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Live on H&C: Well, I guess I held my own (mhking on FNC last night)
Ramblings' Journal | 4.28.04 | Michael King

Posted on 04/28/2004 5:43:35 AM PDT by mhking

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To: Diva Betsy Ross
My point is that mhking's ping list is a true colorless society that exists right here. I think that's great.
151 posted on 04/28/2004 8:20:43 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org/ GOP HELP TERRI or Constitution Party Here I Come)
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To: floriduh voter
Oh I am sorry I got your point! I agree with you!
152 posted on 04/28/2004 8:21:30 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: mhking
I didnt get a chance to see it, but I'm sure you were miles better then Barron! The man is out of his mind.

For those of you not familiar with "Slappy", here is a taste:

http://www.bushcountry.org/news/columnists/jreynalds/c_082102_jreynalds_indian-givers-john-rocker-nyc-councilman-charles-barron.htm


http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/Linguistics/Ebonics_Article__Charles_B.html

http://www.globalblacknews.com/CBarron.html
153 posted on 04/28/2004 8:26:59 AM PDT by FeliciaCat (Life is to short for ugly shoes.)
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To: mhking
Good job, BUMP!
154 posted on 04/28/2004 8:28:09 AM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: mhking
Haha...congrats on a good job.
155 posted on 04/28/2004 8:30:27 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ( He who watches over Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps)
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To: mhking; dittomom
I appeared on Fox News Channel's Hannity & Colmes in a "debate" (and I use the term loosely, it was more like an ambush than anything else)

I'm sure you two can share some stories.

156 posted on 04/28/2004 8:34:44 AM PDT by uglybiker (If I wanted a Harley, I would have bought a Harley. I didn't, and I didn't.)
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To: mhking
You were maahhhhh-va-lous, darling!

I loved the part where he told you "You don't represent 'our people'."

You were great!
157 posted on 04/28/2004 8:34:48 AM PDT by Timeout (Dems and MediaCrats: Stuck in a 9/10 world.)
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To: mhking
This review matters the most.

"Well, boy, I don't agree with your politics, but you did good. You were polished and authoritative. I'm proud of you."

158 posted on 04/28/2004 8:41:27 AM PDT by Delta 21 (MKC USCG - ret)
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To: mhking
You definitely held your own :) You scored several good points--when you countered Barron's "you don't speak for our people" comment with a riposte at Jackson; when you got Colmes to concede Jackson's comment was over the top; when you countered the "no WMD" charge by bringing up the planes buried in the desert; and when you drew the Japan analogy ("Hiroshima" notwithstanding, LOL!--I blanked like that once during a dissertation rehearsal, so I know how that feels :) The biggest challenge I thought you faced was being attacked by a hostile cohost and guest who tried to pre-empt genuine discussion by talking over you and changing the subject from Jackson to Iraq/Bush. Unfortunately most talk shows are run that way and they bring on flamboyant guests who talk over people and dodge issues like that. IMO some keys to counter that are to remain calm under fire, as you did; to rehearse putting your key points into soundbytes to make sure they get heard and not drowned out; to go on the offensive when an opportunity to make your key points presents itself (as you did when you drove the Japan analogy into Barron's court--I think this was perhaps the strongest point of your presentation); and to rehearse your counterattacks for the types of ambushes Colmes and Barron aimed at you. Colmes came across as a tougher debating opponent than Barron, I thought, because Barron was so obviously obnoxious and rude, whereas Colmes was able to maintain a facade of civility by distancing himself from Jackson's comments before attacking you; however you were able to capitalize on that by getting him to concede Jackson's comments were over the line, so you countered that effectively. In that exchange you scored a point on Colmes himself, so I'd definitely say you held your own, IMO.
159 posted on 04/28/2004 8:46:34 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: mhking
I was PROUD of YOU!

My boyfriend and I saw you...I mentioned to him you are a FREEPER...he and I shook our heads when we saw that other loud mouth just run rough shod all over that segment...personally I thought you did fine considering the rabid panic that is streaming (screaming) out of the left right now...you should appeal to Sean to visit the studio and appear LIVE...

