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Document: Oklahoma City Bombing Was Taped
AP via Yahoo! ^ | April 19, 2004 | John Solomon

Posted on 04/19/2004 1:23:06 PM PDT by RippleFire

WASHINGTON - A Secret Service document written shortly after the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing described security video footage of the attack and witness testimony that suggested Timothy McVeigh (news - web sites) may have had accomplices at the scene.

"Security video tapes from the area show the truck detonation 3 minutes and 6 seconds after the suspects exited the truck," the Secret Service reported six days after the attack on a log of agents' activities and evidence in the Oklahoma investigation.

The government has insisted McVeigh drove the truck himself and that it never had any video of the bombing or the scene of the Alfred P. Murrah building in the minutes before the April 19, 1995, explosion.

Several investigators and prosecutors who worked the case told The Associated Press they had never seen video footage like that described in the Secret Service log.

The document, if accurate, is either significant evidence kept secret for nine years or a misconstrued recounting of investigative leads that were often passed by word of mouth during the hectic early days of the case, they said.

"I did not see it," said Danny Defenbaugh, the retired FBI (news - web sites) agent who ran the Oklahoma City probe. "If it shows what it says, then it would be significant."

Secret Service spokesman Charles Bopp declined to discuss the video footage reference, saying it would be addressed by witnesses later this week at the capital murder trial of McVeigh co-defendant Terry Nichols. "It is anticipated Secret Service employees will testify in court concerning these matters," he said.

Other documents obtained by AP show the Secret Service in late 1995 gave prosecutors several computer disks of enhanced digital photographs of the Murrah building, intelligence files on several subjects in the investigation and a file detailing an internal affairs inquiry concerning an agent who reconstructed key phone evidence against McVeigh.

"These abstract sheets are sensitive documents which we have protected from disclosure in the past," said a Secret Service letter that recounted discussions in late 1995 with federal prosecutors on what evidence would be turned over to defense lawyers.

Lawyers for Nichols say they have never been given the security video, photo disks or internal investigative file referenced in the documents.

The trial judge has threatened to dismiss the death penalty case if evidence was withheld. McVeigh was executed in 2001 on a separate federal conviction. Nichols was sentenced to life in prison on federal charges before being tried by the state this year.

The government has maintained for years that McVeigh parked the Ryder rental truck carrying a massive fertilizer bomb outside the Murrah building and left alone in a getaway car he parked around the corner. The bombing killed more than 160 people.

The only video prosecutors introduced at trial showed the Ryder truck without any visible passengers as it passed a security camera inside a high-rise apartment building a block away from the Murrah building.

But the Secret Service log reported on April 24 and April 25, 1995, that there was security footage showing the Ryder truck pulling up to the Murrah building. The log does not say where such video came from or who possessed it.

A log entry on April 25 states that the security footage allowed agents to determine the time that elapsed between suspects leaving the truck and the explosion.

An entry a day earlier on the same log reported that the security video was consistent with a witness' account that he saw McVeigh's getaway car in the lead before a woman guided the truck to its final parking spot in front of the Murrah building.

"A witness to the explosion named Grossman claimed to have seen a pale yellow Mercury car with a Ryder truck behind it pulling up to the federal building," the log said. The witness "further claimed to have seen a woman on the corner waving to the truck."

A Secret Service agent named McNally "noted that this fact is significant due to the fact that the security video shows the Ryder truck pulling up to the Federal Building and then pausing (7 to 10 seconds) before resuming into the slot in front of the building," the log said. "It is speculated that the woman was signaling the truck when a slot became available."

Defenbaugh said the FBI had talked to several witnesses suggesting two people had left the truck, but prosecutors never introduced the scenario at trial because it couldn't be corroborated. That's why a new security video would be significant, he said.

"It would have taken the investigation in a very specific direction," Defenbaugh said. "Rather than having to go down an eight-lane highway during rush hour, we would have gone down a faster path with just two or four lanes."

Defenbaugh said the FBI kept a log similar to the Secret Service document inside the Oklahoma City investigation command center that might help solve the mystery of the video. Justice officials declined to discuss documents, citing the ongoing Nichols' trial.

In addition to the witness mentioned in the Secret Service document, a woman working in Murrah's Social Security (news - web sites) office who was rescued from the rubble and a driver outside the building both reported to the FBI seeing two men leave the truck, according to government documents.

