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Death of Freedoms of Speech, Religion In Canada
CFAC - Canada Family Action Coalition ^ | April 28, 2004 | CFAC Press Release

Posted on 04/28/2004 7:03:12 PM PDT by GMMAC

Liberal dominated Senate Oppresses Free Speech CFAC News Release April 28, 2004 - For Immediate Release

"Today the Senate sounded the final death knell in legislation that will severely limit free speech and freedom of religion and even freedom of the press in Canada," says Brian Rushfeldt, Executive Director, Canada Family Action Coalition (CFAC). "As other democratic nations watch in amazement, Martin's Liberal government and the Liberal controlled Senate have passed Bill C-250, a draconian piece of legislation that will criminalize people who express an opinion contrary to homosexual behaviour, including views based on religion, conscience, morality, and even medical or humanitarian concerns."

Given the undefined, ambiguous wording in this severely flawed piece of legislation, Christians and other faith groups are worried that expressing their religious or moral views, or even quoting from the Bible or another religious text, may become a criminal act, says Rushfeldt. Every Canadian citizen who publicly opposes homosexual behavior will be criminalized, he says.

He points out that terms in the legislation, including 'hatred', 'promoting hatred' and 'sexual orientation' remain undefined. They will be determined only one is "taken" to court.

"I have been accused by homosexual activists of 'promoting hatred' simply for expressing the view that marriage should remain defined as between one man and one woman. Will expressing that view now make me a criminal? Will a religious leader who expresses the view that homosexuality is immoral be convicted of a hate crime? Will a parent who refuses to allow her child to take a sex education class promoting homosexuality be criminalized? Nobody can answer those questions, for it will now be up to the courts to interpret the ambiguous wording in this legislation."

Based on recent court decisions, CFAC has grave concerns about how this law will be applied and interpreted by judges. "There is a growing trend among courts and human rights tribunals to rule against religious freedom in favor of homosexual 'rights'," he points out.

"Civilized democracies are founded upon basic principles of freedom of speech, thought, opinion and religion. The Canadian Liberal government and the Senate have struck a severe and destructive blow against democratic freedoms. It is a little like Communists arresting someone because some authority decided you broke some law."

"The only solution now is to elect a government that will rescind or amend this dangerous undemocratic law. The fight is not over. We will be asking people not to vote for those MPs responsible for this."


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: canada; churchandstate; family; freedomofreligion; gayagenda; homosexualagenda; totalitarianism
A day of imfamy !!! Work even harder to elect Conservatives!!!
1 posted on 04/28/2004 7:03:17 PM PDT by GMMAC
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To: GMMAC
Could be worse, the city of Hamtramck Mi decided to allow the 5 times daily call to muslim prayer. The ACLU is noticably AWOL on this one.
2 posted on 04/28/2004 7:07:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek (you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
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To: GMMAC
Is there any mainstream coverage of this? The National Post website didn't mention it.
3 posted on 04/28/2004 7:50:49 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: GMMAC
Wow, and the Canadians despise the USA for being heavy-handed?
4 posted on 04/28/2004 7:53:32 PM PDT by RanchoStash
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To: GMMAC
We are very close to having similar laws enacted in this country.

It will be interesting how the Canadians react. My bet is there will be a few vocal complaints, but in the end they will do nothing and simply sell their free speech to the socialist mob without hardly a whimper.

5 posted on 04/28/2004 7:54:36 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: GMMAC
It should be all over the newspapers tomorrow.

The Liberal Party of Canada has unleashed the hounds of anti-Christian bigotry in Canada. A grievous blow has been delivered to those of us in Canada who fight for our liberty, but we are not defeated yet. We will fight on and we intend to make this a major issue and rallying point in the upcoming federal election.

6 posted on 04/28/2004 7:57:09 PM PDT by Entropy Squared
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To: Entropy Squared
Americans should send in weapons to rational thinking Canadians so they can break away from the morons that im guessing live in the Eastern part of the country. There is plenty of land to go around.
7 posted on 04/28/2004 8:10:23 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: Entropy Squared
this was my rant about Canadians a couple of days ago and it still applies today....

This was concerning home schoolers not being allowed religious materials for home schooling.

the posted comment I replied to was..This is outrageous! How could this happen in a country (Canada) with political and religious freedoms similar to our own?

They have NOTHING that is similar to our freedoms. The Canadians "Earned" their freedom with distances.... the distance they are from the US and the distance they are from the UK and France.

They are basically a group of ungrateful parasites that wouldn't know a tyrant/dictator/terrorist thug if he banged them all night.

