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The Truth About 'the Wall'( Gorelick Memo)
The Washington Post ^
| April 18, 2004
| Jamie S. Gorelick
Posted on 04/18/2004 7:11:04 AM PDT by Ramonan
Edited on 04/18/2004 7:16:56 AM PDT by Admin Moderator.
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The commission investigating the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has a critical dual mission to fulfill -- to help our nation understand how the worst assault on our homeland since Pearl Harbor could have occurred and to outline reforms to prevent new acts of terrorism. Under the leadership of former governor Tom Kean and former congressman Lee Hamilton, the commission has acted with professionalism and skill. Its hearings and the reports it has released have been highly informative, if often disturbing.
Sept. 11 united this country in shock and grief; the lessons from it must be learned in a spirit of unity, not of partisan rancor. At last week's hearing, Attorney General John Ashcroft, facing criticism, asserted that "the single greatest structural cause for September 11 was the wall that segregated criminal investigators and intelligence agents" and that I built that wall through a March 1995 memo.
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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911commission; gorelick; gorelickmemo; learntoformat; notanexcerpt; paragraphsarefriends; presidentbush; thewall; truthaboutthewall; waronterror
An attempt to justify the author's partisan tactics.
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posted on
04/18/2004 7:11:05 AM PDT
by
Ramonan
To: Ramonan
Under the leadership of former governor Tom Kean and former congressman Lee Hamilton, the commission has acted with professionalism and skill.
I've seen more skill at a high school debating society tryout!
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posted on
04/18/2004 7:15:18 AM PDT
by
Don Corleone
(Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
To: Ramonan
Another Cinton person refusing to admit they are wrong.
She shouldn't be writing op-eds in the press while the commission is still working, yet she tries to justify what cannot be justified.
I don't know why, but this reminds me of "I did not have sexual relations with that woman."
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posted on
04/18/2004 7:18:59 AM PDT
by
stylin_geek
(Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
To: Ramonan
Gorelick just added a brick or two, of course.
Still, Mr. Hume pretty well clinched the argument this morning when he noted that "she was a player".
Obviously she has no business on the 9/11 commission ~ no more than would Janet Reno or John Ashcroft.
Get her off of there; get her under oath; question her; find out just what her intentions, if any, really were.
For the Commission to end its work without dealing forthrightly with the Jamie Gorelick question will prove nothing more than that political street theatre works!
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posted on
04/18/2004 7:19:37 AM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: Don Corleone
Tom Daschle selected a group of "professional" government punks whose only objective is to preen before the TV cameras. By the way, the Republican selectees aren't that much better. The whole bunch of them should resign.
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posted on
04/18/2004 7:24:10 AM PDT
by
hgro
To: Ramonan
If the dems are going to put a participant in the lead up to 9/11 on the commission, then three republicans on it should resign from their seats so we can put Rice, Rumsfeld and Ashcroft on it. Listen to the dems howl about that.
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posted on
04/18/2004 7:25:38 AM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing. - Ann Coulter 4/1/04, How 9-11 Happened)
To: Ramonan

...I told them to stay out of our busines...
why won't they stay out of our business...
darned serfs, always trying to make trouble
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posted on
04/18/2004 7:35:07 AM PDT
by
Bobber58
(whatever it takes, for as long as it takes)
To: Ramonan
The rats via the 9/11 hearings have exposed themselves to the harsh reality of Americans finding out the real truth.
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posted on
04/18/2004 7:39:59 AM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Gorelick+the Clintoons+al Querry equal a Clear and Present Danger to Americans!)
To: hgro
I agree, they should all resign because they all share responsibility in what happened -- after all, they are the government.
Many of the participants have been on talk shows explaining these public hearings are being held for the benefit of the public, so they can better understand what happened and why. My question to them is; if that is the case, why are the really serious details being discussed behind closed doors in the name of national security? If we are to be governed by informed consent we need that information.
The public hearings are nothing more than theatre to pacify the voters and to cover their tracks.
If you look into the background of most of the these players, they have been involved in one scandal/coverup after another for most of my lifetime. They meet behind closed doors, keep the facts secret, further their own careers in government and thus, maintain power in the political arena . . . the uninformed voters go to the polls thinking they are doing the right thing. If knowledge is power, they sure aren't letting voters share in it.
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posted on
04/18/2004 7:42:05 AM PDT
by
TiaS
To: kristinn
Will the Washington Post give "equal time" if you wrote a response?