The Secret Service (news - web sites) log contained other information about the case — including that McVeigh made 30 calls to an Illinois gun dealer in the months before the attacks to seek dynamite and that the gun dealer subsequently failed a lie detector test. The Secret Service lost six employees in McVeigh's bombing, the single largest loss in agency history.

Nichols' attorneys last week asked the judge to dismiss the case on grounds the government withheld evidence, including the security video footage.

New documents obtained by AP show the Secret Service provided prosecutors other evidence that may not have been provided to defense lawyers, including a file showing the Secret Service agent who reconstructed crucial phone evidence against McVeigh was subjected to an internal affairs investigation and eventually cleared for her conduct in the case.

FBI officials say that file details allegations the agent wrongly collected grand jury-subpoenaed phone information about McVeigh's calls without FBI knowledge, and kept it for weeks while she produced analysis that helped the investigation.

The internal investigation caused complications for prosecutors. They decided it tainted the agent as a witness and they chose instead to hire an outside expert to re-do the phone analysis for trial, officials said.

Bopp said the Secret Service did nothing wrong.

"The Secret Service worked cooperatively with the FBI and other federal state and local law enforcement throughout the investigation," Bopp said. "The expertise of the Secret Service on electronic crimes and telecommunications provided unique and timely information to the ongoing investigation."

On the Net:

The FBI: http://www.fbi.gov

The documents obtained by The Associated Press can be viewed at http://wid.ap.org/documents/okc/okcdoc2.pdf


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To: TomGuy
I will always distinctly remember hearing the first live local media reports from OKC on the radio. The reporters were giving out information from the medics and police at the scene for maybe twenty minutes.

Then suddenly it went totally national coverage. That is not unusual, no, but not one single local reporter was contacted for a live info from the scene. I always thought that strange. Someone shut the media down and fast.
21 posted on 04/19/2004 1:46:23 PM PDT by Conservababe
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bump
22 posted on 04/19/2004 1:46:36 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Vietnam veteran against John Kerry, proud to be a "crook" and a "liar.")
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To: gwjack
As a person who sustained property damage in the bombing, and came within four minutes of being in the building nine years ago today, I will be asking my representatives, senators, and president to begin a special commission to investigate the OKC cover up. Please join me by contacting yours.

The list of withheld evidence was 89 pages by itself. The evidence should be a treasure trove of blame on the WH and efforts to short-circuit the investigation.

My apologies if I sound bitter, but I am.

Gwjack

23 posted on 04/19/2004 1:47:36 PM PDT by gwjack (Will Rogers never met the current democrats.)
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To: RippleFire
There's a whole lot more to the OKC story than the "mainstream" press has cared to investigate.

For instance...John Doe #2 was identifed as an Iraqi, a former member of the Republican Guard, and later of the Mukhabarat.

Visit Jayna Davis' website and be astounded.

24 posted on 04/19/2004 1:49:00 PM PDT by TonyInOhio ("Man cannot be separated from God, nor politics from morality." JPII)
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To: RippleFire
The trial judge has threatened to dismiss the death penalty case if evidence was withheld. McVeigh was executed in 2001...

I don't think even the Ninth Circuit could rescind McVeigh's execution.

25 posted on 04/19/2004 1:50:06 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Thank the dumbass RATs for putting Gorelick on the Commission. That was the biggest screw-up they have had in a long time even if the RATmedia is suppressing the memo's implications and relevence.

No screw up. She was put there by design.

Posted in another thread:


Even Clinton staffers know the truth

But according to former Clinton staffers, it's doubtful Gorelick will budge. "She's on that commission for a reason, and it isn't because of her brilliant legal mind," says a former DNC and Clinton White House staffer. "She's there to make sure Bush and his team look as bad as possible and to protect the Clintons and Reno."

26 posted on 04/19/2004 1:50:43 PM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: RippleFire
TImothy McVeigh, an innocent murdered
27 posted on 04/19/2004 1:52:02 PM PDT by Truth666
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To: gwjack
For an unvarnished story about the current state of the trial you will want to visit

http://www.mccurtain.com/articles/2004/04/14/top_story/top001.txt

JD Cash is the print counterpart of Jayna Davis. He and John Solomon are writing a book about the event. Solomon is an AP writer from the original source link.

