Toomey vs Specter: Email Reply from Main Street Republican Partnership PAC

Email Reply from MainStreetPAC about Specter's Demeaning Radio Ads ^ | 4/27/04 | Self

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After returning from voting for Toomey this morning at 9:30am, I heard a pro-Specter radio ad on WSBA-910AM, to the effect that "a vote against Specter is a vote against Pennsylvania's Republican Party."

When I got back to work, I emailed them a taste of my dissatisfaction:

""a vote against specter is a vote against the republican party"? what's that all about?

how utterly stupid.

arlie sphincter is a back-stabbing liberal scumbag, who's screwed us here in penna, for 24 years. he's gone, after today. your stupid radio spot helped seal his doom, and changed a lot of peoples' minds to vote for toomey.

i talked to several angry fellow republican voters at the voting hall in york, pa, and they switched from sphincter to toomey, because of your demeaning and lying ad.

happy? we are; and thanks!"

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Here is their reply:

I am sorry that you have interpreted our ad that way. Let me explain why we are sending Pennsylvanians the message that “a vote against Specter is a vote against the Republican Party” and encourage you to reconsider voting for Senator Specter.

Neither the White House nor the Senate Republican leadership – that includes Senator Santorum – wanted Toomey to run, and they made that clear last winter before Toomey announced his candidacy. Even though Toomey knew he was running against the wishes of President Bush and Senate Republican leaders, he chose to run for the Senate anyway.

Secondly, the Club for Growth, a Washington, DC interest group, has poured over $2 million into Pat Toomey’s campaign. The Club for Growth’s leaders frequently criticize the White House and the President. And in a New York Times article earlier this month, the group’s executive director, David Keating, even went as far to say that the Club has “no loyalty to the Republican Party.” I am sending you some comments that Stephen Moore, the group’s President, and Keating have made about President Bush and his policies. If Toomey is the real Republican that he claims to be, then why is he taking so much money and from an organization that repeatedly attacks the President and his policies?

Lastly, the Club and Toomey have spread a lot of misinformation about Specter’s voting record. According to the non-partisan Congressional Quarterly, Specter voted with Bush 89 percent of the time in 2002 and 2003 and 87 percent in 2001. Specter has always been a supporter of President Bush, despite what his foes will tell you.

I hope that you find this information helpful.

“We have no loyalty to the Republican Party” -- Executive Director David Keating, New York Times, 4/11/04.

“We've had too much compassion from government, thank you. That is the biggest impediment to freedom and economic growth in America today. The State of Bush's Union has become in some ways a State of Dependency and a State of Entitlement” – Stephen Moore, National Review, 1/20/04.

“It’s a rather anemic goal, actually,” -- Stephen Moore on Bush’s deficit-reduction plan, AP, Dec. 18, 2003.

“George Bush doesn’t have an anti-government bone in his body. Compassionate conservatism means never having to say no” -- Stephen Moore, Time, 12/08/03

“My term for this is fiscal child abuse. Somebody is going to pay for Granny's drugs, and it's going to be Granny's grandkids” -- Stephen Moore on the Medicare-Rx bill, USA Today, 11/25/03.

“With the war over in Iraq and Saddam gone for good, we should be giving Iraq a hand up through capitalism, not a hand out through welfare.” – Stephen Moore on Bush’s request for Iraq reconstruction funding, National Review, 10/17/03

''I don't really like the Bush people very much. 'I was never part of a fraternity or anything like that, and the Bush White House is like a club'' – Stephen Moore, New York Times Magazine, 8/10/03

“ … we already have a Department of Homeland Security and that is called the Defense Department.” – Stephen Moore on the Department of Homeland Security, Fox News, 12/21/02

“We are doing everything we can to quash this appointment ... but who knows what will happen.” -- Stephen Moore on the appointment of White House Economic Adviser Stephen Friedman, USA Today, 12/11/02

“So we wound up last year with a wretched education bill that nearly doubled federal education spending and further implanted the Department of Education as a fixture in local school policy. The bill was a conservative policy setback that it will take years to dig out from under.” -- Stephen Moore on No Child Left Behind, Human Events, 5/27/02

"We're not well liked by [Republican National Committee] types. We do not have a good relationship," Stephen Moore, The Hill, 7/31/02

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Anyone else in Pennsylvania hear those crummy ads? The Gary Sutton Show - http://www.wsba910.com/lineup/index.html - 9-12 EST, had a 15min segment on it; Rush mentioned it.