In other words they are a 3rd world country with pretensions of grandeur offered a country that sucks up to liberals and is good for nothing more than hockey, snow, beer, nice looking blonde women and an occasionally funny comedienne. You'll notice that to "MAKE IT BIG" they have to come use our "evil capitalistic", "crude", "Over patriotic" dollar bills.

Hey Canada,

Lay down, take it like the whiny beeaattches you are and don't fight for your rights. Elect more libs and your daughters will soon have the right to wear veils, and you can beat the snot out of your wife if you feel like it. The only problem is that you'll have to pray 5 times a day and get rid of "Canadian Bacon".

Add this to any Canadian that may read my previous rant in case any of them think I'm envious of what our northern neighbor has......

I'm not jealous in anyway to what your country (Canada) has to offer.... I'm from Texas and I'll stack our beer (Shiner Bock), our blondes (too many to name), our comediennes (go to any nickel beer night at the Dixie Chicken)..... and just kneel and thank God that boys in Texas would rather play football, hunt deer and fornicate with the aforementioned blondes than play hockey. ... or you'd really hate our guts and boo our national anthem.

I'm generally a civil person but if I'm at the arena and Tampa plays a Canadian team again and I hear a "boo" during our national anthem... call security and a gastroenterologist to pull my size 10 out of your rear end.

'nuff said. and Amen.

8 posted on 04/28/2004 8:13:53 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is .)
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To: Entropy Squared
One would hope that cardinals, bishops, archbishops and about anyone else in authority would open their mouths in support of the right to say what one will on the issue of homosexuality, or by extension, many another controversy. Canadians are looking dumb, dumber or dumbest. When the islamists take over while Canada sleeps, free speech will be dealt another blow in Canada, perhaps its final blow.
9 posted on 04/28/2004 8:14:34 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: mathurine
The Canadian Catholic Bishops' Conference has registered objections, but they have been as effective as their protestations on same sex marriage and abortion, i.e., ineffective:

http://www.cccb.ca/PublicStatements.htm?NL=1&CD=421&ID=1510
10 posted on 04/28/2004 8:21:00 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: mathurine
Rank and file Canadians do not want this legislation, at least those with the wits to understand what it means. It was rammed down our throats by the anti-Christian Liberal Party of Canada, which is the Party of Officially Sanctioned Bigotry.

Those of us who know why we are free will fight on, for us the war will never end as long as there are people determined to take away our liberty.

I've been saying for quite a while that contemporary liberalism is one step away from National Socialism and the Liberal Party of Canada is proving me right once again.

11 posted on 04/28/2004 8:22:14 PM PDT by Entropy Squared
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To: GMMAC
I've spent some time in Canada, and I think the problem may be that they're just a little bit... slow. Well, actually, stupid is a better word.

Why? Simple. The smart ones all came here.

Seriously, this is another problem that's being caused by our extremely liberal immigration policies. The brains of all the world are emigrating to the United States, leaving the dumb-dumbs behind. That's one reason things are going the way the are, internationally.

(steely)

12 posted on 04/28/2004 8:22:36 PM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: GMMAC
If the Canadians let this stand they will soon live in a complete fascist dictatorship. One should be able to criticize whatever one pleases, including God, MOM and Apple Pie. Or whatever the canadian equivalents are. Hockey, MOM & Molsons?
13 posted on 04/28/2004 8:22:46 PM PDT by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: GMMAC
Something has gone terribly wrong in Canada. I am amazed a nation with an Anglo Saxon common law tradition would do this. I wish I were aware of a sharp Canadian Freeper who could help me with some of this. It does remind us just how precious the First Amendment is in the US, and we should be grateful SCOTUS has interpreted it in a very robust way, and finds the speech trumps everything else in the Constitution where they is a conflict.
14 posted on 04/28/2004 8:23:55 PM PDT by Torie
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To: GMMAC; Dixi Veritas
As other democratic nations watch in amazement, ...

I'm not so sure Canada qualifies as a democracy anymore.   :(   I know they are a nice and kind people, but their media and government are getting out of control.

15 posted on 04/28/2004 8:25:47 PM PDT by Bilbo Baggins
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To: Torie
Something has gone terribly wrong in Canada. I am amazed a nation with an Anglo Saxon common law tradition would do this. I wish I were aware of a sharp Canadian Freeper who could help me with some of this. It does remind us just how precious the First Amendment is in the US, and we should be grateful SCOTUS has interpreted it in a very robust way, and finds the speech trumps everything else in the Constitution where they is a conflict.

