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Caught Red-Handed! A 1995 memo from 9/11 commission member Gorelick
National Review ^ | 13 Apr, 2004 | FBI

Posted on 04/14/2004 4:13:18 AM PDT by Remember_Salamis

Gorelick in 1995 recommended separating counterintelligence activities from "counter-criminal" activities Just declassified by Ashcroft. We're finally defending ourselves!


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1 posted on 04/14/2004 4:13:19 AM PDT by Remember_Salamis
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To: Remember_Salamis
That link doesn't take me to National Review.
2 posted on 04/14/2004 4:16:36 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Remember_Salamis
"FBI agents experienced in al-Qaida's mode of operation were shut out of the search for two men who turned out to be among the 19 Sept. 11 hijackers. The investigation was being handled as an intelligence matter; they were criminal agents and the FBI maintained a strict wall between the two.

One agent in particular took an interest in the case, but the report said an FBI coordinator - dubbed Jane in the report - essentially called him off. Jane "felt he had to destroy his copy of the lead because it contained information she believed could not be shared with any criminal agents," the report said."

Hmmmmmmmmmmm......an FBI coordinator dubbed Jane???? Is anyone thinking what I am thinking?
3 posted on 04/14/2004 4:17:04 AM PDT by MagnoliaB (Never forget.)
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To: Remember_Salamis
It's the "smoking gun" everybody says they've been looking for.

Now, to track Ms. Gorelick's business, professional and academic relationships back to the days when she first decided to become a tool in the hands of a tall man with a beard.

Folks have been referring to this policy in a wide variety of posts made on FR for years and years. No one could ever point to a single memorandum or other device that might have been used to put it in place, but here it is, classified SECRET. BTW, whatever happened to Ambassador Wilson and his wife? Why are they so quiet this week? Maybe Valrie had something to do with the CIA's side of the "Wall".

4 posted on 04/14/2004 4:19:10 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Remember_Salamis
The 9/11 Commission is on the verge of becoming an utter failure. All it is doing is providing a forum for current and former officials to point fingers at each other. The only possible good that could come out of it is confirm that there were major structural obstacles to fighting terrorism. Those obstacles were largely eliminated in 2001 by the USA PATRIOT Act.

In their mindless resolve to bash Bush, the dems have put together a commission that will effectively confirm the necessity for the hated USA PATRIOT Act.
5 posted on 04/14/2004 4:21:24 AM PDT by bobjam
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To: Remember_Salamis
thanks.
6 posted on 04/14/2004 4:23:37 AM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: Remember_Salamis
IT JUST HIT ME!!!

Jaime GORE-LICK!!!

7 posted on 04/14/2004 4:23:53 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase ("Every man dies, but not every man truly lives...." Braveheart)
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To: Remember_Salamis
I love John Ashcroft. Does it need repeating?

I LOVE JOHN ASHCROFT!
8 posted on 04/14/2004 4:24:58 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (There is no problem so great that it cannot be solved with high powered explosives.)
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To: Remember_Salamis
Then there's that other female friend of Janet Reno's who served as Secretary of the Energy Department. Remember her contribution to national security ~ she forbid color coding of identification documents folks who worked in highly classified installations had to wear and display.

Next thing you know you had Wen Ho Lee, et al, running away with the secrets.

Was this nonsense organized? Were Plame, Gorelick and Hazel O'Leary part of a team?

It's time for that 9/11 Commission to start asking some hard questions.

9 posted on 04/14/2004 4:25:40 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Remember_Salamis
Caught Red-Handed!

So much potential meaning.

Blood red
Red socialism
Memo "read" outloud.
And (I hope) Gorelick will be "read out of the panel", just as Civil War officers were "Read out of the Army.

Discipline in the Civil War Armies

In those instances where a field officer was convicted of cowardice, his fate was nearly as ugly as an enlisted man's: he was publicly "read out of the army, his sword broken, his buttons stripped from his uniform; then, he was drummed out of camp, often with a sign around his neck that read "Coward."  Usually, in cases involving high disgrace, officers were expected to resign.

10 posted on 04/14/2004 4:27:02 AM PDT by syriacus (Cyberterror experts Clarke + Gorelick kept all terrorists disguised as electrons out of the USA)
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To: Remember_Salamis
#5 in the memo gets to the heart of it.
11 posted on 04/14/2004 4:28:38 AM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( President Bush 3-20-04))
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To: muawiyah
And don't forget the ever-helpful Secretary of State, Madeline Albright, changing the official designation from "rogue states" to "states of concern".

