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CITY GIVES TENTATIVE OK FOR MUSLIM PRAYER CALLS - HAMTRAMCK, MICHIGAN
Detroit Free Press ^ | 21 April 2004 | CECIL ANGEL, Staff Writer

Posted on 04/27/2004 11:04:56 AM PDT by Robert Drobot

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:13:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The Hamtramck City Council gave initial approval Tuesday night to allowing mosques in the city to broadcast the Muslim call to prayer over loudspeakers.

The issue, which has divided many of the city's Muslim and Christian residents, has attracted national attention and has evolved from a debate about a noise ordinance to one about religious freedom and tolerance.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: abuse; aclu; churchandstate; churchbells; control; government; hamtramck; islam; muslimamericans; muslimcontrol; prayer; publicprayer
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The pattern is the same. Muslims are respectful only where they are the minority. In the majority, they will impose their heathen false doctrine and drive out the minority.

Theirs is not a religion of peace. It demands submission with an iron fist when it controls a nation. Today they have forced their false god upon the Christians remaining in Hamtramck, Michigan. How many Muslims are in your city?

I wonder what Karol Jozef Wojtyla was thinking when he chose to pay homage to the Muslim faith by kissing the Koran? How much has that act smothered the pride of Polish people ( Roman Catholics ) who where once the majority of this city?

The once unchangeable bastion of Christianity has become mere putty in the hands of the Muslim religion.

1 posted on 04/27/2004 11:04:58 AM PDT by Robert Drobot
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Just curious... suppose I want to have a loudspeaker that says "Allah Sucks" five times a day... would that be OK too?
2 posted on 04/27/2004 11:08:09 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Robert Drobot
Dhimmi alert.
3 posted on 04/27/2004 11:08:25 AM PDT by victoryatallcosts
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To: Antoninus; apologia_pro_vita_sua; attagirl; barbcsr; Canticle_of_Deborah; Catholicguy; dakine; ...
Muslim iron fist ping.
4 posted on 04/27/2004 11:08:42 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: Robert Drobot
Thanks for the ping!
5 posted on 04/27/2004 11:10:09 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Robert Drobot
And no praying at VMI.
6 posted on 04/27/2004 11:11:25 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Robert Drobot
Next will be imposing Islam on you.
7 posted on 04/27/2004 11:12:08 AM PDT by JamesA ( The more you try to change my convictions the more resolved I am to keep them.)
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To: Robert Drobot
has attracted national attention and has evolved from a debate about a noise ordinance to one about religious freedom and tolerance.



Right. Tolerance for muSLIMES. Christians, however, best not get caught saying a prayer or broadcasting a prayer where any of a thousand stanic, special iterests might be offended by hearing them.

The GOD of Abraham is the only God. The council that allows muSLIME calls to prayer will be JUDGED!
8 posted on 04/27/2004 11:13:43 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Troublemakers deserve the righteous ZOT!)
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"Hamtramck is going to be a pioneer city for the whole United States."

This will remain their mantra until they win everywhere.
9 posted on 04/27/2004 11:14:25 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Go Toomey Go!!!)
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I wonder how this will play out. I'm not really sure if there is a constitutional impediment to allowing the loudspeakers to broadcast the call to prayer. I think this will probably end up being solved in the political arena.
10 posted on 04/27/2004 11:15:57 AM PDT by Modernman (Work is the curse of the drinking classes. -Oscar Wilde)
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"Hamtramck is going to be a pioneer city for the whole United States."

This says it all. Beware.

11 posted on 04/27/2004 11:16:28 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Just curious... suppose I want to have a loudspeaker that says "Allah Sucks" five times a day... would that be OK too?



I recommend ALL Christian churches (if you ARE christian, that is)immediately install loudspeakers which proclaim, seven times daily, thet the GOD of Abraham, Issac and Joseph is the One True GOD.

Any Christian "Ministers" reside in this town? Fight like your God intends or loose your souls.
12 posted on 04/27/2004 11:16:59 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Troublemakers deserve the righteous ZOT!)
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Hamtramck is going to be a pioneer city for the whole United States."

They try that in MY TOWN, and MY TOWN will be the Pioneer City for showing the rest of the YELLOW-BELLIES how to rid the town of roaches, satanists and muSLIMES.
13 posted on 04/27/2004 11:18:57 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Troublemakers deserve the righteous ZOT!)
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To: Robert Drobot
Personally, I think that the Christians in that city should ALL band together, and pick one church to ALSO go to the city council and say that the church members desire their church bells to ring five times a day as a call to faith for today's Believers, etc. Or (if they have no bells) then they should request to be able to play over their speakers, AMAZING GRACE or some other old hymn, five times a day for the same reason. How can that city refuse without facing a lawsuit? Where are the Christians in this city? Where are the "church leaders"? They should all take a stand together!
14 posted on 04/27/2004 11:21:49 AM PDT by Reborn
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To: BigBobber
AMEN! Hamtramck = slippery slope
15 posted on 04/27/2004 11:22:16 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: victoryatallcosts
Dhimmi alert.

Dhimmi was the name applied by the Arab-Muslim conquerors to indigenous non-Muslim populations who surrendered by a treaty (dhimma) to Muslim domination.

The thumbprint of Islam has been imposed on Hamtramck, Michigan. Will Detroit next fall? It has a majority population of heathens.

16 posted on 04/27/2004 11:23:36 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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The argument that broadcasting calls to prayer on loudspeakers is the Islamic tradition is inaccurate on its face, considering loudspeakers have only been around for, arguably, 70 years. As best I understand it, Islam did just fine for itself in the 13 centuries before the invention of loudspeakers.

And besides all that, do devout muslims, the ones who actually attend mosque, really need someone to tell them when to come to prayer? None of them has a watch...?

I just don't understand how this minority's right to make a racket as they freely practice their religion trumps the larger community's right not to be bothered by it.



17 posted on 04/27/2004 11:24:07 AM PDT by Gefreiter
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Call 1-877-why-islam ask the muslims why they force this on us!! This is for real. I called and asked about Islams bloody borders, the shemale who answered said why do Christians and Jews murder and hung up on me.
18 posted on 04/27/2004 11:24:49 AM PDT by Coroner
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To: Iron Matron
Maybe they'll rename the town "HAMAStramck". In any case, here's one town that won't have to worry about a 9-11 type incident.
19 posted on 04/27/2004 11:24:54 AM PDT by pawdoggie
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If the Muslime call to prayers ever starts being blared over loudspeakers in Atlanta, I am afraid you all will be reading about my response in the next days paper.

NOT gonna have it. Not ever.
20 posted on 04/27/2004 11:25:13 AM PDT by spodefly (A 7mm intellect in a .284 caliber world, or something.)
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