You are correct, something has gone terribly wrong in Canada, in the early 1980's a new constitution was imposed upon the citizenry, a citizenry that had no say whatsoever as to the content of the constitution or as to whether or not they approved of it. The constitution is insanely flawed and effectively unamendable.

To make matters worse, they flogged off on us something called the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which was supposed to be Canada's answer to America's Bill of Rights but is anything but. The Bill of Rights is designed to protect individuals' freedom and liberty, Canada's version is designed to establish group rights. It even goes so far as to name groups of Special Canadians who are more equal than others.

I have to admit, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is working perfectly for what is was designed to do, create and enhance the politics of division, which is great for Liberals.

The Charter also paved the way for the Supreme Court to begin to write law, a power they are now wielding with relish and glee.

16 posted on 04/28/2004 8:35:21 PM PDT by Entropy Squared
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To: GMMAC
INTREP - WE CANNOT AFFORD TO IGNORE THIS - THIS IS THE GRAVEST THREAT TO OUR WAY OF LIFE, AND OUR FREEDOMS
17 posted on 04/28/2004 8:45:13 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Dick Vomer
Your post is getting a little tired there, don't you think Dick?
18 posted on 04/28/2004 8:45:58 PM PDT by NorthOf45
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To: Entropy Squared
Do you think this might jump start a secession movement in Alberta, if this excrement stands?
19 posted on 04/28/2004 8:52:11 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Entropy Squared
With all of these recent issues, moderate liberals have got to take notice and question the merits of their parties actions. One can hope that the left is packaging their own intraparty demise.
20 posted on 04/28/2004 8:52:21 PM PDT by NorthOf45
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To: Torie
This will not play well in Alberta at all.
21 posted on 04/28/2004 8:56:24 PM PDT by Entropy Squared
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To: Entropy Squared
By the way, I am in favor of gay marriage. But traducing anyone's freedom of speech, particularly on matters before the public square, is so totally unacceptable, so enervating of a robust democracy, that I simply am amazed Canadians would go there. I simply don't understand it.
22 posted on 04/28/2004 9:00:26 PM PDT by Torie
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To: NorthOf45
With all of these recent issues, moderate liberals have got to take notice and question the merits of their parties actions. One can hope that the left is packaging their own intraparty demise.

There were a lot of Liberals who voted against this in the House, but it still squeaked by. The Liberals had better call an election fast before the persecutions begin under this bill. We intend on shining as bright a light as possible on all persecutions and prosecutions this bill causes.

And we may not have to shine the light too far. Connie and I have received several threats saying Free Dominion will be the first group the homosexual lobby is going to come after. I say, "Bring it on!"

23 posted on 04/28/2004 9:02:05 PM PDT by Entropy Squared
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To: Entropy Squared
Things are getting worst right in front of my eyes :(
24 posted on 04/28/2004 9:03:00 PM PDT by Tropicalwatcher
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To: GMMAC
This law needs to be broken, publicly, repeatedly, so often by so many that it becomes unenforceable.
25 posted on 04/28/2004 9:05:44 PM PDT by Loyalist (Kasper for Pope: Because things won't get better until they can't get any worse!)
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To: Entropy Squared
I suspect there will be contest to see who can get to be the first to be prosecuted. A smart opposition would endeavor to make it a sympathetic figure, rather than a rabid hater. Of course, the perps will seek out the hater.
26 posted on 04/28/2004 9:06:04 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Steely Tom
I've spent some time in Canada
and I think the problem may be that they're just a little bit... slow.
Well, actually, stupid is a better word.

Your observation is correct.

27 posted on 04/28/2004 9:09:37 PM PDT by Allan
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To: NorthOf45
Your post is getting a little tired there, don't you think Dick?

yeah.. I guess but, I'm just frustrated.... it seems that all our "friends" are screwing us.

It's weird that the UK and Ausies have the only leadership we can count on... and I don't know seems that unless I unload a rant now and then my head will explode.

Oh well, I just wanted the Canadians to not miss a fire and forget rant.... I got hacked off when they booed our national anthem and are proud of being a haven for deserters... it still makes me upset about the booing of our anthem by Canadians... like we're the bad guys and the frickin' Taliban are the victims..

Now back to "original" programming....

