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Polygamists Take Their Cases to the Courts
Concerned Women for America ^ | 4/19/2004 | Jeremy Sewall

Posted on 04/23/2004 7:21:16 AM PDT by scripter

They argue that U.S. Supreme Court’s Lawrence ruling has paved the way.

The drive for homosexual "rights" is evolving into a larger effort to “expand” marriage to include polygamy in the civil law.

Polygamists are citing the U.S. Supreme Court's Lawrence v. Texas

(2003) ruling to challenge marriage laws. In Utah, the ban on polygamy came under attack as civil rights attorney Brian Barnard brought a federal lawsuit, Bronson v. Swensen, No. 02:04-CV-0021, on January 12, 2004, against the state based in part on the Supreme Court’s reasoning in Lawrence.

Two other attorneys have also referenced Lawrence in defending polygamists. The Arizona Daily Star cited convicted bigamist and child rapist Thomas Green, whose lawyer, John Bucher, argued in Utah v. Green that Green’s convictions should be thrown out in light of Lawrence.

"It's no surprise that attorneys for polygamists try to expand Lawrence to bolster their claims," said Jan LaRue, chief counsel for Concerned Women for America (CWA). "Decriminalizing private sex acts between adults, however, is a monumental leap from deconstructing marriage, which has public ramifications. The Lawrence opinion makes clear that the ruling 'does not mean that other laws distinguishing between heterosexuals and homosexuals would similarly fail under rational basis review ... such as ... preserving the traditional institution of marriage.'"

Bucher told CWA in an interview that his argument is “bigger than [Lawrence],” and that he including reasoning from it as an afterthought. However, in citing his use of the case, he said, “in Lawrence you have a right between adults to engage in sodomy in your own home,” but there were “interesting dicta in it about the rights of people in general.” He stated that because it “mentions the 14th Amendment, and because of the interesting language, it appears to leave room for the argument that polygamy may be a protected practice.”

At the same time, because of a history of cases in the 1970s and 1980s citing “compelling state interest” as sufficient reason to limit some rights, Bucher said, his argument was a “stretch because lots of cases talk about the sanctity of marriage, and there is a compelling state interest in marriage.”

In Bronson v. Swensen, Barnard thinks he has a better chance of challenging the bigamy law because his case is free of allegations of rape and sexual misconduct. Barnard filed a complaint in the United States District Court, District of Utah, Central Division, against Salt Lake County clerks for refusing to grant a marriage license to G. Lee Cook, an adult male, and J. Bronson, an adult female, because Cook was already married to D. Cook. D. Cook had given her consent to the plural marriage.

In his complaint, Barnard lists three problems with the state law:

First, the state has “improperly limited and restricted plaintiffs’ right and ability to fulfill and practice a major tenet of their religion,” thus violating the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

Second, based on the First and other amendments, the state “has improperly limited and restricted plaintiffs’ right to intimate expression and association.”

Third, the state “violated the right to privacy of the plaintiffs with regard to private, intimate matters as protected by the First, Fourteenth and other Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. No. 02-102, (2003); 2003 U.S. LEXIS 5013.”

In an affidavit filed with the complaint, plaintiff J. Bronson affirmed that she believes the law violates her free exercise of religion:

“I was born into a family that were members of, and practiced the tenets of, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. After a great deal of reading, discussion, study and prayer, I determined that the practice of plural marriage was and is a major tenet of the restored church."

To back her statement, Bronson attached a doctrinal statement on polygamy, which quoted Brigham Young as saying, “The only men who become Gods, even the sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy.”

Some scholars think Barnard’s case has merit.

“It’s not a case people can sniff at,” Richard G. Wilkins, law professor at Brigham Young University, told The Washington Post. “If you can’t require monogamy, how in the world can you deny the claims of the polygamists, particularly when it’s buttressed by the claim of religion?”

