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Live on H&C: Well, I guess I held my own (mhking on FNC last night)
Ramblings' Journal | 4.28.04 | Michael King

Posted on 04/28/2004 5:43:35 AM PDT by mhking

Live on Fox: Well, at least I held my own

Last night, I appeared on Fox News Channel's Hannity & Colmes in a "debate" (and I use the term loosely, it was more like an ambush than anything else) with New York City Councilman Charles "I Wanna Slap The Nearest White Person For My Mental Health" Barron.

Project 21 put out a press release Monday, which strongly criticized a Jesse Jackson's earlier this month in Boston. In the speech, Jackson accused the US Military of "murder," called for the impeachment of the President, and called for both UN sanctions and military action by the United Nations against the United States.

Last I checked, openly supporting military action against the US is grounds for treason, isn't it? Am I missing something?

Well, in any event, Project 21's release was very critical of Jackson, and I was quoted prominently in the release.

"Jesse Jackson's motives have never been as transparent as they were with these statements. If anyone needs to apologize, it's him. He indulges his fantasies and delusions of grandeur by calling for Bush's impeachment and calling for United Nations action against us. But blacks are beginning to see the truth -- that Jackson's bluster is exactly that: all smoke and no substance."
FNC's Atlanta studio is in a new facility in Midtown, where Georgia Public Broadcasting has it's headquarters.

The bureau is fairly small, but the facilities modern.

The producer (I'm sorry, I can't remember his name -- I so bad with names; I generally don't forget a face, but I'm horrible with names) ushered me into the studio. The room was comfortable, nowhere near as tiny as the veritable closet that NBC uses for it's Atlanta studio. A chair and low table sat in front of a "Fox Atlanta" backdrop.

The producer explained that the camera was controlled from New York. It was a fancy robotic affair, not overly large at all. A small monitor sat nearby.

They set me up, and I waited a short while, making small talk with the producer, and with the people in New York. The producer turned the monitor away from me -- "So I wouldn't be tempted to look at it," he claimed.

Bottom of the hour, and they came up live. NYC Councilman Charles Barron, along with Sean Hannity and Alan Colmes. I have spoken to Sean a couple of times in the past -- he and I were on competing talk radio stations in the same time slot when I first came to Atlanta nearly 10 years ago. I'm not sure if he remembers me though.

Sean did the intro, then tossed out a question. Barron immediately jumped on it, trying to marginalize me. "Nobody knows who you people are. Yet you are trying to speak for black people."

"No, I'm not trying to speak for everyone. However, I never stopped to elect Jesse Jackson to speak for me," I retorted.

Barron was on a roll. He had the advantage of being in the studio with Sean and Alan -- he could read body language and facial expressions, where I couldn't see a thing (save the unblinking eye of the camera).

He began yelling, and when I didn't shut up right off, he began screeching.

Alan jumped in, grabbed the conversation, and yanked it -- hard -- into the deep water of Iraq, where I was not prepared to go.

Barron was in his element. I thought he sensed my unease, but everyone I've spoken to said that I was pretty cool throughout the whole thing. They said that if anything, Barron was unhinged by my not getting upset and flying off the handle.

I have a strong commanding voice and presence. I am certainly aware of that, and use it pretty much unconsciously.

I spoke over Barron, in an attempt to get my point across. I'm not sure if I did -- the segment was over so quickly.

I kicked myself on the drive home, for allowing Alan to grab the subject from me and head off in another direction.

My wife (She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed) insisted that I did just fine, and reminded me that Alan was one of the hosts -- he had the right and perogative to shift gears if he wanted to.

Oh, well. Come to find out that Mitchell (my 10 year old) yelled at Barron to shut up and let me talk; Lynese just wandered up to the TV, pointed, and said, "There's Daddy."

Then she waved. "Hi, Daddy!"

After I got home, I talked to my folks. I could hear my mom beaming through the phone. My dad? Well, my very liberal dad finally surprised me. "Well, boy, I don't agree with your politics, but you did good. You were polished and authoritative. I'm proud of you."

