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House rejects amendment to home-schooling bill
DailyPress.com ^
| April 21, 2004
| Associated Press
Posted on 04/22/2004 7:19:51 AM PDT by LadyShallott
RICHMOND, Va. -- The House of Delegates rebuffed Gov. Mark R. Warner's attempt to amend legislation allowing parents with high school diplomas to teach their children at home. The House voted 62-37 Wednesday to reject Warner's amendment to the bill, which would eliminate the requirement that home-schoolers have a college degree unless they claim a religious exemption or meet other criteria. Parents with only high school diplomas who do not take the religious exemption can teach their own children if they use a correspondence course or if they get the curriculum approved by the local public school superintendent. Del. Robert Bell's bill would eliminate those requirements. Warner's amendment would have kept those options and added another, allowing parents who pass certain standardized tests to home-school their children. "The governor's amendment does not require these people to pass these tests," said Del. James H. Dillard II, R-Fairfax. "It simply says this is another option for high school graduates." Del. Richard Black, R-Loudoun, said Warner's amendment defeats the bill's purpose of treating all home-schooling parents the same. "We should treat people equally. We should not treat them differently just because they don't ask for the religious exemption," Black said. The bill now goes back to Warner, who can either veto it or allow it to become law.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: homeschool; homeschoolers; homeschoollist; markwarner; vageneralassembly
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To: *Homeschool_list; netmilsmom; GOPrincess; Sam's Army
*HOMESCHOOL PING*
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posted on
04/22/2004 7:22:23 AM PDT
by
LadyShallott
("An armed society is a polite society."~Robert A. Heinlein)
To: 4everontheRight
*Homeschool PING*
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posted on
04/22/2004 7:25:00 AM PDT
by
LadyShallott
("An armed society is a polite society."~Robert A. Heinlein)
To: LadyShallott
Studies have shown that the parents' level of education does not have a material effect on the success of the homeschooled student. Regardless of how much schooling the parents received, homeschooled students score 20 to 30 points higher than their public and private school peers on standardized achievement tests.
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posted on
04/22/2004 7:28:18 AM PDT
by
Pete
To: LadyShallott
The really funny thing is that we just got the DVD based "Switched on Schoolhouse" from Alpha Omega. I'm learning right along with my third grader.
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posted on
04/22/2004 7:36:34 AM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(Laz, where are you? Are you ok?)
To: LadyShallott
allowing parents who pass certain standardized tests to home-school their children. lol! Yeah, right. How about we make legislatures and governors take tests? I bet you most of them haven't even read the Constitution or read the bills put in front of them before they vote.
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posted on
04/22/2004 7:46:11 AM PDT
by
Boxsford
To: Pete
Studies have shown that the parents' level of education does not have a material effect on the success of the homeschooled student. Regardless of how much schooling the parents received, homeschooled students score 20 to 30 points higher than their public and private school peers on standardized achievement tests. And are about 2 grade-levels ahead of private school kids and 4 grade-levels ahead of public school kids.
To: Always Right
And are about 2 grade-levels ahead of private school kids...
Don't get me wrong, my kids will be home-schooled or go to private school, but do you have any proof that home schooled kids are that far ahead of privately schooled?
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posted on
04/22/2004 7:57:32 AM PDT
by
BJClinton
(This is how one should do a sarcasm tag: </sarcasm>)
To: Boxsford
allowing parents who pass certain standardized tests to home-school their children.
Exactly. I am just wondering why the government has a say in how I CHOOSE TO EDUCATE MY CHILD. Where on earth does it say in the constitution that the government has the right to force you to educate your children the way they want them educated?????
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posted on
04/22/2004 8:08:30 AM PDT
by
American72
(Sick of Democrats)
To: chance33_98
ping
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posted on
04/22/2004 8:13:34 AM PDT
by
LadyShallott
("An armed society is a polite society."~Robert A. Heinlein)
To: netmilsmom
"I'm learning right along with my third grader."
