Kerry's Medical Records Don't Jive

Wash Times ^ | Charles Hurt

[The Bandit]

The military records that Sen. John Kerry posted on his Web site yesterday raise new questions about the actions he took to earn several prestigious war medals and whether he deserved them.

The Navy awarded Mr. Kerry three Purple Hearts, a Silver Star and a Bronze Star in just four months of commanding a gunboat along rivers in Vietnam. It's an extraordinary record, say many veterans, and one that raises questions on its face.

[JohnnyZ]

I can't believe the Washington Times would question John F'n Kerry's patriotism.

[The G Man]

Intelligent, mature and rich in educational background and experience, Ens Kerry is one of the finest young officers I have ever met and without question one of the most promising," wrote Capt. Allen Slifer

He forgot "nuanced."

[Agnes Heep]

I would hope his medical records don't jive.

[TomGuy]

Notice the void in the main media about Kerry's records? Yet they scrutinized every dotted i and crossed t in Bush's records.

[mewzilla]

Wonder if these are all the records to release...?

[vandykelastone]

God, am I behind the times, or what!!! Here I am thinking that purple hearts are reserved for grievous injuries: missing limbs, serious internal injuries, etc. So Kerry arranged to have our government award him medals with George Washington's likeness on them for things that could and probably were fixed up with band-aids. He managed to defile even our first President. God help him. But not right now!!

[ladtx]

Haven't I heard this somewhere before? "They raise more questions than answers."

[Baynative]

"Superhuman" is how Ray Waller, a combat medic in the Marines, described Mr. Kerry's record of awards."

Just think. If Kerry had served his full tour he might have WON the war.

[MinuteGal]

The Washington Times isn't the Washington ComPost.

Leni

[Pete]

All of his performance evaluations rated him first or nearly first among his peers, and no evidence suggests he ever missed duty because of illness or injuriesm

There was a very interesting post by mindbender26 yesterday concerning the service records. Essentially, he said that service record inflation resulted many getting perfect scores and that anything below a perfect score indictated major problems. Kerry had less than perfect in something like 9 out of 19 categories.

[wingster]

"I don't want to say it's a lie, but it isn't true,"

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck, then it's a LIE!

[vandykelastone]

I should hope they don't jive, but they do. These are jive records if I ever heard them. If you are a jive turkey, your records would certainly follow suit.

[wingster]

F'n's entire campaign doesn't jibe!

[blanknoone]

I can't believe they are parroting the line that his CFRs are good. He was a dud, his ratings prove it, and THAT is why he didn't want to release his records. They only sound good to someone who was not an officer....he was being damned by faint praise, but the press only sees the praise. They really ought to use a FOIA request to get a bunch of comparable CFRs, say PCF boat commanders in Vietnam, and look them over. CFRs were massively inflated...and Kerry's wasn't. There is a great investigative journalism piece here...but no investigative journalist wants to look into it. Stossel?

[drc43]

Beginning to look like throwing his medals (had they been his) over the wall was one of the few honest things Kerry has ever done.

[Reagan Man]

Since John F`n Kerry is a first class liar, anything is possible.

[KellyAdmirer]

John Kerry's war record simply shows that he is very good at collecting medals. I find it quite significant that none of his "heroic" activities were observed by higher officers, and that he recommended himself for all of them.

[RogerWilko]

I'm thinking that he picked shrapnel in the butt, cause that's the ONLY area besides the lower frontal region that people wouldn't be able to see any scarring.

Who's gonna ask: "Let's see your BUTT, Senator Paper-Cut!!"?

[Dante3]

BUMP

[Thebaddog]

Someone upstairs flowered up his report for him with that comment about a wound to the buttocks. Doesn't that really read that he was a pain in the ass?

[The G Man]

"Just think. If Kerry had served his full tour he might have WON the war."

LOL!

And to think, I didn't even know he served in Vietnam! Learn somethin' new every day!

[fortunecookie]

LMAO! Lucky us that Superman Kerry has deigned to run and wants to 'lead' our country...

[fortunecookie]

What? They don't jibe? No kidding... (eyeroll)

And a special thanks to 'Sharpie' for helping with all the pre-release editing...

Another great Steyn article. Thanks!

[The Brush]

I've had more serious injuries than his trying to reach 18. Where do I go for my purple heart?

[P-Marlowe]

Requesting a purple heart is apparently a kind of "honor system" thing. An honorable man would not request a medal reserved for being "wounded" in action for a scratch or a briuse. An honorable man would know that he would not deserve a purple heart for such a wound.

