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Unlike Bush/Kerry, Constitution Party Presidential Candidate Has Correct Iraq Plan: Get Out-Now!
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Posted on 04/15/2004 8:12:41 AM PDT by chance33_98

Unlike Bush/Kerry, Constitution Party Presidential Candidate Michael Anthony Peroutka Has Correct Iraq Plan: Get Out - Now!

4/15/2004 7:01:00 AM

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To: National Desk, Political Reporter

Contact: John Lofton, 301-873-4612 or 410-766-8591 Web: http://www.Peroutka2004.com

LAUREL, Md., April 15 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following statement is from Michael Anthony Peroutka, Constitution Party Presidential candidate:

"I like President Bush personally. He is a sincere man. I respect his office. But, it is becoming painfully obvious that he has no plan to get our country out of the un-Constitutional, bloody, deadly, mess going on in Iraq. In fact, Mr. Bush and John Kerry both favor putting more troops into Iraq. In his recent press conference, Mr. Bush said our troops would be in Iraq 'as long as necessary,' 'for a while,' until Iraq is 'a free country.' He said Iraqis would provide their own security 'eventually.' I strongly disagree. As President, I would move immediately to withdraw all our troops from Iraq in a way that would provide for the safety of those Iraqis who worked with us during this illegal, wrong-headed war.

"I, like President Bush, hope that the Iraqi people, and all people, will be free from tyranny. But, unlike President Bush, I realize that, Constitutionally, as President, it would not be my job to use our military to spread 'freedom' everywhere in the world. Unlike President Bush, I, as President, would realize that I had been elected President of the United States, not President of the World.

"In 1821, John Quincy Adams said, of America: 'She goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.' But, ignoring Adams' wise advice, President Bush, using our military, has gone abroad and destroyed the monster Saddam Hussein who posed no threat to the vital national security interests of our country. The result: We are bogged down in a bloody and expensive mess with no end in sight. If elected President, however, I would move immediately to end our involvement in Iraq. I am not one who believes that when you are in a hole you should not be in, you should keep digging."


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1 posted on 04/15/2004 8:12:42 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98

2 posted on 04/15/2004 8:14:39 AM PDT by Smartass ("HANOI JOHN KERRY" IS A MISERABLE TRAITOR)
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To: chance33_98
Geez, I consider myself (note lower case) a libertarian constitutionalist.

This guy isn't living in the reality of our time. It IS national defense to seek out and destroy threats. We can no longer protect our country by having repelling armies strictly inside our own borders.
3 posted on 04/15/2004 8:17:00 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: chance33_98
I heartily disagree! We need to stay the course. It will help out in the future, pulling out will just be pulling a French!
4 posted on 04/15/2004 8:17:11 AM PDT by Core_Conservative ("right now western Europe is looking like a dead horse." Mark Steyn)
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To: chance33_98
"We are bogged down in a bloody and expensive mess with no end in sight. If elected President, however, I would move immediately to end our involvement in Iraq. I am not one who believes that when you are in a hole you should not be in, you should keep digging."
Buh-bye.
5 posted on 04/15/2004 8:18:14 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: chance33_98
Oh great...another Paleo vs Neo conservative fight thread here at FR. Sit back and watch the insults fly. *sigh*
6 posted on 04/15/2004 8:18:25 AM PDT by egarvue (Martin Sheen is not my president...)
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To: chance33_98
To these people I usually say, "Fine you stay home and work on making the castle walls strong. Others will take the war to the enemy. Remember the Alamo. Let's not wait to be overwhelmed."
7 posted on 04/15/2004 8:19:45 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: chance33_98
Is this guy's VP pick still a Clymer?
8 posted on 04/15/2004 8:20:15 AM PDT by Constitution Day (FR needs your support... Become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: chance33_98
I despise people, regardless of their politics, when they say, "I like Bush, but"....

If they want to grind their own ax, by all means do so. Just spare us the hypocritical BS.

9 posted on 04/15/2004 8:21:15 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: chance33_98
Well, so much for the Constitution Party. If they can't figure out that this war needs to be fought, they've nothing to recommend themselves.
10 posted on 04/15/2004 8:22:01 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Voting Bush for lack of reasonable alternatives)
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To: chance33_98
As President, I would move immediately to withdraw all our troops from Iraq...

Good thing there's exactly ZERO chance of that happening.

My buddy's pet rabbit has the same chance of being elected President as this tool. Then again, that darn rabbit probably has a better policy on Iraq too.

11 posted on 04/15/2004 8:22:30 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: chance33_98
Even Neal Boortz can't go along with this mindless nonsense. The most important role of government is to defend the country. Without that, nothing else matters. Bush is defending the country against terrorism by going into Afghanistan and Iraq and getting at the root problem.
12 posted on 04/15/2004 8:22:30 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: chance33_98
I have to disagree.

