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Teen, shot while cleaning rifle, advocates gun locks
Orlando Sentinel ^ | April 24, 2004 | Lavanya Ramanathan and Keith W. Kohn

Posted on 04/25/2004 7:45:05 PM PDT by Gun142

Teen, shot while cleaning rifle, advocates gun locks

By Lavanya Ramanathan and Keith W. Kohn | Sentinel Staff Writers
Posted April 24, 2004


An Osceola County teen who narrowly escaped tragedy this week wished Friday that the rifle he and a friend were cleaning had been equipped with a gun-safety device that's being dispensed all over Florida.

Quentin Jones, 14, was nursing a wound in his shoulder caused by a .22-caliber bullet that went "under my armpit and through my fatty tissue" after the gun discharged accidentally.

Had the rifle's angle been slightly different, Quentin said, he could have been seriously hurt. His mother, Beverly Jones, called it a "lucky learning experience" for her son. "It could have been a big deal," Jones said.

Central Florida law-enforcement agencies trying to halt such accidental shootings, which killed more than 100 Florida youths in a 10-year period, are joining an aggressive push to distribute 655,000 gun locks statewide.

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Article basically goes on to say how gun locks are true miracles:
"If a gun lock's on it, that would be an answer to everything," the longtime deputy said.
No, it wouldn't, moron. Real safety education (Eddie Eagle) and even some experience to reduce a kid's curiosity of firearms is a good answer.
Respect and [self] discipline rooted with fair parenting is another.

/mini-rant
1 posted on 04/25/2004 7:45:06 PM PDT by Gun142
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To: Gun142
Unloading a weapon prior to cleaning it is a pretty good idea as well.
2 posted on 04/25/2004 7:46:23 PM PDT by DiscoStu1979 (Disco Stu Likes Disco Music)
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To: DiscoStu1979
Note to teen, unload gun prior to cleaning.
3 posted on 04/25/2004 7:47:37 PM PDT by annyokie (There are two sides to every argument, but I'm too busy to listen to yours.)
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To: DiscoStu1979
Not pointing the business end toward yourself is another helpful household hint.
4 posted on 04/25/2004 7:49:14 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Gun142
His mother, Beverly Jones, called it a "lucky learning experience" for her son. "It could have been a big deal," Jones said.

Yup. Methinks he'll remember next time to be more careful.

5 posted on 04/25/2004 7:50:02 PM PDT by FourPeas (We can't all be heroes because someone has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by. - Will Rogers)
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To: Gun142
You have to PAY to read that crappy paper online now? Bwahahaha!
6 posted on 04/25/2004 7:50:02 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Gun142
Near Darwin award winner.
7 posted on 04/25/2004 7:50:42 PM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: Gun142
If he's too absent minded to unload the gun before handling it, then he's to absent minded to put the lock on. Always, always check that the gun is unloaded when you pick it up
8 posted on 04/25/2004 7:51:07 PM PDT by ampat (to)
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To: hellinahandcart
http://www.bugmenot.com/
9 posted on 04/25/2004 7:53:32 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Gun142
An Osceola County teen who narrowly escaped tragedy this week wished Friday that the rifle he and a friend were cleaning had been unloaded.
10 posted on 04/25/2004 7:53:36 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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To: DiscoStu1979
I double check my guns before leaving the range or field when hunting. I check again before they go in the safe. Always checked before cleaning too.
I've never failed.

Many thanks to Dad! for pounding the basic safety rules into my head from early on.

As he says - "Safety pays for happy days".
11 posted on 04/25/2004 7:55:06 PM PDT by Gun142 (Where Will You Be When You Get Where You're Going? -- Jerry Clower)
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To: Gun142
You clean a rifle with the breach closed, shoot yourself, and then want to put locks on all guns? You're a moron sir.
12 posted on 04/25/2004 7:56:15 PM PDT by Vision (Always Faithful)
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To: ampat
Yep, at least two gun rules broken maybe more. Check to see if weapon is unloaded weapon before cleaning. Do not point the business end at anyone including yourself. I don't know the circumstances involved but it should have been unloaded after the last shoot and checked again before being put away. Parley
13 posted on 04/25/2004 7:56:25 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Gun142
"If a gun lock's on it, that would be an answer to everything," the longtime deputy said.

Just darn! Is Barney still serving?

14 posted on 04/25/2004 7:57:00 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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To: Gun142
What a maroon.
15 posted on 04/25/2004 7:57:58 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Gun142
The only gun infraction I've ever had in my lifetime was deliberate and commited at the age of 19.

Since then, every weapon I've picked up was empty, or soon so. No muzzle under my contol has ever crossed the face, body or person of anyone in visible range.

I am one of many. I am the NRA.
16 posted on 04/25/2004 8:00:33 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (So what are you expecting from NPR - the truth?)
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To: Gun142
Stupid is as stupid does.
17 posted on 04/25/2004 8:00:40 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: Gun142
An Osceola County teen who narrowly escaped tragedy this week wished Friday that the rifle he and a friend were cleaning had been equipped with a gun-safety device that's being dispensed all over Florida.