Whatta bunch of idiots.
12 posted on 04/14/2004 4:29:54 AM PDT by Timeout (Down with Donks!)
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To: Remember_Salamis
Here's a link to the article.
http://www.nationalreview.com/document/ashcroft200404131644.asp

Here's a link to the PDF file of the declassified memo.
http://www.nationalreview.com/document/document_1995_gorelick_memo.pdf
13 posted on 04/14/2004 4:29:57 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Dubh_Ghlase
Would that be Al or Tipper?
14 posted on 04/14/2004 4:31:25 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: muawiyah
Can we do a pool on who it is who did the Wilson/Plame leak? I'll put big money on a certain Mr. Clarke.
15 posted on 04/14/2004 4:32:06 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Remember_Salamis
Down the Memory Hole with this one, as well.

People don't get it: The Sheep Don't Care!
16 posted on 04/14/2004 4:33:55 AM PDT by Old Sarge
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To: Remember_Salamis

Corrupt Democrat obstructing the 911 Commission:
"We Democrats own the Commission.
We Democrats own the schools and universities and the unions.
We Democrats own the media.
We Democrats even control the vote of the dead.
You bet that I personally dared refuse repeat DOJ requests for investigations of dangerous illegal aliens.
and I even personally arranged to stovepipe intelligence to make intraagency effective communication useless.
I even arranged for the illegal aliens who were felons to be voters for our Democratic party.
Ha. We even have John Aschroft's and each and every RINO's FBI file on our home and DNC computers.
So what are you wusses dare gonna do about it? Nothing. Now sit down
"


PARTIAL LIST OF TERRORIST ACTIVITIES IGNORED BY GORELICK, CLARKE and CLINTON

1993 Attempted Assassination of Pres. Bush Sr., April 14,1993
1993 First World Trade Center bombing, February 26th, 7 Killed, Hundreds injured, Billions
1995 Attack on US Diplomats in Pakistan, Mar 8,1995
1996 Khobar Towers attack
1998 U.S. Embassy Bombing in Peru, Jan 15, 1998
1998 U.S. Kenya Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1998 U.S. Tanzania Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1999 Plot to blow up Space Needle (thwarted)
2000 USS Cole attacked, many U.S. Navy sailors murdered


AMERICANS DEMAND AN INDEPENDENT 911 COMMISSION

YOU GOTTA FREEP THIS - Gorlick made the interagency Intel wall AND refused attempts by the DOJ to investigate aliens
yet NOW she "guards the guardians". This is corrupt.

BREAKING: Ashcroft has declassified a report Gorelick wrote several years ago
that established the wall that protects against Intel. agencies sharing information.
Background 911 Threads

TWO DAYS AGO

"Back in September 1994, I recommended to Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick
that the DoJ strengthen investigative powers against suspected 'undesirable aliens,' accelerating
deportation appeal proceedings and limiting U.S. participation in a visa waiver pilot program under which 9.5 million foreigners entered the U.S. in 1994."

[Former FBI Director Louis Freeh]

GORELICK SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE COMMISSION NOW
OR A WARNING LABEL HERALDING THE WILLFUL IMPROPRIETY SHOULD BE ON THE COVER

Making a mockery of justice, Jamie Gorelick,
1) who established the wall that protects against Intel.agencies sharing information
that created the 911 Atrocites, and

2) who REFUSED to take Former FBI Director Louis Freeh's
recommendation now Judges what happened. Isn't that special?


FREEP: Phone Commission at 202-331-4060
Email Commission at info@9-11commission.gov
put Thomas Kean in the subject line.

DEMAND THAT GORELICK BE REMOVED! FOR EITHER REASON #1 or #2 or both or other reasons suggested below.

info@9-11commission.gov

DONT FORGET - PUT THOMAS KEAN IN THE SUBJECT LINE

17 posted on 04/14/2004 4:42:35 AM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: Remember_Salamis; All
References:

 
 
 
GORELICK GATE: ASHCROFT HITS BACK AT PANEL
New York Post ^ | April 14, 2004 | By VINCENT MORRIS and ANDY SOLTIS
 
 
 
 
Gorelick's history
WashingtonTimes.com ^ | April 14, 2004 | Greg Pierce
 
 
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1117190/posts
Gorelick Licked
The American Spectator ^ | 4.14.04 | Wlady Pleszczynski

18 posted on 04/14/2004 4:45:05 AM PDT by backhoe ( [Liberals - they require a delusional utopia...])
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To: backhoe
Good links Backhoe...especially liked The American Spectator's take.
19 posted on 04/14/2004 4:58:10 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: bobjam
In their mindless resolve to bash Bush, the dems have put together a commission that will effectively confirm the necessity for the hated USA PATRIOT Act.