For us to pull out now (hopefully things will be much better by the Nov election), the terrorists would have another victory. Our future battles would be on American soil, in the homeland, in the heartland.

Remember, Somalia and Clinton's cut-and-run emboldened bin Laden and led greatly to 9-11-01.

Another cut and run would bring more atrocities on America.




What we do need to do is finish the war in Iraq before doing the diplomatic dipsy-doodle. We didn't finish the war; the Iraqi forces went into hiding in the civilian population.

If, after we hand over governmental control, we will see whether the Iraqi Council can maintain any order and control. If they can't, then we need to reevaluate our position.

13 posted on 04/15/2004 8:23:53 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: MrB
Well, we could return all of our overseas troops to within our borders and build 150 foot titanium walls along the Canadian and Mexican borders and also along the coasts of the Great Lakes, the Gulf of Mexico, and the Pacific and Atlantic oceans.

Sucks for beach goers, but we have a constitution to protect.
14 posted on 04/15/2004 8:26:38 AM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: chance33_98
This is real f*cking smart! Lets start from the beginning. In January 2005, the next POTUS is going to be either
A. John Kerry or
B. George W. Bush.
Which one do YOU WANT!?
15 posted on 04/15/2004 8:27:10 AM PDT by wjcsux (DemocRATS, Vladimir Lenin's "useful idiots".)
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To: chance33_98
Living in Massachusetts, I have the luxury of voting for 3rd party candidates without increasing the likelihood of a Kerry victory. (He's going to carry Massachusetts no matter who I vote for).

I was planning on voting for the Constitutionalist Party. Guess I'll have to rethink that position now. This guy is completely out to lunch.
16 posted on 04/15/2004 8:27:30 AM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: chance33_98
I am so tired of these stupid 3rd parties. Waste of time. The only time a 3rd party will be viable is when the liberal wing of the Republican party takes over and we put up pro-choice candidates for president the Christian right then has a reason to walk in huge enough numbers(which many already did from the dem party).... You then can kiss this country down the toilet because the dems will have control for years to come with the conservatives split.

Most people realize that this country is a 2 party system and are very dubious of these 3rd parties that seem full of loons to begin with. They are not even a viable option to the mainstream.

17 posted on 04/15/2004 8:28:54 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: chance33_98
"In 1821, John Quincy Adams said, of America: 'She goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.

Exactly. But Peroutka forgets that the monsters came to destroy us.

Mr. Write

18 posted on 04/15/2004 8:30:30 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than in this tagline.)
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To: chance33_98
Moron alert. Third parties might do well if they didn't continually nominate whackjobs and crackpots nursing conspiracy theories and having no grasp at all of current events.
19 posted on 04/15/2004 8:30:41 AM PDT by hopespringseternal (People should be banned for sophistry.)
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To: All
If the Constitution Party or Libertarians or any other party was serious about party building and not just indulging their personal egos, they would not be running people for President. Campaigns for national office cost money. A lot of money. Even if you don't (can't) advertise.

If you want to party build, you start at the bottom and grow. If you don't have people who served at the local level or state legislature, how will they have experience in legislation that qualify them for Congress? How could they staff congressional staff posts if they don't have a party infrastructure to draw from? If they haven't served in senior legislative or mayoral posts, how could they be qualified to be governor and if they haven't served in such posts or have party members who have, how would they staff the governor appointed positions within the state administration?

These guys are not serious about party building. They are just indulging their own egos and taking a vacation from their jobs at the expense of what few donors are foolish enough to send them money.
20 posted on 04/15/2004 8:31:59 AM PDT by Owen
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To: MrB
This guy isn't living in the reality of our time. It IS national defense to seek out and destroy threats. We can no longer protect our country by having repelling armies strictly inside our own borders.

Thanks, MrB! You said it much better than I could!

BTW, somebody should ask Mr. Peroutka where "From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli" came from the the Marine Corps' Hymn. Our military forces have been venturing outside of our borders to protect American interests for quite a long time.

21 posted on 04/15/2004 8:32:55 AM PDT by RebelBanker (Deo Vindice)
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To: chance33_98
Sounds like a weiner! Don't take my word on it, but I think he's going to win in November! (Or is it a "she"? Sorry, I don't have time to read the article. (or is it a 'manifesto'?))
22 posted on 04/15/2004 8:33:07 AM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: chance33_98
Just when I thought third parties couldn't get more marginalized, this guy comes along and proves me wrong.
23 posted on 04/15/2004 8:34:49 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: rhombus
Others will take the war to the enemy.

