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San Marino Grand Prix -- Results, SPOILER WARNING
F1 Racing Net ^ | April 25, 2004

Posted on 04/25/2004 7:13:03 AM PDT by Elle Bee

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1 posted on 04/25/2004 7:13:03 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Elle Bee; F14 Pilot
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2 posted on 04/25/2004 7:16:49 AM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ...( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: nuconvert
I won't forget that Brazilian Driver "Ayrton Senna" who died 10 years ago on the same day in the same place!
3 posted on 04/25/2004 7:22:08 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (John ''Fedayeen" Kerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: Elle Bee; nuconvert; Howlin; Mo1; Defender2; southland; thierrya; Luis Gonzalez; Eurotwit; ...
Brazil still in thrall to the Senna legend

Thursday April 22, 2004
The Guardian

The cult of a motor racing icon remains potent 10 years after his death, reports Alex Bellos in São Paulo

In the centre of São Paulo's exclusive Morumbi cemetery lies the grave of Ayrton Senna. It is not an ornate graveyard, as one might expect in Roman Catholic Brazil, but an understated garden of remembrance where the tombs are buried under a well-tended lawn. Senna's spot is cordoned off with black-and-yellow tape and is surrounded by plants and flowers. A small Brazilian flag waves in the breeze.

Senna's grave is remarkably discreet considering the three-times world champion's position as possibly Brazil's greatest hero. Only outside the cemetery is there an inkling of the late formula one driver's status - a hut by the entrance sells Senna memorabilia, including helmets, photographs and stick-on tattoos.

"He is immortal," says Sonia Barbosa, who has run the hut since immediately after Senna died at Imola 10 years ago on May 1. "He was a simple, humble man who captivated the world."

Senna's death left a mark on the Brazilian psyche perhaps greater than any other event in the country's history. The driver is idolised in a way that is not even afforded to its most famous footballers. "Brazilians revere Senna in almost the same way that Argentina covets Carlos Gardel [the king of tango] or Evita Peron, idols enveloped with the aura of saints," wrote the news magazine Veja last week.

"Senna was the guy who people would wake up to on Sunday mornings and watch wave the Brazilian flag at a time when the country was in political crisis. He represented victorious Brazil," says the sports columnist Juca Kfouri. "But his death took unprecedented dimensions in the popular consciousness. The national trauma was so much greater because everyone saw it live on TV."

When Senna's coffin returned to São Paulo half a million people followed it through the streets. It was the beginning of Senna's sanctification.

A measure of the extent to which he was idolised is that only last week was the first serious biography written by a Brazilian published. For years no one dared demystify Senna.

Even though Senna was often a shrewd, calculating and aggressive driver, he is revered as an honest and hardworking winner in the European mould. Unlike Brazil's footballers, who perform in their own playful, tricksy way, Senna is considered to have beaten the first world at its own game.

But, while Senna's memory is put on a pedestal, his image is so ubiquitous in Brazilian life that he is virtually impossible to ignore. Throughout Brazil, streets, garages, schools and shops are named after him. And not just small culs-de-sac. The motorway into São Paulo from the airport bears his name, as does one of Rio de Janeiro's main arteries.

The brand Senna - and the spin-offs Senninha, a children's cartoon character, and Senninha Baby - are thriving, earning about £2m in royalties every year. More than 100,000 Brazilians have a Senna credit card which earns them points to buy Senna merchandise as well as contributing to the Ayrton Senna Institute, which strives to improve education in Brazil.

Adriane Galisteu, Senna's girlfriend when he died, has become a popular media figure and presents an evening chat show on one of the main television channels.

Senna launched Senninha shortly before he died. Rather than retiring him after Imola, Senninha has grown from strength to strength and now rivals Mickey Mouse in the hearts of young Brazilians, even those born years after Senna died.

Senninha is a boy who lives with a community of friends by a race track. Rather than playing football he races a go-kart. Senninha has all the qualities that celebrate Senna; he is simple, honest, hardworking and, above all, a winner.

