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Kerry reaffirms rights to Receive Holy Communion Paterson, NJ Bishop Rodimer Agrees
The Record of Hackensack, aka The Bergen Record ^ | 04.24.04

Posted on 04/24/2004 10:58:04 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: Coleus
We're going to all be Muslims before long. First the Pope turns a blind eye to the priests who have been proven child molestors. Then the Episcopal church in in turmoil when a openly gay priest marries and for his efforts is named a Bishop. Now Kerry's soul isn't the business of the Church and priests and Bishops are going against the Vatican. Is it any wonder the Religion of Peace has found a new homeland?
51 posted on 04/25/2004 9:08:59 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Coleus
off Catholic Ping thanks.. too many e-mails
52 posted on 04/25/2004 9:41:27 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (What is behind and what is before is irrelevant compared to what is within)
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To: Coleus
btt
53 posted on 04/25/2004 10:00:31 AM PDT by Cacique
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To: Coleus; jmstein7; All
If Kerry shows no respect for the authority of the Catholic Church; how can Americans trust him to show respect for any another authority; for example....the U.S. Constitution?
54 posted on 04/25/2004 10:05:49 AM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: Numbers Guy
That's what makes Kerry's whole church-state rap hilarious. First, he says that while he is obedient to Church teachings in private, they should not affect his public policy. But then, he turns around and decides that obedience to Church teaching in his own spiritual life doesn't matter either, in taking Communion!

Disgraceful.
55 posted on 04/25/2004 10:27:24 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Coleus
And now Kerry speaks for the church. Maybe he would like to run for Bishop also! What a jerk this guy is.
56 posted on 04/25/2004 10:29:18 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: maryz
Then what does he do when the Paulist Center gives Kerry communion anyway? Which they will. With full press coverage.

This already happened two weeks ago, at Easter Mass.
57 posted on 04/25/2004 10:31:36 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: nickcarraway
Like, how serious was the Lord when he handed down that one? I mean, times have changed. Do you think he changed his mind on it. Certainly someone as influential as John Kerry would be given an exception by God, don't you think?
58 posted on 04/25/2004 10:32:16 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: JulieRNR21
If Kerry shows no respect for the authority of the Catholic Church; how can Americans trust him to show respect for any another authority; for example....the U.S. Constitution?

Because America's been bigoted against Catholics since before its inception? As the book title goes, it's the last acceptable prejudice.
59 posted on 04/25/2004 10:33:08 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Conservative til I die
The Seperation of Curch and State was also practiced by King Herod if I recall...
60 posted on 04/25/2004 10:37:02 AM PDT by WritableSpace
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To: gemoftheocean
Come, come, there's no need to mince words. (You really didn't, did you?)
61 posted on 04/25/2004 10:42:08 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Conservative til I die
Then what does he do when the Paulist Center gives Kerry communion anyway? Which they will. With full press coverage.

This already happened two weeks ago, at Easter Mass.

O'Malley made a general statement that pro-abort politicians who are self-styled Catholics should refrain from Communion. What I meant in my comment is what would happen if O'Malley ordered (if he can order the Paulists in that sense) that Communion was to be withheld from Kerry. The Paulists would go right on giving it, I'm sure.

62 posted on 04/25/2004 10:45:36 AM PDT by maryz
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To: BJungNan
Certainly someone as influential as John Kerry would be given an exception by God, don't you think?

Surely the ultimate "Do You know who I am?"

63 posted on 04/25/2004 10:46:43 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Coleus
Frank Rodimer.

Heretic.
64 posted on 04/25/2004 10:49:33 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod ('I went to Vietnam, yada yada yada, I want to be President...")
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To: Sareln
He called ahead to make sure there wouldn't be any problems with him taking Communion?!? Jeeze, evidence the whole thing was set up...

LOL, wouldn't want him to be embarassed during a photo op now, would we?

65 posted on 04/25/2004 10:57:43 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod ('I went to Vietnam, yada yada yada, I want to be President...")
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To: Graymatter
>> I don't remember any nuanced, flip-flopping over moral issues when I was in school.

You must be as old as I am

But if you were around five hundred years ago you might remember some flip-flopping. Remember the story about the indulgences? It wasn't the poor people buying them. It was people like Kerry and Kennedy. The church needs people like this. They've got a lot of real estate to take care of. The Cardinal's house just sold for 90+million dollars! Who bought it? Another Catholic institution. A lot of flip-flops.

66 posted on 04/25/2004 11:00:17 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: maryz
Come, come, there's no need to mince words. (You really didn't, did you?)

You should have seen the FIRST draft. ;-D Really, doesn't this idiot bishop realize that he is "teaching" whether he wants to or not? What would a person considering joining the catholic faith think of this bishop? If I were a person "searching" I'd think: "well, for all this bishop says that the Eucharist is the true presence, and people ought to be in a state of grace before they receive it and ought not to be abortion supporters, he still says it's okay for Kerry to receive, so it must not REALLY be the body and blood of Christ. If something supposedly so important can be waived for political situtations, then it mustn't have much real meaning." Move along....maybe the Jehovah's Witnesses have the answer....

I've "had it" with candy-a$$ed bishops. [Can you say "candy-a$$ed" on freerepublic?]