[litany_of_lies]

I understand why W and Santorum would "have to" give nominal support to Specter (I think I'm correct in saying you haven't seen either on the Specter campaign trail).

I don't understand why the statewide GOP in PA doesn't just stay out of the way and let 'em duke it out. I know there are times when it makes sense to advise an amibitious person not to run for the good of the party, but given Arlen's liking of Scottish law, his pro-abort positions, and his torpedoing of Bork, he deserved to get a vigorous challenge.

Praying for a Toomey victory.......

[Choose Ye This Day]

So apparently it's party over principle? Cronyism over conscience?

[Bikers4Bush]

"Neither the White House nor the Senate Republican leadership – that includes Senator Santorum – wanted Toomey to run, and they made that clear last winter before Toomey announced his candidacy."

What a shock, they don't want a true conservative to run and instead would rather keep their rino sitting in washington sitting fat and happy.

The GOP internally is turning out to be no better than the dems.

In Ohio there was actually a plan by a member in the state GOP to attack one of our most conservative republicans in state government, Ken Blackwell. The press has been all over it since the plan got leaked.

[Bikers4Bush]

"(I think I'm correct in saying you haven't seen either on the Specter campaign trail)"

I thought I heard a news report about Bush and rectorum showing up at a campaign stop.

[NittanyLion]

Bush has been on the campaign trail a couple times, making appearances with Liberal Arlen.

[cuz_it_aint_their_money]

According to the non-partisan Congressional Quarterly, Specter voted with Bush 89 percent of the time in 2002 and 2003 and 87 percent in 2001.

87 percent in 2001??????
That is a flat out BALD FACED LIE!

See my post http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1122733/posts for the real facts taken directly from the U.S. Senates official website!

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

With such suave mannerisms, it is surprising that someone as strikingly tough as Specter would need to stoop that low.

Yeah baby yeah, grrrr!

[litany_of_lies]

I am deeply saddened that W would waste precious time actively campaigning for Arlen Sphincter.

If Toomey wins, the mainstream press will interpret it as a slap to Bush.

Karl Rove needs to get a major strategery grip.

[governsleastgovernsbest]

If Toomey is the real Republican that he claims to be, then why is he taking so much money and from an organization that repeatedly attacks the President and his policies?

The Club for Growth are supply side Republicans in the tradition of Ronald Reagan. The real question is why has Specter taken money from looney-left George Soros?

Also, does anyone here disagree with any of the policy positions described in the quotes from Stephen Moore? I sure don't.

[Ron in Acreage]

Thanks to Specter, Robert Bork got "Borked".

[NittanyLion]

Is that a wax figure or a real person?

He looks like he's about to melt...

[Honestfreedom]

Sounds like the Republican official's idea of a good Republican is a cool aid drinker.

[Tao Yin]

Holding my nose, I voted for Specter today.

For me it was a vote of party over principle.

I voted for Specter because he has a political machine that may help Bush win PA. If Specter is gone, then that organization is weakened. If Bush can win PA, it's game over for the Dems.

I never ever ever thought I would vote for Specter. He leaves a bad taste in my mouth. But today, I voted for the party. A Dem in the white house would be worse than Specter in PA.

Politics is never cut and dry. And no matter what happens this time, I win and loose. I want Toomey. I need Specter. Or so my reasoning goes.

[cryptical]

If I were undecided in PA, the quotes from the Club for Growth people would make up my mind.

I'd vote for Toomey.

GWB is better than any alternatives, and has done a good job in a number of areas, but he (and the GOP) aren't very conservative.

The idea that Party (or personality) before principles is the reason why we find ourselves with a Federal Government bloated like a tumor tapping into a vein.

