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Albania May Send More Troops to Iraq
Yahoo News ^ | 4/19/04 | AP

Posted on 04/19/2004 10:25:27 AM PDT by NYC Republican

Albania, a predominantly Muslim country, told the United States it was prepared to send more non-combat troops to Iraq (news - web sites), the government said Monday, in a possible expansion of the 71-member-strong contingent patrolling the northern city of Mosul under U.S. command.

Despite the small number of Albanian forces, the public commitment from Tirana was bound to be welcome news to the United States after Spain's weekend announcement that it was withdrawing its 1,300-member contingent as soon as possible.

Albanian Foreign Minister Kastriot Islami made the offer Friday in a letter to Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites).

The statement did not say what the increase would be. But earlier this month the defense ministry said it was considering increasing its commitment to 200 soldiers, despite the recent terrorist attacks against members of the U.S.-led coalition.

"We have expressed our readiness to positively respond to the request for additional forces and we are working to set the practical details to achieve that," the minister was quoted as telling Powell.

Albania was one of the most vocal backers of the U.S.-led war in Iraq. Although it was unable to provide significant military support, it opened its airspace and offered U.S.-led forces the use of its bases.


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Although this country's military is pathetic, it's still a good jesture overall. Now, if they can only quell the criminal activiy occurring in neighboring Kosovo...
1 posted on 04/19/2004 10:25:29 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
I remember WFB, Jr. writing thirty some odd years ago saying the Albania was a nation composed mainly of rocks and serfs.

It is wonderful to see a positive change. They should be applauded.

Blessings, Bobo
2 posted on 04/19/2004 10:38:52 AM PDT by bobo1
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To: NYC Republican
I agree.
3 posted on 04/19/2004 10:47:21 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
That's GOT to be a first, us agreeing on anything..
4 posted on 04/19/2004 11:06:27 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: bobo1
I remember WFB, Jr. writing thirty some odd years ago saying the Albania was a nation composed mainly of rocks and serfs.

From what I know about Albania, there's some change, but not a whole lot... It's not to the point where I'd ever book a vacation there... Maybe in 30 years, but not in its current environment, even though parts of it are supposed to be as beautiful as other areas in the former Yugoslavia and Serbia/Montenegro.

5 posted on 04/19/2004 11:08:49 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
"Now, if they can only quell the criminal activiy occurring in neighboring Kosovo..."

This is propaganda only. It is being done so that the US will not look to closely at the ties between the Albanian govt and criminal activity in neighboring Kosovo....

They kiss up to the US State Department and in return their involvement with KLA and weapons smuggling are ignored. Albania is a terrorist state. Their politicians are all corrupt. Albanian security forces are all in the employ of organized crime.
6 posted on 04/19/2004 12:21:42 PM PDT by monday
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To: NYC Republican
Old, but good

Why Albania Joined the "Coalition of the Willing"


By Ambassador Shaban Murati for Southeast European Times - 14/04/03


The foreign policy of Albania after World War II has had few historic moments when the principles of international relations conformed to its state and national interests so clearly as in the case of the Iraq crisis.The decision to join the international coalition led by the United States against the regime of Saddam Hussein was the result of a wide political and public consensus. In a rare display of unity, the Albanian Parliament unanimously voted on 3 March for a resolution to place airspace, ports and land bases at the disposition of the Coalition of the Willing. When parliament voted on 13 March to send an Albanian military unit to join the coalition in the Persian Gulf, there was only one abstention and no one voted against. Such unanimity in a democratic and pluralistic society is a clear indication of Albania's complete commitment to the cause.

The cohesion of the government, opposition and the majority of the Albanian public on the Iraqi crisis illustrates the desire for Albanian foreign policy and diplomacy to play a greater role in contributing to peace and stability. Albania joined the Coalition of the Willing because it had clear political and diplomatic ideas, platforms and visions regarding the meaning and worldwide effect of the new phase of the global war against international terrorism.

First, Albania has linked its participation in the Coalition of the Willing with democracy and with the democratisation of international relations. Its choice between Iraq's oppressive, terrorist regime and the United States conforms to the principles and the western civilised values that contributed to the overthrow of Albania's communist totalitarian regime 11 years ago. Albanian President Alfred Moisiu, in his 25 March speech at the Council of National Security, stressed that in the opinion of Albanians "the war in Iraq is a war against the war, a war for peace, for a world many times more secured and with more freedom. We do not consider this war as a war of the United States and United Kingdom, but as a war for protecting the peace and the values of civilised humanity from the threat of international terrorism."