I guess the "idiot son" has finally come home and shed the "idiot" label.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aar; blacklash; deneenborelli; foxnews; freedomworks; jessejackson; mhking; michaelking; project21
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1 posted on 04/28/2004 5:43:36 AM PDT by mhking
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Self-indulgent mega-ping.
2 posted on 04/28/2004 5:44:37 AM PDT by mhking (You all have my eternal gratitude and prayers of thanks. God bless you all.)
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To: mhking
Good for you!

Sorry I missed it . . . I'm not much of a TV watcher.

But if your daddy disagrees with your politics and still says you did good . . . you did good.

3 posted on 04/28/2004 5:46:51 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: mhking
Barron was frothing at the mouth.

Nice job.

The libs have got rudeness downpat! Don't they?

4 posted on 04/28/2004 5:50:28 AM PDT by lysie (Accumulating FRequent FReeper miles.)
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To: mhking
I watched the replay!

You were awesome!

You should try and get a job with Fox!
5 posted on 04/28/2004 5:50:34 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (There is no problem so great that it cannot be solved with high powered explosives.)
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To: mhking
BTTT!

Thanks for posting the recap; I didn't get to watch it since my meeting ran late.

6 posted on 04/28/2004 5:50:51 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: mhking
I saw you last night and thought you might be a freeper! You did a good job. That New York commie was trying hard to take over the show but you did what you had to do.
I'll never forget about 3 years ago, Walter Williams was on with a very loud, obnoxious alder woman from Chicago. She did the same thing to Walter but he was finally able to come back and say "Lady your not only rude, you're ignorant as well." It was a fine moment. The black community and the country as a whole needs more people like you and Walter Williams speaking out against these loonies. You are a good example of someone who should keep speaking out!
7 posted on 04/28/2004 5:51:18 AM PDT by Lucky2 ( 2004 is the year the Yankees will win the World Series and GWB will be re-elected!)
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To: mhking
You did good.

I thought it was telling when Barron looked down his very long Marxist patrician nose at you and said that you weren't known in his community.

AFA WMD goes, you shoulda nailed Barron w/ the chemical bomb that was discovered in Jordan the other day coming from Syria that came from Iraq...

Next time. Barron is slime. 'Pod.

8 posted on 04/28/2004 5:51:31 AM PDT by sauropod ("I am Locutus of Borg. Resistance is futile. You will service US.")
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To: mhking
That was you?!? Damn! Cool! Watched it. You were great, eevn if you were cut off or stepped on by the NYC Councilman you were debating, when you were talking. :)
9 posted on 04/28/2004 5:51:45 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/">Waffles</a>)
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To: mhking
You did great despite the "ambush"; I was impressed that you didn't lose your "cool". And Barron just reinforced the fact that he is a 1st class Clymer...
10 posted on 04/28/2004 5:51:47 AM PDT by Born Conservative (It really sucks when your 15 minutes of fame comes AFTER you're gone...)
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To: mhking
I couldn't see much of what was going on because there was a birthday party going on in my living room, but from what I did see you did fine. Charles Barron came out looking like a loud mouthed jerk. Your family's right to be proud.
11 posted on 04/28/2004 5:52:10 AM PDT by Jaxter ("Guys like John Kerry spit on guys like me. I've been waiting 33 years to spit back.")
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To: mhking
Michael

I think you did GREAT!!! You got across the great things our troops are doing in Iraq, despite that big mouth lib....and I don't mean Colmes!!!

Congratulations!!!! I think you were outstanding!
12 posted on 04/28/2004 5:52:27 AM PDT by 4everontheRight (GW'04 - Rice'08)
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To: mhking
You did a great job, Michael.

My husband was screaming invectives at Barron and Colmes. After your remark about not electing JJ he hollered to me from the other room......That guy sounds like a FReeper!!! I had forgotten to tell him ahead of time that you were.

Barron made a total fool of himself and you did a superb job.

