Mosque At Center Of Al-Fallujah Fighting

Radio Free Europe ^ | Monday, 26 April 2004

[demlosers]

26 April 2004 -- Intense fighting erupted in Iraq today at a mosque in Al-Fallujah, resulting in the death of one U.S. soldier and eight insurgents.

U.S. Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt said eight coalition soldiers were injured in the fighting, which erupted after militants fired on coalition troops from inside the mosque. He said the mosque was damaged during the ensuing response.

"The coalition forces became pinned down by the enemy fire and requested additional support," Kimmitt said. "A quick reaction force which included air and tank support arrived at the scene and directed suppressing fire on the mosque, killing eight enemy fighters and damaging the infrastructure of the mosque."

In Baghdad, two U.S. soldiers were killed and five wounded when an explosion leveled part of a building during a search for suspicious chemicals.

In Al-Najaf, some 200 U.S. troops rolled into a base some 6 kilometers from the city's holy Shi'ite shrines to replace withdrawing Spanish troops.

Iraq's top U.S. administrator, L. Paul Bremer, said today that weapons were being stockpiled in mosques, shrines, and schools in Al-Najaf, and warned that the coalition will not "tolerate the situation."

In other developments, the Dubai-based Al-Arabiya television station broadcast footage of three Italians held captive in Iraq.

Their captors said the hostages will be executed in five days if Italians do not protest Italy's involvement in Iraq.

(Reuters/AFP/dpa/AP/RFE)

[Iron Matron]

The entire ME hates us anyway, so why dont we just blow the darn thing up?

If they can use a mosque as a fort and show their religion disrespect, than we should follow their lead.

Of course, the generals (or someone) is way too PC for that. Furthermore, this iraq governing council is not supposed to get recognized until 6-30, so why are we letting them continue their stupid cease fire?

KILL these insurgents, moletsers of dead bodies, children and women.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Iraq today at a mosque in Al-Fallujah, resulting in the death of one U.S. soldier and eight insurgents. U.S. Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt said eight coalition soldiers were injured in the fighting, which erupted after militants fired on coalition troops from inside the mosque. He said the mosque was damaged during the ensuing response.

Uh oh, were in trouble now. We better hurry up and fix the damage.

[dalebert]

I don't think this is a normal cease fire. Our guys seem to be doing a pretty good job of picking off the enemy.

[facedown]

Iraq's top U.S. administrator, L. Paul Bremer, said today that weapons were being stockpiled in mosques, shrines, and schools in Al-Najaf, and warned that the coalition will not "tolerate the situation."

BLOW THEM UP!!!

[kesg]

You mean, we actually damaged a mosque? Oh no! What are we going to do??

[Joe Hadenuf]

BLOW THEM UP!!!

I have a sneaky hunch that isn't going to happen.

[Iron Matron]

"Our guys seem to be doing a pretty good job of picking off the enemy"

As long as they are allowed to be what they are: THE BEST SOLDIERS IN THE WORLD, then they will pick them off. I just want to be assured that we can kill when it is wise to do so.

[prion]

Their captors said the hostages will be executed in five days if Italians do not protest Italy's involvement in Iraq.

What a very bizarre demand. They want a protest? Like, a street demonstration? And that'll satisfy them?

What's up with that?

[Swanks]

John Loftus came as close as possible calling Bremer an asshole, leaving the 'hole' part trail off the other night. I'll finish it for him: Bush, Rumsfeld, and Bremer are all assholes for their handling of this mess.

Within 1 year of their 'liberation' we have Iraqi citizens celebrating in the streets each time our guys, gear take a hit. We're more-and-more sitting ducks; taking fire from 'friend' and foe alike; while wanna-be Generals play the chess game with our troops.

[freedom9]

"If they can use a mosque as a fort and show their religion disrespect, than we should follow their lead.

