but he loves his democrat party more....
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To: Sub-Driver
"but he loves his democrat party more..."Obviously, that's why he's attempting to shape the church to fit the party.
39 posted on
04/23/2004 6:27:00 PM PDT by
spunkets
To: Sub-Driver; All
"TRENTON, N.J. (AP) Gov. James E. McGreevey said he loves his Catholic faith and will continue to practice it, but church leaders are wrong to tell him and other politicians not to support abortion rights."
Well then, Gov. McGreevey, Senator Kerry and other anti-life politicians should get another religion.
What kind of religion would tell it's members to kill?
40 posted on
04/23/2004 6:31:36 PM PDT by
Sun
To: Sub-Driver
McGreevey: Church wrong to dictate to Catholic politicians
The Church is to rebuke sinning members of the church. If a Catholic politician is flouting church teaching (especially Biblical teaching), then he is transgressing. As a public leader he is especially accountable and to be judged more strictly for his transgressions. Besides, if he's a real Catholic, his responsibility is to the Church first and secular society second. If he can't live with this, then he should officially leave the Church because he has certainly already abandoned it by being disobedient.
42 posted on
04/23/2004 6:39:20 PM PDT by
aruanan
To: Sub-Driver
It's such good news that the Catholic Church is finally standing for something and putting some muscle into it. The next step is to excommunicate the baby killers.
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HIP, HIP, HOORAY!
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44 posted on
04/23/2004 7:01:28 PM PDT by
Concentrate
("It's the TV, stupid!")
To: Sub-Driver
Carl Cameron, on Fox News tonight, mentioned that every poll shows that among Catholics - and most religions - those who go to church regularly vote Republican and those who don't (Catholics in name only) vote DemocRAT.
When was the last time the McGreevy went to church without a TV camera present?
45 posted on
04/23/2004 7:04:47 PM PDT by
jackbill
To: Sub-Driver
bump
46 posted on
04/23/2004 7:12:03 PM PDT by
Steve0113
("You've been pulling our chain, we should've done something about you a long time ago." - C. Daniels)
To: Sub-Driver
I just forwarded the article to The Catholic League. I suspect Bill Donahue will have something to say about McGreedy.
47 posted on
04/23/2004 7:30:33 PM PDT by
mware
To: Sub-Driver
Church opinions like the one issued Friday by the Vatican force American Catholics to chose between obeying their religion and practicing politics, McGreevey said.
"I do not accept that false choice," he told reporters.
At least this bozo HAS a choice (however wrong it may be)... the innocent babies who are murdered have NO choice. I'd like to slap this guy REAL hard!
48 posted on
04/23/2004 8:52:40 PM PDT by
Just Lori
(I opted for adoption..........NOT abortion!)
To: Sub-Driver
Gov. James E. McGreevey said he loves his Catholic faith and will continue to practice it, but church leaders are wrong to tell him and other politicians not to support abortion rights. He just must be STOOPID to not see the contradiction in that statement.
I saw a MA politician yesterday saying that he took an oath to uphold the Constitution, so he HAS to support abortion. WRONG! He has the right, as does every citizen, to work against things in the Constitution with which he disagrees. I guess if he were in Government in the 1850's he would have felt as though he HAD to support the Dred-Scott decision as well.
Whatta buncha maroons!
57 posted on
04/24/2004 6:10:14 AM PDT by
SuziQ
To: Sub-Driver
McGreevey, however, insisted that his support of abortion rights is a matter of conscience and that church teaching has long backed individuals who followed their own conscience when making moral choices. That's the 'Jesuit line' so popular among politicians. The Church ACTUALLY teaches that all Catholics must create an INFORMED conscience so that they will know what is sinful and what is not. They can can then CHOOSE the sinful route, but they will know that there will be consequences. McGreevy knows that supporting abortion is sinful, yet he continues to do so publicly. Because of this he's causing confusion and scandal among Catholics in NJ. For that reason alone, he should abstain from Communion.
I'm glad Cardinal Arinze spoke out so forcefully about it. He's not popular with the libs anyway. I think they're scared that he might be the next Pope. They are so hoping to get someone less 'rigid' than JPII.
58 posted on
04/24/2004 6:16:56 AM PDT by
SuziQ
To: Southern62
he just doesn't get It...
To: Sub-Driver
If you translate McGreevy's statments, essentially what he is saying is that Catholics are ineligible to hold public office unless they renounce their faith.
To: Sub-Driver
McGreevey: Church wrong to dictate to Catholic politicians Someone needs to tell him that's he actually a Unitarian and if he goes there no one will criticize him for anything he believes.
To: Sub-Driver
"But as governor, I have a basic moral obligation to govern in a Democratic, civil, inclusive society." "Civil" societies don't slaughter their children.
To: Sub-Driver
Cafeteria Catholic.
65 posted on
04/24/2004 8:06:23 AM PDT by
Ann Archy
(Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
To: Sub-Driver
James Mc Greedy and John Freakin' Kerry are CINO = CATHOLIC IN NAME ONLY!
To: Sub-Driver
McGreedy is no better than Kerry when it comes to abortion and other issues ... .
69 posted on
04/24/2004 8:15:25 AM PDT by
nmh
(Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
To: Sub-Driver
Hey, McGreevy, Catholics consider the Pope to be the Vicar of Christ. That means it wasn't an OPINION, bud.
Now, if you don't believe that the Pope is the Vicar of Christ, I would suggest you find another church.
71 posted on
04/24/2004 8:20:26 AM PDT by
frgoff
To: Sub-Driver
The Pope is also against the death penalty and the war in Iraq. Is the church going to refuse communion to Catholic politicians who favor them?
When John F. Kennedy ran for president, he had to assure Americans that he wouldn't let the Vatican dictate his policies. I don't understand why Rome is now trying to meddle in American politics. If voters think Catholic politicians are bound to obey their church instead of the U.S. Constitution, Catholics are going to have trouble getting elected.
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82 posted on
04/25/2004 8:20:36 AM PDT by
Mr. Silverback
(Dwight Eisenhower: "I will go to Korea." John F. Kerry: "I will go to Paris.")
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