It is encouraging that Albania, having taking its position on the Iraqi crisis, is in step with the majority of the Eastern European states that also emerged from the communist dictatorship. The ugly experience of long years of oppression has guided Albanian foreign policy towards being more sensible and more sympathetic in the fight for human rights and against dictators such as Saddam Hussein. Albanian Foreign Minister Ilir Meta, together with nine foreign ministers of the countries of the Vilnius Group, signed the declaration supporting the stance of the coalition on the crisis in Iraq. The presidents of Albania, Croatia and Macedonia joined in a common declaration on 12 February that supports the coalition.


In a letter to Albanian Prime Minister Fatos Nano US President George W Bush stated that the United States highly regarded Albania's willingness to support the coalition and its role as an important contributor to regional and global security. President Alfred Moisiu (right), along with the presidents of Albania, Croatia and Macedonia joined in a common declaration on 12 February that supports the coalition. [AFP]

One of 45 states that have joined the Coalition of the Willing, Albania was not led by economic interests in arriving at its position on Iraq, and it has no interest in that country's oil. It was led by democratic principles and it even may be said that one of the motives in supporting the international war against Saddam Hussein has been an idealistic feeling that is nourished by those principles.

Participation in the US-led coalition presents to Albania a new turning point with regard to international affairs and the equality of states in the world family. Through this participation, Albania is understanding and discovering a more effective and more concrete role that small states can play in international relations and global security.This is an important element of the real democratisation of the relations between states and of the need to consider more and more the voice of the smaller countries in international problems, institutions and organisations. In a letter to Albanian Prime Minister Fatos Nano on 19 March, President George W Bush stated that the United States highly regarded Albania's willingness to support the coalition and its role as an important contributor to regional and global security.

In today's world, the interdependence of individual, regional and global security increases with every passing day. The actions of the international coalition in Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq during the entire post-Cold War period are three examples of positive turning points in establishing new international democratic relations, where the principle of aid and humanitarian intervention takes priority over the formality of the imposed legitimacy of terrorist and dictatorial regimes. Albania strongly supported NATO's intervention against the regime of Slobodan Milosevic in Kosovo. That relationship was further strengthened when Albania supported the intervention of the international coalition against the terrorist regime of the Taliban in Afghanistan by sending a unit of its military forces. In Tirana, the Albanian soldiers in Afghanistan and in Iraq are considered soldiers of peace and democracy.

In its stance on the Iraq crisis, Albanian diplomacy remains loyal to an old and traditional code of the Albanian nation -- the code of loyalty and gratitude. This has to do with the deep and popular gratitude that Albanians feel toward the United States as a country that helped Albania gain independence at the beginning of the last century and as a country that saved the people of Kosovo from genocide and ethnic cleansing. Historic memory plays its role in the motivation of diplomacy and of the foreign policy of each state, and it is not by chance that all the Albanian leaders have forcefully emphasised it these days.This gratitude towards the United States is a characteristic not only of the Albanians in Albania, but also of Albanians in Kosovo, Macedonia, Montenegro and wherever they live. Official ceremonies were held in Tirana and Pristina on 24 March on the fourth anniversary of NATO's action against the Milosevic regime.

That Albania joined the Coalition of the Willing was a choice that stemmed from the independent action of Albanian diplomacy.Supporters and opponents of the war in Iraq share the idea that international relations from now on will not be the same as before. However, Albania is convinced that such developments will lead to a world with more freedom, more security and more democracy.
7 posted on 04/19/2004 1:02:49 PM PDT by GeraldP (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: NYC Republican
An Albanian commando stands guard in front of the American flag at Mother Teresa airport before he leaves for Iraq to participate in the U.S. led coalition, Tirana, April 12, 2004. Albania, a staunch ally of the United States is sending a 70-strong brigade of its elite commando troops in Iraq.        REUTERS/Arben Celi
Mon Apr 12,10:30 AM ET
Reuters

An Albanian commando stands guard in front of the American flag at Mother Teresa airport before he leaves for Iraq (news - web sites) to participate in the U.S. led coalition, Tirana, April 12, 2004. Albania, a staunch ally of the United States is sending a 70-strong brigade of its elite commando troops in Iraq. REUTERS/Arben Celi





8 posted on 04/19/2004 1:17:45 PM PDT by GeraldP (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: monday
They kiss up to the US State Department and in return their involvement with KLA and weapons smuggling are ignored. Albania is a terrorist state. Their politicians are all corrupt. Albanian security forces are all in the employ of organized crime.