[Dahoser]

Here are some quotes to send back to those RINOs:

Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.
January 7, 1970

It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back. Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster productivity, not stifle it.
January 20, 1981

We who live in free market societies believe that growth, prosperity and ultimately human fulfillment, are created from the bottom up, not the government down. Only when the human spirit is allowed to invent and create, only when individuals are given a personal stake in deciding economic policies and benefitting from their success -- only then can societies remain economically alive, dynamic, progressive, and free. Trust the people. This is the one irrefutable lesson of the entire postwar period contradicting the notion that rigid government controls are essential to economic development.
September 29, 1981

The size of the federal budget is not an appropriate barometer of social conscience or charitable concern.
October 5, 1981

Government is the people's business and every man, woman and child becomes a shareholder with the first penny of tax paid.
January 14, 1982

We don't have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven't taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much.
March 28, 1982

Government growing beyond our consent had become a lumbering giant, slamming shut the gates of opportunity, threatening to crush the very roots of our freedom. What brought America back? The American people brought us back -- with quiet courage and common sense; with undying faith that in this nation under God the future will be ours, for the future belongs to the free.
February 4, 1986

[G]overnment's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
August 15, 1986

We've done our part. And as I walk off into the city streets, a final word to the men and women of the Reagan revolution, the men and women across America who for 8 years did the work that brought America back. My friends: We did it. We weren't just marking time. We made a difference. We made the city stronger, we made the city freer, and we left her in good hands. All in all, not bad, not bad at all.
January 20th, 1989

Ronald Wilson Reagan, 40th President of the United States

[blanknoone]

"The Mainstream Republican PAC" is the group that Soros is funding, is that correct? They just shot themselves in the foot, or as the case may be, head. I heard the ad (unfortunately, I am just across the state border...thus I cannot go vote for Toomey, but I would if I could. It was despicable. They tried to make it clear that it wasn't directly from Specter, but I cannot see how the backlash from it could do anything but hurt him.

It was so bad, I have to wonder if it was deliberate. The real question is why Soros is supporting Specter, is it to keep a liberal republican RINO in his seat, or to have a real conservative they think they can beat. A dem won't unseat Specter, whereas with Toomey at least it will be a race. I think it is a race it is worth having and winning, but I am wondering about Soros' logic. Was he trying to help Specter or torpedo him?

[ken5050]

Well, at least you got a reply...FWIW, my take is that initially, Specter had Bush and Santorum over a barrel. If they had refused to actively support him, he would have done a Jeffords....they had no choice...

[litany_of_lies]

I respectfully disagree with your reason to vote Specter.

Toomey will get people out to vote who haven't voted before, or who just plain dislike Specter. He will also have plenty of access to experienced grass-roots organizers (like prolifers and NRA) who know how to find these people and motivate them.

[litany_of_lies]

That's the best explanation I've heard yet as to why Santorum and Bush are "on board." Wish you had proof for your claim.

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That's what it looks like, on the surface. But I suspect there's more to it. I think Soros is involved in backing Sphincter.

[ken5050]

I have no proof..just speculation /deduction on my part. It makes sense...if Arlen had changed, that would have deadlocked the Senate....But, let me give you the second half of my theory, which may be proven out...Bush, Rick, and Rove, ain't stupid, and I bet they exacted a harsh price from Spector for giving their support..OK, you ask, what...well SArlen in in line to be the next chair of the SJC, the thought of which gives me hives, and no way could Bush, Frist, et al have accepted it. So, my guess is that Arlen had to agree to step aside as chair..I.e. NOT take the seat..and probabaly move OFF the committee alll together...we shall see....regards..

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

I don't wanna see one post from you on "the Obstructionist Democrats in the Senate" that are preventing conservative judges from being approved.

Its the fault of people like yourself, and all other Snarlin voters, who out strategized yourself, I hope you learn from what will happen where he to win today. I pray he doesn't for the good of the party.

[Choose Ye This Day]

I disagree with your decision, but you're in PA, not me. If Specter wins, I believe you will regret it many times over in the next 6 years.

Specter didn't do much to help Bush in 2000; I fail to see how he will magically deliver PA to Bush this year.

[AmishDude]

I don't believe Specter has a machine in the same mold as the traditional Democrat big city political machines. His votes come from people seeking "moderation". I don't know if he's ever had a real primary challenge.

[aodell]

Sick. Toomey is doing so well DESPITE the President and Santorum. That ought to tell these creeps something.

[AmishDude]

Bush and Santorum could not have come out for Toomey. But they could have given statements of support without appearing with him. The fact is that if you were to put money on who would be the Senator elected in Nov., you would want to put money on Arlen. If that's the case, Bush needs Specter badly because of the Judiciary Committee. If Arlen doesn't like a judicial nominee, that's it, he's dead.

And Specter will every once in a while kill a nominee just to flex his muscles.

[AmishDude]

If Toomey wins the primary, I guarantee you that Bush will make more post-primary appearances with Toomey than he made pre-primary with Specter.