I have been in a similar situation of being in a remote location and unable to see those you are speaking with......it can be very disconcerting.
13 posted on 04/28/2004 5:52:30 AM PDT by Gabz (Those people with no honor have no idea how to treat honorable people.)
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To: mhking
I'm sorry I missed it... Interesting to hear the insider's experience. To have Barron complain about you "trying to speak for black people" is laughable - when, as you pointed out, nobody elected Jackson (or Sharpton, or whoever) to do the same either.
14 posted on 04/28/2004 5:52:42 AM PDT by Zeppo
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To: mhking
I did not see you, but a co-worker who, although conservative, is not yet a freeper did. He didn't know you were a freeper, but he said you did awesome. Sorry I missed it, but great job!
15 posted on 04/28/2004 5:53:08 AM PDT by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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To: mhking
I channel surfed right past FoxNews last night. I stopped for about 30 seconds and saw that maniac drooling his spew, so I just kept going to the next channel.

If I had known you were on, I would have stopped to watch. Dadgummit, tell somebody!

Congrats. I have no doubt you held your own against the deranged sociopath.
16 posted on 04/28/2004 5:55:18 AM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: mhking
No cable in the Slim house. :(

But I knew you'd do great.
17 posted on 04/28/2004 5:55:25 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (From each according to his inability, to each according to his misdeeds - DNC Motto)
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To: mhking
Well, Mr. K., having missed the broadcast, I have to rely on what you (and others) have mentioned.

Seems to me that you were up against the proverbial "stacked deck". Which surprises me; I would've thought Hannity might've risen to your off-screen defense more.

This was obviously a platform for Barron - free air time for the Civil Rights Industry. The best you could hope for, in such a situation, is a draw.

Looks like you drew. Nicely done.
18 posted on 04/28/2004 5:55:26 AM PDT by Old Sarge
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To: mhking; cyborg; prairiebreeze; sauropod
We were watching & commenting in the Yahoo chat room, Michael (FR crashed about five minutes before H & C). You did JUST FINE but we were all infuriated at the lack of moderation. You were there to talk about Jesse Jackson and suddenly Barron is shrieking about Iraq and Colmes is saying you sound like a Bush apologist. And then the segment was over in maybe four minutes!

I want them to invite you BACK, you got screwed.

Anyway, it was so brief I think the audience was left mainly with visual impressions (I'm sure they tuned out the unpleasant screaming from Barron). And Barron chose his wardrobe very badly for that. What the hell was he wearing, a Nehru jacket?
19 posted on 04/28/2004 5:57:06 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: mhking
After reading your account, it sounds as though you did very well!
I am glad your dad was proud of you.

I don't know how you could keep your cool with such an arrogant a** as Barron trying to shout you down.
As to his comment: "Nobody knows who you people are."

I would have lost it right there.
Damn, I hate that "you people" crap. It's so condescending.

Good job, Michael!

CD

20 posted on 04/28/2004 5:57:43 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: mhking
bump for later reading.
21 posted on 04/28/2004 5:59:13 AM PDT by Theo
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To: mhking
I will add that I was screaming at my TV when Charles Barron would just babble on and wouldn't shut the heck up when it was your turn to talk. I cannot stand Liberals that just talk a bunch of BS over their debate counterparts. I'm hard of hearing as it is, and it's even worse when there's 4 attorney's screeching at the top of their voices at the same time on Greta's show.
22 posted on 04/28/2004 5:59:26 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/">Waffles</a>)
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To: mhking
I am sorry I missed your appearance. I have become so repulsed by the appearance that the liberals have credibility and are presented as "gods", I find other things to occupy my time and mind.

No matter what the lying crooked liberals do and say Alan never seems to have any problem with their lies and corruption. Alan is ........ oh well, the battle for "Freeing the Minds", moves forward.
23 posted on 04/28/2004 5:59:37 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: mhking
Excellent work, Michael!
24 posted on 04/28/2004 5:59:42 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad (x = x + 1)
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To: hellinahandcart
What the hell was he wearing, a Nehru jacket?

Your guess is as good as mine -- I didn't get a good look at him.