Exactly. The lesson of the two world wars of the last Century is that it is better that your enemies women, children and elderly suffer the deprivations of war than our own women, children and elderly. Americans that have shed their blood on foreign soil, on behalf of American defense and security, have saved their country twice.

24 posted on 04/15/2004 8:35:45 AM PDT by elbucko (I'm not a real SOB, but I play one on FreeRepublic.)
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To: Maceman
I have the luxury of voting for 3rd party candidates without increasing the likelihood of a Kerry victory.

Place a strategic vote for the Green Party. Doing so would help them qualify for matching funds for the next election cycle, and do more damage to the Rats.

25 posted on 04/15/2004 8:38:01 AM PDT by Cooter
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To: Catspaw
No kidding. More cut-and-run nonsense.
26 posted on 04/15/2004 8:40:53 AM PDT by hchutch (Tommy Thompson's ephedra ban STINKS.)
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To: chance33_98
I had actually considered voting Constitution Party this fall - Bush is almost certain to carry Virginia, so I can afford to. If this nut's the best the CP's got to offer, they're worthless. Buh-bye.
27 posted on 04/15/2004 8:41:47 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: chance33_98
But, it is becoming painfully obvious that he has no plan to get our country out of the un-Constitutional, bloody, deadly, mess going on in Iraq.

Sheesh. And the Constitutional Party wonders why it's relegated to obscurity.

28 posted on 04/15/2004 8:42:13 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: chance33_98
Is it not already painfully clear that the LP and the CP are tremendously deluded at best and probably worse than the Democrats?
29 posted on 04/15/2004 8:43:19 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Got some dirt on my shoulder -- could you brush it off for me?)
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To: chance33_98
"In 1821, John Quincy Adams said, of America: 'She goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.'

Uhh, dude, it ain't 1821.

I strongly suspect JQ would be a strong supporter of this war if he were alive today.

It is not possible for the most powerful nation on earth to maintain a foreign policy appropriate for a small nation remote from areas of conflict.

30 posted on 04/15/2004 8:47:17 AM PDT by Restorer
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To: chance33_98
In 1821, John Quincy Adams said, of America: 'She goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.'

Does someone want to introduce the concept of the Barbary pirates to this whackjob? It has always been the policy of the United States to take on threats to our national security that exist outside our own borders.

31 posted on 04/15/2004 8:52:51 AM PDT by kevkrom (The John Kerry Songbook: www.imakrom.com/kerrysongs)
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To: MrB
MrB -- I agree with you. On the other hand, I told two ministers on Wednesday there is a viable alternative because Iraq may explode into civil war because of meddling by Iran, Syria and the Saudis: Bring all U.S. troops home from the 124 countries they are now deployed to; eliminate all foreign aid to every nation; lock down U.S. borders and restrict all entry visas; withdraw from NAFTA; make it a crime to send U.S. jobs overseas; and fully enforce U.S. immigration law and deport all illegals.

Then use the billions we waste on foreign aid each year to rebuild our inner cities, rebuild our national infrastructure, educate the masses, help create new jobs, fund national health care for those who have none, and bring some new tax relief for middle income families.

These ministers opposed everything! They want to cure all the world's ills with U.S. taxpayers money by sending money and economic aid overseas. They want to build homes for the poor in South America and open our borders to workers from south of the border. They are just socialists disguised as Christians.

The whole world has just gone nuts. So, in the meantime, I will support Bush!

32 posted on 04/15/2004 8:55:17 AM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: chance33_98
Michael Anthony Peroutka, Constitution Party ;

1) cut and run
2) terrorists high five eaxh other
3) Kerry gets elected
4) New York gets Nuked
5) Marshal Law
6) Constitution is repealed
7) Canukistan sends advisors
8) United States becomes ward of United Nations.

33 posted on 04/15/2004 8:58:13 AM PDT by hosepipe
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To: BlueLancer; Poohbah; dighton; aculeus; general_re
Ahem...
34 posted on 04/15/2004 8:59:27 AM PDT by L,TOWM (From the "Party of Jefferson" to the "Party of Shmeagle" in less than 200 years...)
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To: chance33_98
"In 1821, John Quincy Adams said, of America: 'She goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.' But, ignoring Adams' wise advice, President Bush, using our military, has gone abroad and destroyed the monster Saddam Hussein who posed no threat to the vital national security interests of our country.

In 1821, it was not possible for islamic jihadists to hijack planes and crash them into skyscrapers.
In 1821, it was not possible for islamic jihadists to obtain weapons of mass destruction and smuggle them into this country.
In 1821, it was not possible for islamic jihadists to funnel funds into this country to support their cells that were already resident (some legally and some illegally) in this country.