[BillyBoy]

>> Holding my nose, I voted for Specter today. For me it was a vote of party over principle. I voted for Specter because he has a political machine that may help Bush win PA. <<

If Snarlin' Arlen gets in, you have done irreparatable damange to PA and this country. Perhaps you'd like a sneak peek of what happened when Illinois Republicans used your logic back in 1998:

NOV. 1998 -- SOME IL CONSERVATIVES HOLD THEIR NOSE AND VOTE FOR ULTRA-LIBERAL RINO GEORGE RYAN BECAUSE "HE CAN WIN" AND "HE SUPPORTS BUSH"

JAN. 1999 -- JESSE JACKSON PLACED IN CHARGE OF ILLINOIS "KIDCARE" PROGRAM

MARCH 1999 -- GEORGE RYAN BREAKS "NO NEW TAXES" CAMPAIGN PLEDGE, TRIPLES STATE "FEES" ACROSS THE BOARD

AUGUST 1999 -- "PRO-LIFE" GEORGE RYAN VETOS BI-PARTISAN BILL TO END TAXPAYER FUNDED ABORTIONS FOR THE THIRD TRIMESTER

OCT 1999 -- GEORGE RYAN HAS TAXPAYER FUNDED TRIP TO CUBA AND PRAISES CASTRO, LOBBIES FOR FREE AND OEPN TRADE WITH CUBA

JAN. 2000 -- GEORGE RYAN HOLDS LEGISLATURE HOSTAGE UNTIL THEY PASS SOME ANTI-GUN "WEAPON POSSESSIONAL FELONY" LAW TO PUT PEOPLE IN JAIL WHO ACCIDENTIALLY TRANSPORT AN UNLICESED GUN ACROSS STATE LINES

APRIL 2000 -- GEORGE RYAN ANNOUNCES INDEFINITE "MORITORUM" ON THE DEATH PENALTY BECAUSE SOME CRIMINAL'S SENTENCE GOT REVERSED ON A TECHNICALITY

SEPT 2000 -- GEORGE RYAN CAMPAIGNS WITH GEORGE BUSH. SINCE RYAN HAS ABOUT A 40% APPROVAL RATING AT THE TIME, VOTERS ABANDON BOTH GEORGES AND AL GORE SWEEPS THE STATE BY RECORD MARGINS IN WHAT USED TO BE A "SWING STATE"

FEB. 2001 -- GEORGE RYAN GIVES LUKEWARM SUPPORT TO BUSH'S TAX CUT PROPOSAL PLAN, WHICH IS UTTERLY POINTLESS SINCE RYAN RAISED TAXES IN ILLINOIS

APRIL 2001 -- LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO WERE UNDER GEORGE RYAN GET INDICTED FOR A LICENSE-FOR-BRIBES SCANDAL, LEAVING PEOPLE TO SPECTULATE WHETHER GEORGE WAS INVOLVED. HIS APPROVAL RATS PLUMMENT FURTHER.

JUNE 2001 -- EVIDENCE FOUND THAT GEORGE RYAN KNEW ABOUT LICENSE FOR BRIBES. SENATOR PETER FITZGERALD (R-IL) SUGGESTS GEORGE SHOULD RESIGN. GEORGE BARKS BACK "MAYBE HE SHOULD RESIGN"

OCT 2001 -- GEORGE RYAN ANNOUNCES PLAN TO TRIPLE STATE TOLL FEES AND OTHER "NEEDED MEASURES" TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE FUNDS TO COMBAT TERRORISM AFTER 9/11

DEC. 2001 -- GEORGE RYAN TOURS THE COUNTRY TALKING ABOUT HOW "FLAWED" THE DEATH PENALTY SYSTEM IS AND UNDERMINDS THE PRESIDENT ON THE ISSUE

JAN. 2002 -- GEORGE RYAN HAS A 20% APPROVAL RATING. STATE SENATOR PATRICK O'MALLEY ANNOUNCES HE WILL RUN AGAINST GEORGE IN THE PRIMARY

FEB. 2002 -- GEORGE RYAN ANNOUNCES HE WILL "NOT BE A CANDIDATE FOR RE-ELECTION" BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH HIS "GRANDKIDS"

MARCH 2002 -- AFTER INITALLY BACKED HIS RINO LT. GOVERNOR TO SUCCEED HIM, SHE BREAKS WITH HIM ON THE CORRUPTION ISSUE AND SAYS HE SHOULD COME CLEAN. GEORGE DECIDES TO SUPPORT A DEMOCRAT INSTEAD.