That's ridiculous, you're the one pushing propoganda... It never was, and is not, a terrorist state... Corrupt? Absolutely. Terrorist, that's insane.

9 posted on 04/19/2004 2:16:25 PM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: GeraldP
Thanks Gerald.
10 posted on 04/19/2004 2:17:18 PM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
"It never was, and is not, a terrorist state... Corrupt? Absolutely. Terrorist, that's insane."

Do you deny that the KLA is a terrorist organization? Do you also deny that the KLA and its successors, Albanian Kosovo politicians and drug lords, have close ties with Albanian politicians? Do you deny that Albanians living in Kosovo and Macedonia get virtually all of their arms from sources in Albania?

Albania is as much a terrorist state as Afghanistan was before the US invasion. Just because they kiss US ass, don't let that fool you.
11 posted on 04/19/2004 3:14:14 PM PDT by monday
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To: GeraldP
70 STRONG BRIGADE?????
A Company is 130 men.
12 posted on 04/19/2004 3:22:38 PM PDT by airborne (lead by example)
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To: airborne
I suppose the size of the "brigade" might be in proportion to the size of the nation (Albania has a population of a little over 3 million).

Also maybe the reporter didn't know what he was talking about, as shocking as that sounds.
13 posted on 04/19/2004 3:28:43 PM PDT by GeraldP (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: NYC Republican
He's right--
14 posted on 04/19/2004 3:31:04 PM PDT by Mamzelle (for a post-Neo conservatism)
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To: monday; NYC Republican
I also agree with, monday.
15 posted on 04/19/2004 4:04:44 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: monday
Do you deny that the KLA is a terrorist organization? Do you also deny that the KLA and its successors, Albanian Kosovo politicians and drug lords, have close ties with Albanian politicians? Do you deny that Albanians living in Kosovo and Macedonia get virtually all of their arms from sources in Albania?

Of course I deny they're a terrorist organization. They are a criminal organization- huge difference, if it wasn't for the Serb mistreatment, they'd be nothing but a gang of thugs. In addition, Albania is NOT Kosovo -the topic here was Albania, NOT Kosovo.

16 posted on 04/19/2004 6:58:05 PM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: monday
Is this your regular screenname or do you have one for every day of the week?

>>>Just because they kiss US ass, don't let that fool you.

If everyone else on this planet looked at the US from the same perspective as the overwhelming majority of Albanians, "antiAmericanism" would have as much meaning as as "non-alcoholic beer".
17 posted on 04/19/2004 7:29:19 PM PDT by GeraldP (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: NYC Republican
You think they'll do anything to stop the terrorist KLA?

The only way peace will return to Kosovo is when the Serb Army comes back (yeah, "when" they come back, not "if").
18 posted on 04/25/2004 2:06:23 PM PDT by FormerLib (Feja e shqiptarit eshte terorizm.)
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To: FormerLib; cardinal4
If the Albanian Army starts loading up their ox-carts, with the wooden wheels, they just might get to Iraq before it is pacified. Provided, of course, that Turkey allows them to transit that country. Until about ten years ago, Albania and North Korea were neck-and-neck for the most backward place on the planet.

In 1962, I was stationed in Brindisi, Italy. One week, two troopships loaded with Marines were transiting the Strait of Otranto; they were going to be allowed three days of liberty in Brindisi. The Albanian coastal artillery fired a few shots in the general area of this ships. Those Albanians will never know how close they came to being bombed up into the 16th Century. And it was some time before the port city of Brindisi recovered from their visit, and the slot machines at our little NCO club were never so full.

19 posted on 04/25/2004 3:21:40 PM PDT by Ax (Ever notice that we say "Judeo-Christian...." and never "Judeo-Christian-Islamic...?")
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To: FormerLib
The only solution, in my opinion, is to carve Kosovo... The north, by Mitrovica and the Trepka mines, would go to the Serbs, the rest of the land to the Albanians...

