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Chalabi to be dropped
The Statesman ^

Posted on 04/24/2004 1:19:49 PM PDT by Arkinsaw

WASHINGTON, April 24. — The USA and the top UN envoy to Iraq have decided to exclude the majority of politicians the US-led coalition relied on over the past year when they select an Iraqi government to assume power on 30 June, officials said. The latest shift in policy comes as the US-led coalition faces some contentious and long-standing issues ahead of the power transfer, the Washington Post reported quoting US and UN officials.

At the top of the list of those likely to be jettisoned was Mr Ahmed Chalabi, a Shiite politician who for years was a favourite of the Pentagon and the office of US Vice-President Mr Richard Cheney.

Mr Chalabi has increasingly alienated the Bush administration in recent months. He generated anger in Washington yesterday when he said a new US plan to allow some former officials of the Baath Party and military to return to office was the equivalent of returning Nazis to power.

In a nationwide address yesterday, US administrator Mr Paul Bremer said complaints that the programme was “unevenly and unjustly” administered were “legitimate”.

In another development, The US-led coalition has approved $500 million in reconstruction spending for seven Iraqi cities, including Baghdad, Mosul and Fallujah, a US official said in Ramadi today.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baathists; chalabi; handover; igc; interim; iraq; rebuildingiraq
Chalabi's comments last week about allowing low level Baath members seems to have had a repercussion to his detriment.
1 posted on 04/24/2004 1:19:51 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw
It might be a little payback for the false information he fed us prior to the war, too.
2 posted on 04/24/2004 1:24:39 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Arkinsaw
Mr. Chalabi said at the very beginning that he did not want to be in a top position in the government. He is however, knowedgeable and someone we could work with through this portion of the framing a government for the people of Iraq..

So, I wouldn't read too much into it........SPIN!!!!!

3 posted on 04/24/2004 1:25:59 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Arkinsaw
I'm not really informed about the IGC, but when I've seen interviews with Chalabi, something just doesn't sit right with me.

Can't put my finger on it though.

Wasn't there some talk that he and others were the ones that may have manipulated the intelligence community before the war about weapons site, etc.?
4 posted on 04/24/2004 1:26:11 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Arkinsaw
The Bush Administration rewards its enemies and punishes its friends. Good thinking!
5 posted on 04/24/2004 1:31:24 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: dawn53
Chalbi has an interesting relationship with Jordan.
6 posted on 04/24/2004 1:36:55 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: dawn53
What doesn't sit right is the poisoning of the well about him by the DoS and CIA. He has been our most valuable asset in Iraq. Not that you'd know it from thsoe snakes and their running dog press.
7 posted on 04/24/2004 1:42:21 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: Arkinsaw
This frees him up to run for office. If he's part of the interim government he can not be out setting up a campaign. Let the Iraqi people decide if they want him or not.
8 posted on 04/24/2004 1:44:16 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing.)
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To: Arkinsaw
Not sorry to see him go.

Wonder who else is being dropped?
9 posted on 04/24/2004 1:45:50 PM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ...( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: MizSterious
Thank God.
10 posted on 04/24/2004 1:47:06 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Arkinsaw
Maybe the Iraqis will think twice about their insurgency if they think we might walk off and bring Saddam back!

"Sorry about your klymer kids and the palaces, Saddam, but we didn't find any WMDs and these people deserve you. Let's kiss and make up?"

11 posted on 04/24/2004 1:47:17 PM PDT by paleocon patriarch
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To: MizSterious
We caught off funding to his group..
12 posted on 04/24/2004 1:47:27 PM PDT by Dog (In Memory of Pat Tillman ---- ---- ---- American Hero.)
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To: dawn53
I'm with you; I've never trusted this guy.
13 posted on 04/24/2004 1:48:02 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Arkinsaw
500 million in reconstruction spending for seven Iraqi cities, including Baghdad, Mosul and Fallujah

I believe we SHOULD DESTROY Fallujah BEFORE we rebuild it.