I know that he started shreiking in my ear when my cage didn't get too rattled...

25 posted on 04/28/2004 5:59:42 AM PDT by mhking (You all have my eternal gratitude and prayers of thanks. God bless you all.)
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To: mhking
You were great.
26 posted on 04/28/2004 6:00:02 AM PDT by Liz
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To: mhking
U.N action against the U.S? What are they going to do? Boycott the U.N. parking lot?
27 posted on 04/28/2004 6:00:24 AM PDT by ampat (to)
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To: mhking
Unfortunately, modern "talking head" shows have been reduced to a studio full of spin doctors each trying to turn the conversation this way and that way. It's easy to take the bait and argue against their statements, but that's exactly what they want you to do, so that the public doesn't hear that Jesse committed treason.

By Alan switching the subject, you can bet that liberals are embarassed of Jesse.

They should be.

You held your own though, and it was obvious that you were the straight-talker in the group.

If I can kid you a little here, I would say the word, "Hiroshima." :)

Good on you Mike, you represented us well.

28 posted on 04/28/2004 6:00:28 AM PDT by Palmetto (Gorelicker should be given 20 years.........in the chair.)
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To: Old Sarge
You were polished and authoritative. I'm proud of you."

I echo your dad's comments.

Barron made a fool out of himself. You conducted yourself with intelligence, dignity and class. Great job!

29 posted on 04/28/2004 6:00:53 AM PDT by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W."Billy" Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: mhking
Saw ya and you held your own!
30 posted on 04/28/2004 6:00:55 AM PDT by Vision (Always Faithful)
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To: mhking
No time last night for TV, but congratulations!
31 posted on 04/28/2004 6:00:59 AM PDT by Toespi (,)
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To: Palmetto
If I can kid you a little here, I would say the word, "Hiroshima." :)

Would you believe I blanked at that point!?

Just damn! (and no, I'm sure I couldn't get away with that invective on the air, though FReepers would have loved it if I did)

32 posted on 04/28/2004 6:02:00 AM PDT by mhking (You all have my eternal gratitude and prayers of thanks. God bless you all.)
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To: LisaMalia; mhking
::chuckling:: Thank you, Lisa, but I think you meant it for Mr. King.
33 posted on 04/28/2004 6:02:37 AM PDT by Old Sarge
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To: mhking
Saw you on Fox, thought you did a great job. Barron shot himself in the foot by acting like a jerk. Your responses seemed on target. King 1 Barron 0
34 posted on 04/28/2004 6:02:52 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (illegitimo noncarborundium)
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To: mhking
You did very very well! Congratulations!
35 posted on 04/28/2004 6:03:18 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: mhking
>>Barron was in his element. I thought he sensed my unease, but everyone I've spoken to said that I was pretty cool throughout the whole thing. They said that if anything, Barron was unhinged by my not getting upset and flying off the handle.<<

Barron came off like a raving loon.
I agree with your father. Anyone who was watching, saw you as a man who knew what you were talking about. Barron looked like a person caught in a lie.
36 posted on 04/28/2004 6:03:28 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Freepettes 4 & 6 entering 1st and 3rd grades as of 6/04)
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To: mhking
Stupid commie. I hate that man. And he wouldn't ever have gotten into office if I hadn't voted for term limits here, so blame me.
37 posted on 04/28/2004 6:03:48 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: mhking
Both Hannity and Colmes should be embarrassed of that interview. What did they call you there for.. to let Barron have someone to mock. My goodness. If the point was that the liberals are out of control, they proved that hands down. I thought Sean could have tried to get that under control, especially the personal attack on you by Barron.

You did great not to respond on his hateful level.

Well,I know who you are and I am glad you are around. I highly doubt that Barron speaks for any rational person, with any amount of pigment in their skin.

I am still proud of your work.