The Serbs don't have the stomach to deal with constant death and destruction -there's too little to be gained... As for Albania rooting out the KLA, probably not... They have little control over the criminal organization, and want as little to do with it as possible, I'd surmise.

20 posted on 04/25/2004 8:40:03 PM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
The only solution, in my opinion, is to carve Kosovo... The north, by Mitrovica and the Trepka mines, would go to the Serbs, the rest of the land to the Albanians...

So we are to reward the terrorist actions of the KLA by giving them a part of someone else's country? Sounds like a very bad idea to me.

The Serbs don't have the stomach to deal with constant death and destruction -there's too little to be gained...

Right, as evidenced by the way all partisan activity came to an end in Serb lands occupied by the Germans in WW2...NOT!

The Serbs will fight for their land to the very end. It is the KLA who will be forced to abandon Serbian land.

21 posted on 04/26/2004 6:49:17 AM PDT by FormerLib (Feja e shqiptarit eshte terorizm.)
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To: FormerLib
Right, as evidenced by the way all partisan activity came to an end in Serb lands occupied by the Germans in WW2...NOT

Are you really comparing the heroic Serb fighters to the fighters who ran from large chunks of Bosnia as soon as they faced an ARMED enemy, and the Serbs that ran away from the Krajina region? Come on... They don't have the heart. They have the weapons, but it takes more heart and perseverence. The people of Serbia don't have the appetite for it either.

Also, as you FAIL to point out, BOTH sides lay claim to the land. It's debateable as to who really has a right to it.

22 posted on 04/26/2004 7:23:38 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
Are you really comparing the heroic Serb fighters to the fighters who ran from large chunks of Bosnia as soon as they faced an ARMED enemy, and the Serbs that ran away from the Krajina region?

The Serbs that ran away were unarmed civilians or grossly outnumbered fighters.

Also, as you FAIL to point out, BOTH sides lay claim to the land. It's debateable as to who really has a right to it.

International law recognizes the Serbian ownership of Kosovo. Hell, ownership of the United States can be debatable if you want to go far enough down that road.

The facts are that the Albanians flooded the area via illegal immigration following the complete collapse of the Albanian economy (and the Ponzi-style retirement scheme). They have used terrorism to drive out the Serbs over a twenty-year period and then fooled the international community into helping them when the Serbs fought back. Much of this has significance for certain states in the Southwestern US.

Now that the international community has been forced to see their true nature via their recent pre-planned pogrom and destruction of irreplaceable Christian medieval treasures, this will not be the case again.

23 posted on 04/26/2004 7:40:37 AM PDT by FormerLib (Feja e shqiptarit eshte terorizm.)
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To: captain albala; Destro; Honorary Serb; RussianConservative; Constitution Day; Incorrigible; ...
The question has been raised: should the KLA be rewarded for terrorism via the partitioning of Kosovo?

A ping for some additional input.
24 posted on 04/26/2004 7:47:03 AM PDT by FormerLib (Feja e shqiptarit eshte terorizm.)
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To: NYC Republican
The only solution, in my opinion, is to carve Kosovo.

Good thing you are in NY, because based on the same facts, California should be carved as well. Give the southern half to Mexico.

25 posted on 04/26/2004 7:59:44 AM PDT by MarMema (next year in constantinople!)
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To: MarMema; FormerLib
Why don't you stick to the original topic- Albania- this is NOT a Kosovo thread.
26 posted on 04/26/2004 8:16:51 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: FormerLib
The question has been raised: should the KLA be rewarded for terrorism via the partitioning of Kosovo?

Talk about a leading and rhetorical question, crafting it to suit your whim. A push poll in the worst way... Nice of you to invite the radical pro-Milosevic apologists to comment...

Why don't you ask this on a Kosovo or Serb thread, not an Albania thread.

By the way, how many soldiers is Serbia sending to Iraq? How much support is Serbia providing of ANY kind, Answer - NONE!!!

27 posted on 04/26/2004 8:19:14 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican; Destro; Honorary Serb; RussianConservative; Constitution Day; Incorrigible; ...
The question has been raised: should the KLA be rewarded for terrorism via the partitioning of Kosovo?