MARCH 2002 -- ILLINOIS GOP NOMINATES ANOTHER "RYAN" TO REPLACE "RYAN"

MAY 2002 -- MAYOR DALEY (DEMOCRAT) OF CHICAGO SAYS HE WISHES GEORGE WERE RUNNING AGAIN, AS THEY WERE LIKE THE BEST OF FRIENDS

JULY 2002 -- GEORGE RYAN WALKS OUT ON A PRESS CONFERENCE WHEN ASKED ABOUT A ILLEGAL ALIEN WHO RECEIVED A LICENSE FROM HIS OFFICE AND CRASHED INTO A MINI-VAN, KILLING SIX KIDS

AUGUST 2002 -- GEORGE RYAN WRITES A LETTER TO LEGISLATORS URGING THEM TO PASS "GAY RIGHTS" LEGISLATION TO GIVE HOMOSEXUALS AN IMPORTANT "OPRESSED MINORITY" GROUP STATUS

OCT. 2002 -- GEORGE RYAN ANNOUNCES THE "ARROGANT, HARD-RIGHT" OF THE PARTY THAT DARED TO CRITIZE HIM IS FULL OF "EXTREMISTS" AND THE GOP "DESERVES TO LOSE" FOR UNDERMINING HIM

NOV. 2002 -- CHICAGO DEMOCRATS CLAIM GEORGE IS AN EXAMPLE OF "YEARS OF REPUBLICAN CORRUPTION" AND THAT THEY ARE EXAMPLE OF "REFORM" AND "CHANGE". THEY NEGLECT TO POINT OUT THAT THEY AGREED WITH GEORGE'S ENTIRE AGENDA. CHICAGO DEMOCRATS SWEEP STATE.

DEC. 2002 -- AS A GOING AWAY PRESENT, GEORGE PUTS FOUR MURDERS ON DEATH ROW BACK ON THE STREETS OUTRIGHT, AND TAKES THE OTHER 136 OF THEM OFF DEATH ROW AND MAKES THEM ELIGABLE FOR PAROLE.

Don't blame me, I supported Chad Koppie in the primary and DID NOT VOTE for ol' George in November!!

[Sybeck1]

Did you ask him about the Soros money in the Rinos coffer?

[Truth29]

And how would they enforce such a price on Arlen? Once he is elected to what will be most likely a final 6 year term, he is accountable to no one. Rove and Bush's reward will be another knife in the back IMO.

[Truth Table]

Please PA, put specter out on his rino butt . Kerry is imploding. Long time to November for sure, but I do not think when the metal meets the road, america will elect kerry.

If Toomey beats specter, the RNC will give him the funds he needs to carry the state in the general.

Any exit polls?

Hoping for the best in PA with my fingers crossed here in NC...

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

That is an amazing synopsis. You should post that for every time we get another (R)nold or (R)len supporter on here, hopefully eventually the lazy thinkers within the GOP will learn from the past exploding cigars in their faces that the "but he can win!" shreaking is a sure sign of impending failure.

Words mean things.

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That's pretty darned close to what I've been thinking, ever since I heard those radio spots a month or so, ago. I also think that Sphincter called in every favor for the few votes he helped W out with; ditto Santorum.

[ken5050]

A signed letter, perhaps?

[Truth29]

"A signed letter, perhaps?"

I doubt such a letter exists, but even if it does, Specter can disavow or ignore the letter after the general election or even take reprisals if the Administration dares to make it public.

[oldironsides]

You fell for it. Specter was no help to GW Bush in 2000 and will be no help to him in 2004. The inner circle wants you to think Specter will help the GOP win Pennsylvania? When is the last time Pennsylvania went for a GOP presidential candidate with Specter in office? Specter helps himself.....

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W did appear a couple of times with Sphincter, over the past few months, IIRC. Can't remember Santorum's appearance schedule.

Anyway, it's "the morning after", and it's all moot now. Bummer.

[aodell]

You are probably right, but we don't have that to worry about anymore thanks in part to Bush himself.

[NittanyLion]

It would appear that yourself and a small group of likeminded voters prevented a true conservative from becoming the next Senator from PA. And now that you've "held your nose" top vote for a RINO, I hope you're very closely following his actions. Particularly Specter's efforts to immediately distance himself from all things conservative.