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posted on
04/18/2004 7:42:08 AM PDT
by
tgslTakoma
(Still waiting for my paycheck from Mr. Scaife...)
To: Ramonan
Stupid woman...........Won't testify but writes letters to the Post?
The dumb biatch just set herself up for the knockout punch. The Whitehouse has thousands of such memo's. That's what liberals do, they write memo's on top of memo's.
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posted on
04/18/2004 7:50:14 AM PDT
by
blackdog
(I feed the sheep the coyotes eat)
To: Ramonan
"Professionalism"--no doubt she means in the sense of being a professional shill for Clinton and Reno. "Skill"--this is doubtful, because I think it's backfiring. Giver her an E for Effort, but that's not a passing grade.
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posted on
04/18/2004 7:57:03 AM PDT
by
MizSterious
(First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
To: stylin_geek
"Another Cinton person refusing to admit they are wrong."Wanna know what's funny about that? The "question" asked by the reporter at the lynch mob press conference--Gregory started out by saying (might be paraphrasing a bit here) "You never admit your mistakes" before actually asking the question about what mistakes he might have made.
So tell me folks. What mistakes has anyone from the Clinton administration owned up to? That includes Clarke, because while he "apologized," he cast the blame elsewhere. He did not admit to any specific thing he did, nor did he admit to any specific thing the Clinton admin did.
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posted on
04/18/2004 8:04:13 AM PDT
by
MizSterious
(First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
To: muawiyah
"Get her off of there; get her under oath; question her; find out just what her intentions, if any, really were."
Bingo!! Let's look at her service at Justice and let's also look at her time at the Pentagon.
All of her "work" needs to see the light of day.
regards,
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posted on
04/18/2004 8:12:21 AM PDT
by
Jimmy Valentine
(DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
To: Ramonan
Let's apply some logic here. If this is an issue that requires a response in the Washington Post, it requires a response, under oath, before the commission.
BUT if Gorelick has to testify before the commission as a witness, she can't be on the commission as a member who will later be called on to evaluate that testimony. Therefore, Gorelick has to resign.
That wasn't so hard, was it?
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posted on
04/18/2004 8:48:59 AM PDT
by
PMCarey
To: MizSterious
What mistakes has anyone from the Clinton administration owned up to? Well, Clinton DID apologize for slavery.
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posted on
04/18/2004 8:50:24 AM PDT
by
Maceman
(Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
To: Ramonan
An attempt to justify the author's partisan tactics. ...just another example of an another Clintoons' DOD/DOJ official...being given space; by the Clintoons' Media Lackeys (ABCNNBCC_BS,NYT,WP & LAT) for the (infinite # of) excuses of their collective misdeeds.
...and the liberal press "GOES FOR IT" every time...like trained rats, that they are...the reason: to cover for their careful campaign of misinformation/cover-ups of the Clintoons' Regime.
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posted on
04/18/2004 9:10:40 AM PDT
by
skinkinthegrass
(Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
To: TiaS
The public hearings are nothing more than theatre to pacify the voters and to cover their tracks.Ain't that the truth!?!
To: TigersEye
To: Ramonan
...get her under oath; question her;...??? Someone expecting something other than spin here? Like the truth?
She condoned the paralysis between departments and with Reno strengthened the no-flow information policy. John Ashcroft has had his hands tied from the get go the Patriot Act will and has opened all doors of communication between law enforcement agencies but they still must contend with the legal turf wars...
...al-Shibh was arrested by Pakistani forces, after a yearlong hunt, in a shoot-out in Karachi. His capture complicates the Moussaoui trial. He was turned over to the United States for questioning and brought to an undisclosed military base, and is expected to be tried by a military tribunal. "They're gearing up," Eugene R. Fidell, an expert on military law, said. "This is going to take months to sort out, especially if al-Shibh has exculpatory material, and both sides are probably going to ask for an extension of time. Al-Shibh has to be made available, but what if he takes the Fifth?" The trial, presided over by Judge Leonie M. Brinkema, of the United States District Court in Alexandria, Virginia, is now set for January. Moussaoui's defense team, which has so far been denied access to captured Al Qaeda members, will certainly seek testimony from al-Shibh, according to Edward B. McMahon, Jr., one of Moussaoui's attorneys. "Judge Brinkema is going to have a moment of truth," Fidell said. "It's the highest-stakes poker you could imagine."