67 posted on 04/25/2004 12:12:29 PM PDT by gemoftheocean (Geez, this all seems so logical and straight-forward to me....)
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To: maryz
I'm in agreement with you. The Paulists would ignore the Bishop, relishing the chance to make a political statement out of the issue.
68 posted on 04/25/2004 12:42:00 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: gemoftheocean
You haven't been on FR long, but I don't know how long you've been lurking. If you did much on Catholic threads, you're probably familiar with the saying, variously attributed (to Chrystostom and others), that "The floors of Hell are paved with the skulls of bishops." I guess it's not a new problem.
69 posted on 04/25/2004 1:28:13 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Conservative til I die
relishing the chance to make a political statement out of the issue.

Probably salivating over the prospect. I suspect they were disappointed not to have the chance -- this time around anyway.

70 posted on 04/25/2004 1:29:29 PM PDT by maryz
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To: BlessedBeGod
He's probably friends with this monsignor who happens to be one of his priests.

NJ Catholic priest was so appalled by Mel Gibson's "The Passion of The Christ'' that he described the film as "religious barbarism.'' "I saw it as religious barbarism ... in my opinion, God did not send his son to die,''

The Gospel of Mel Gibson

71 posted on 04/25/2004 4:40:08 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: spyone; lainde; Homer_J_Simpson; DestroytheDemocrats; cpforlife.org; Numbers Guy; BradyLS; ...
Bishop Rodimer and Congressman Bill Pascrell, D-8, belong to the same Knights of Columbus Council and are good friends who support each other. Bill votes for abortion and against Catholic Hospitals and gets away with it every time.

NJ, Catholic, Pro-Abortion/Pro-homosexual Congressman invited to Palm Sunday Communion Breakfast

Bill Pascrell pro-life record 30%
Bill Pascrell's Homseual Rights Record, 100% Page 7
Bill Pascrell's NARAL Record, 71%, Page 12, NARAL needs to check their math
Catholic Family Association's scorecard on Bill Pascrell
NJ Voting Record Scorecard, 1999-2000, 25% pro life

72 posted on 04/25/2004 4:58:47 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus
But Frances Kissling, president of Catholics for a Free Choice, USA, said statements such as Arinze's "debase the political campaign" and would only isolate the church from its U.S. members, most of whom she said support abortion rights.....She added: "Do they really want to tell Senators (Edward) Kennedy, (Barbara) Mikulski, (Patrick) Leahy and 70 other members of the U.S. Congress that they can't receive Communion?

As a matter of fact, YES, you stupid media whore! And while we're on the subject, why don't you crawl back to whatever abortion fundraiser you came from and stop misrepresenting yourself as speaking for Catholic Americans! I am SICK TO DEATH of seeing this woman given press coverage as if she were some authority figure!

73 posted on 04/25/2004 5:10:10 PM PDT by workerbee
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To: workerbee
Has she been excommunicated?
74 posted on 04/25/2004 5:35:04 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus
Has she been excommunicated?

Yes, she did it herself, ipso facto, as a public and material Heretic.

Can. 1364 §1 An apostate from the faith, a heretic or a schismatic incurs a latae sententiae excommunication, without prejudice to the provision of Can. 194 §1, n. 2; a cleric, moreover, may be punished with the penalties mentioned in Can. 1336 §1, nn. 1, 2 and 3.

75 posted on 04/25/2004 5:59:47 PM PDT by m4629
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To: Coleus
"Bishop Rodimer and Congressman Bill Pascrell, D-8, belong to the same Knights of Columbus Council and are good friends who support each other."

Being Liberal means never having to say you're sorry. . .

Sad testimony for both Catholics.

76 posted on 04/25/2004 6:45:12 PM PDT by cricket (Terrorists are weapons of mass destruction. . .)
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To: Coleus
Having drowned Mary Jo the walrus is no paragon of virtue. and is in a good position to say that he certainly does not need to repent anything publicly. One would hope that he will have a private moment before the heart attack that is inevitable for a fatso like him, during which he asks forgiveness from God, though. However, Kennedy strikes me as one of those collection-plate Christians who figure that if they keep the clergy happy by covering the costs and providing a little extra for this or that, they can kill a person now and then, support abortion on demand. pander to homosexuality and all those sorts of things.
77 posted on 04/25/2004 7:12:23 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: Coleus
"I believe that in the year 2004, we deserve a president who understands that a stronger America is where women's rights are just that: Rights, not political weapons to be used by politicians of this nation," Kerry declared

These gutless bishops are killing me.

78 posted on 04/26/2004 7:26:35 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: garylmoore
It's just that, how can anybody vote for someone who does not follow his own beliefs?

It just occurred to me the other day.

The psychological benefit of orthodoxy is the the comfort of life after death. The "downside" is a binding moral code.

The psychological benefit of atheism is the "freedom" from morality, particularly sexual morality. The downside is annihilation after death.

Cafeteria religion offers the best of both worlds: the comfor of life after death and a moral code of your own choosing. It's the perfect religion for the it's-all-about-me crowd.

79 posted on 04/26/2004 7:34:13 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Coleus

Speaking of Bishop Rodimer, did you see this story about he covered up molestation in his parish?

http://www.dailyrecord.com/news/articles/news2-Akbishop.htm

I had heard rumors for many years about Father Tully's "befriending" of young boys, and it looks like it's finally caught up with him.


80 posted on 07/11/2004 12:53:39 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
Thanks for the link, I never heard of the man. I wonder if this case showed up in the official diocesan audit?

fyi: The High School was sold to pay for an abuse settlement and not because of lack of enrollment.

Restoring Trust
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Protecting God's Children

81 posted on 07/11/2004 1:06:53 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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