14 posted on 04/24/2004 1:48:36 PM PDT by PISANO (Our troops...... will NOT tire...will NOT falter.....and WILL NOT FAIL!!!)
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To: Dog
caught=cut.......sheesh!
15 posted on 04/24/2004 1:49:23 PM PDT by Dog (In Memory of Pat Tillman ---- ---- ---- American Hero.)
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To: Arkinsaw
I know the state dept. has had it in for him for many years.
16 posted on 04/24/2004 1:50:03 PM PDT by Valin (Hating people is like burning down your house to kill a rat)
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To: nuconvert
Its good to know we and the UN are in agreement pro-American politicians in Iraq are a liability in the Middle East. The more things change the more things remain the same. No wonder we're bringing the Ba'athists back in. All it took was the slaughter of several hundred American soldiers to make us reverse course. Its proof terrorism can pay big dividends.
17 posted on 04/24/2004 1:50:04 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Arkinsaw; Liz
Chalabi's head is squarely on the chopping block. Good news for us; bad for the pseudo-con Neos.

Which, of course, brings it's own kind of perverse joy.

J
18 posted on 04/24/2004 1:52:25 PM PDT by J. L. Chamberlain
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To: McGavin999
"frees him up to run for office"

Good point.
19 posted on 04/24/2004 2:00:07 PM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ...( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: Howlin
Is he gay, do ya think? "Not that there's anything wrong with that" (yeah, right). Cuz sometimes he looks like he's gay, the way he minces around.
20 posted on 04/24/2004 2:01:08 PM PDT by johnb838 ("I really don't care; they're all gonna die," US Marine in Fallujah)
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To: johnb838
I have NO clue about his sexual orientation -- and having enough to deal with with the war, don't even want to CONTEMPLATE that!
21 posted on 04/24/2004 2:05:16 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Valin; Sacajaweau
I used to believe that Chalabi was a good pro-Western choice for a leadership position in Iraq, thinking that he was out for the betterment of his country. I used to argue with a good friend about his trustworthiness.

Turns out my friend was right. Not only was Chalabi responsible for most of the false intelligence we received about WMD prior to the war, he has proved to be angling from Day One to put himself into top leadership and is looking out for his own political interests, not what is best for Iraq. If you look at his recent positions, he is anything but a friend to us, and is trying to play both sides of the fence to advance himself.

Can't believe it, but the State Department was right about the guy.

22 posted on 04/24/2004 2:16:53 PM PDT by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: GreatOne
Maybe they will turn him over to the Jordanians. Jordan wants Chalabi for bank fraud or embezzlement.
23 posted on 04/24/2004 2:32:49 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: Arkinsaw
I'm not a fan of Mr. Chalabi, but Ba'atistsa are among the terrorists in Iraq, and they know that the Bush Administration's reaction to increased terrorism, is to return some Ba'athists into offices.
24 posted on 04/24/2004 2:56:54 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: GreatOne
he has proved to be angling from Day One to put himself into top leadership and is looking out for his own political interests

If Chalabi was elected while the US was still in Iraq it would look to Iraqis like it was 1920 all over again where Britain brought in Faisal, also an Iraqi exile, and pronounced him King of Iraq.

Even if Chalabi's a saint (he's obviously not as he lied about WMD inteligence) we should steer clear of supporting any particular person, especially an exile. Perceptions matter.
25 posted on 04/24/2004 3:08:21 PM PDT by lelio
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To: J. L. Chamberlain; Burkeman1; JohnGalt; sheltonmac
Chalabi's head is squarely on the chopping block. Good news for us; bad for the pseudo-con Neos.

