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Up Against Fanaticism
The News Herald, Panama City ^ | April 18, 2004 | Phil Lucas

Posted on 04/20/2004 1:06:22 PM PDT by An Old Man

From: MVB--- Below is an editorial from Sunday's edition of a Florida newspaper, The News Herald, Panama City. Someone who reads this paper thought that the editorial was worth a wider distribution and retyped it to send out over the Internet. Phil Lucas, the paper's Executive Editor, wrote this article for Sunday April 4, 2004. The News Herald web site is found at http://www.newsherald.com/

Up Against Fanaticism Commentary: Up against fanaticism Sunday, April 4, 2004 By Phil Lucas, Executive Editor plucas@pcnh.com If straight talk of savagery offends you, if you believe in ethnic and gender diversity but not diversity of thought or if you think there is an acceptable gray area between good and evil, then turn to the funny pages, and take the children, too.

This piece is not for you.

We published pictures Thursday of burnt American corpses hanging from an Iraqi bridge behind a mob of grinning Muslims.

Some readers didn’t like it.

Mothers said it frightened their children. A woman who works with Muslim physicians thought it might offend or endanger them.

Well, we sure don’t want to frighten, offend or endanger anybody, do we? That’s just too much diversity to handle. I mean, somebody might get hurt.

We could fill the newspaper every morning with mobs of fanatical Muslims. They can’t get along with their neighbors on much of the planet: France, Chechnya, Bosnia, Indonesia, Spain, Morocco, India, Tunisia, Somalia, etc. etc. etc. Can anybody name three ongoing world conflicts in which Muslims are not involved? Today, where there is war, there are fanatical Muslims. We might quibble about who started what conflicts, but look at the sheer number of them.

One thing is sure. Muslim killers started the one we are in now when they slaughtered more than 3,000 people, including fellow Muslims, in New York City.

Madeleine Albright, the former secretary of state and feckless appeaser who helped get us into this mess, said last week Muslims still resented the Crusades. Well, Madame Albright, if Westerners were not such a forgiving people, we might resent them too.

Let’s recap the Crusades. Muslims invaded Europe, and when they reached sufficient numbers, they imposed their intolerant religion upon Westerners by force. Christian monarchs drove them back and took the battle to their homeland. The fight lasted a couple of centuries, and we bottled them up for 1,000 years.

Now, a millennium later, Muslims have expanded forth again. Ask France. Ask England. Ask Manhattan. Two-and-a-half years ago fanatical Muslims laid siege to us. We woke up to the obvious. Our president announced it would be a very long war, then took the battle to the Islamic homeland. Sound familiar?

Let’s consider the concept of a “long war.” Last time it was 200 years, give or take.

Anybody catch Lord of the Rings? You know, the good part, the part that wasn’t fiction, the part that drew us to the books and movies because it was the truest part: the titanic struggle between good and evil, between freedom and enslavement, between the individual and the state, between the celebration of life and the worshipping of death.

That’s the fight we are in, and it never ends. It just has peaks and valleys.

There may be a silent majority of peaceful Muslims –– some live here –– but that did not save 3,000 people in the World Trade Center, the millions gassed and butchered in the Middle East, the tens of thousands slain in Eastern Europe and Asia, the hundreds blown to bits in the West Bank and Spain, or the four Americans shot, burned and hung like sausage over the Euphrates as a fanatical minority of Muslims did the joyful dance of death.

Maybe we are so tolerant, we are so bent on “diversity,” we are so nonjudgmental, we are so wrapped up in our six-packs and ballgames that our brains have drained to our bulbous behinds. Maybe we’re so addled on Ritalin we wouldn’t know which end of a gun to hold. Maybe we need a new drug advertised on TV every three minutes, one that would help us grow a backbone.

It doesn’t take a Darwin to figure out that in this world the smartest, the fastest, the strongest, and the most committed always win. No exceptions.

Look at your spouse and children. Look at yourself in the mirror. Then look at the pictures from the paper last Thursday. You better look at them. Those are the people out to kill you.