Excellent point.

20 posted on 04/14/2004 5:03:35 AM PDT by syriacus (Cyberterror experts Clarke+Gorelick kept terrorists who were disguised as electrons out of the US)
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To: Diogenesis
Isn't it possible that the whole 9/11 thing has been a charade for the purpose of outing an AlQaida ground support team member who infiltrated the Clinton administration?

Does this ol'gal know Barbara Hatch Rosenburg?

I will do a Google search and see what comes up.

21 posted on 04/14/2004 5:12:27 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Remember_Salamis
Gorelick Memo Declassified (Graphics of 4 page document)
22 posted on 04/14/2004 5:14:02 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Maybe both...
23 posted on 04/14/2004 5:16:38 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase ("Every man dies, but not every man truly lives...." Braveheart)
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To: muawiyah
Could be. Gorelick IS intimitely involved to cover this up.
24 posted on 04/14/2004 5:16:51 AM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: Cuttnhorse

25 posted on 04/14/2004 5:20:32 AM PDT by backhoe (--30--)
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To: backhoe
I'm glad you are collecting information on Gorelick before it is wiped clean from the internet.

Here is some "disappeared" information that is still in a google cache

http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:hf6OZL2WSf8J:www.wilmer.com/docs/subpage.cfm%3FSECTION%3Dlawyers%26PAGE%3Dlawyer%26ID%3D4603+Twenty-Five+Most+Influential+Working+Mothers+in+America&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Partner
2445 M Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20037

Phone: 202-663-6500
Fax: 202-663-6363
Jamie.Gorelick@wilmer.com

 
Jamie Gorelick's career has spanned the legal, policy, and corporate landscape. As one of Washington's best-known litigators she has represented corporations and individuals on a wide array of problems, particularly in the regulatory and enforcement arenas. She has particular experience in corporate governance and compliance, as well as internal corporate investigations and is the co-author of the leading treatise on the maintenance of corporate documents. Ms. Gorelick's leadership in the bar was recognized when she served as President of the District of Columbia Bar.

In addition to her substantial litigation background, Ms. Gorelick has held senior positions in government and public service. She currently is a member of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, which is charged with finding out why the U.S. was unprepared for the attacks of September 11, 2001, and what changes should be made in the nation's capabilities to defend itself against terrorism. She was well-prepared for this service by her tenure -- from 1994 to 1997 -- as Deputy Attorney General of the United States, the second highest position in the Department of Justice. In that role, she supervised all the United States Attorneys, the litigating divisions of the Department and the law enforcement agencies, including the Federal Bureau of Investigation; she was also the chief operating officer with responsibility for over 100,000 people and a budget of more than $18 billion. Ms. Gorelick came to this position from the Department of Defense, where she was General Counsel, running the country's largest law firm. She is a member of the Central Intelligence Agency's National Security Advisory Panel and has served on numerous government commissions.

Earlier in her career, Ms. Gorelick was Vice Chair of the Task Force on the Audit, Inspection and Investigative Components of the Department of Defense, which led to the institution of an Inspector General there, and she was Assistant to the Secretary and Counselor to the Deputy Secretary of Energy.

Ms. Gorelick also has held senior positions in the corporate sector. For six years, from 1997 to 2003, she was Vice Chair of Fannie Mae, the company that is the nation's largest source of housing finance. There, she shared responsibility for the overall management of the company, with a special emphasis on affordable housing. Ms. Gorelick also is a member of the boards of directors of United Technologies Corporation and Schlumberger, Ltd.