You are no longer a "studio rookie" and I BEG you to go back and DEMAND more interviews and debates!

160 posted on 04/28/2004 8:54:00 AM PDT by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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To: mhking
Congratulations!!!

I wish, however, that I had gotten wind of your appearance sooner so I could have tuned in to watch. Any chance of someone getting a copy of the segment from FNC so us poor sods who were not fortunate enought to catch it can enjoy your sterling performance? If they post it on the web, I for one will be only too happy to view it.

161 posted on 04/28/2004 8:54:43 AM PDT by Utilizer
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To: Fedora
You scored several good points

Thanks!

"Hiroshima" notwithstanding, LOL!--I blanked like that once during a dissertation rehearsal, so I know how that feels :)

Just damn! I hated that! I kicked myself all the way home over that one!

when you drove the Japan analogy into Barron's court--I think this was perhaps the strongest point of your presentation

My younger brother is a political fence-sitter who was truly impressed by me last night. He's probably the best Constitutional scholar that I know (rivaling many doctoral candidates, IMO); and volunteered to help coach me on some of those points. He was truly impressed with the Japanese infrastructure concept, and said it made Barron look like a total lunatic.

Colmes came across as a tougher debating opponent than Barron

Agreed. Colmes was able to drive the conversation and take the wheel from me -- and had to, lest his buddy Barron get beaten completely into submision. By going to Iraq, where I was unprepared to go, he rattled my cage (and I WAS rattled, even if it didn't show).

however you were able to capitalize on that by getting him to concede Jackson's comments were over the line, so you countered that effectively. In that exchange you scored a point on Colmes himself, so I'd definitely say you held your own, IMO.

That was something I hadn't thought about. Thanks!

162 posted on 04/28/2004 8:55:40 AM PDT by mhking (You all have my eternal gratitude and prayers of thanks. God bless you all.)
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To: mhking
I was reading the story of Jacob's ladder to my 4 year old son Jacob at the time you were on...sure wish I could've caught it! Thanks for posting the recap!
163 posted on 04/28/2004 9:00:07 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Ask me why I'm smiling -- go ahead -- I DARE YA!!!!!)
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To: mhking
Count me as extremely proud of FReeper mhking!
164 posted on 04/28/2004 9:00:15 AM PDT by subterfuge (Liberalism is, as liberalism does.)
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To: mhking
I saw it (I didn't know who you are) and I thought you were far better than he was. Your concerns about being ambushed weren't reflected in your on-screen presence. Great job.
165 posted on 04/28/2004 9:18:54 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: mhking
I watched it and thought you did marvelous!!!
On top of being able to with-stand the babble coming at you.
Good job!!!

And God Bless you!
LP
166 posted on 04/28/2004 9:22:06 AM PDT by LadyPilgrim
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To: LadyPilgrim
Great job Michael!!!

167 posted on 04/28/2004 9:24:15 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (60 Senate seats changes America.)
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To: mhking
I saw you last night and I'm also on your list... You were outstanding! It's easy to reflect back on all the screeching and howling thats so typical of those on the left. Don't let it bother you! The folks you're speaking to understand that the idiots arguments don't hold a candle to logical, well delivered rebuttal... They offer nothing more than emotional vitriol...

Like I said, I thought you were outstanding!!!
168 posted on 04/28/2004 9:30:44 AM PDT by gatorgriz ("The world is full of bastards - the number ever increasing the further one gets from Missoula, MT")
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To: mhking
Outstanding job! Even without considering the handicaps you were working under I think you more than held your own. You did kindof go "deer in the headlights" when Colmes blindsided you, but just for a fraction of a second, then you came charging back. My wife said at that point "He's the FReeper? He is really well spoken.

Anybody can be surprised, but you get his measure by what he does next.