Who do you think will win? You? Or them? Think you can take your ball and go home and they will leave you alone? Read a little history. Start with last week, last month, last year, and every other year back for half a century. Then go back a thousand years. Nobody hides from this fight.

Like it or not, that’s the way it was and that’s the way it is.

But many Americans don’t get it.

That’s why I made the case to my boss and fellow editors to publish those pictures.

If they jarred you off the sofa, if they offended you, if they scared your children and sent you into a rage at mass murderers or heartless editors, then I say, it’s a start.


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So what do you think of this religion of peace?

Semper Fi

1 posted on 04/20/2004 1:06:24 PM PDT by An Old Man
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To: An Old Man
Wow. That's the straightest talk I've seen in print yet.

Isn't Panama City is the home of Tyndall Air Force Base? And Eglin is just a little ways to the west.
2 posted on 04/20/2004 1:14:11 PM PDT by Montaignes Cat
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To: An Old Man
You are totally right on with this article.

Muslims are not now nor have they ever been anything less than the most intollerant people on the planet. Simple as that.
3 posted on 04/20/2004 1:17:41 PM PDT by Beckwith (Mullahs are the only preists on the planet teaching hate from the pulpit . . .)
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To: An Old Man
It doesn’t take a Darwin to figure out that in this world the smartest, the fastest, the strongest, and the most committed always win. No exceptions.

Poison will contradict that statement. - Tom

4 posted on 04/20/2004 1:19:14 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb republicans. - Capt. Tom)
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To: Montaignes Cat
Isn't Panama City is the home of Tyndall Air Force Base? And Eglin is just a little ways to the west.

Yep, Panama City is my hometown and I'am stationed at Eglin. The Florida Panhandle is conservative friendly


5 posted on 04/20/2004 1:19:20 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: An Old Man
That is an excellent article!
6 posted on 04/20/2004 1:19:35 PM PDT by mtnwmn
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To: Montaignes Cat
Wow. That's the straightest talk I've seen in print yet.

I agree, makes you jolt a bit, but strangely some of those sentiments are what my mind has been saying yet my mouth is too terrified of breaking the PC barrier. I live in Oregon, need I say more?

7 posted on 04/20/2004 1:21:11 PM PDT by momfirst
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To: An Old Man
Excellent piece and like a splash of cold water to those who do not see the religous butchery rampant upon the planet.

We could fill the newspaper every morning with mobs of fanatical Muslims.

Wouldn't want to scare the citizens by exposing them to the truth, would we.

8 posted on 04/20/2004 1:22:09 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: mtnwmn
"That is an excellent article!"

Indeed it is. This should be required reading in all of our public schools.

Semper Fi

9 posted on 04/20/2004 1:39:38 PM PDT by An Old Man (USMC 1956 1960)
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To: An Old Man
Can anybody name three ongoing world conflicts in which Muslims are not involved? Today, where there is war, there are fanatical Muslims. We might quibble about who started what conflicts, but look at the sheer number of them.

Europe is basically filled with Socialist liberals, and into abortion. Because baby killing is so common there, the Muslims are out breading them in great numbers. Europe's time is limited.

10 posted on 04/20/2004 1:47:39 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: An Old Man
BTTT
11 posted on 04/20/2004 1:50:20 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: concerned about politics
I read your tag line with great amusement! He says with a grin, having almost reached the pinnacle.
12 posted on 04/20/2004 2:01:19 PM PDT by An Old Man (USMC 1956 1960)
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To: An Old Man
-Islam, a Religion of Peace®? Some links...--
13 posted on 04/20/2004 2:21:09 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the TrackBall into the Sunset...)
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To: backhoe
Thanks for the links! Eeryone should read those.

Semper Fi

14 posted on 04/20/2004 2:25:33 PM PDT by An Old Man (USMC 1956 1960)
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To: An Old Man
Excellent, and I agree that it should be required reading by all citizens.


15 posted on 04/20/2004 2:27:54 PM PDT by Eighth Square
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To: Eighth Square; archy; RaceBannon; LindaSOG
Then, lets bring out the big Guns.