Talk about a leading and rhetorical question, crafting it to suit your whim.

Since the KLA was identified as a terrorist organization and has used terrorism to advance their goals, the question is based in fact. Sorry if you don't like the facts.

Nice of you to invite the radical pro-Milosevic apologists to comment...

I'm sorry, I didn't get the memo designating you as the person who could dictate who could and could not participate in a thread.

By the way, the Milosevic stuff has gotten very tired. We are clearly in support of a democratized Serbia reclaiming the land within her recognized international borders. Milosevic is gone and good riddance! If it weren't for the KLA, the Serbs themselves would have gotten rid of Slobo even earlier.

Why don't you ask this on a Kosovo or Serb thread, not an Albania thread.

I'm sorry, I didn't get the memo designating you as the person who could dictate what could be said on a thread.

By the way, how many soldiers is Serbia sending to Iraq? How much support is Serbia providing of ANY kind, Answer - NONE!!!

There goes the lie-detector! Serbian support has come in the form of Serbian soldier currently operating in Afghanistan. Their professionalism has generated many excellent reports from the US units they are serving alongside currently.

28 posted on 04/26/2004 9:11:51 AM PDT by FormerLib (Feja e shqiptarit eshte terorizm.)
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To: NYC Republican
Then why did you mention your idea of carving Kosovo?
29 posted on 04/26/2004 9:44:35 AM PDT by MarMema (next year in constantinople!)
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To: MarMema
I ws asked a direct question... thought it was a one-off Q. Didn't think it would be hijacked into another (yawn) Serb-Kosovo thread.
30 posted on 04/26/2004 9:52:21 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
As for Albanian support to US action in Iraq... it's all BS, and we all know it.
Why?

"Albanian is nor water nor wine,
for money he'll do anything,
sell his mother,
and slay his father..."

19th century montenegro bishop, warrior and poet, Njegosh.

Now, this was just intro, not my argument.

Albanians are tools for all great powers, so that became their mentality.

In the 19th century, and few hundreds years before, they were using turkish system to drive out serbs from kosovo, with more then 70% of them converting to islam. In start 0f 20th century, they were used bu austria to prevent serbian exit to warm adriatic sea, thus preventing austria to expand it's influence to south. In WW1, they were using situation to fight serbs whitdrawing infront of bulgarians, austrians, and germans. During WW2, albanians formed "great albania'" (what they want now again), by expulsion of serbs from kosovo, under italian and then german protection. When yugoslavian partizans won over, they entered albania, helping albanian partizans establish system of government. In 1948, albania went over to Stalin against Yugoslavia, and eventualy they accepted some Maoist positions in their policy. Albania was for 50 years land of bunkers, with one national radio. Noone was getting in or out for up the end of 1980's. After fall of communism, they act in the same manner, looking for a boss. They are still highly criminalized society, without rule of law,with mafia operating founded on clan organisation. Linked with islamist countries, if some gain is on sight. hauling USA, if US would support them. No principles, no ideology, on ideas, just pure material gains. So, Americans should be aware that, in order to have such "friends" as albanians, US have to remain very powerful, in the contrary, Albanians will find another boss.
That's who Albanians are. And that's their idea od "partnership".

p.s. As for Kosovo, we have to have 1244 UN SC resolution fulfiled before any further negotiations could take place. Serbian refugees back, protected in serbian enclaves by serbian police. Then peace talks.



31 posted on 04/26/2004 10:43:14 AM PDT by captain albala (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem!)
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To: FormerLib
I don't see why we should attack the Albanians on everything, especially when it's not anti-Serb. I'm just glad they will be far away from Serbs.

These people have a right to have some pride in themselves and their accomplishments, as long as they aren't used to promote a racist agenda.

32 posted on 04/26/2004 10:52:56 AM PDT by joan
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To: NYC Republican
The Iraqis better watch their poppy fields. Most likely they will be harvesting them free gratis for resale to Eurowienes and American drug addicts. Since muslims find it very offensive to fire upon muslims, I wonder where the Albanians will be directing their fire.
33 posted on 04/26/2004 12:06:48 PM PDT by brydic1
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To: brydic1; FormerLib
The point is in albanian motives to do this. If they're realy so much in war on terror and peace, and democracy, they wouldn't be cooperating with people linked with Al-Qaeda in Kuks, Tropia, and few other camps in northern Albania. At least that's what they were doing before 1999.