169 posted on 04/28/2004 9:34:01 AM PDT by magslinger (YKWH Akbar!)
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To: mhking
You did well, considering that liberals will never shut up and allow someone to talk. You had to talk over him, as most conservatives must do on any tv program.

The "slap the first white person" fellow sounded as if he has been hypnotized by the Communist Party USA....just spouts wild, goofy, over-the-top, silly crap....(besides, on my TV he appeared to have blue eyes...would that make the first white person he slaps possibily a relative?)

My only regret is that Colmes and this idiot from NY quickly left Jesse behind and the subject (Jackson's stupid comments) was swept under the rug.
170 posted on 04/28/2004 9:35:58 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: mhking
You did an excellent job! That man (Barron?) was angry and that only means you made your points with great success! :) Some of your expressions were priceless!
Hope we get to see you on again soon!
171 posted on 04/28/2004 9:39:36 AM PDT by GodBlessUSA (Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: mhking
Michael, you did GREAT last night! I re-watched my tape of your appearance... you DID manage to get a few words in edgewise over Barron's crazy rantings. Barron looked even loonier up against your calm demeanor and intelligent comments.

As I said in a previous post, I e-mailed Hannity after your appearance, requesting that Barron be barred from all future H&C shows, and that you are invited to appear again on H&C. Hope to see you again on Fox News (or elsewhere) sometime soon! :-)

172 posted on 04/28/2004 9:39:50 AM PDT by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John Fin al-Qerry)
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FoxFan ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my FoxFan list. *Warning: This can be a high-volume ping list at times.

173 posted on 04/28/2004 9:40:46 AM PDT by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John Fin al-Qerry)
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To: mhking
Come to find out that Mitchell (my 10 year old) yelled at Barron to shut up and let me talk; Lynese just wandered up to the TV, pointed, and said, "There's Daddy."

Then she waved. "Hi, Daddy!"

LOL! How cute... ;-)

174 posted on 04/28/2004 9:44:18 AM PDT by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John Fin al-Qerry)
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ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

175 posted on 04/28/2004 9:46:49 AM PDT by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John Fin al-Qerry)
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To: mhking
Watched! You did a fine job. Congrats and hope to see you more.
176 posted on 04/28/2004 9:48:28 AM PDT by zeaal
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To: mhking
"No, I'm not trying to speak for everyone. However, I never stopped to elect Jesse Jackson to speak for me," I retorted.

Reminds me of that scene from "Monty Python and the Holy Grail." It goes something like, "Who are you?" "I'm your lord." "Who made you my lord?" (Not an exact quote, but close enough.) Great job. Hope to see more of you.

177 posted on 04/28/2004 9:57:42 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Phantom Lord
Charles Barron has never added a single comment worth hearing to any show I have seen him on. Why does H&C keep bringing him on?

And why do they keep bring on William Bennett, the great moral hypocrite?

178 posted on 04/28/2004 10:06:01 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: mhking
I saw the beginning , You are definitly one of the good guys! Very proud of you Sir.
179 posted on 04/28/2004 10:15:16 AM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: nutmeg
Thanks for the ping! KUDOS to mhking! and hugs, of course!
180 posted on 04/28/2004 10:17:37 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
William Bennett, the great moral hypocrite?

Care to provide some examples?

181 posted on 04/28/2004 10:30:08 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: mhking
>"Hiroshima" notwithstanding, LOL!--I blanked like that once during a dissertation rehearsal, so I know how that feels :)

Just damn! I hated that! I kicked myself all the way home over that one

LOL! I know how that goes :) But really, it wasn't a big deal, because Barron wasn't sharp enough to capitalize on it. Instead his counter criticized you for bringing up Nagasaki (or Hiroshima--now I forget which it was myself, LOL!), so the focus didn't stay on your "blanking" for very long. It probably felt longer than it was :)

My younger brother is a political fence-sitter who was truly impressed by me last night. He's probably the best Constitutional scholar that I know (rivaling many doctoral candidates, IMO); and volunteered to help coach me on some of those points.