It might have been avoided entirely if he and his friend stopped shooting the s**t and paid attention to what they were doing.

18 posted on 04/25/2004 8:01:23 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Gun142
So this bozo who is cleaning a loaded weapon and manages to shoot himself is advocating gun locks and we're supposed to take everything he says seriously? Heck, if you advocate gun locks, why choose that nimrod as a spokesman?
19 posted on 04/25/2004 8:03:17 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (He says "Bring it on!!" Then when you do, he says, "How dare you!! ")
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To: hellinahandcart
You have to PAY to read that crappy paper online now?

My mistake, should have posted that you need to register to read articles there. It's free after you submit your fake name and fake address with an old Yahoo email account.
20 posted on 04/25/2004 8:03:51 PM PDT by Gun142 (Where Will You Be When You Get Where You're Going? -- Jerry Clower)
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To: Gun142
A gun lock is not idiot proof.
21 posted on 04/25/2004 8:04:05 PM PDT by taxcontrol (People are entitled to their opinion - no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: Gun142
How do you clean a gun with a gun lock on it?????

This kid is basically a moron. Ammunition should not be anywhere close when cleaning a firearm. Clear all guns when you first pick 'em up.

22 posted on 04/25/2004 8:04:55 PM PDT by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment)
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To: Gun142
Change the title to "Stupid kid fails to check that gun is empty before trying to clean it", and it would be more accurate.
23 posted on 04/25/2004 8:06:31 PM PDT by Chewbacca (I think I will stay single. Getting married is just so 'gay'.)
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To: Gun142
Many thanks to Dad! for pounding the basic safety rules into my head from early on.

For me it was my drill instructor.

Also not a bad idea to have someone else check the weapon as well.

24 posted on 04/25/2004 8:08:35 PM PDT by DiscoStu1979 (Disco Stu Likes Disco Music)
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To: Gun142
This sort of thing amazes me. I know, for life-and-death sure, the chamber state of every weapon I have ever owned at all times, for the duration of the time that I have owned them. It is an ENORMOUS responsibility- one lapse equals somebody's shattered head.

With that in mind, ALL weapons are treated as if they are loaded, at ALL times.
25 posted on 04/25/2004 8:11:43 PM PDT by Riley
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To: clee1
I think the Darwin Theory as it applies to stupid humans has a serious flaw. Most of them live long enough to procreate. Although many times it’s not long enough to actually provide for their offspring.
26 posted on 04/25/2004 8:13:33 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Gun142; All
This kid was not "cleaning his gun". He's lying. They were screwing around and he either goofed up good or more likely the buddy did it and they are coming up with a cover story.

But he does qualify as a Cleland Trophy candidate.

PS If he was cleaning his gun then why didn't he have a cleaning rod stuck in him? :}

27 posted on 04/25/2004 8:14:27 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: gc4nra
How do you clean a gun with a gun lock on it?????

That's what I wondered. I shoot revolvers mostly, just can't see how that would work out to clean it properly.

What do I know? I've never used a gun lock.
I don't trust the safety on a gun, I don't use them either.... even when hunting. (The guns I generally use allow me to do that easily.)
28 posted on 04/25/2004 8:14:45 PM PDT by Gun142 (Where Will You Be When You Get Where You're Going? -- Jerry Clower)
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To: Rockpile
This kid was not "cleaning his gun". He's lying. They were screwing around and he either goofed up good or more likely the buddy did it and they are coming up with a cover story.

You're probably right.

29 posted on 04/25/2004 8:15:30 PM PDT by Riley
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To: Rockpile
Ya....I was "cleaning it" when I shot a hole in the ceiling of my apartment when I was 19 with an S&W.357 Mag.

I'm lucky I didn't blow my head off.

30 posted on 04/25/2004 8:18:48 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Gun142
What sort of gun safety/proficiency training have these MORONS received? I've never heard of cleaning any 22 caliber rifle with the action closed. If the action is open it is not only possible to clean the barrel, chamber and action BUT also, the gun cannot discharge... assuming a round was actually in the chamber.

This sort of press gives competent sportsman with generations of gun ownership in the family; a black eye without deserving it.
31 posted on 04/25/2004 8:19:09 PM PDT by phxsparks
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To: Gun142
"What do I know? I've never used a gun lock. I don't trust the safety on a gun, I don't use them either.... even when hunting.

Bingo! Words of wisdom bear repeating. Makes you wonder what the frontiersman did to keep from shooting themselves, absent modern safety features on their muzzleloaders? Perhaps common sense?