There are more than 200 Senninha products, including books, shoes, cosmetics and foodstuffs. TAM, Brazil's second airline, is developing an in-flight safety video using the character. You can even buy Senninha Baby nappies.

"Senninha has broken through the barrier of Senna. He survives independently," says Rodrigo Silveira, marketing director of Senna brands. "Young people don't understand the feeling that my generation have for Ayrton. But they still want to buy Senninha products."

For grown-ups there is an ever expanding line of Senna luxury goods. The range includes sunglasses, jet boats and, launched last week, a 31ft Senna yacht. There are plans for Senna helicopters.

The demand for products around the world - especially in Japan - is such that annual limited-edition TAG-Heuer watches with the Senna S2 logo sell out almost immediately - even though, at $3,000 (£1,700), they are about 10% more expensive than the equivalent non-Senna watches.

According to Silveira, the earnings from Senna brands and merchandise are growing by 12-15% each year. The royalties are channelled into the Ayrton Senna Institute, run by his older sister Viviane.

The institute focuses on education because shortly before Senna died he told Viviane that he wanted to do something for Brazilian children. She set up the institute a few months after his death and it has grown so fast that it has now reached some four million Brazilian children. Viviane is one of Brazil's most high-profile women and, when President Lula da Silva was elected in 2002, it was reported that he wanted to make her a government minister.

Of the many projects that the institute has pioneered several use the iconography of Senna and motor racing metaphors. Accelerate Brazil, for one, is a programme to stop school pupils repeating years and has been adopted as part of four state governments' education policies. Other projects deal with illiteracy, computers, sport and art.

Margareth Goldenberg, who coordinates the social projects, says: "For a long time all the characteristics of Brazil's heroes were that they were crafty and sly. Ayrton was the opposite. He said you win with honesty, perseverance and hard work. This is what we try to pass to the kids. Ayrton was a symbol of how to do things properly."

Senna by numbers:

3 The formula one world championships he won - 1998, 1990 and 1991

4 The age Senna first sat in the cockpit of a go-kart, built by his father for his birthday

8 The pole positions the Brazilian won at Imola between 1985 and 1994, with three race victories

18 The minutes into the race that Senna crashed at Imola on May 1 1994

22 The Brazil footballers who dedicated their 1994 World Cup success to Senna

41 The grands prix he won

200 The different Senninha products - ranging from books to cosmetics, nappies, above, to T-shirts, below

381 The pages in the report written by the Italian judge who blamed the fatal crash on the failure of the steering column of Senna's Williams. The six defendants were cleared of manslaughter

55 The thousands of dollars a buyer paid for the nose cone of Senna's 1987 Lotus

13 The age at which he lost his virginity and the inches shorter he was than his companion

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/formulaone/comment/0,10070,1200254,00.html
4 posted on 04/25/2004 7:26:56 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (John ''Fedayeen" Kerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: Elle Bee
Eurotrash racing! The really good stuff will be later this afternoon when the NASCAR boys get it on.
6 posted on 04/25/2004 7:38:34 AM PDT by Arkie2
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To: Andy from Beaverton
Umm, doesn't Schumacher win *every* race?

Lol, how could you be surprised at this?

Is there any suspense in F1 racing at all?
8 posted on 04/25/2004 7:51:13 AM PDT by Guillermo ("Oh yeah? Well if you do it again, I'm gonna have only one word for you: 'Outta here.'" - Paul Sr.)
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To: Arkie2
NO ..... Formula 1 is where the toys they play with in NASCAR are developed

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9 posted on 04/25/2004 8:06:58 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Andy from Beaverton
Thanks a freaking lot!!!! I was just going to watch it after I woke up at [4:30] to record it. Next time don't put the [adjective] winner in the headline!

Agreed!