However, the Arizona Daily Star reports that Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff said the lawsuit goes “way beyond the privacy interest the Supreme Court ruled on.” Shurtleff added, “Anytime you involve marriage, family, children – fundamental units of society – the state does have a compelling interest in what that is.”

Recently polygamists have said they would be content to gain decriminalization instead of full legalization. Salt Lake City attorney Rodney Parker asked the Salt Lake Tribune why polygamists “don't…have the right to organize their families without being charged with a crime?" According to the Tribune,

Barnard acknowledges that legalizing polygamy would "hit the legal system hard," and that his clients would be happy with decriminalization. That way, he said, "spiritual wives" would have full knowledge that they had no rights to benefits and inheritances. As Barnard’s case gains more attention, the practice of polygamy is coming under closer scrutiny. The Christian Science Monitor reports that there are an estimated 100,000 polygamists in America.

Authorities are investigating a sect of fundamentalist Mormons in Colorado City, Arizona, with concerns over forced marriages of underage girls. Three 16-year-old girls are known to have run away from the enclave, according to the Monitor.

In addition, a member of the Kingston clan in Utah recently was sentenced to one year in prison for taking a 15-year-old cousin (who was also his aunt) as his wife.

Jeremy Sewall is a Patrick Henry College government major who is working on the marriage issue at Concerned Women for America.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cwa; homosexualagenda; lawrencevtexas; marriage; polygamy; prisoners
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Those who said this wouldn't happen, both freepers and non-freepers, were apparently wrong. While polygamy isn't yet legal, the push for it apparently now has more merit.

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1 posted on 04/23/2004 7:21:17 AM PDT by scripter
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To: little jeremiah; EdReform
Related to Lawrence v. Texas, ping
2 posted on 04/23/2004 7:22:13 AM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
People who want to marry their sister/brother/dog are next in line...
3 posted on 04/23/2004 7:23:42 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: scripter
Of course Santorum was vilified for saying that Lawrence would bring on exactly what it has brought on -- court imposed gay marriage, and soon, court-imposed polygamy and polyandry.
4 posted on 04/23/2004 7:24:29 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: scripter
Perhaps the sword could be used to cut both ways. IF the courts would uphold traditional marrage (heterosexual) as a compelling state interest, then that decision could be applied AGAINST homosexual 'marrage' on the same basis.
5 posted on 04/23/2004 7:26:21 AM PDT by Godzilla (Native of Tropical Montana)
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To: 2banana
As I see it, allowing homosexual marriage opens it up so brothers can marry brothers, sisters marry sisters, fathers marry sons and mothers marry daughters. Since no offspring can result, why not?
6 posted on 04/23/2004 7:26:47 AM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Godzilla
Now you're talking. I think that's a great idea.
7 posted on 04/23/2004 7:27:57 AM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: 2banana
All I can tell you is that my dog, Ole Shep, has been acting kind of sulky and abused lately...I'm gonna have to do something.
8 posted on 04/23/2004 7:32:01 AM PDT by sailor4321
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To: Unam Sanctam
Thanks for the reminder. I was looking for his original comments but a search returns too many hits. If you have a link... may as well document as much as we can here.
9 posted on 04/23/2004 7:34:29 AM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
This will get really interesting when a Muslim challenges laws against polygamy.
10 posted on 04/23/2004 7:37:20 AM PDT by nomorelurker (wetraginhell)
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To: sailor4321
Actually, I read an article that said that since Sweden has legalized gay marraige, they have been having a lot of problems with animals being sexually abused. It is one of the most common abuses of dogs there.

Is that sick or what?
11 posted on 04/23/2004 7:39:56 AM PDT by I still care
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To: scripter
A great idea, yes. But it is an awful big IF given the liberality of todays judicial system.
12 posted on 04/23/2004 7:43:35 AM PDT by Godzilla (Native of Tropical Montana)
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To: scripter
Those who said this wouldn't happen, both freepers and non-freepers, were apparently wrong. While polygamy isn't yet legal, the push for it apparently now has more merit.