Very cool. Is he in Constitutional law or history or something like that?

He was truly impressed with the Japanese infrastructure concept, and said it made Barron look like a total lunatic.

Barron got very defensive when you brought it up--it looked like it caught him off-guard. I found myself wishing you had a chance to elaborate on it. I've always looked at Iraq reconstruction on analogy with Japan, too, and I wish there was a way to bring that point across to a wider audience. Maybe if you can get on a show where they give you more chance to talk--Dennis Miller does a pretty good job of keeping his panel discussions civil, maybe that's a possible forum where you might get a little more opportunity to express your views.

Colmes was able to drive the conversation and take the wheel from me -- and had to, lest his buddy Barron get beaten completely into submision. By going to Iraq, where I was unprepared to go, he rattled my cage (and I WAS rattled, even if it didn't show).

I noticed it a little when he ambushed you by calling you an "apologist" for the administration; but you rolled with the punch and stayed on your feet. Of course Colmes gets to practice sparring with Hannity every day so you'd expect he's going to get a few shots in the first time you appear on his show. But the fact that on your first time out you scored a point back on him showed your potential to compete in that type of arena. I think if you made some more appearances like that and perhaps wrote some articles you could have a real future in that type of thing if it's something that interests you.

182 posted on 04/28/2004 10:35:31 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: nutmeg; All
You did good Michael

You made ALan Colmes and that other dude your b*** Rack ittttt
183 posted on 04/28/2004 10:40:47 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Fedora
I noticed it a little when he ambushed you by calling you an "apologist" for the administration; but you rolled with the punch and stayed on your feet. Of course Colmes gets to practice sparring with Hannity every day so you'd expect he's going to get a few shots in the first time you appear on his show. But the fact that on your first time out you scored a point back on him showed your potential to compete in that type of arena. I think if you made some more appearances like that and perhaps wrote some articles you could have a real future in that type of thing if it's something that interests you.

My brother said he saw my shoulders tense -- my dad and grandfather tend to react the same way when rattled. And with both of 'em it's basically get out of the way. They both would mop the floor verbally with whoever got on 'em.

I'm definitely interested in heading down that path - I'm sure I could do well with it, given some more work on my part.

Thanks for the feedback! I really appreciate it!

184 posted on 04/28/2004 10:44:16 AM PDT by mhking (You all have my eternal gratitude and prayers of thanks. God bless you all.)
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To: mhking
My brother said he saw my shoulders tense -- my dad and grandfather tend to react the same way when rattled.

I noticed it in that, and also in the way you kind of scoffed and said, "Oh, please!" :) I said to myself, "Uh-oh, Colmes is about to bring out Michael's inner 'Just Damn!'" :) "Mr. McGee, don't make me angry. . ." :)

Glad to hear you're interested in pursuing more stuff like that. Hope the feedback is helpful. Thanks for going out there and making FR's voice heard!--made me feel like I had someone out there speaking for me, which was a nice change from yelling at the liberals on my TV all the time! :)

185 posted on 04/28/2004 11:05:48 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: mhking
You were terrific last night. You came across as intelligent, fully in control, and patient. Barron came across as a snarling, nasty hack.

You DO have a great presense on TV and you're going to be a natural leader.

Good job!!

186 posted on 04/28/2004 11:37:18 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: mhking
After I got home, I talked to my folks. I could hear my mom beaming through the phone. My dad? Well, my very liberal dad finally surprised me. "Well, boy, I don't agree with your politics, but you did good. You were polished and authoritative. I'm proud of you."

Yay ! Way to go ! Sounds like you did great ! I'm proud of you, too !!


187 posted on 04/28/2004 11:52:11 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: mhking
One of the few things that might make me reconsider allowing a television into my house. Then again, your firsthand account here on the Free Republic makes for some great reading.

You might feel self-conscious posting such accounts, but I urge you to continue. It's not egotism on your part, it's good journalism.