32 posted on 04/25/2004 8:25:52 PM PDT by semaj ("....by their fruit you will know them.")
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To: Gun142
Go immediately to http://bugmenot.com/
33 posted on 04/25/2004 8:28:14 PM PDT by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
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To: Psycho_Bunny
You ain't the only one. For example, I shot a divot out of the yard--30-30 size-- many moons ago as a Young Halfwit. At least it was pointed into the ground. Instead of an AD I prefer to think of it as a DA---as in DumbAss.
34 posted on 04/25/2004 8:36:32 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: Red Dog #1
Agreed:

All too often, they stick around just long enough to p*ss in the gene pool.

That said, however, I think we can be confident that this fellow will go on to do something else equally stupid.

35 posted on 04/25/2004 8:40:26 PM PDT by epigone73
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To: semaj
Some people freak out when I tell them I do not use the gun's safety.
For deer, I use a revolver or muzzleloader. (usually the muzzleloader) It's real easy to open the cylinder of the handgun. I carry a speedloader in case I would dump the shells. The ML, I use half-cock sometimes and other times I remove the cap. Use musket caps for easier handling.
For squirrel and rabbit, I use break open\hinge action guns.

I keep it simple and don't take risks.
Managed to stay out of the headlines that way.
36 posted on 04/25/2004 8:43:45 PM PDT by Gun142 (Where Will You Be When You Get Where You're Going? -- Jerry Clower)
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To: Gun142
How about a little common sense....duh....

WHat sort of stupid idiot "cleans" a rifle with it loaded? The obvious fact is - you can't completely clean a firearm with it loaded anyway.

You know - if an idiot it too dumb to not play on a busy interstate highway and get's run over - it's hard to be sypathetic. The same goes for anyone who handles a firearm in such an unsafe manner -----
37 posted on 04/26/2004 5:20:32 AM PDT by TheBattman (Leadership = http://www.georgewbush.com/)
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To: Gun142
An Osceola County teen who narrowly escaped tragedy this week wished Friday that the rifle he and a friend were cleaning had been equipped with a gun-safety device that's being dispensed all over Florida.

Florida voter in training. He'll be old enough to vote for Hillary! in 2008.

(But he'll probably vote for Buchanan by accident anyway. Then he'll call for voting machine locks.)

38 posted on 04/26/2004 5:28:15 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Gun142
"... and through my fatty tissue"

No matter how many times I read this it comes out "teen shoots self in head".

39 posted on 04/26/2004 5:33:21 AM PDT by LTCJ (Gridlock '05 - the Lesser of Three Evils.)
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To: Gun142
When are we going to make moron locks mandatory?? If this moron had been equipped with a safety lock, he wouldn't have been able to move or use his hands, and there would have been no shooting.
40 posted on 04/26/2004 5:45:58 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Gun142
...the .22-caliber bullet that went "through my fatty tissue" after the gun discharged accidentally...

Head wound, huh?

41 posted on 04/26/2004 5:47:25 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Gun142
A gun can be made idiot-resistant, but it can't be made fool-proof.
42 posted on 04/26/2004 5:47:37 AM PDT by RonF
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To: Gun142
"Teen Dumbass, shot while cleaning rifle, advocates gun locks"
43 posted on 04/26/2004 5:49:05 AM PDT by verity (A Vote for Kerry is a vote for National Suicide!)
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To: Gun142
I think there's some humor here based on This is my rifle and this is my gun...

What would a gun lock be, a picture of hillary?

44 posted on 04/26/2004 5:56:33 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Oztrich Boy
And a gun lock would have prevented this dumbass from shooting himself?

Safety Rule No 1.
TREAT EVERY WEAPON AS IF IT WERE LOADED MORON!!!!!!!!!!!
45 posted on 04/26/2004 6:04:40 AM PDT by sean327 (9-1-1: Government Sponsored Dial-A-Prayer.)
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To: fso301
a picture of hillary?

No, that's birth control.
Her image stops a man cold.
46 posted on 04/26/2004 6:09:47 AM PDT by Gun142 (Where Will You Be When You Get Where You're Going? -- Jerry Clower)
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To: DiscoStu1979
Unloading a weapon prior to cleaning it is a pretty good idea as well.

And having a trigger lock on a loaded weapon isn't a great idea, either. Was he going to clean it with the lock on--"Oops, the rod won't go through, let me look in this end to see what's wrong?"

47 posted on 04/26/2004 6:12:00 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Gun142
Note to sh!t-for-brains teen: clear the weapon and make sure it's unloaded. And don't point it yourself while pulling the trigger, moron.
48 posted on 04/26/2004 6:14:10 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm ( )
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To: RonF
The nice thing about gun locks is that you never have to unload your weapons while storing them and you never have to worry about where you point them. With a gun lock, a gun is perfectly safe and you can leave it in the baby's crib.

< /sarc>
49 posted on 04/26/2004 6:16:32 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Gun142
The title should be changed to:

Retard cleaning loaded gun bitches and moans
50 posted on 04/26/2004 6:20:27 AM PDT by Conservomax (shill: One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into part)
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