When I've heard the claim that gay marriage wouldn't lead to legalization of polygamy, all I could think of was that polygamy has a far greater claim. I believe it was the norm in much of the ancient world, and is still observed in at least some Muslim countries. No society has ever had gay marriage.

I saw a little thing in the paper (I thought it was today's paper, but I can't find it) about some people pushing for "group marriage," i.e., not polygamy or polyandry, but sort of open-ended, for people who are married but want to branch out without being considered unfaithful. A woman quoted in the piece (just a short one; not much more than a paragraph) said she herself has two "OSOPs" (other significant other persons) besides her husband.

13 posted on 04/23/2004 7:44:11 AM PDT by maryz
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To: scripter
The penultimate statement about bigamy was made by none other than Oscar Wilde.
14 posted on 04/23/2004 7:47:46 AM PDT by George Smiley (Is the RKBA still a right if you have to get the government's permission before you can exercise it?)
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The monogamy movement in recent history is a cousin to communism. The real reason behind it is that rich and powerful guys married many wives, and left the poor weak guys with no women. The egalitarian movement was started to allow for equality. Since men/women ratio is essentially 50/50, if a one man marries 100 wives like the King of Saudi Arabia, or 1000 wives like King Solomon, that takes away from the pool of available women.

Polygamy has been around for thousands of years in all kinds of cultures, and it can be a solution to the current divorce crises. I submit for discussion: When women get too focused on children, and neglect their sexual duty towards their husbands (having headaches!), then husbands can bring in a competition a new wife. The old wife, and her children will stay in the family, and the new women will provide sexual void for the guy. I know all that crap about the women libs, which are going to scream "how about women having more husbands"! I think if a girl is in need of sex as frequently as a guy, and her husband does not want to provide it, SHE CAN HAVE AS MANY HUSBANDS AS SHE WANTS! The reality is very few girls on this planet have such a high drive.

15 posted on 04/23/2004 7:48:50 AM PDT by philosofy123
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Santorum told the AP reporter, “If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything.”

Quoted on:

http://www.traditionalvalues.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=886

16 posted on 04/23/2004 7:49:14 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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Does this mean that I will be able to marry, Herbert, my pet turtle? Actually, he's a lawn ornament, but I have had him for so many years, he seems real..... and I think he feels the same about me.

Will I be able to get reparations from my first 2 wives??? Will I be required to actually dig them back up again?

If we will be allowed to marry the dead too, I want to be the first to tie the knot with Elvis....!!!

Wow..my ceramic turtle, my ex-wives and Elvis....I feel so liberated and free....oh happy, happy day!!!
17 posted on 04/23/2004 7:51:35 AM PDT by Gator113
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To: philosofy123
"The monogamy movement in recent history is a cousin to communism. The real reason behind it is that rich and powerful guys married many wives, and left the poor weak guys with no women.

Huh? Communism sought do elimiate marriage in favor of civil unions. BTW monogamy has also been around for thousands of years, therefore your polyagamy arguement is not a solution to the present divorce crisis. What is the solution is the strengthening of marriage throught the strenghtening of the moral fabric of todays society that has been torn down over the past several decades of free sex, abortion, condoms, welfare and no fault divorce. Polyagamy would only add fuel to the lawyers - imagine the child support lawsuits that could spring up as well as the other legal issues. No, the answer lies with the man and woman coming into the marriage committed it that divorce is not an option, and society supporting and encouraging them.

18 posted on 04/23/2004 8:04:01 AM PDT by Godzilla (Nuke the whales, save the medfly)
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To: scripter
Get ready for the storm...
19 posted on 04/23/2004 8:12:59 AM PDT by jcb8199
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To: nomorelurker
This will get really interesting when a Muslim challenges laws against polygamy.

Indeed. Yet some (even here) refuse to acknowledge the fallout.

20 posted on 04/23/2004 8:14:04 AM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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