Take it down and then hand them this scripture

Judges 6:31

And Joash said unto all that stood against him, Will ye plead for Baal? will ye save him? he that will plead for him, let him be put to death whilst it is yet morning: if he be a god, let him plead for himself, because one hath cast down his altar.

[cardinal4]

Id hate to see the Vatican targeted, but then again, the Pope or his flock never used it as a base to murder soldiers, either.

[sheik yerbouty]

The new muezzin...

[Iron Matron]

Judges 6:31


Speaks for itself. Yes. And Amen.

[Iron Matron]

John Loftus came as close as possible calling Bremer an asshole, leaving the 'hole' part trail off the other night. I'll finish it for him: Bush, Rumsfeld, and Bremer are all assholes for their handling of this mess.
Within 1 year of their 'liberation' we have Iraqi citizens celebrating in the streets each time our guys, gear take a hit. We're more-and-more sitting ducks; taking fire from 'friend' and foe alike; while wanna-be Generals play the chess game with our troops.

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You know, I dont usually cotton to those who bad-mouth GWB, but I dont think thats what you are doing. You know what else? I AGREE 100%

I want to see blood, I want to see dead iraqis, if some innocents die, they should have run faster. These pig-bellys are lauging at us and killing our men - being allowed to do so by the "Generals on the Ground".

Well GW, you ARE their Boss, lets stop this PC K--P, and KILL THE BASTAR_S

[ken5050]

We've developed special, top secret, anti-mosque weapons. They're called....tada.....Mosque-itos"

[RetiredArmy]

The new name for this place should be: Mosque-No-More

[So Cal Rocket]

Penhaul: Fallujah scene of intense gunbattles

FALLUJAH, Iraq (CNN) -- U.S. Marines, backed by helicopter gunships and fighter jets, engaged in a raging firefight Monday with insurgents in Fallujah, a stronghold of resistance to the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq.

CNN's Karl Penhaul described the scene Monday for the U.S. networks pool.

PENHAUL: Sporadic gunfire can still be heard echoing across this northwest corner of the city of Fallujah.

It was a very different picture though this morning and early afternoon because the area just behind me was the scene of some very intense gunbattles.

The Marines say [it was] one of the most intense gunbattles that they have had in the two or three weeks that the supposed cease-fire has been in place here in Fallujah.

Before dawn, the U.S. networks pool headed out with a Marine platoon. ...

The Marines went and occupied two buildings. They were occupying those so that they could look out for suspected Iraqi insurgents.

Snipers posed some positions on the other side and deeper into the city. They holed up in those buildings for about four or five hours. Then in the words of one Marine, "All hell broke loose."

Iraqi insurgents had massed around the two buildings occupied by Marines, and they opened fire with mortars, with rockets, with automatic weapons fire.

While we were inside that building, we saw rockets smashing into the sides of the buildings, rockets smashing through the windows.

We heard mortar rounds landing nearby, exploding and setting neighboring buildings on fire.

After about an hour and a half, the Marine commander gave the order for his troops to pull back, and that they did with the help of two U.S. tanks that were also called in to assist.

The Marines withdrew from two alleys and returned to one section of their base.

The firefight, though, continued for a good two hours after that. [There were] very heavy exchanges of gunfire; U.S. Marine Cobra attack helicopters were called in.

They were firing off missiles, and also we're told a mortar platoon from further back in the rear was firing off 8-millimeter mortars, and those impacted in a number of buildings behind us, setting them on fire and sending plumes of black smoke into the air.

Also, there was a mosque ... here; it had a minaret 50 to 60 feet high. Marine commanders say they were taking sniper fire from that minaret.

That minaret has now been leveled by U.S. military ordnance, missiles and mortars. There's nothing left at all of that minaret. ...

