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It's religion gone mad
Toronto Sun ^ | 04/16/04 | MICHAEL COREN

Posted on 04/17/2004 1:18:33 PM PDT by Pikamax

Sat, April 17, 2004

It's religion gone mad

By MICHAEL COREN -- For the Toronto Sun

HOW DOES one discuss the state of the Islamic faith, the Middle East, terrorism and the world without upsetting people? Frankly, it's almost impossible.

I'm not talking here of a fear of abuse and attack or of being accused of political incorrectness. I couldn't give a fig about that. No, I mean the need to hold on to common courtesy and avoiding making generalizations that could hurt good people.

Here are some recent examples, in that I have so little room to discuss this issue in full.

We used to be told by pop stars and other philosophers that "the Russians love their children too." It was self-evident then that all people loved their young. Now I'm not so sure. Do the Palestinians, for example, love their children too?

I should think most of them do.

But I have to be candid: many of them don't. We can't just rely on tired old relativism when we look at all this. Nobody who loves his or her child will send that little being out as a suicide bomber. Nobody who loves their children will line them up in front of tanks.

The natural instinct of a loving parent is to hide the children. Armed struggle and resistance I can understand, even if I do not approve. This, though, is something different. I've seen it myself. Mothers screaming for their tiny offspring to come out of the house, stand in front of Israeli patrols and throw stones at soldiers.

I take here no position on the causes of Israelis or Palestinians, but I do on the moral substance of a parent who would send children to fight the battles of adults.

Do not, please, tell me they have no option. There are legions of young Palestinian men willing to kill Israelis. It's just that children can sometimes be undetected. And are easily convinced of the delights of paradise in the world to come when, I quote, "Zionist skulls, blood and limbs fly against the walls."

British Muslim fundamentalists planned terror attacks and arrests were made in Ilford, England, my hometown. Boring Ilford may be, but nobody is oppressed there! Muslims who grew up with British democracy, free British health care, free British education and British tolerance have no reason to kill anyone, let alone those who gave them such privilege.

Remember, these people came to Britain, as they did to Canada, the United States and the rest of the free, Christian-based world to escape Islamic states and their harshness.

It is the pluralistic openness and decency of Europe and North America that has allowed so many Muslim immigrants. How ironic that a minority of those people hate that very pluralism and decency and want to slaughter women and children in the name of their god and their cause.

I opposed the war in Iraq, but I cannot remain silent when people kill contract workers, then disembowel and hang them from wires in the street. While children dance.

And, no, these murderers are not refugees from pain but the favoured sons of Saddam. Their fight is to restore fascism, not liberate their nation. Even if it was, nothing justifies such sadism.

German bomber pilots, their planes shot down, would parachute into London after destroying entire towns and killing thousands of people. Almost without exception they were treated properly, as prisoners of war.

It's not about colonization, globalization, Zionism, American dominance or any other cliches. The Muslims themselves are colonizers, having pushed most Christians out of the Middle and near East, once the cradle of the Christian world.

The Ottoman Turks, Muslims all, colonized the region for centuries. Arabs colonized Persians, Assyrians, Kurds and others. The Saudis, sponsors of so much terror, are nobody's victims. They are wealthy beyond belief, and deprive women and minorities of most basic civil rights.

This is something deeper, darker, than an imagined fight against a foreign foe. There is a virus at work. For the sake of the good, law-abiding Muslims of the world -- the majority -- we cannot pretend any longer it's about anything other than what it is: a religion gone mad and gone bad.

Stop the lies, they only make it worse.

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To: Defiant
There are some people I suspect are "good Muslims" --- they come from Muslim countries, they don't wear burkas, or chadors or have their wives wear them here in the USA. They aren't Christian or Jew but if you ask them if they are Muslim they don't answer one way or the other --- they may say they were raised Muslim or their family is Muslim --- but there is a good reason they can't tell you ---- and that is that they face execution if they ever dare to leave or change faiths. I think those are what is meant by good Muslims --- they are being held in it by fear of death to themselves and their families.
21 posted on 04/17/2004 4:59:37 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: dozer7
please name three good muslims

OK, muslim sheets, muslim pillowcases and muslim tablecloths. Oh, wait, no that's muslin. Sorry, my bad.
22 posted on 04/17/2004 5:03:57 PM PDT by mean lunch lady ( "you can't scare me- I work in the lunchroom")
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To: Pikamax
"It's religion gone mad"


It's religion BEEN MAD from the start!
23 posted on 04/17/2004 5:07:56 PM PDT by observer5
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To: RonHolzwarth
Ok, you got me. I did not know that about the Children's Crusade, although as a parent, I still say they should have stopped their children even if they didn't send them. So, I guess I need to study on that for a while.
24 posted on 04/17/2004 5:11:29 PM PDT by mean lunch lady ( "you can't scare me- I work in the lunchroom")
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I personally know many good Muslims.
25 posted on 04/17/2004 9:42:42 PM PDT by Hildy (A kiss is the unborn child knocking at the door.)
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To: Hildy
Do you know any that don't bad mouth this country and also support our military?
26 posted on 04/17/2004 9:51:43 PM PDT by teldon30
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To: teldon30
Yes, I do.
27 posted on 04/17/2004 9:52:21 PM PDT by Hildy (A kiss is the unborn child knocking at the door.)
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To: Hildy
28 posted on 04/17/2004 10:00:17 PM PDT by teldon30
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Not sure if you got my meaning. There are good people who call themselves Muslim, but they are not faithful to what the religion plainly requires, and hence are not "good Muslims". They are like Christians who think that Christ was not divine, but merely a wise teacher who inspired love, only these people don't play bingo.
29 posted on 04/17/2004 11:20:36 PM PDT by Defiant (I left my old's standing yet.....but not for long.)
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To: Hildy
I know some who don't seem too bad at first --- on the surface --- but when you discuss what islam really means to them they become very scary. We had a friendly guy where we worked --- but he would say that he liked Americans and all --- but when it came down to it he would have to do whatever the ayatollahs told him must be done. They will tell you that muslim want peace but that peace can only be after all the world is united under the koran and that will have to be done by force at some point. But they can be very friendly people.
30 posted on 04/18/2004 5:54:39 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Hildy
It's hard to imagine how anything good can come from a murdering, envious, pedophile rapist --- whose favorite "wife" was one he married when she was 6 and who raped the widows of the men he killed. Muslims worship this man and believe he was the greatest ever but when you read what he was all about, you can't see how people who choose to follow that can be very good themselves.
31 posted on 04/18/2004 5:59:30 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Hildy
Anyone who espouses the teachings of the Quran is in no way "good".
32 posted on 04/18/2004 6:09:10 AM PDT by BOOTSTICK
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