10 posted on 04/25/2004 8:11:29 AM PDT by solitas (sometimes I lay awake at night looking up at the stars wondering where the heck did the ceiling go?)
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To: Reo
Montoya is reall classless ... he was concered about the 40 mph bump he got tring to pass Schumacher in the first turn and forgot about putting his team mate into thgrass at 140 mph

he's short and classless and a complete contrast to the ever gracious and poised Schumacher who drove another masterful race

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11 posted on 04/25/2004 8:12:21 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: solitas
I get up and watch the thing at whatever hour .... and the qualifing the day before

If you watch the race live you can also watch the real time telemetry on the site linked below the article

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12 posted on 04/25/2004 8:15:09 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Guillermo
Umm, doesn't Schumacher win *every* race?
NO

Lol, how could you be surprised at this?
Because Button had the pole and Honda is strong now. JPM will do everything he can to get ahead of MS including crashing into him.

Is there any suspense in F1 racing at all?
Yes, there is the race for second.

13 posted on 04/25/2004 8:20:08 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: Elle Bee
Well, if I'm not up to watch it, I _always_ tape the live broadcast - there have been noticeable differences in the replayed broadcasts (go ahead: count the commercials). Luckily, I'd just finished watching the tape (after coming back from Church), so it didn't affect me this time; but on occasion it does.

Suggestion: so close to the end of the race (and considering, maybe, the desire to 'scoop' everyone else in making the posting?) it would be better to give it a neutral title and add "SPOILER" to warn people? I've seen that done with movies on this site and it seems to work well enough; judging from the lack of complaints about being 'tipped off' before they'd seen it...
15 posted on 04/25/2004 8:32:25 AM PDT by solitas (sometimes I lay awake at night looking up at the stars wondering where the heck did the ceiling go?)
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To: Andy from Beaverton
I also agree!

Please don't post race results in the headline. Since this race was live at 5:30 am MST, some of us have to watch it on tape delay.

And if we refuse to support Cable/ Satellite TV, we don't have the option of getting up early or taping at 5:30AM...we have to go somewhere in the evening to watch the tape delay rerun.

I think putting " Spoiler" in the headline is much better way to alert those of us who have to watch to the race on tape delay. Then someone can either read or skip the post.

This way the race is ruined for any F1 fan by a thoughtless headline on a what should have been a 'safe' site.

I certainly thought that I could read FreeRepublic and not have the race spoiled.

Formula One has become boring enough with the mega corporate involvement, and the politics and lack of competition that blatant commercialism brings.
16 posted on 04/25/2004 8:37:05 AM PDT by magic2626
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To: Elle Bee
LOL! I knew there was a formula one chain out there to be yanked! Open wheel racing of any kind is boring.
17 posted on 04/25/2004 8:58:53 AM PDT by Arkie2
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To: Elle Bee
Don't drink the kool-aid. Schumacher has made HIS share of snide, snotty comments when he's finished badly or bombed-out of races too. They don't come across well in the English-speaking media (unless it's a live comment at a race) but I have German-speaking friends who've read/heard native-language interviews and they say he's as poor-mouthed as the rest of them.

Also, many (national) Germans frown upon his antics/waving/laughing/pointing during their national anthem while the 2nd and 3rd finishers by-and-large stand quietly/respectfully for BOTH anthems (but, thanks to German nazionalism, this never 'makes the papers'). Italians have noticed it during the constructor's anthem too and I've heard a rumor that Ferrari has gigged him a couple of times about this.

18 posted on 04/25/2004 9:01:28 AM PDT by solitas (sometimes I lay awake at night looking up at the stars wondering where the heck did the ceiling go?)
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To: Andy from Beaverton
And you seem to be in love with the F word. Who's worse, some guy who says "you know" or some hothead who can't keep from profanity to make a point?
19 posted on 04/25/2004 9:01:31 AM PDT by Arkie2
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To: Arkie2
If we didn't have fools who post results in headlines we wouldn't be having this conversation. It is an unwritten rule at FR not to post outcomes from TVs shows that have not been seen both by coasts yet. I've seen this same argument time and time again from beauty pageants to auto racing. You must think about other people besides yourself when posting. I'm F'N pissed because I know the outcome of something I'm watching on tape. I almost watch it live every time but I've been working my butt off and I'm tired. Now something that I really looked forward to is spoiled. Get a clue, wouldn't you be a little pissed off? I'm using swear words because people don't think before posting.
20 posted on 04/25/2004 9:08:36 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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