[broadsword]

Let's get the Muzanderthal terminology straight, once and for all:

Mosque = Terrorist Barracks

Red Crescent Ambulance = Munitions Supply Truck

Radical Muslim = REAL Muslim who follows the Koran

Moderate Muslim = A Trojan horse who quietly smiles and nods his head at the terrorists

Koran = a call to terror, murder, oppression, slavery, misogyny and backward culture

Infidel = all non Muslims and Muslims who are not on jihad (all doomed to die)

Holy Lands = all lands unfortunate enough to be or ever have been under the heavy yoke of Muslim terror, murder, oppression, slavery, misogyny

Islamic Pride = an insanely jealous hatred for every other culture that has left Islam groveling in its own seventh-century dust.

CAIR = Crying Arabic Islamic Retrogrades

Minaret = Satan's jukebox - or - Howling Hell Tower

Burkha = Misogynistic Mobile Women's Prison

Muslim Chaplin (U.S. Armed Forces) = Turncoat Brigade Recruiter

Rape = something the guys get to do, especially to those hottie infidel chicks! (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)

Modern Technology = "Huh? Oh yes, that stuff the evil infidels make and maintain for us to use and kill them."

Allah = the Moon God, whose most important representative here on earth is that meteorite worshiped in Mecca

Little Boys = a man's pleasure machines

Paradise = a giant rape orgy for you - if you die while ruthlessly murdering innocent unsuspecting infidel women and children

U.S. Armed Forces = things to run away from or kill with booby-traps, unless you can take a cheap shot at them and then hide behind women and children or hide in a Mosque.

Christian Church = firewood

Synagogue = firewood

Buddhist Temple = firewood

Hindu Temple = firewood

Confucian Church = firewood

Jewish Restaurant = Bomb Demolition Depot firewood

Liberalism = the smell of Islamic victory in the morning

President John Kerry = Eeeewwww! (Shudder!) The Islamonazi’s great white hope!

[Enduring Freedom]

Because we provide incentives for hiding terrorists and weapons in schools, mosques, ambulances, hospitals, we are SHOCKED AND AMAZED that the Iraqis do so.

What manner and form of moron, this Bremer?

Who cares about mosques?

Level the town and save American soldiers.

No one left in that town deserves to live.

[broadsword]

Liberalism is the AIDS virus that thwarts our defense from the world-wide plague of Islam.

[Steve_Seattle]

The Iraqis can't object to us removing pigs from mosques, can they?

[Sender]

Mosquitos...mosques. Two things that take our blood and we're always swatting at.

[TheLion]

You are so right. The Iraqi's don't respect their own religion,....why should we. They think we are weak and/or stupid for not going after them in the mosques. Blow a few up and maybe they will re-think the use of them.

[DCPatriot]

Remember the movie The Patriot.

Remember the British officer that gave the orders to burn people alive inside a church.

A lot of Muslims are going to associate us with that British officer....wrong-minded as they are.

[get'emall]

I have felt for some time that we should treat Islam as a "Hate Group," to use the liberal vernacular. Why we give them legitimacy by pretending they are a civilized religion is beyond me. Once we make that distinction, the entire decision-model changes.

[Hop A Long Cassidy]

Mosque-itos bump!

That's a good one.

Maybe when our troops are taking fire from a Mosque the minaret is the first to go.

That would then be "crunchy on the outside and gooey inside."

Hoppy

[TheLion]

You have a point but fighting a pc war will cost us many more casualties.

[river rat]

Why do we go to Mosques to kill terrorists...
"Cause that's where the money's terrorists at."
(Willy Sutton II)

Semper Fi

[DCPatriot]

Heck, I wanted the city destroyed yesterday!

[TheLion]

A few bunker busters would help evacuate the place!

[river rat]

"Remember the British officer that gave the orders to burn people alive inside a church.

Your example is illogical and inappropriate...

In the film - the British marched the unarmed CIVILIANS into the church and murdered them in cold blood. In Iraq - the armed and aggressive terrorists are TAKING COVER within the Mosque...and firing on the coalition forces.

They should be attacked, and any building they seek cover in -- dropped on their evil heads...

Semper Fi

[sauropod]

Good dictionary.