Semper Fi

16 posted on 04/20/2004 2:37:28 PM PDT by An Old Man (USMC 1956 1960)
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To: An Old Man
Hey now! Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think.

I like it!


A.K.A. Sleepy Brown

17 posted on 04/20/2004 3:22:27 PM PDT by rdb3 (Let others praise ancient times; I am glad I was born in these.)
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To: An Old Man
Thanks for looking- a "know the enemy" tip 'o the hat to you-
18 posted on 04/20/2004 3:28:24 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the TrackBall into the Sunset...)
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To: dennisw; Sabertooth; FITZ; yonif; Grampa Dave; An Old Man
Insane murder cult ping!
19 posted on 04/20/2004 3:48:35 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: third try; Hiskid
Ping!
20 posted on 04/20/2004 5:07:23 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: An Old Man
Bush and his war council should digest the facts of this article and then give up trying to impose democracy on Muslims who don't want it, don't understand it, don't appreciate it and which goes against Islam.

President Bush should not make our soldiers sacrifice their lives to bring democracy to Iraq. Bomb the hell out of the terrorists and then get the hell out of their countries.
21 posted on 04/20/2004 6:02:39 PM PDT by fatidic
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To: fatidic
"Bush and his war council"

Being a somewhat distant member of that war council, I must inquire. Exactly what is it that you wish us to do with the accumulation of Muslim carcasses we will be forced to dispose of if we follow your suggestions?

Semper Fi

22 posted on 04/20/2004 6:11:14 PM PDT by An Old Man (USMC 1956 1960)
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To: An Old Man
Agree! (1st Recon Bn, 1 Mar Div - 1955-1959)

Semper Fi!
23 posted on 04/20/2004 6:51:03 PM PDT by Eighth Square
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To: An Old Man
Great editorial.

I think that bin Laden drew a perfectly natural conclusion - kill enough people and the survivors will accommodate you. Certainly nothing in his previous experience with both Europeans and Americans disabused him of that notion. And it isn't just him.

It is, in my experience, a difficult thing for civilized, tolerant people to understand that there really are other people who want to kill them and won't be talked out of it. These cling to negotiation because its alternative, killing, offends their moral senses and is not, under normal circumstances, anything but a last-resort policy anyway. Morality has, for them, become so blurred by safety and luxury that they truly do believe that fighting back lowers one to the level of the attacker. Only the protected can afford that level of "broad-mindedness."

In truth, however, we have not forgotten which is the business end of the gun, or at least enough of us have not to make the difference. That may change. If it does, bin Laden will have been proven right. I hope it does not happen in my lifetime.

24 posted on 04/20/2004 7:07:32 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: An Old Man
bttt
25 posted on 04/20/2004 7:53:37 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: An Old Man
bttt
26 posted on 04/20/2004 10:09:31 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: An Old Man
"Our president announced it would be a very long war, then took the battle to the Islamic homeland. Sound familiar?

Let’s consider the concept of a “long war.” Last time it was 200 years, give or take. "

This "long war" is a fatal mindset we have. We don't have to have a long war. Saying it will be a long war is nonsense. We have the ability, the opportunity, and the responsibility to win this war quickly. The "longer" we drag this out the more time the enemy has to get WMDs into Iraq or the U.S.

Start issuing nuclear ultimatums before they are issued on US.
27 posted on 04/20/2004 10:19:22 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: An Old Man
Your question about disposal of "Muslim carcasses" seems weird to me. What don't you get about defending ourselves by killing those who are trying to kill us--even to taking the fight to them preemptively and then letting the dead bury the dead. I'm not advocating wiping Muslims off the face of the earth except in self-defense.

Bush seems like a sincere, though misguided man when he breaks his campaign promise against nation-building. Bring our troops home and let the Iraqi Muslims go back to killing each other and hit 'em hard if they come after us. We did them and the world a kindness by deposing of Saddam. Now let us look after our own interests and bring our troops home and spend our tax dollars here.