Well, well, a little good news indeed

26 posted on 04/24/2004 3:11:44 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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To: billbears
Yes -that is good news. If we are going to be in Iraq then at least start making the right moves. This guy should never have been tapped in the first place.
27 posted on 04/24/2004 4:41:27 PM PDT by Burkeman1 ("I said the government can't help you. I didn't say it couldn't hurt you." Chief Wiggam)
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To: dawn53
"...but when I've seen interviews with Chalabi, something just doesn't sit right with me."

Could it be this?

Mr Hankes-Drielsma, a close associate of the controversial Iraqi finance minister Ahmed Chalabi, has played a pivotal role in bringing the scandal to light by challenging the United Nations with paperwork discovered in Baghdad files.

The finance minister and the Oil for Food scandal. Think perhaps he's a sneaky guy?

28 posted on 04/24/2004 4:53:54 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: J. L. Chamberlain; JohnGalt; mr.pink; Arkinsaw; billbears; sheltonmac; Burkeman1
Chalabi's head is squarely on the chopping block. Good news for us; bad for the pseudo-con Neos.

I guess Dickie Perle must be all broken up about it.

It was neocon Perle who was overseer of the "Chalabi Intelligence Network", for which the US paid Chalabi and his INC 92 Million US dollars (and Perle got how much?).

The INC facilitated the effort to feed bogus intelligence to the Pentagon and the CIA.

After the US invaded Iraq, our military could not even find the alleged agent network Chalabi said he ran.

Chalabi's explanation?.." They are in hiding"...

What a crock. "Uriah Heep" Chalabi was running the classic "Intelligence for sale" scam. Every con artist and their cousin came crawling out of the woodwork to cash in. Perle was the author of it.

29 posted on 04/24/2004 5:09:54 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
And he was so brazen that he even bragged publicaly about his lies on WMDS! He recently criticized Bush to the press- I think that was the last straw for the Administration.
30 posted on 04/24/2004 5:14:30 PM PDT by Burkeman1 ("I said the government can't help you. I didn't say it couldn't hurt you." Chief Wiggam)
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He recently criticized Bush to the press- I think that was the last straw for the Administration.

Yeah, and now it's time for the admin to cut off the $300,000 per month we are still paying Chalabi.

31 posted on 04/24/2004 5:20:50 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
The President of the United States makes what? 500,000 grand a year? If that? But yet we have been paying our hand picked Iraqi "patriot" leader 300,000 grand a MONTH?

If that doesn't tell you how much of a fraud the neocons are and this war is nothing will! Welcome us with roses and as "liberators?" will they Bill Kristol? And Yet the only "leader" they could find had to be bought on board with an enormous obscene paycheck?
32 posted on 04/24/2004 5:29:45 PM PDT by Burkeman1 ("I said the government can't help you. I didn't say it couldn't hurt you." Chief Wiggam)
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To: Burkeman1
If that doesn't tell you how much of a fraud the neocons are and this war is nothing will!

The following kinda helps a little (snicker). Notice that Perle helped Democrat Schwartz of Loral who was Clinton's biggest donor. It must be a real *itch for Perle to figure out which hat he should be wearing---his neocon headgear gets limited use.

Report Finds No Violations at Pentagon by Adviser
By STEPHEN LABATON / November 15, 2003

WASHINGTON, Nov. 14 - The Pentagon's inspector general concluded this week that Richard N. Perle violated no ethics laws or rules when he was leading an influential Pentagon advisory board while at the same timerepresenting two companies in their dealings with the government.

But Mr. Perle has become the focus of an inquiry being conducted by Hollinger International, the media conglomerate, where he serves as a director. That inquiry is examining several transactions, including $2.5 million in payments made by the company to Trireme Partners, a venture capital company in which Mr. Perle is a managing partner. The inquiry is being led by Richard C. Breeden, the former chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission.

The inspector general's conclusions were in a heavily excised report dated Nov. 10 that was released on Friday by Representative John Conyers of Michigan, the ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, who requested the inquiry after reports about Mr. Perle's business dealings.