[DCPatriot]

But that's not how their history will tell it.

They were fighting the Evil Empire and we disrespected their hallowed mosques, killing their fathers and uncles and brothers and husbands and children.

They will leave out the part where they fired upon us first.

[NaughtiusMaximus]

I'm getting darn sick and tired of these "holy" cities. This expression just knee-jerks the media. We can't just talk about "Poot Tweet,"; Oh, no. It's "The Holy City of Poot Tweet," "The Sacred Main Street of Poot Tweet."

Well, I just want to say that there's nothing sacred about Poot Tweet/Najaf by my reckoning. Like the rest of the "holy cities", I've seen pictures of for the last year, it looks like the inside of a catbox and probably smells a whole lot worse.

A modest proposal: Let's call Baghdad "Orc Camp #1", Falujah "Orc Camp #2", Najaf "Orc Camp #3" and so on as needed. The only thing which makes one holier than the other is the number of bomb craters. That said, it sounds like Orc Camp #2 is getting to be a really holy place.

[DCPatriot]

I'm in agreement with you. I was just playing devil's advocate.

[MamaLucci]

Perhaps the Mosques are where the WMD's are hidden.

[Rome2000]

Outstanding work

[Brad's Gramma]

UNASHAMED plea for help for our wounded soldiers

[KC_for_Freedom]

A lot of Muslims are going to associate us with that British officer....wrong-minded as they are.

Yes, but not really any more than hate us already. There are many more who will say, Oh Sh*t, we can't hideout in mosques any more. And there are even some Islamic who will stand against the use of mosques as a hideout. So all in all, the net may be OK for our guys.

[Doc On The Bay]

There is NO "First Amendment" in the ME; Snatch those "Al-Jazzeera Thugs," Question Down to the Molecular Level, & Find & Rescue Western Hostages (Hopefully at GREAT COST to the "Quasi-Islamic THUGS" Threatening Them!)

The Barbarians NEED TO UNDERSTAND that "Civilized" & "Soft" are NOT synonymous.

"Al-Jazeera, et.al., SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, "Fair Game."

The "Islamic Media" is CLEARLY Complicit in the "War on the West," & Should be Regarded as "Combatants."

It's PAST TIME to Counter the Blatant Lies of the "ME Media," & Give the People a TRUE & Balanced accounting of Their World.

For FAR TOO LONG, the People in the Middle East have been fed a Fantasy.

No One can expect to exist in a Culture based on Fantasy.

SOMEHOW, the Citizens of the Potentially GREAT CULTURES of the Middle East MUST BE, respectfully, Introduced to OBJECTIVE TRUTH.

Most of the "Civilized World" reqards "Aggressive, Fanatical Islam" as a Social Pathology, & will RESIST IT up to --& Including-- a ThermoNuclear Response!!"

Time for an "Islamic Reality Check!!"

Doc

[jwalburg]

Yes. When we come on strong, they say Americans are brutes and bullies. When we do things quietly, they say we are weak and easy to attack. No matter what we do they will complain about us, and it feeds into their leaders' quests for personal power. We are the bad guys no matter what. So we should do whatever it takes to win and not worry too much about what they think.

[scannell]

weapons were being stockpiled in mosques, shrines, and schools

Sounds like and interesting and "legal" target, them might make for an exciting fireworks display.

[broadsword]

A lot of Muslims are going to associate us with that British officer....wrong-minded as they are.

I don't care what wacked-out associations the Muzanderthals make, as long as they make them in the eternal fires of hell, and the sooner the better.

[Iron Matron]

LOL!

[Iron Matron]

That minaret has now been leveled by U.S. military ordnance, missiles and mortars. There's nothing left at all of that minaret. ...


Thanks for this post. It made me feel a bit better. Still, I wish our Soldiers could fire at will, I wish I could hear that there "was nothing left at all" of the insurgents.

[ken5050]

Thank'ee kindly ma'am...glad I made your morning..