Gwjack

28 posted on 04/19/2004 1:53:29 PM PDT by gwjack (Will Rogers never met the current democrats.)
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To: RippleFire
I wonder if there's any CIA people out there who were prevented from getting involved in this because of the the "Wall".
29 posted on 04/19/2004 1:53:36 PM PDT by what's up
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To: RippleFire
Sure, if the press bothers to get on this for more than two minutes, but I doubt it. The government and the press will bury this.
30 posted on 04/19/2004 1:57:02 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: Wallaby; Nita Nupress
But the Secret Service log reported on April 24 and April 25, 1995, that there was security footage showing the Ryder truck pulling up to the Murrah building. The log does not say where such video came from or who possessed it.

I wonder if this has anything to do with a certain New Mexico security company run by Sikhs.

31 posted on 04/19/2004 1:57:02 PM PDT by independentmind
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To: TomGuy
OMG! I just read this article. How in the world can she be on this commission!! Why aren't the regular media screaming to high heaven about this?

I'm screaming mad I'll tell you!!!!
32 posted on 04/19/2004 1:58:23 PM PDT by sissyjane (You're either with us or against us.)
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To: RippleFire
Well, that'll stir things up.

Maybe McVeigh will get a new trial....Oh, nevermind...

33 posted on 04/19/2004 1:59:40 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: RippleFire
"Everybody lies about sex and the bombing of Federal Buildings and the shooting down of commercial airliners!" Thank You James Carville/BJ/Gorelick!

Pray for W and The Truth

34 posted on 04/19/2004 2:00:04 PM PDT by bray (Yaaaawn Tax & Carry, just a little guy Billionaire!!)
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To: Truth666
I certainly don't think he was innocent, but for sure had more help than has been proven in court.
35 posted on 04/19/2004 2:00:24 PM PDT by sissyjane (You're either with us or against us.)
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To: RippleFire
Bttt.
36 posted on 04/19/2004 2:02:03 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: RippleFire
"The Secret Service worked cooperatively with the FBI and other federal state and local law enforcement throughout the investigation," Bopp said.

This means "Hey, don't look at us, we just provided our information, somebody else (FBI) must have made the adjustments."

37 posted on 04/19/2004 2:02:40 PM PDT by Hatteras
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To: sissyjane; TomGuy
>>...OMG! I just read this article. How in the world can she be on this commission!! ...<<

Did you know that the law firm she's in business with is representing the Saudi guy that 9/11 families are suing?

That alone should disqualify her from sitting on the commission.

38 posted on 04/19/2004 2:02:58 PM PDT by FReepaholic (War On Terror: If not us, who? If not now, when?)
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To: RippleFire; nuconvert; Marie Antoinette; randog; lilylangtree; Diogenesis; PhiKapMom; teletech; ...
I'm still trying to figure *this* one out -- it appeared in the newspapers in 1995, then quickly faded away with no followup:
"Third suspect identified in Oklahoma bombing"
By Dan Thomasson and Peter Copeland
Scripps Howard News Service
[Printed on page A1 of the May 12, 1995 _Houston Chronicle_]

A third man wanted in the Oklahoma City bombing has been identified as Steven Colbern, a fugitive from a previous firearms charge.

Colbern, aged 35 or 36, is described as 6-foot-1 and 195 pounds with green eyes, which roughly matches the description of John Doe II.

Law enforcement sources said Thrusday night that Colbern was identified through his brown pickup. It was captured, by chance on video taken from the state trooper's car that stopped Timothy McVeigh for speeding only 80 minutes after the blast.

"That trooper had a hell of a day," a federal investigator said.

An automatic camera in the car of Trooper Charles Hanger was taping the arrest of McVeigh. In the background was the image of the pickup, which also pulled over while McVeigh was being questioned.

Sophisticated enhancement techniques were used to improve the video until investigators could read the license plate number.

The truck, registered to Colbern, contained traces of ammonium nitrate, believed to be the main explosive ingredient used in the bombing.

Colbern's age is uncertain. His address is unknown, but he shared a mail drop with McVeigh in Kingman, Ariz., sources said. The truck was found parked outside an abandoned mobile home in Kingman.

Colbern already was wanted on a federal firearms charge, officials said. He was arrested last summer in San Bernadino, Calif., for carrying a gun with a silencer. He was allowed to post bail but skipped.

[The rest of the article deals with McVeigh and Nichols, and makes no further mention of Colbern.]


39 posted on 04/19/2004 2:03:45 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Prince Charles
Bttt.
40 posted on 04/19/2004 2:04:08 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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