38 posted on 04/28/2004 6:04:23 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: Old Sarge; mhking
Ummm, yep sorry. I think I need another cup of coffee!!
39 posted on 04/28/2004 6:05:06 AM PDT by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W."Billy" Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: mhking
Michael,

You did great! Don't kick yourself for maintaining your dignity. You came across perfectly to the people who were worthy of your message.
40 posted on 04/28/2004 6:05:25 AM PDT by sargunner
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To: mhking
Michael, when they start shouting it means that you have won.

They started shouting. You won. Great job.

41 posted on 04/28/2004 6:06:26 AM PDT by catpuppy
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To: mhking
You did great Michael. Barron is a pompous ass and his histrionics were a sharp contrast to your demeanor and presentation.

I was dismayed that Sean Let Alan move the conversation away from Jesse -- would have loved to see you pound that spike right into Barron's forehead.

All in all though, you came out the best. Barron looked like a wild-eyed weasel, and it was obvious that Alan was very uncomfortable and couldn't wait to get the subject off of Jesse. They know Jesse screwed up with his statement, and are scared to death that a strong, articulate Black man is out there getting the message out about Jesse's true "Color"

42 posted on 04/28/2004 6:06:51 AM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: mhking
For some reason every Democrat since Carville has used shouting and talking over as a way to prevent the other side from making a case.

It is just plain stupid for them to do so.

Any one who has been an actor on a stage knows from crowd reactions, that acting like an bully does not win the viewers. When players act like a bully, they don't get applause they get booed.

Remember the object is to get viewers to like and respect you and therefore tend to accept your positions on issues. The object is to win the hearts and minds of the undecided center. My Dad taught me politics as a 16 year old teenager. He used subjects I was really interested in (at the time) to teach me. I remember Dad saying, "Being obnoxious is not a way to get a girl in the back seat or a voter in a booth." Dad knew how to get my attention.

Imagine the two of you were each trying to sell a viewer a car, rather than a policitcal view. Do you really think that his yelling and interrupting, and being a bully would help him sell the viewers a car? People don't buy used cars from bullies.

If they wouldn't buy a used car from him, do you think they would buy his political views?

You did fantastic. You weren't the bully.. you did something far more valuable to your cause. You made the sale.

A smooth pavement beats a bumpy road every time.

You done GOOD!!!


43 posted on 04/28/2004 6:07:58 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: mhking
I don't remember the comment you made Micheal, but that comment which spoke of nothing but the truth, I pumped my fist in the air, clapped and it had me rolling out of my chair in laughter. The very comment which set off Councilman Barron into his nonstop nonsensical rant and attack. That much I do remember. He kept attacking you, because you were exposing JJ and the councilman for who they truly are.
44 posted on 04/28/2004 6:08:26 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/">Waffles</a>)
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To: mhking
I wish I hadn't missed this. It sounds like you did great!

I am bursting with pride. LOL
45 posted on 04/28/2004 6:08:56 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: mhking
You did well! I only wish that they had muzzled Charles Barron. I notice that the lib guests now just keep talking once they are given the floor. The woman opposite Laura Ingraham in the earlier segment took the same approach. By the way, Charles Barron is a miserable anti-American, and what Jesse Jackson said is simply outrageous.
46 posted on 04/28/2004 6:09:26 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: mhking
You were great. Hannity should have shut Barron up so you could say what you had to say. Maybe he'll have you on again so you can speak. You did well, my friend. Good job.
47 posted on 04/28/2004 6:10:05 AM PDT by Auntbee
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To: mhking
I saw you...you did good!! The other guy came off looking very unlikable...being rude and immature up front with you, saying some very stupid things that made his side look bad. I don't think anyone could possibly side with what he was saying about Iraq...Not even normal democrats are that extreme. You kept your composure and did a great job getting your message out.
48 posted on 04/28/2004 6:13:03 AM PDT by Capitalism2003 ("I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mhking
Good job. I missed it. I was kinda wrapped up in Toomey-Specter
49 posted on 04/28/2004 6:14:09 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Vote Toomey April 27)
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To: mhking
Nice job, Michael. Grace under pressure and the lone class act of the segment.
50 posted on 04/28/2004 6:14:33 AM PDT by Kathleen
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