Because of the Reno cum-Gorelick departments efforts, Zacarias Moussaoui and others are living in the lap of luxury, using Americas generous justice system and tax dollars. And as has been stated, OBL and the terrorists are getting better protection than American Citizens.
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posted on
04/18/2004 9:25:10 AM PDT
by
yoe
(Political Correctness OUT! Profiling IN! Know your enemy!)
To: PMCarey
Nope, not hard logic at all.
An "independent commission" cant be called independent if they are examining themselves. Any person with such a major role as Gorelick in terrorism policy pre 9/11 has no business on the commission.
Otherwise, we could have saved the trouble of bringing all these old suits out of the closet and made it the Tenet/Ashcroft commission. (hmmm, on second thoughts that wuld have been a more balanced and professional commission.)
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posted on
04/18/2004 9:26:04 AM PDT
by
WOSG
(http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com - I salute our brave fallen.)
To: backhoe
Hey, backhoe!
Here's that documented liar and pig Gorelick trying to defend her aiding and abetting the terrorists in attacks that killed 3,000 Americans!
Claims the commission is NOT a finger-pointing charade of jack-in-the-box clowns. She denies that the "commission" is comprised of Democrat operatives who are trying to blame Bush and namby-pamby Republican go-alongs! Hilarious stuff!
I'll go add it to the links.
LH
To: Ramonan
Naturally, Gorelick runs to DNC mouthpiece 'The Washington Post' to get this lame "I-didn't-do-it-nobody-saw-me-you-can't-prove-anything" piece of drivel published.
To: Ramonan
Why is she addressing this in the Washington Post? If she wants to say that AG Ashcroft is lying, then why didn't she counter him during his testimony? Or, why doesn't she testify herself?
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posted on
04/18/2004 10:53:00 AM PDT
by
kenth
To: Ramonan
First, I did not invent the "wall," No, Ms. Gorelick, you didn't. But your memo raised it higher. By the memo's own admission: it "goes beyond the existing legal requirements".
You've still got some 'splainin' to do, lady.
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posted on
04/18/2004 11:17:22 AM PDT
by
okie01
(www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
To: kenth
Tht 9/11 commission is a farce!
We are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ trolls, terrorists, democrats and the mainstream media are sad ~ very sad!
~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~
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posted on
04/18/2004 11:34:55 AM PDT
by
blackie
(Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
To: Lancey Howard
bttt
To: Ramonan
bttt again
To: okie01
First, I did not invent the "wall,"Should have done what Reagan said:
"Ms. Gorelick teardown that wall!"
To: stylin_geek
Another Cinton person refusing to admit they are wrong.They can't possibly be wrong. After all they are the brightest, most intelligent and loving people on the face of the earth. They told me so themselves.</sarcasm>
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posted on
04/18/2004 2:15:14 PM PDT
by
reg45
To: reg45
Well, the world is made up of gray nuances.
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posted on
04/18/2004 2:17:59 PM PDT
by
stylin_geek
(Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
To: Ramonan
Also posted here:
The Truth about 'the Wall'
Posted by Piranha
On 04/17/2004 11:07:15 PM PDT with 139 comments
The Washington Post ^ | April 18, 2004 | Jamie S. Gorelick
To: Ramonan
My fellow commissioners have spoken for themselves in rejecting the call by a few partisans that I step aside based upon false premises.A few partisans? Most polls are showing over 90% wanting her removal!
I have worked hard to help(thwart) the American public understand what happened on Sept. 11. I intend -- with my brethren on the commission -- to finish the job.
She is finished...
To: Ramonan; Liz; Howlin; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog
Gorelick writes -
"The purpose of my memo was to resolve a problem presented to me: facilitating investigations on both the intelligence side and criminal side at the same time.From National Review Online 4/13/04 - Commissioner Gorelick, as deputy attorney general the number two official in the Department of Justice for three years beginning in 1994, was an architect of the government's self-imposed procedural wall, intentionally erected to prevent intelligence agents from pooling information with their law-enforcement counterparts.
She can clear up everything just by swearing in...
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posted on
04/19/2004 3:46:49 PM PDT
by
Libloather
(Hillary, I want my FBI file back...)
To: Libloather
I've got her seat right here:
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posted on
04/19/2004 3:51:59 PM PDT
by
Howlin
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