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Al-Sadr drops conditions for talks with U.S., according to his spokesman
Ha'aretz ^ | 4/14/04 | Ha'aretz ticker

Posted on 04/14/2004 7:35:51 AM PDT by TheConservator

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To: Chu Gary; HELLRAISER II
Look at the big picture HR II. The majority of the news you're getting is from the ultra liberal media as they seek to overthrow GWB. I truly believe that the faction in Iraq that is ungrateful are Baath holdovers, some malcontents, plus Iranians, some Syrians, some Saudis, etc.

A Marine Captain, currently in Iraq, spoke to this on Hannity's radio show yesterday. He mirrored what you have said, Chu Gary. He said that any Iraqi who speaks out in support of the U.S. on camera is a very courageous person because they and all their family will then be in danger of being tortured and murdered. He said that most will tell you privately that they are glad that we are there and Saddam is gone. That is believable and understandable to me. Very interesting too because I have seen lots of pics/video of Iraquis cheering our troops and/or protesting Saddam loyalists. Ya gotta be pretty happy to risk your life to show it.

41 posted on 04/14/2004 9:47:28 AM PDT by TigersEye (One nation under God ....... or war.)
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To: TheConservator
The "Talks" should revolve around whether Sadr is served "Well Done" or "Tartar". Anything beyond that should involve munitions.
42 posted on 04/14/2004 10:00:55 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: HELLRAISER II
We're the greatest Country on the planet and losing isn't even an option in my opinion.

Amen to that!

The Dem. leadership and mainstream media however consider losing a goal. A coveted goal. I strongly believe in giving the benefit of the doubt but if you are still harboring doubts that the left, especially in the media, are in any way supportive of American interests (in so far as any moral or ethical values are concerned) then I think you should take another look at the bigger picture and honestly ask yourself if there is any way to see the left-wing POV as simply "misguided but sincere."

Analyse their words and actions back to 9/11. Back to '92. Back to Reagan, Carter, Nixon, Viet Nam. Roe v Wade.

Just another way of interpreting the 'American Dream?'

43 posted on 04/14/2004 10:05:02 AM PDT by TigersEye (One nation under God ....... or war.)
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To: Chu Gary
Probably the majority of the people are just like a lot of people you know and like. Scared but decent people."

You are right.

If we act like reasonable people and a reasonable force, ie *NOT* nuking or blasting our way in, but patiently waiting for Sadr to surrender, crack or beg for a way out, we will do well in the eyes of most Iraqis. And if IGC can defuse this, more the better.

44 posted on 04/14/2004 10:15:05 AM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com - I salute our brave fallen.)
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To: TheConservator
Sadr, baby... you have two choices. Well, actually three.

Permanent exile in Iran, or... Well-done or crispy?

45 posted on 04/14/2004 10:24:11 AM PDT by Publius6961 (.)
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To: Eurotwit
"Moqtada Sadr is ready to accept what the Marjaiya (the top Shiite spiritual leaders) ask for and to drop the conditions he had set for a mediation," Qais al-Khazaali told a press conference in Najaf."

Please........allow good ol' RightOnline, the Unofficial FR Translator, to.........umm.......well, translate:

"Oh s**t oh s**t oh s**t oh s**t........!!!!!!! JUST.......STOP...............SHOOTING AT US!!!!!! You win. You kicked our butts, Allah be praised. I want to LIVE. I really really really REALLY do. No more MARINES!!!!!!!"

46 posted on 04/14/2004 10:33:12 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: TigersEye
My American Dream and philosophy is that I am successful, I will continue to be successful, my country is successful and above else I/we (Americans) are winners, PERIOD! I'm so sick of hearing about losing and i'm sick & tired of the DemocRats trying to make all our children losers and dependent upon the State. The hell with the state, i'll provide for me & mine and live the real American Dream of success. Enough of my ranting, back to you TigersEye.
47 posted on 04/14/2004 12:03:45 PM PDT by HELLRAISER II (Give us another tax break Mr. President)
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To: All
Hi, Please take a moment and either call the President or send an email to let him know we, the American people back him. Also, if you could just tell one person to do the same and ask them to tell another, than God willing, we will flood the switchboard with calls and faxes like they have never seem. This is one way we can take it direct to the President and it can not be misled by the media or stupid polls.....
Please call or email and God bless:
Comments: 202-456-1111 Switchboard: 202-456-1414 FAX: 202-456-2461 E-Mail President George W. Bush: president@whitehouse.gov Vice President Richard Cheney: vice.president@whitehouse.gov

48 posted on 04/14/2004 12:09:03 PM PDT by Two-Bits (I still am amazed at the stupidity of the media...)
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To: McGavin999
WE should hold the Iranian Delegation hostage for 444 days just for old times sake.
49 posted on 04/14/2004 3:11:51 PM PDT by freedomtrail
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To: HELLRAISER II
Um...destroy Najaf? I share your contempt of Sadr and company, but damaging Najaf would complete destroy American efforts in Iraq.
50 posted on 04/14/2004 3:17:22 PM PDT by BJClinton (This is how one should do a sarcasm tag: </sarcasm>)
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To: TheConservator

51 posted on 04/14/2004 3:20:44 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: HELLRAISER II
Your American Dream and philosophy are a most auspicious wish. May it be so!
52 posted on 04/15/2004 6:33:42 AM PDT by TigersEye (One nation under God ....... or war.)
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To: BJClinton
Um...destroy Najaf? I share your contempt of Sadr and company, but damaging Najaf would complete destroy American efforts in Iraq.

I agree. Overreaction isn't going to help us.

Our forces can get it done without taking out hundreds or thousands of innocents (and yes there are a lot of innocents in this..) and escalating things to an unnessary and more dangerous level.

They're proving that as we speak...

53 posted on 04/15/2004 6:39:31 AM PDT by Allegra (And WAIT!! That's not all! Call now and receive this FREE....)
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To: Allegra
They're proving that as we speak...

I believe Sadr will give up soon. I'm surprised this thread has gone over 50 posts without some MOABite posting a picture of a MOAB or nuke.
54 posted on 04/15/2004 8:35:53 AM PDT by BJClinton (This is how one should do a sarcasm tag: </sarcasm>)
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To: BJClinton
Here:


55 posted on 04/15/2004 8:38:49 AM PDT by Peter J. Huss
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To: Peter J. Huss
Thanks. That'll teach 'em.</sarcasm>
56 posted on 04/15/2004 8:58:00 AM PDT by BJClinton (This is how one should do a sarcasm tag: &#60;/sarcasm&#62;)
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