When you go on national television, it IS a big deal, and your telling of the tale is inspiring to those who would follow in your footsteps. Aside from all that, it's just darned interesting to read.

So kudos once again on a great showing, a great article and a principled stand for the truth.

Yours is a voice that MUST be heard. I pray that the nation will hear it much more often in the future, and may America hear you LOUD and CLEAR!

188 posted on 04/28/2004 12:38:55 PM PDT by Imal (Evolution is an intelligent design.)
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To: mhking; nutmeg
Congratulations, Michael! Your real family is proud, and your Freeper family is proud!

Thanks for the ping, nutmeg.
189 posted on 04/28/2004 12:42:29 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: mhking
Haven't read the thread so forgive if my comments are a duplicate of the kudos you deserve. When I heard you were debating that despicable Barron I cringed, but you certainly held your own and managed to get under his skin. He should be thrown out of office for his racist comments and foxnews and others disappoint by giving him a forum.

I felt your frustration in trying to be heard over all three, but what little you did say was right on.

190 posted on 04/28/2004 12:46:28 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: mhking
P.S. Regarding that "idiot son" business. You aren't the problem, and you know it, and we know you know it. ;^)
191 posted on 04/28/2004 12:47:37 PM PDT by Imal (Evolution is an intelligent design.)
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To: McGavin999; mhking
You were terrific last night. You came across as intelligent, fully in control, and patient. Barron came across as a snarling, nasty hack.
Michael, I missed it. But it certainly sounds like I should have tuned it in!

I told McGavin999 long ago that I so consistently agree with what she posts that she might almost as well sign my name to her posts.

So I take her word for it that you were terrific.


192 posted on 04/28/2004 12:48:38 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Homepage is where the (political) heart is.)
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To: mhking
Wow, I am impressed. Wish I had known that was you last night. You were great.
193 posted on 04/28/2004 12:52:01 PM PDT by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. **-Michelangelo)
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To: mhking
I tivoed it and remembered you were on! I watched it last eve around midnight and when you came on I cheered out loud for you! Hooray! You did great! I hope to see you on the news shows again!
194 posted on 04/28/2004 12:53:04 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: mhking
I didn't realize that was you. I caught your segment, thought "Finally a decent guest is holding his own" and then flipped the channel when some liberals tried to talk over you (as is their typical behavior).

Nice job. I like the example that you are setting.

195 posted on 04/28/2004 12:56:48 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: mhking
You did do very well, Michael. Barron is almost impossible to handle. Sean was trying but he's like a bucking bronco. Did you hear Sean at the end say "You wanna slap me? Make yourself feel better?"

I didn't realize it was such a well-known freeper I was watching. Congratulations!
196 posted on 04/28/2004 1:01:15 PM PDT by johnb838 ("I really don't care; they're all gonna die," US Marine in Fallujah)
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To: mhking
I saw the segment ... and the NY Liberal came off just as you'd expect.

You sounded/looked great ... you remained polite to the cretin under difficult circumstances, which I couldn't have done.

Send congratulations and thanks to your parents for doing such a good job. They should be very proud.

197 posted on 04/28/2004 1:23:42 PM PDT by CIBvet (It's about preserving OUR Borders, OUR Language and OUR American Culture)
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To: mhking
Saw you! I thought you did great.

The guy in the Neru jacket (does anyone else still wear these?) was quite pompous.

Between Hannity interrupting you with his long winded speeches and the Neru jacket man, it's hard to get a point in but you did! Congrats.

198 posted on 04/28/2004 1:56:29 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: mhking
Congratulations!
199 posted on 04/28/2004 2:01:21 PM PDT by ELS
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To: mhking
You were great. Reasonable people distrust someone who has to yell and stamp their feet and know they are trying to censor their opponent because their argument is weak.

You came across as professional and resolute. You done more good than you give yourself credit for!
200 posted on 04/28/2004 2:28:15 PM PDT by Bob J (freerepublic.net/ radiofreerepublic.com/rightalk.com...check them out!)
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