Ms. Gorelick is a graduate of Harvard College, where she was Radcliffe Orator, and Harvard Law School, on whose Visiting Committee she serves. She is a member of Harvard College's Board of Overseers. She also is on the boards of the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, the Washington Legal Clinic for the Homeless, and the Supreme Court Fellows Commission. She is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Ms. Gorelick has received many awards and commendations, including the Secretary of Defense Distinguished Service Medal, the Director of Central Intelligence Award, the Department of Justice's Edmund J. Randolph Award, the Outstanding Public Interest Advocate of the Year Award, the Radcliffe College Alumnae Recognition Award, the Wickersham Award for Exceptional Public Service and Dedication to the Legal Profession, the American Bar Association's Margaret Brent Award, the Prominent Women in International Law Award, the Women's Bar Association's Woman Lawyer of the Year Award, the American Jewish Committees Judge Learned Hand Award, the NOW Legal Defense and Education Fund's Aiming High Award, and the D.C. Chamber of Commerce's Corporate Leadership Award. She has been listed in Fortune Magazines Fifty Most Powerful Women in Business and Working Mother Magazine's Twenty-Five Most Influential Working Mothers in America.

 

 
26 posted on 04/14/2004 5:29:17 AM PDT by syriacus (Cyberterror experts Clarke+Gorelick kept terrorists who were disguised as electrons out of the US)
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To: TomGuy
Does anyone here know what name Jamie Gorelick operated under in her youth?

You ever do a Google.com search for "Gorelick" and "Rosenberg" at the same time? It's like "Smith" and "Jones" in there!

27 posted on 04/14/2004 5:29:43 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: bobjam
“The 9/11 Commission is on the verge of becoming an utter failure” - It's not on the verge, it is an utter failure. They have turned it into a political circus. Nothing positive will result from this Bush Witch hunt. The intent is to blame Bush for 9/11 and absolve Clinton. What a waste of time and tax payers money.
28 posted on 04/14/2004 5:31:22 AM PDT by Shane
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To: syriacus
"Earlier in her career, Ms. Gorelick was Vice Chair of the Task Force on the Audit, Inspection and Investigative Components of the Department of Defense, which led to the institution of an Inspector General there, and she was Assistant to the Secretary and Counselor to the Deputy Secretary of Energy."

Absolutely fantastic! You have just connected this ol'gal to Hazel O'Leary (and the Wen Ho Lee scandals), the three Inspector General scandals, one of which resulted in the firing of Carla Corcoran, the USPS IG whose tenure overlapped the anthrax attack on the USPS (Carla was formerly at Air Force and brought in a lot of questionable "new hires" to the IG's shop at the Postal Service OIG).

It's looking more and more like Gorelick is one of the chief players in the girl gang that's wrought so much havoc in this country over the last decade.

So, what is her relationship to Monica Lewinsky? Just gotta' be one, eh, for the Presidential blackmail component of the game?!

29 posted on 04/14/2004 5:35:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
You are really, really good at keeping track of details...
30 posted on 04/14/2004 5:38:07 AM PDT by syriacus (Cyberterror experts Clarke+Gorelick kept terrorists who were disguised as electrons out of the US)
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To: syriacus
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/6-19-03/discussion.cgi.42.html

Gorelick is also a member of


Gosh, this woman gets around.

I hope she pays her secretaries very well.

31 posted on 04/14/2004 5:43:52 AM PDT by syriacus (Cyberterror experts Clarke+Gorelick kept terrorists who were disguised as electrons out of the US)
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To: MEG33
Actually, it does, but downloads a .pdf file.

http://www.nationalreview.com/document/document_1995_gorelick_memo.pdf
32 posted on 04/14/2004 5:45:48 AM PDT by TheBattman (Leadership = http://www.georgewbush.com/)
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To: Diogenesis
FReeped.
33 posted on 04/14/2004 5:46:04 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Because Democrats are liars, they assume Republicans are too...)
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To: Remember_Salamis
From http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_03_28.php, April 02, 2004 -- 11:32 PM EDT

Jamie Gorelick:

"We can't afford to have documents that are relevant to our inquiry being withheld on a technicality.".
Sweet, sweet irony. :-)
34 posted on 04/14/2004 5:48:49 AM PDT by syriacus (Cyberterror experts Clarke+Gorelick kept terrorists who were disguised as electrons out of the US)
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To: Timeout
"Whatta bunch of idiots."

And all female friends/associates of HRC.

35 posted on 04/14/2004 5:55:17 AM PDT by Maria S (Assigned parking only...all violators will be towed)
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To: syriacus
"What do you do when you're 'branded,' and you know you're a MAN!"
36 posted on 04/14/2004 5:58:02 AM PDT by Solamente
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To: Dubh_Ghlase
Jaime GORE-LICK!!!