Exactly...which just goes to show how much more our homeschooled kids are learning as compared to the 'education' we had as children. Take, for example, the things my 4th grader learned about this year pertaining to Ancient History....Sargon; Themistocles; Darius; the Peloponissian Wars....etc. I never knew all this stuff when I was his age.
To: American72
"Where on earth does it say in the constitution that the government has the right to force you to educate your children the way they want them educated?????"
Just to verify for any naysayers out there....IT DOESN'T!
To: Born in a Rage
When I was in school (in the stone age), we never got past the civil war in history.
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posted on
04/22/2004 8:52:08 AM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(Laz, where are you? Are you ok?)
To: netmilsmom
They don't even start history in the local school here until 4th grade (state history). The mother of one of my kids friends told me that her son's teacher said they aren't allowed to discuss 'war' in school, even on a historical level. So.....get this, they learned a 'blurb' about Abraham Lincoln and that he freed the slaves but it was never mentioned that it took the Civil War to accomplish that...unreal.
To: LadyShallott
Home schooling v. non home schooling is all about
money. School districts receive monies based on
Average Daily Attendance (ADA). The school districts
could give a hoot about your child's education. You
can pin them down, by asking: if they are so dedicated,
then teach for free, like you do. Stand back.
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posted on
04/22/2004 9:48:02 AM PDT
by
Smartass
(BUSH & CHENEY 2004 - THE BEST GET BETTER)
To: LadyShallott
Bump!
To: LadyShallott
"We should treat people equally. We should not treat them differently just because they don't ask for the religious exemption," Black said. That's correct. Parents by right should be a child's primary educators, and therefore should exercise primary control over their child's education.
This law stands to make liars out of non-religious parents. It induces them to take a religious exemption when they're not religious. I don't see how this can serve the common good.
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posted on
04/22/2004 10:17:46 AM PDT
by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: LadyShallott
INTREP - Homeschool Assault
To: Born in a Rage
My daughter was an advanced reader at a young age, yet because they did no history until 4th grade, she had no context for the historical novels she was reading for fun. I bought an American history book and taught her history after school in 2nd grade so she'd have a sense of the timeline of U.S. History and understand what was going on if she read a book set during the Revolution, the Civil War, or the Westward Movement.
I am now homeschooling my younger children and using a wonderful curriculum which starts history and geography in K. Yesterday my 3rd grader was so taken with her lesson on Elizabeth I and Sir Francis Drake that she wrote a little play for her and her younger brother to perform. Love it :). It's a crime that most of America's children aren't exposed to the wonders of history from their earliest years.
"Cultural Literacy" is another biggie to me -- children understanding not only history but being exposed to the finest in literature, movies, music. So many children, even when I was in school in the '70s, are exposed to only a very narrow spectrum of the popular culture. Elementary school readers, for example, are often meaningless dreck these days rather than selections from books and poetry which have stood the test of time.
To: Born in a Rage
My daughter was an advanced reader at a young age, yet because they did no history until 4th grade, she had no context for the historical novels she was reading for fun. I bought an American history book and taught her history after school in 2nd grade so she'd have a sense of the timeline of U.S. History and understand what was going on if she read a book set during the Revolution, the Civil War, or the Westward Movement.
I am now homeschooling my younger children and using a wonderful curriculum which starts history and geography in K. Yesterday my 3rd grader was so taken with her lesson on Elizabeth I and Sir Francis Drake that she wrote a little play for her and her younger brother to perform. Love it :). It's a crime that most of America's children aren't exposed to the wonders of history from their earliest years.
"Cultural Literacy" is another biggie to me -- children understanding not only history but being exposed to the finest in literature, movies, music. So many children, even when I was in school in the '70s, are exposed to only a very narrow spectrum of the popular culture. Elementary school readers, for example, are often meaningless dreck these days rather than selections from books and poetry which have stood the test of time.
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