thermal depolymerization process, or TDP. Looks like it may be more efficient than other energy producing industries.

69 posted on 04/13/2004 11:26:53 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Interesting. Oil made from pig manure....Could we use this to heat homes and fuel cars in the Middle Eastern countries?
70 posted on 04/13/2004 11:27:20 AM PDT by hresources
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To: m1-lightning
I like the part about the asphalt. It will keep Muslims off the roads.
71 posted on 04/13/2004 11:27:30 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: dufekin
Now this WILL strong-arm OPEC...

I don't know about that. I'm sure we have a lot of pig s*** in this country, but I doubt it is enough to put a dent in the amount of oil we import --- unless of course we can get drilling rights to Teddy Kennedy's septic system. ;~))

72 posted on 04/13/2004 11:28:47 AM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Warren
Many places. Your point?
73 posted on 04/13/2004 11:29:02 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Hodar
"Believe, or disbelieve .... "

You are obviously oblivious to the obvious in your "belief system!" It's one thing to join the scofflaw liberals, but it's quite another to jump to dreamy conclusions with the scofflaws of the laws of nature!!!

74 posted on 04/13/2004 11:32:04 AM PDT by SierraWasp (John Fallujah Kerry! Now we REALLY know what HE meant, by "Bring... It... On!!!" He sure DID!!!)
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To: m1-lightning
A University of Illinois research team is working on turning pig manure into a form of crude oil that could be refined to heat homes or generate electricity.

All well and good, but who's going to follow Michael Moore around all day with a bucket and a pooper-scooper? Hmmm?
75 posted on 04/13/2004 11:33:56 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (So you're a feminist - isn't that cute!)
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To: Hodar
Oops! Didn't see your link to the Discover Magazine article. Our #2 son brought it home from college last summer. What a fascinating concept! Looks like it can't lose, unless the environmentalists are allowed to muck it up! Don't see how they could, but they'll try mightily, I'm sure!
76 posted on 04/13/2004 11:34:23 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Ditto
Methane production from manure has been used for a very long time. A typical use is to heat dairy barns in winter. It's quite effective and uses very simple technology.

Larger-scale plants exist that operate on sewage, and are part of the sewage treatment facility.

While hog manure is probably not in large enough supply to generate a huge amount of gas and oil, consider human sewage...essentially the same thing. If every sewer plant in the country were generating usable methane for fuel and oil from our human sewage, we'd be talking about a large operation with large output.

This is not bogus technology, and it's not liberal technology. It's just technology.
77 posted on 04/13/2004 11:34:58 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: SierraWasp
It doesn't break the laws of nature, and I'm not sure why people keep claiming that it claims to break the laws of nature. It's not getting more energy than it takes in. But neither does refining raw crude pumped from the ground.

This isn't hippy-flower-powered-good-vibrations-energy-creation, this is a very inventive use of physics to reduce carbon based waste into usable fuel in a few hours rather than let nature do it over thousands and millions of years in a landfill.
78 posted on 04/13/2004 11:36:49 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
We consume about 1.3 million tons of oil per day in the USA. Although I think that conversion of waste is a good idea does anyone have any idea how much organic waste will have to be converted to establish a distributive market for the product of such waste?
79 posted on 04/13/2004 11:36:58 AM PDT by Final Authority
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To: LizardQueen
"Reminds me of one of the Mad Max/Road Warrior movies where there was a scene of pig manure being stirred as the gas from it was used to heat the living quarters compound. "

Yeah. Didn't think of that till you mentioned it. It was Thunder Dome.
80 posted on 04/13/2004 11:37:38 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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