Their motives are just to suck up to US, in order to protect their narko-business and promote greater albania.
34 posted on 04/26/2004 4:04:55 PM PDT by captain albala (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem!)
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To: FormerLib; MarMema; NYC Republican; RussianConservative; DTA; captain albala; Nennsy
The question has been raised: should the KLA be rewarded for terrorism via the partitioning of Kosovo?

NEVER!!!!

Of course, the Kosovo Shiptars want ALL of Kosovo (as amply shown by their March pogrom). And if they want to follw the classic program for "Greater Albania", they not only want "fusion" of "Kosova" (and West Macedonia) with what is now Albania, but to rule ALL of "Greater Albania" from Pristina!!!! So the other Albanians (especially the Orthodox Christian Tosks in the South) better BEWARE, or else their Paleolithic savage KLA cousins will be running amok all over them!!!!

As for us Americans, we do not need Albanian troops in Iraq at all!!! (That is, unless some of us want to convice ourselves that the "coalition of the willing" is one very feeble member bigger than it is.) If we want more (non-Iraqi) muslim allies among coaltion troops in Iraq, there are much better candidates, like some of the more reliable (i.e., non-Saudi) Gulf Arabs. After all, they and the Iraqis will have to live together in the same neighborhood after the Americans are gone.

And we have already met a few Albanians (and "Bosnian" muslims) in Afghanistan. They were on the OTHER SIDE, the side of bin Laden and the Taliban !!!! For all we know, there are Albanian jihadis in Iraq, too. (It is known that a major staging area for mujehadin attacking us in Iraq is muslim "Bosnia")

35 posted on 04/26/2004 8:43:48 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Christ is risen!)
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To: Honorary Serb
Wow, more lies and propoganda from Honorary Serb... What a shock!
36 posted on 04/26/2004 8:57:45 PM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: Honorary Serb
Indeed He is risen. Good post.
37 posted on 04/26/2004 10:18:07 PM PDT by MarMema (next year in constantinople!)
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To: NYC Republican
After what the Spanish pulled behind and in front of us in Iraq, dealing with terrorists, pulling out (early), I don't trust anyone else in their to jeopardize American lives.

If you want something done right...
38 posted on 04/26/2004 10:20:32 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (FREE 3D On-line Golf Game - Independent Reseller of the Week: http://egolfinternational.com/wig)
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To: joan
Albanians run a large percentage of heroin through Europe.
Both Greece and Italy complain about them. They also run a terrific slave trade route through Kosovo now.
Albanians have given themselves a bad name in Europe. It seems like the bulk of them are crime-prone and brutal. Post something good from Albania.
39 posted on 04/26/2004 10:21:12 PM PDT by MarMema (next year in constantinople!)
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To: Honorary Serb
Don't get me started about the muslim affliction of terror, terror and more terror in the Balkans.

It is a POCK on America what happened there...

MAJOR trade in drugs, men & women, arms for terrorists, etc. ALL flowing THROUGH the Balkans region and IN PARTICULAR, the MUSLIM SCUM in Albania.
40 posted on 04/26/2004 10:24:51 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (FREE 3D On-line Golf Game - Independent Reseller of the Week: http://egolfinternational.com/wig)
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To: MarMema
Wow. And I didn't even see your post...
41 posted on 04/26/2004 10:25:30 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (FREE 3D On-line Golf Game - Independent Reseller of the Week: http://egolfinternational.com/wig)
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To: ApesForEvolution
From just a few weeks ago...

DRUG TRAFFICKING FROM ALBANIA DISCOVERED BY POLICE (AGI) – Brindisi, April 6 – Brindisi tax police and police discovered a huge drug trafficking from Albania. Traffickers had also links with the Netherlands and Northern Italy. Police has intercepted about 22 kilos of heroin and cocaine starting from August. Last Saturday five Albanians were arrested near Lecce with about 10 kilos of heroin. Investigators think they have discovered a drug trafficking starting from Albania that passes through Puglia and is directed to Northern Italy (Milan and Liguria) and to the Netherlands.

