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Give us paper ballots
New York Daily News ^ | 04/21/04 | Zev Chafets

Posted on 04/21/2004 12:00:35 PM PDT by crusty codger

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To: Fast Ed97
Electronic ballots can be more easily tampered with. I don't trust the democrats any more than they trust us (apparently).

Gotta support paper ballots, even if Kerry does too.

I'm in the computer industry. I know it is too easy to scam the election without the paper trail.

We can still have the touch screens, and quick tallies. But there has to be something to compare it against, if there appears to be a problem. What if the Republican candidate got exactly 0 votes in a region like mine where Republicans hold an 8 to 2 majority? Without a paper trail, there is absolutely nothing that can be done.
21 posted on 04/21/2004 2:19:39 PM PDT by FactQuest
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To: upchuck
Very good link, upchuck. Thanks.
22 posted on 04/21/2004 2:21:13 PM PDT by FactQuest
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To: DBrow
"Voter do not have the power, those who count the votes do." Josef Stalin
23 posted on 04/21/2004 2:28:12 PM PDT by wordsofearnest (It ain't the whistle that pulls the train.)
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To: crusty codger
The best system is the paper ballot/optical scanner. The voter physically marks the ballot and it is read by the machine. Polling place judges count the ballots handed out and compare that number with the number of ballots read by the machine. In the event of a recount, the ballots are still there to be run through the machine again.

The problem with a paperless system is what happens if the touch screen systems malfunction on election day? According to their manufacturer, the system won't accept votes if it malfunctions. That's good, but how does the voter cast a vote? With the optical scanner, the voter still votes and the ballots are run through the machine when it is operational again.

I am very much against the idea of the paper receipt that can be carried outside the polling place. That receipt is as good as cash.
24 posted on 04/21/2004 2:35:43 PM PDT by DoctorHydrocal
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Lonesome...an absolutely outstanding idea. I'd be rushing to the patent office if I were you.

Best Regards

Sergio
25 posted on 04/21/2004 2:39:28 PM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: DoctorHydrocal
That receipt is as good as cash.

Point well spoken!

26 posted on 04/21/2004 2:41:48 PM PDT by crusty codger (Arrogance often covers a minimum of intelligence)
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To: crusty codger
Paper ballots is probably the only thing Kerry & I agree on.
27 posted on 04/21/2004 2:46:08 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
There must be a better check system available other than paper ballots. As the D's have proved since 2000, there is nothing that is beneath their attempt to regain power!
28 posted on 04/21/2004 3:31:38 PM PDT by crusty codger (Arrogance often covers a minimum of intelligence)
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To: crusty codger
I was an election judge many years ago. If an election judge wants to cheat they can find a way.

With a paper ballot you have the ballot & the stub. The stub dropped into a locked box & opened only by a state judge (if necessary) must have a matching serial number on a marked ballots. There must be the same number of signatures of voters as there are ballots & stubbs.

As I said a crooked judge can find a way but the electronic voting seems to be easy to allow cheating. Maybe because I don't fully understand how it works.

We should all become poll watchers to keep election judges honest.
29 posted on 04/21/2004 4:00:48 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
DITTO!
30 posted on 04/21/2004 4:52:32 PM PDT by crusty codger (Arrogance often covers a minimum of intelligence)
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To: Ditter
We should all become poll watchers to keep election judges honest.

How/were can I volunteer to be a poll watcher?

31 posted on 04/21/2004 4:54:55 PM PDT by crusty codger (Arrogance often covers a minimum of intelligence)
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To: crusty codger
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32 posted on 04/21/2004 4:55:32 PM PDT by crusty codger (Arrogance often covers a minimum of intelligence)
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To: crusty codger
I don't know but I am going to find out. We never had any poll watchers when I worked the polls. Start by asking your Republican Party offical. I am guessing they are the ones who would know.

When I went to vote for the first time where I live now, I tried to volunteer to clerk at the polls. They acted like jerks & wouldn't even talk to me.
33 posted on 04/21/2004 7:20:44 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: crusty codger
Give us paper ballots


Does anyone really believe that our votes are actually counted?

Without a paper trail, which has not existed everywhere for some time, the elections are in the hands of Diebold........................

I trust no one.....................
34 posted on 04/21/2004 7:25:10 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: DoctorHydrocal
See my #7, the reciept is also useful for union thuggery and vote buying.
35 posted on 04/21/2004 7:55:50 PM PDT by DBrow
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