Those reports led Mr. Perle to step down last March as chairman of the Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee. The panel is a group of influential advisers that meets regularly with the defense secretary and other top officials, has access to classified information and plays an important role in shaping military policy. *Mr. Perle remains a member of the board.

"We have completed our inquiry regarding the conduct of Mr. Perle and did not substantiate allegations of misconduct," Joseph E. Schmirtz, the inspector general, wrote in a letter to Mr. Conyers that accompanied the report.

The report confirmed many of the underlying facts of the news reports and found that Mr. Perle's business dealings did not violate the ethics rules. It concluded that Mr. Perle "arguably represented" two companies in matters "pending in the department or agency of the government in which such employee is serving" and therefore in possible violation of two federal laws.

But the report said that because Mr. Perle was classified as a "special government employee" the two provisions would be violated only if he served in government for more than 60 days during the year. His job entailed only about eight days of service annually, according to the report. While he led the board, Mr. Perle advised the American satellite maker, Loral Space and Communications, as it faced government accusations that it improperly transferred rocket technology to China. He contacted the senior official at the State Department considering the Loral matter.

Mr. Perle has said he contacted the official, an assistant secretary, Lincoln P. Bloomfield Jr., to inquire about the status of license requests by Loral to deliver the satellites that had been made for China.

In another case, Mr. Perle was retained by the telecommunications company Global Crossing to help the company overcome resistance by the Defense Department to its proposed sale to a joint venture of Hutchison Whampoa, controlled by the Hong Kong billionaire Li Ka-shing, and Singapore Technologies Telemedia, a phone company controlled by the government of Singapore.

In that case, Mr. Perle and his lawyers had prepared to file an affidavit in the Global Crossing bankruptcy proceeding that said he was uniquely qualified to advise the company on the matter because of his job as head of the Defense Policy Board. But after a reporter raised questions about whether he was using his job at the policy board for the benefit of a client, Mr. Perle and his lawyers revised the affidavit.

The inspector general's report said that "on its face, the affidavit would appear to violate D.O.D. ethics regulations that prohibit the use of official position for personal gain." "However, testimony from multiple witnesses corroborated Mr. Perle's assertion that he objected to the language at issue and signed a second version of the affidavit only after being incorrectly assured that the language referring to his D.P.B.A.C. position had been removed," the report said. "Accordingly, we considered his act, while careless, an unintentional oversight."

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*Perle is no longer a member of the defense board.

33 posted on 04/24/2004 5:42:05 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Arkinsaw
Lakhdar Brahimi and the United Nations, on the other hand, have no problem at all with placing Baathists back in power.
34 posted on 04/24/2004 6:49:03 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Ayoon wa Azan (Chalabi Once Again) - Jihad Al Khazen - Al-Hayat - 2004/05/12

I knew King Hussein since 1970 and until his death; I do not recall the number of interviews I had with him, or the number of our private meetings in Amman and London, which he used to frequently visit. I asked him about Ahmad Chalabi once, so he described him in one word, adding that he did not wish to talk about him.

King Hussein forgave people that arranged coups against him, he forgave others who tried to kill him, but he died without forgiving Ahmad Chalabi for the issue of the bankruptcy of Petra Bank, which was about to cause the collapse of the Jordanian economy. The story is known; in 1989, the Jordanian forces stormed into Petra Bank, which was established in 1978, and Ahmad Chalabi ran away to Syria, and then to Europe, after being accused of stealing and wasting $300 million. He was sentenced to 22 years in prison, which is a sentence still applicable. Prior to that, Ahmad Chalabi was involved in a bank issue in UAE, and in the bankruptcy of Bank of Beirut. In London, Iraqis also repeat the stories of activities undertaken by him and one of his cousins, but I could not confirm this information.

King Abdullah II inherited his father's attitude vis-à-vis Mr. Chalabi. Instead of him trying to please the new king, and searching for a way to settle the matter, Mr. Chalabi started threatening, and creating stories about King Hussein that could not have been correct, especially in the aspects I followed back then.