42 posted on 04/26/2004 10:29:23 PM PDT by MarMema (next year in constantinople!)
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To: ApesForEvolution
You could probably eliminate 90% of European crime by nuking Albania.
43 posted on 04/26/2004 10:31:06 PM PDT by judywillow
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To: MarMema; GeraldP; NYRepublican
Perhaps instead of dividing Kosovo, Albania should be divided along the Gheg and Tosk fault line in order to permanently stabilize the Balkans by 2016.

1. Northern Epirus become crime free and prosperous zone capable to cooperate with Greece, due to large nuber of Ethnic Greeks who live in Albania. Also, Christian Albanians will escape the terror of Berisha Islamonazis from Northern Albania and Kosovo. Business and tourism would boom, easilly to $10000 per capita. Albanian capital from abroad would be safe to invest there.

2. Once the evil is contained in Northern ALbania, it becomes easier to menage.

3. Partition of Kosovo to 2 NATO zones offer Albanians an option, to migrate to lawless Islamonazi infested North Albania, or remain in NATO controlled Southern Kosovo.

Metochia and Northern Kosovo remain under NATO supervision, but with 250,000 Serbs returning home. It opens a market and revitalizes economy.

Albanians will have the choice, to live as civilized people in Soutern Kosovo, Northern Kosovo, migrate to Southern Albania or behave as savages and migrate to Norther Albania.

Savages would get Norther Albania, guarded by NATO FROM THE OUTSIDE.

In 2016, Southern ALbania, Kosovo and Serbia join the EU together.

Northern Albania remains permanently out. Until the Kanun of Lek finish them all for good.

Such plan would generate prosperity and billions of profit and avert the loss of human lives, except among islamonazi thugs and terrorists.

It would be win-win-win solution, win for Greece, win for Orthodox and RC Albanians, win for Serbs.

For Berisha and his scum, well, they finally have to pay bill.

44 posted on 04/26/2004 10:57:42 PM PDT by DTA (feja e shqiptarit eshte terorizm)
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To: judywillow
You know. It REALLY is a significant screw-up to deal with these people thinking they're on your side, they'll take your back as you take theirs, etc.
45 posted on 04/26/2004 11:08:08 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (FREE 3D On-line Golf Game - Independent Reseller of the Week: http://egolfinternational.com/wig)
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To: MarMema
Yes, and those seizures were largely symbolic for the edification of others. The amounts passing through that are never touched, because THEY ARE PROTECTED BY THE ALBANIAN GOVERNMENT AMONG OTHERS, are staggering.
46 posted on 04/26/2004 11:10:25 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (FREE 3D On-line Golf Game - Independent Reseller of the Week: http://egolfinternational.com/wig)
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To: DTA
Did you come up with that all by yourself? That's pretty interesting.
47 posted on 04/26/2004 11:12:39 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (FREE 3D On-line Golf Game - Independent Reseller of the Week: http://egolfinternational.com/wig)
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To: ApesForEvolution
Yes I have, with the input from friends and foes on FR.
48 posted on 04/26/2004 11:19:41 PM PDT by DTA (you ain't seen nothing yet.)
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To: NYC Republican; monday; Destro; getgoing; captain albala; FormerLib; ma bell; joan; ...
Serb mistreatment? Albanians in Kosovo had more rights than any minority in any country! Attack on State forces is not terrorism? KLA had uniforms, guns, and in 2001 was attacking police and military in Serbia proper! if you remember they were on USA list as terrorist organization in 98! When they became TMK or KPC under UNMIK, they blowed up a bridge in Northern Kosovo and one of them died. So please, don't speak about Serbian mistreatment, when they continued doing the same thing before KFOR and UN. In last March violence do you know what role of KPC was? Since they are in charge to respond during emergences (earthquake, floods, fire), they were putting fire "out" with gasoline! They were showing up with "water" tanks before Serbian houses, and instead of using water they were using gasoline!
They are TERRORISTS!!!!
Trained in camps in Albania by Osama's people. I know that you are aware that Osama himself has visited Albania in 97.
Hmmm, I wonder why?
49 posted on 04/27/2004 1:15:52 AM PDT by Nennsy
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To: Nennsy
Man, you folks are so well-versed in lies and propoganda. Slobo would be so proud of you. Total BS, the whole post is a lying rant.
50 posted on 04/27/2004 5:09:23 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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