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A clockwise turning low forms in Eastern Pacific!(This is history(
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Posted on 04/18/2004 1:08:01 AM PDT by Tropicalwatcher

Is spinning clockwise?????

At 12 north in 114 west wow wow wow

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/epac-ir4-loop.html

I don't know what to say :)

I'm new to freerepublic but have been watching for a few years.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: clockwise; easternpacific; iceage; poleshift; tropical; weirdstorm
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1 posted on 04/18/2004 1:08:02 AM PDT by Tropicalwatcher
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To: Tropicalwatcher
Tell us more. How is this different?
2 posted on 04/18/2004 1:10:41 AM PDT by Kay
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To: Kay
Because a low pressure, in the Eastern Pacific normally spins counter-clockwise.
3 posted on 04/18/2004 1:11:53 AM PDT by Tropicalwatcher
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To: Tropicalwatcher
It is not 114 west but 119 west.
4 posted on 04/18/2004 1:14:29 AM PDT by Tropicalwatcher
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To: Tropicalwatcher
what is the point?? Hurricane?? Shouldn't you explain this?
5 posted on 04/18/2004 1:14:39 AM PDT by GeronL (I wore my chair out FReeping. Now I use a plastic lawn chair.)
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To: Tropicalwatcher
Normally? or always? Has it ever happened before?

Similar to that hurricane that hit Brazil -- one of a kind?
6 posted on 04/18/2004 1:14:45 AM PDT by Kay
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To: Kay
I have never in my life seen a system like this. Not in the Eastern Pacific or north of the Equartor.
7 posted on 04/18/2004 1:15:59 AM PDT by Tropicalwatcher
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To: Tropicalwatcher
Lows in the NORTHERN hemisphere rotate counter-clockwise. In the southern hemisphere they spin clockwise as with the recent hurricane off Brazil.
8 posted on 04/18/2004 1:16:25 AM PDT by orchid (Defeat is worse than death, you have to LIVE with defeat.)
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To: Tropicalwatcher
WE'RE DOOOOOOOMED!
9 posted on 04/18/2004 1:17:53 AM PDT by uglybiker (Too much horsepower is just enough. -- Carrol Shelby)
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To: Tropicalwatcher
Earth changes
10 posted on 04/18/2004 1:18:08 AM PDT by rogueleader
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To: Kay
Down in Brazil they are supposed to spin in that direction, not North of the Equator.
11 posted on 04/18/2004 1:18:09 AM PDT by GeronL (I wore my chair out FReeping. Now I use a plastic lawn chair.)
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To: rogueleader
Strange Alien Shapes Seen in the Night Sky!!!
12 posted on 04/18/2004 1:18:50 AM PDT by GeronL (I wore my chair out FReeping. Now I use a plastic lawn chair.)
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To: orchid
Yes, look at 12 north in 119 west. The last 3 or 4 frames of the loop clearly shows it. History in the making :)
13 posted on 04/18/2004 1:19:12 AM PDT by Tropicalwatcher
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To: Tropicalwatcher
Link?
14 posted on 04/18/2004 1:21:14 AM PDT by per loin (This tagline has not been censored!)
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To: Tropicalwatcher
An Anomaly???
15 posted on 04/18/2004 1:21:32 AM PDT by orchid (Defeat is worse than death, you have to LIVE with defeat.)
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To: Tropicalwatcher
Interesting ....good catch.
16 posted on 04/18/2004 1:21:50 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear missiles: The ultimate Phallic symbol.)
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To: per loin
Here is the loop
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/epac-ir4-loop.html
17 posted on 04/18/2004 1:22:23 AM PDT by Tropicalwatcher
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To: Tropicalwatcher
It's all Bush's fault!
18 posted on 04/18/2004 1:24:46 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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To: Tropicalwatcher
How much you watch the satelite images? Good job.
19 posted on 04/18/2004 1:24:59 AM PDT by Kay
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To: Tropicalwatcher
So it takes 17 posts to get the link... hhmmmm

Hey you know anything about Blender 3D??

20 posted on 04/18/2004 1:26:05 AM PDT by GeronL (Any help with Blender 3d is NEEDED URGENTLY =o))
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To: Tropicalwatcher
That is physically impossible! Hmm.. I can't decide what I'm looking at but what I know I'm not looking at is a clockwise spinning hurricane in the Northern Hemisphere. It's just not possible unless the axis of the planet is moving!
21 posted on 04/18/2004 1:26:28 AM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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To: GeronL
I'm new to this board :) Know nothing about Blender 3D
22 posted on 04/18/2004 1:28:04 AM PDT by Tropicalwatcher
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To: GeronL
URL was posted at the top....easy for me to link to it.
23 posted on 04/18/2004 1:29:09 AM PDT by Kay
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And thus begins the next Ice Age. I guess I better start moving south.
24 posted on 04/18/2004 1:29:20 AM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: Tropicalwatcher
Well that does look unusual...

Being so close to the equator the forces that cause a low pressure system to spin one way or the other are pretty weak. The nearby wind patterns must have been stronger than the forces caused by the differences in the earth's relative surface velocity due to its rotation and being spherical (I have no idea what the actual term is called but that describes it).
25 posted on 04/18/2004 1:31:26 AM PDT by DB ()
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To: AntiGuv
Well it is what 12 degree north? What if the circulation started south of the equator. A very slow circulation that built up into a storm as it headed north.