J F'n Kerry did request 3 purple hearts for 3 little owies of the kind his children would get any day on the school playground.

What does that tell you about Kerry?

[Wright is right!]

"I would hope his medical records don't jive."

I, too, be hopin' dat his ospital recors not be jivin'. We don't need no mo jive-ass ospital meckul recors.

Did the Washington Thymes actually use "jive" instead of "jibe?"

Searching for BeeGee's ....

Michael

[BunnySlippers]

Why? It's a right wing paper/

[Semper Paratus]

I wasn't comfortable with opening Vietnam era records and was furious with the furor over W's records that forced him to do a COMPLETE records dump.

JF'nK brought this on himself by his CONSTANT bleating about his war record and his using former crew memebers as tour 'roadies'. It now appears that Kerry has dishonored himself, fellow Viet era vetrans, and the medals award process.

[Wooly]

His Fitness Reports show that the command did not have any confidence in him. Since he was an officer instead of an enlisted they gave him some medals and shipped his butt out of the command, before he got someone killed.

[Arthur McGowan]

The word is "jibe," not "jive." Actually, it looks as though the records don't jibe, but they ARE jive.

[EggsAckley]

Welcome, Newbie. Just an FYI: When posting an article, DO NOT change the title. The title of this article WAS "Records on medals spark questions" but you changed it and in the process incorrectly used the word "jive."

[Koan]

I cherish the two purple hearts that my grandmother entrusted to me before she died. They were awarded posthumously to my two uncles who were killed in WWII. I know how my grandmother felt about those metals. She would not have thrown them over any wall for any reason. The taste I'm beginning to get in my mouth concerning Mr. Kerry's war record makes me want to spit.

[Condor51]

I went to Kerry's site (while holding my nose) and read all the posted records and by God, he is something!

He's George Washington, John Paul Jones, Ulysses S Grant, Audie Murphy, 'Bull' Halsey and a little John Wayne all rolled into one. It's now understandable why he turned down the MOH - given his modesty.

As such, I can only conclude that the presidency is beneath him - he should be on Mount Olympus!

You know I'm lying about the MOH and am being SARCASTIC, don't you?

[anoldafvet]

"It now appears that Kerry has dishonored himself, fellow Viet era vetrans, and the medals award process."

He did that long before his records release, like when he formed VVAW and "Testified" before congress.

[TomGuy]

[Notice the purple comment -- All Purpose ---]

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

Kerry has earned the title of............

Senator Boo Boo

[JohnnyZ]

The Washington Times isn't the Washington ComPost.

I'm shocked that anyone would question John Kerry's patriotism.

Did you know he served in Vietnam?

[raybbr]

But the citation for the Bronze Star that he was awarded for the same action described "his arm bleeding and in pain," saying nothing about arm bruises or shrapnel wounds anywhere.

Just show the scars for all these wounds.

Why won't anyone ask to see the scars?

[PeterPrinciple]

shipped his butt out of the command, before he got someone killed.

The Peter Principle has been around for awhile and is actually useful at times.

[soozla]

"God, am I behind the times, or what!!! Here I am thinking that purple hearts are reserved for grievous injuries: missing limbs, serious internal injuries, etc."

No, you're not behind the times............until John Effin' Kerry, that's what my family thought, too!! My brother-in-law received a Purple Heart for HIS service in Nam too, but he came back paralyzed, from the chest down, confined to a wheelchair for the rest of his life. I think most families whose loved ones suffered battle injuries in VietNam and other wars, look upon John Effin' Kerry's record of awards as "questionable", to say the least!

[Mo1]

Question:

The distinguished medal of honor that Kerry received .. how many of them were awarded to soldiers during Vietnam ?

[kellynla]

"Requesting a purple heart is apparently a kind of "honor system" thing."

Let's be clear here. A Purple Heart is awarded a wounded combatant. It is NOT REQUESTED by the combatant.

I will post the military regulations for a Purple Heart.

But until now, I have never, ever heard of anyone "requesting" a Purple Heart. Which is why Kerry's C.O. looked at this clown and probably laughed at him when he "asked" for a PH with a piece of shrapnel in his hand.

Semper Fi,
Kelly

[Mr Rogers]

That would make a great Freeper poster!

[kellynla]

Excellent piece. Thanks for posting it.

Semper Fi,
Kelly

[kellynla]

Here is the link governing the Award of the Purple Heart: http://www.purpleheart.org/Awd_of_PH.htm

[rs79bm]

[auggy]

"He was credited with killing 20 enemy fighters."

Wow! Not only is he a hero, he is "The Terminator", also.

What a Macho Man..

[presidio9]