A few things have changed since John Q Adams uttered those words in 1821.

35 posted on 04/15/2004 9:00:23 AM PDT by VRWCmember (Bush's Viet Nam?! Shut up, Teddy; Iraq isn't even Bush's Chappaquidick!)
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To: chance33_98
I'd laugh if it weren't so sad...

Libertarians at work ...

Where's Pat Buchanen when you need him?
36 posted on 04/15/2004 9:01:11 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: ex-Texan
I always ask socialists, when they bring up some favorite social program (health care for the chiilllllllldruhn), what the name of the private charity is that they have worked to set up in order to accomplish this.

Almost always greeted with a blank stare.

Then I say, "OH! you want to use the legal, lethal force of government to confiscate others' earned property in order to fund YOUR pet charity. How nice of you!"
37 posted on 04/15/2004 9:02:03 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Owen
I agree. The best way to build a minor party is to run candidates at the local and state levels, and then formally endorse (or officially refrain from endorsing) one of the major candidates on the national level.

Of course, this approach itself has its flaws. For the life of me, I can't understand how Rudy Giuliani could get the endorsement of both the Liberal and Conservative parties in his 1997 run for mayor of New York. One of those two parties should have gone out of business after that one.

38 posted on 04/15/2004 9:02:32 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE north strong and free.)
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To: hopespringseternal
Moron alert. Third parties might do well if they didn't continually nominate whackjobs and crackpots nursing conspiracy theories and having no grasp at all of current events.
The last 3rd party candidate that wasn't a whack job was Teddy Roosevelt who ran against Taft and Wilson in 1914. He ran on the "Bull Moose" Party.
39 posted on 04/15/2004 9:08:23 AM PDT by wjcsux (DemocRATS, Vladimir Lenin's "useful idiots".)
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To: VRWCmember
We are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ trolls, terrorists, .05% third party fringees, democrats and the mainstream media are sad ~ very sad!

~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~

40 posted on 04/15/2004 9:16:33 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: L,TOWM; dighton; aculeus; general_re; Constitution Day; hellinahandcart
"Ahem..."

Ahem, indeed ...

And my wife was just asking me about the Constitution Party yesterday. She just couldn't understand how anyone could NOT support a group calling themselves the "Constitution Party". I showed her this ... her response was unprintable.

41 posted on 04/15/2004 9:21:35 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: chance33_98
Absolutely pathetic. The Constitution Party sounds like Pitchfork Pat Buchanan on this one or the socialists in Spain.

Bush has done a lot of things wrong. Fighting the war on terror and taking down Saddam's regime isn't one of those things.

42 posted on 04/15/2004 9:27:20 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: MrB
And the American people have the correct plan for the Constitution Party canidate: "Stick your ingorant ideas where the sun doesn't shine!"
43 posted on 04/15/2004 9:27:27 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: chance33_98
Friends, this is great news. Bush now stands to pick up a good number of the Constitution Party member votes.
44 posted on 04/15/2004 9:29:18 AM PDT by bsaunders
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To: chance33_98
The Constitution Party couldn't become more of a joke even if they were to shave their heads, don robes and pass out literature at airports.
45 posted on 04/15/2004 9:31:34 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (So you're a feminist - isn't that cute!)
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To: bsaunders
Bush now stands to pick up a good number of the Constitution Party member votes

Both of them? Wow...

I do question how we can get the more conservative party back to Constitutional limits on government instead of being "socialist lite".

46 posted on 04/15/2004 9:31:58 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: chance33_98
The "Constitution Party" apparently doesn't approve of either Thomas Jefferson or Andrew Jackson. Jefferson engaged in a "preemptive war" against the Barbary Pirates to end Muslim terrorism WITHOUT a declaration of war; and Andrew Jackson evicted British and Indians from Florida WITHOUT a declaration of war.

No thanks. I like Pres. Bush, who understands that Iraq is key in the war on terror.

47 posted on 04/15/2004 9:37:47 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: LS
The CP, which has always been extremely marginal, has now done what seemed impossible: i.e. marginalized itself even further.

Their candidate could not be more wrong.

Here is my opinion on this matter:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1118186/posts

48 posted on 04/15/2004 9:44:15 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: chance33_98
Well, if Bush signed the AWB, I'd have considered going for this guy. Now I won't. Or LP either.

My options are beginning to suck, so will stick with Bush I suppose even if he does it.
49 posted on 04/15/2004 9:45:55 AM PDT by Monty22
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To: wjcsux
Check out the headline: "Bush/Kerry."

Haven't you heard that there isn't a dime's worth of difference between the Republicans and the Democrats?

If not, keep reading; you will.

50 posted on 04/15/2004 9:50:27 AM PDT by Chunga
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