Would you expect it to stop and turn the other direction as it crossed the equator? I do not know but could this explain it?
26 posted on 04/18/2004 1:31:38 AM PDT by JLS
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To: Kay
How did I miss THAT???

geez

27 posted on 04/18/2004 1:31:47 AM PDT by GeronL (Any help with Blender 3d is NEEDED URGENTLY =o))
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To: JLS
I'm not 100% certain, but to my recollection a tropical system can't cross the Equator because the Coriolis Effect will tear it apart. That link is distressing me.. :)
28 posted on 04/18/2004 1:33:25 AM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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To: AntiGuv
yes. We are all going to die.

It is a new mass extinction... and that means us.

29 posted on 04/18/2004 1:33:27 AM PDT by GeronL (Any help with Blender 3d is NEEDED URGENTLY =o))
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To: LdSentinal
And thus begins the next Ice Age. I guess I better start moving south.

But if this is evidence of a polar shift, by moving south, you'll actually be going north.

30 posted on 04/18/2004 1:35:06 AM PDT by uglybiker (Too much horsepower is just enough. -- Carrol Shelby)
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To: AntiGuv
Why isn't anything on the weather channel about this. It's just like last night, I never heard anything on the news about whatever crashed in Kentucky.
31 posted on 04/18/2004 1:35:54 AM PDT by mindspy
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To: AntiGuv
It is close to the equator. The earth's rotational forces that cause a low pressure to spin one way or the other go to zero at the equator. Local wind currents could have applied stronger forces to the low pressure system when it formed causing it to spin the other way.
32 posted on 04/18/2004 1:36:14 AM PDT by DB ()
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To: uglybiker
But if this is evidence of a polar shift, by moving south, you'll actually be going north.

Whoah . . .

33 posted on 04/18/2004 1:36:55 AM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: uglybiker
Say how?
34 posted on 04/18/2004 1:36:57 AM PDT by Kay
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To: Tropicalwatcher
It should be named Kerry after the DIM candidate who doesn't know which way to spin and flip flops a lot. Watch it change direction.



35 posted on 04/18/2004 1:37:36 AM PDT by Cacique
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To: mindspy
What crashed in Kentucky??
36 posted on 04/18/2004 1:37:44 AM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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To: Cacique
I agree.
37 posted on 04/18/2004 1:38:03 AM PDT by Tropicalwatcher
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To: AntiGuv
There was a comet or something. There is a thread on here about it. People said there houses shook and there were lights in the sky or fireballs.
38 posted on 04/18/2004 1:39:24 AM PDT by mindspy
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To: LdSentinal
Somebody whip out a compass and see which way the needle is pointing.
39 posted on 04/18/2004 1:39:50 AM PDT by rogueleader
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To: AntiGuv
That's what I've been wondering all day...
40 posted on 04/18/2004 1:40:31 AM PDT by kenth
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To: mindspy
Kentucky. Might have been my cousin from Zirkona, his guidence system is always failing. He's too cheap to get a new one. Now he'll have to find a human host and make his way down here to Texas where we're planning the take-over of the planet.
41 posted on 04/18/2004 1:41:29 AM PDT by GeronL (Any help with Blender 3d is NEEDED URGENTLY =o))
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To: kenth
Me too. Haven't heard a word about it though.
42 posted on 04/18/2004 1:41:45 AM PDT by mindspy
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To: DB
My suspicion is that it's a much weaker system than it appears, which would permit localized wind currents to effectively act upon it, but I'm still thinking about it.

Your basic point is almost certainly correct IMHO.
43 posted on 04/18/2004 1:41:54 AM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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To: mindspy
There was a comet or something.

meteorite. Comets are usually BIG... too big.

44 posted on 04/18/2004 1:42:17 AM PDT by GeronL (Any help with Blender 3d is NEEDED URGENTLY =o))
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To: AntiGuv
I don't think Coriolis forces are all that strong. As a matter of fact, I think they are now considered hypothetical!

It appears to me that you are seeing a clockwise vortex rotating between two boundary layers; the southern boundary trending west and the northern boundary trending north-east.

45 posted on 04/18/2004 1:43:01 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: AntiGuv
Your theory makes sense to me as does your response about the effects if a storm were to cross the equator.
46 posted on 04/18/2004 1:43:25 AM PDT by JLS
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To: GeronL
Oh. We'll I'm glad it was a meteorite or was it. Are you just correcting me (which I appreciate, I like to know thing I didn't know) or do you know for sure. If so, tell me. I want to know what the heck it was.
47 posted on 04/18/2004 1:45:30 AM PDT by mindspy
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To: mindspy
I don't know what it was. A comet would have ripped away the atmosphere and left a huge crater where North America used to be.

I said it might have been a meteorite.

48 posted on 04/18/2004 1:46:39 AM PDT by GeronL (Any help with Blender 3d is NEEDED URGENTLY =o))
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To: Tropicalwatcher; JLS; DB
OK, I'm fairly certain I've figured out what's going on. It's much clearer in the visible spectrum imagery.

There are two systems colliding, one more dispersed and one with evidently stronger winds but less precipitation. The stronger system is moving counterclockwise due west (as it should), and colliding into the southeast quadrant of the weaker system. It's basically 'sucking' the weaker system in, which is making it appear to move clockwise.

I am no longer distressed. :)

49 posted on 04/18/2004 1:49:22 AM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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To: GeronL
I fear asking this question. What part of B3D do you need help with?
50 posted on 04/18/2004 1:53:39 AM PDT by antiantiamericans
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