Mr. Chalabi told the Washington Post that he met King Hussein four times after he left Jordan, and that the King suggested pardoning him but that he refused, because he did not believe he committed any error. He also claimed that King Hussein was about to cancel his prison sentence, but he died before doing so; he added that he had good relations with Queen Nour.

The newspaper asked people close to Queen Nour, who denied any relation between her and Chalabi. Concerning King Hussein, I talked to him about Ahmad Chalabi, and he criticized him on a day that I fully remember; I met with the king in his palace in Amman, and he was offended by Al-Hayat's articles about "trotting" towards peace with Israel. On that day, we watched a live press conference on CNN from Sharm El Sheikh, for President Hosni Mubarak and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. After my question and his brief answer, I did not feel the King was ready to forgive Ahmad Chalabi.

But Mr. Chalabi was not content with this; he lost all chances of being forgiven when his assistant repeated that he was negotiating with the Jordanian government on paying millions of dollars in compensation for his losses in Petra Bank. When the newspaper asked him about this subject, he claimed he was very angry for the leak of this information, although it was obvious that he, or his assistant, leaked this false information. I had asked the closest assistants of King Abdullah about this issue and they made fun of the entire news.

I feel that Mr. Chalabi committed two errors: the first was what he did in Petra Bank and then his attempt to get out of the plight through threats.

The Iraqi National Congress (INC), whose members entered Baghdad along with American soldiers, gathered tons of documents about the Iraqi intelligence and the various ministries. Mr. Chalabi said that he had information exposing relationships that Arab and foreign leaders, namely Americans, had with Saddam Hussein's regime. Americans have a famous proverb: "Act and shut up."

The story that Ahmad Chalabi wishes to convince the world of is that King Hussein was in need of Iraqi oil and of protecting economic relations with Saddam Hussein's regime. The Iraqi President could have thus pressured the Jordanian King to bring down an enemy that he might have considered to be dangerous.

Tamara, Ahmad Chalabi's daughter, wrote an article of the same meaning in the Wall Street Journal; she said that Saddam Hussein asked King Abdullah to attack Chalabi, because this latter contributed to the efforts, which culminated in imposing financial sanctions on Iraq.

It was supposed that, after King Hussein died without forgiving Ahmad Chalabi, this latter would try to resume the effort with King Abdullah, in order to completely close the subject. But the nature of Mr. Chalabi prevailed him; instead of asking for the forgiveness of the new King, he leaked information that king Abdullah was a friend of Udai Saddam Hussein, and that he visited him in Baghdad and had business relations with him.

King Abdullah complained to President George Bush about Mr. Chalabi, and he showed him his report. The result was that the American President isolated himself from the INC leader, who had no supporters left except Secretary of State Donald Rumsfeld and the Israeli gang of neo-conservatives.

The relations with Jordan deteriorated to the extent that Jordan's ambassador to Washington, Karim Kawar, talked about the bombing of the Jordanian embassy in Baghdad, saying: we have reasons to believe that he is involved in the accident. We are waiting for the results of the investigations but our intelligence services tell us that he might be involved.

Could Mr. Chalabi save his personal situation inside and outside Iraq? He could act in accordance with the intelligence that we all see in him, but he does not seem to be able to acknowledge his mistakes, or show enough modesty to ask for solutions.

While I do not have a preconceived stance against Mr. Chalabi, I think there are political figures in Iraq that are better than him and who do not need the Americans and their support. And if the choice were between him and King Abdullah, no one would choose him. Perhaps there is still a chance for Mr. Chalabi to ask for the assistance of advisors who are familiar with Iraq, and who could prevent him from repeating his mistakes, or committing new ones.

35 posted on 05/17/2004 2:49:47 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Jeremiah Jr; 2sheep; BearWash; happygrl; Sir Gawain

Thanks. Pinging interested parties to post 35.


36 posted on 05/17/2004 3:15:12 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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