Bush is also misguided when he thinks he has the constitutional authority to nation-build selectively while ignoring the suffering of Christians in the Sudan, for example. Bush is not a wise man in the ways of the world or the ways of human nature. He also is not wise in the ways of God who does not force Himself, His truth, His freedom on the unwilling. If Bush was the American President, instead of President of the World, he would put American interests first. We need roads, we need improved infrastructure. Bush is very generous with other people's money, just like a liberal.
28 posted on 04/21/2004 6:44:05 AM PDT by fatidic
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To: fatidic
"Bush seems like a sincere, though misguided man when he breaks his campaign promise against nation-building. Bring our troops home and let the Iraqi Muslims go back to killing each other and hit 'em hard if they come after us. We did them and the world a kindness by deposing of Saddam. Now let us look after our own interests and bring our troops home and spend our tax dollars here."

You should expand on your reasoning skills. What you just typed here is so full of holes a terrorists with a truck bomb could drive thru it.
29 posted on 04/21/2004 10:46:52 AM PDT by Getsmart64 (LANTIRN - Designed to kill, maim, and destroy ....America's enemies...)
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To: Beckwith
"Muslims are not now nor have they ever been anything less than the most intollerant people on the planet. Simple as that."

That is indeed a fact. Islam is the most bigoted, intolerant, hateful and militant "religion" in history. Christianity had its brutal days, no doubt about it, but Islam is something else, something dark, something very dark.
30 posted on 04/22/2004 5:08:39 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: An Old Man
Great article, I missed your post and tried to repost. I'm giving it a MUST READ BUMP!
31 posted on 04/22/2004 9:19:09 AM PDT by Robbin
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To: An Old Man; SJackson; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; spectacularbid2003; Binyamin; ...
Great article! Seems not all newspaper editors are brainwashed in the false religion of multi-culturalism and relativism.


AMERICA AT WAR
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33 posted on 04/22/2004 4:23:43 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: An Old Man
Islam for Idiots:

Mohammed, The Mad Poet Quoted....

34 posted on 04/22/2004 4:27:23 PM PDT by PsyOp (All war presupposes human weakness, and seeks to exploit it. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: Salem
That's an A1, 1st class collection of links you have on your home page! Congratulations on a job well done.

Semper Fi

35 posted on 04/22/2004 4:48:34 PM PDT by An Old Man (USMC 1956 1960)
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"That's an A1, 1st class collection of links you have on your home page! Congratulations on a job well done."

Roger that, sir. A community effort reflective of the help and input of many different Americans. If we can't fight today in the Terror war Arena, we can still fight like hell in the Arena of the War of Ideas!

36 posted on 04/22/2004 6:26:23 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: An Old Man
"Anybody catch Lord of the Rings? You know the good part? The part that drew us to the books and movies because it was the truest part; the titanic struggle between good and evil, between freedom and enslavement, between the individual and the state, between the celebration of life and the worshiping of death.

That's the fight we are in and it never ends. It just has peaks and valleys

Wow! I was thinking something similar when I saw the pictures too. That these Saddamites and Islam fanatics are so insanely evil they are like something out of LOTR . It is total madness for the liberals to think they can be reasoned with. There is no doubt in my mind that if they ever had or ever will get Bio, chem, or nuke weapons they would not hesitate to use them.

Helloooo liberals, these fanatics don't care about their own children, they happily send them out to murder innocent people and blow themselves to bits. What makes you think you can trust them with your children's futures?

Excellent article.

37 posted on 04/22/2004 8:04:08 PM PDT by fly_so_free (Never under estimate the treachery of the democrat party-Save USA vote a dem out of office)
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To: An Old Man
Death to Political Correctness
38 posted on 04/22/2004 9:31:06 PM PDT by Mel Gibson (Suffer from Allergies, Asthma or Adversely Affected by Foul Air ? See "About Me")
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To: An Old Man
The U.S. should begin a very well publicized program of fallout shelter building. Congress would provide states with funding to build large public shelters and states would provide tax incentives for private citizens to build shelters in their back yards.

Private industry would be encouraged provide modern up-to-date designs incorporating the latest technology.

All this would not go unnoticed by foreign media and governments. The question would be, "Why is the U.S. building all these shelters?"