EEEWWWW!! The picture that brings to mind!! Yuk!

Suddenly I don't want breakfast anymore!
37 posted on 04/14/2004 5:59:01 AM PDT by mom3boys
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To: Remember_Salamis
Thank you, Ashcroft. Now if someone can take that awful Ben Viniste down a step or two.
38 posted on 04/14/2004 6:01:36 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Solamente
"What do you do when you're 'branded,' and you know you're a MAN!"

LOL.

Wherever you go, for the rest of your life
You are
branded.

Gorelick branded herself. Her own words turned around and bit her.

39 posted on 04/14/2004 6:05:32 AM PDT by syriacus (Cyberterror experts Clarke+Gorelick kept terrorists who were disguised as electrons out of the US)
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To: syriacus
"Ms. Gorelick also is a member of the boards of directors of United Technologies Corporation and Schlumberger, Ltd."


Reading that Miz gorelick is on the Schlumberger board made me laugh out loud! After all of the Halliburton/Cheney crap we've heard for 3 years now! If you've ever driven through Oklahoma or Texas where there's drilling going on, Schlumberger trucks are ALL you see. (Pronounce it 'slum burr SHJAY' when you're spreading this tidbit to your liberal friends.)


http://www.slb.com/
Schlumberger:
The leading oilfield services company supplying technology, project management, and information solutions to the oil and gas industry.

40 posted on 04/14/2004 6:11:06 AM PDT by Maria S (Assigned parking only...all violators will be towed)
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To: MEG33
that's who posted the document
41 posted on 04/14/2004 6:22:19 AM PDT by Remember_Salamis
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To: bobjam
The 9/11 Commission is on the verge of becoming an utter failure.

What do you mean on the verge? It already is to anyone w/ a grain of objectivity. Don't expect "the masses" to all draw that conclusion. ;)

42 posted on 04/14/2004 6:24:57 AM PDT by wingster
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All I know is that this is starting to get interesting. The more dirt/crap they find on Klintoon and his band of Klowns, the more it hurts F'n Kerry b/c he's in the same mold.
43 posted on 04/14/2004 6:26:52 AM PDT by wingster
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To: syriacus
Just like in "BRANDED"
44 posted on 04/14/2004 6:31:25 AM PDT by FlatLandBeer
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To: Maria S
Oh, Ho!!

Thanks for the information.

45 posted on 04/14/2004 6:41:13 AM PDT by syriacus (Cyberterror experts Clarke+Gorelick kept terrorists who were disguised as electrons out of the US)
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To: muawiyah
"Does this ol'gal know Barbara Hatch Rosenburg?"

You meant Ethel Rosenberg perhaps?



46 posted on 04/14/2004 6:41:37 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz
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To: Timeout
And don't forget the ever-helpful Secretary of State, Madeline Albright, changing the official designation from "rogue states" to "states of concern".

Let's not forget that her employees had the awful luck of losing their laptops....yeah, the ones with sensitive material on them.

47 posted on 04/14/2004 6:54:48 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: Maria S
So... SLB- SIS is "into" Information Management. From their web pages:
Safely optimize the flow of your information throughout its lifecycle and integrate the results. more...

I hope, for their sake, that Gorelick hasn't been raising firewalls in the wrong place there, like she raised them in the wrong places in our government.

With such a love of raising walls, Gorelick should have considered a career as a bricklayer.


Gorelick says:
"Dick Carke and I just knew that
the terrorists would change themselves into tiny electrons
and travel via the internet to kill thousands of innocent Americans
so we worked very, very hard on our Manhattan Project"

Convinced that an electronic Pearl Harbor is imminent, the US is already taking steps to protect itself. Jamie Gorelick, deputy attorney general, has called for an effort similar to the Manhattan Project, which developed the first atomic bomb, to harden federal computer systems against electronic attack.

48 posted on 04/14/2004 7:06:45 AM PDT by syriacus (Cyberterror experts Clarke+Gorelick kept terrorists who were disguised as electrons out of the US)
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To: bobjam
The 9/11 Commission is on the verge of becoming an utter failure.

I agree, if not already. This memo is a disaster for Gorelick and the commission. Americans think it's a joke with the only purpose of attacking Bush. Now it backfires hugh.

49 posted on 04/14/2004 7:09:48 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Remember_Salamis
Could somebody here post the actual memo on this thread?
50 posted on 04/14/2004 7:13:59 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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