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Humans Took 1000 Years To Tame Wild Plants
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| 4-13-2004
| Anna Salleh
Posted on 04/13/2004 4:39:44 PM PDT by blam
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To: jolie560
I would like to know the first human who cracked open an egg and said, "Hey, that looks delicious."
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posted on
04/13/2004 7:08:35 PM PDT
by
Dog Gone
To: jolie560
I've never tried a baby artichoke raw, but so far this year have had three different restaurants serve wood roasted baby artichokes, and they are delicious, stem and all! I had one marinated and two without, and I liked the unmarinated ones better.
To: Dog Gone
If you see an animal, like a dog, eating eggs, that gives you a good idea you can eat them, too.
Besides, if you're hungry, my bet is that you'd eat anything that did not eat you first, and some that tried!
To: CobaltBlue
My dog will eat cat shit. It doesn't give me any ideas.
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posted on
04/13/2004 7:35:17 PM PDT
by
Dog Gone
To: Dog Gone
Ohhhhhkaaaaayyyyy, sorry I mentioned it!
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posted on
04/13/2004 7:36:15 PM PDT
by
CobaltBlue
(Never mind!)
To: CobaltBlue
LOL
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posted on
04/13/2004 7:37:00 PM PDT
by
Dog Gone
To: PatrickHenry
(Why yes, that IS a gun in my pocket.) Really? Well, nice to meet you.
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posted on
04/13/2004 7:37:13 PM PDT
by
Victoria Delsoul
(Kerry said he wasn't at the '71 plot-to-kill meeting, then, he was but voted NO, now he can't recall)
To: Victoria Delsoul
That's very funny.
(She gets it, she gets it!)
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posted on
04/13/2004 7:43:08 PM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Why yes, that IS a gun in my pocket.)
To: PatrickHenry
LOL!
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posted on
04/13/2004 7:48:33 PM PDT
by
Victoria Delsoul
(Kerry said he wasn't at the '71 plot-to-kill meeting, then, he was but voted NO, now he can't recall)
To: Dog Gone
I would like to know the first human who cracked open an egg and said, "Hey, that looks delicious."I'd guess it wasn't a human; chimps eat eggs. Chimp diet
To: Dog Gone
There's a theory that at end of the ice age there was a drought that caused agriculture to be started by sheer necessity. After that it's been proven there was a lot of rainfall in the area and a subtropical climate. (Think Maui, only a little drier)
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posted on
04/13/2004 8:09:53 PM PDT
by
lizma
To: CobaltBlue
Ancient people made bread out of acorns. Of couse, acorn flour must be leached with boiling water to remove they cyanide compounds first. Someone may have been unsuccessful in the past.
He was a bold man that first ate an oyster.--Jonathan Swift
Fugu fish?
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posted on
04/13/2004 8:28:21 PM PDT
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: lizma
I'm no climatologist, or even more than an armchair archaeologist, but that goes against everything I've ever learned. The papyrus fragments we have from Israel and Egypt needed a desert environment to survive thousands of years.
My guess is that Israel looked liked the land of Milk and Honey only in comparison to where the Israelites really came from, Mesopotamia.
That's my hunch, and I'll be glad to explain why tomorrow, since this is my last post for tonight.
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posted on
04/13/2004 8:33:57 PM PDT
by
Dog Gone
To: lizma
There's a theory that at end of the ice age there was a drought that caused agriculture to be started by sheer necessity. I've heard a similar theory: the end of the ice age resulted in an increase in the human population in the middle-east. Though these hunter-gatherers knew about plants and may have cultivated them as a sideline, the hunter-gatherer life was fairly easy (you needed to hunt/gather about 4 hours a day to feed your family), so they had no reason to become farmers. However, a long drought came along and there were too many humans around to be supported by hunting and gathering, so humans were gradually forced to turn to farming to survive.
Early farming was NOT an improvement in the quality of life for those involved- farming at that point took a lot more work and led to a less-varied diet, but humans were forced to farm out of necessity.
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posted on
04/13/2004 8:42:59 PM PDT
by
Modernman
(Work is the curse of the drinking classes. -Oscar Wilde)
To: blam
Bump - for being quintessentially late, even way back then
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posted on
04/13/2004 8:47:26 PM PDT
by
txhurl
(The Jihadists: spectacular media violence, zero military significance, huge psych significance.)
To: Dog Gone
"My dog will eat cat shit. It doesn't give me any ideas." I've read that it means your dog doesn't have enough protein in his diet.
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posted on
04/13/2004 9:02:20 PM PDT
by
blam
To: Modernman
Early farming was NOT an improvement in the quality of life for those involved- farming at that point took a lot more work and led to a less-varied diet, but humans were forced to farm out of necessity.
kAcknor Sez:
Forced because of a drought? After tens of thousands of years of simply moving on to another location when conditions changed all of a sudden we thought to grow food?
Ha! More than likely somebody was good a brewing the local ale and beer and found that when he spilled a little of the grain it grew where he had been working the season before. The next logical step would be to place it somewhere specific and THEN if there were a drought add a little water leading to irrigation.
Food was a by-product of getting sloshed. ;)
"bISovbejbe'DI' tImer" (When in doubt, surprise them.)
Have you checked the *bang_list today?
Get your daily dose of Newslinks!
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posted on
04/13/2004 9:04:06 PM PDT
by
kAcknor
(That's my version of it anyway....)
To: blam
You know, I'm a pretty serious nutritionist (albeit a 90o nutritionist), and I can pretty much prove that if you will give your dog one pound of 70/30 hamburger plus two raw eggs per day, you will produce a healthy, strong animal, compared to the IAMS diet stuff. At about 1/2 the price.
Many folks think dog 'food' is an improvement, ignoring canine dietary evolution.
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posted on
04/13/2004 9:11:53 PM PDT
by
txhurl
(The Jihadists: spectacular media violence, zero military significance, huge psych significance.)
To: blam
YEC INTREP
To: Dog Gone
It's thought that papyrus is only 5000 years old, about the time of Moses and we know by then much of the area was arid. The moderate climate in the ME was 5000 years before that.
I think your right. Moses's land of Milk and Honey was much different from the desert between Egypt and Israel but the ME much prior to that had a climate that was a very productive concerning agriculture.
In Diamond's "Guns, Germ and Steel" he make a good case for a latitudinal exchange of agriculture. From one armchair archaeologist to another, it's a fun book.
Also your comment on what your dog ate really broke up me and my 12 yo son. (He's an major archeology geek) Thank you.
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posted on
04/13/2004 10:03:40 PM PDT
by
lizma
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