They could be for protection from terrorist bombs, the often mentioned "WMD" which it was feared Saddam would supply.

Or it could be protection from a nuclear Iran or a hostile China. Maybe fears of a nuclear Brazil or North Korea.

But the true reason is that the U.S. is preparing for the day the U.S. nukes the Islamics where they live. Sort of like the Vietnam scenario - calling down an airstrike in your own perimeter. Only this perimeter is Planet Earth.

39 posted on 04/23/2004 12:29:59 AM PDT by etcetera
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To: An Old Man
Islam is a deadly world-wide plague, and liberalism is the AIDS virus that thwarts our defense against it. Human civilization had better wake up and get as serious about its survival as the seventh-century savages are about our annihilation!
40 posted on 04/23/2004 12:43:28 AM PDT by broadsword (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
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To: Mel Gibson
Death to Political Correctness

Amen to that, my friend! If America hopes to survive, the first thing is to stop being so damned PC-whipped!
41 posted on 04/23/2004 12:45:23 AM PDT by broadsword (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
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To: fatidic
If Bush was the American President, instead of President of the World, he would put American interests first.

That is a very interesting observation. I think he thinks he is putting America's interests first, but his messianic zeal has blurred the lines.

42 posted on 04/23/2004 8:37:42 AM PDT by Tired_of_the_Lies
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To: An Old Man
Excellent! I want a guy like this editor next to me in the foxhole. He knows what the fight's about. He sees the big picture, and communicates it with clarity.
43 posted on 04/23/2004 12:17:50 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: momfirst
We need to JOLT more people. Terrorist will wipe out our very existence. I see very smart people put on blinders on. They don't want to see the AQ network and SH connection or refuse to understand. The don't want to remember all the other attacks that have been going on since 1979. They think its really made up somewhere in Texas. They don't take the threat seriously.
44 posted on 04/24/2004 6:57:46 AM PDT by Milligan
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To: fatidic
That's how fanaticism starts. They want religion to rule their affairs. They live in the dark ages. They want people to live in ignorance, fear, proverty and blame the Western World for all their problems. If we break this terrible monopoly and introduce a democracy...fanaticism will dissappear.
45 posted on 04/24/2004 7:07:17 AM PDT by Milligan
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To: fatidic
I don't think Bush is misguided. I really believe he sees the dangers ahead if we sit on our hands, pretend the problem will go away and the problem will just fix itself by letting the Iraqi's kill each other off. We shouldn't abandon what we started or let the UN take on this important commitment. We made inroads in Afgan. Iraq has been a hot bed of violence. You have terrorist and Saddam loyalist who are trying keep oppressive way of life. They want the Iraqi population to live like battered woman. I hope we have a enough sharpshooter to pick off the trouble makers. We need to stay and finish the job. Iraq has been a secular government since the '60's but it was a socialist one. They can adobt to a democratical system. If people have a chance to have a better life with higher education and having a better standard of living...I don't think they will resort to fanaticism ideals or brutal dictators.
46 posted on 04/24/2004 7:30:19 AM PDT by Milligan
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To: Milligan
Just keep believing Bush's propaganda and pretend that Muslims want democracy, and that the only "trouble makers in Iraq are the foreigners, etc. and years later after many more Americans have died and billions of tax dollars have been spent on Iraq's infrastructure to the harm of America's infrastructure you might regret projecting your idealism onto the barbarians as a basis of U.S. policy.
47 posted on 04/25/2004 5:36:37 AM PDT by fatidic
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To: fatidic
You sound like my spouse. Be careful who you hate or you will become like them.
48 posted on 04/25/2004 5:43:39 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: Milligan
I take offense at your insinuation that I hate rather than I think or I know or that I understand what Americans are up against from Islamic aggression/goals.
49 posted on 04/26/2004 3:34:30 PM PDT by fatidic
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To: An Old Man
Do you think that there would be anyone interested in doing a "Daily Muslim Report?" It would be interesting and the media scans FR frequently.... could change the news!
50 posted on 05/01/2004 6:25:32 PM PDT by mlmr (Significant or Trivial)
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