28 posted on 04/28/2004 9:22:18 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is .)
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To: Dick Vomer
Try to keep in mind that we're not all the same up here. Canadians were annoyed by the booing as well. As for the deserters, it's not a done deal yet. Remember too that a lot of the Anti-American rhetoric comes from out liberal government and from certain biased media outlets. Hopefully the election will clear up a lot of this BS.
29 posted on 04/28/2004 9:28:19 PM PDT by NorthOf45
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To: GMMAC
Apparently the homosexual activist sponsor of this hateful bill is himself guilty of hate speech against Christians and Americans. From the Envoy Magazine Blog (http://www.envoymagazine.com/EnvoyEncore/Detail.asp?BlogID=1804):

FROM THE SAME HOMOSEXUAL CANADIAN POLITICIAN WHO RIDICULED 9/11... [ Pete Vere ] 13 Comment(s) ...comes a bill that would outlaw the Bible and Catechism in Canada.

4/14/2004 8:22:05 PM

I kid you not. Canadians are now on the verge of losing their religious and civil liberties. Private Member's Bill C-250 will potentially outlaw the Bible and the Catechism of the Catholic Church in Canada as hate literature. What frightens me and other Canadian Christians is that the bill already passed our House of Commons and is on the verge of passing in the Senate as well.

Bill C-250 is a private member’s bill that enshrines “sexual orientation” in Canada’s anti-hate speech laws. It leaves the expressions “sexual orientation” and “hate speech” undefined. Yet in recent rulings upheld by Canada's human rights tribunals, simply quoting from the Bible and other religious texts can now land you massive fines with the threat of incarceration. Perhaps it is providential that Envoy Magazine has added an electronic edition so that our Canadian readership can remain informed.

The sponsor of Bill C-250 is none other than Svend Robinson. Mr. Robinson hails from the electoral riding of Burnaby in British Columbia. Besides being a member of the Canadian parliament, he is also Canada’s most well-known homosexual. Mr. Robinson abandoned his wife midway through his career as a socialist politician to pursue a male lover. Nevertheless, he should not be confused with the Episcopalian bishop of New Hampshire.

Of course, in Svend’s Canada mocking Christians and insulting Americans does not constitute hate speech. Asked what he thought of born-again Christians, Newsmax reports Svend’s response as follows: “Did they have to come back again as themselves?”

Even more shameful is Mr. Robinson’s response to a recent Canadian effort to support our neighbors to the south during a time of national tragedy. “According to Mr. Robinson,” the National Post reports, “9/11 might instead be named ‘Chile Day' - a sneering reference to the fact that Chilean president Salvador Allende died on the same day in a 1973 U.S.- backed military coup that resulted in shameful bloodshed.”

John Pacheco is one of the key individuals organizing a protest against Bill C-250 on parliament hill for this coming weekend. He discusses the threat this bill poses to religious and civil liberties in Canada on Ottawa's Christian radio station this morning.

John is working with Connie Wilkins who operates FreeDominion.ca -- the Canadian affiliate of FreeRepublic. Connie has set up the following website detailing the Freedom Day protest on Parliament Hill this Saturday: http://www.freedominion.ca/libertyday.htm

Connie and John also sent me the following press-release detailing this event. Below it, I've detailed some ideas on what our sympathetic American neighbours can do to help us:

------------ Ottawa, April 14, 2004 (National Liberty Day Committee)

On Saturday April 17, 2004, thousands of Canadians will converge on Parliament Hill to uphold and defend the fundamental freedoms of speech and religious liberty, and to express their opposition to the totalitarian impulse currently asserting itself in the legislative and judicial branches of the Canadian government.

The rally has been called to draw attention to the imminent passage of Bill C-250, the proposed legislation which seeks to effectively criminalize the _expression of opinions against homosexual behaviour. Organizers and participants believe that the passage of the Bill will accelerate the current persecution of Christians, Muslims, and other conscientious opponents of the homosexual lifestyle. It is feared that the Bill will be used as an intimidation ploy to silence dissent and discussion on the moral and public health risks of the homosexual activity.

Participants are to gather at the Supreme Court at 2:00pm and then peacefully march to Parliament Hill for the demonstration which will feature music as well as speeches from politicians, religious leaders, and other prominent citizens. Organizers are encouraging participants to bring their Canadian flags as a sign of solidarity and unity. The event is scheduled to end by 4:30pm.

For more information on the rally, visit the National Liberty Day Rally webpage at: http://www.freedominion.ca/libertyday.htm -------------------------------

Unfortunately, as previously noted, we Canadians cannot go this alone. Nor can American Christians allow Canadian Christians to fall behind enemy lines in the culture war. So what can you do to help us?

Well, come to the protest if it is possible. If not, please keep us in prayer. Additionally, please remember that despite the anti-Christian and anti-American sentiment of Canada's cultural left, our government still understands that Canadian tourism depends quite a bit on the American dollar. So please go to the following website and tell the Ministry of Tourism that you are an American and a Christian with lots of tourist dollars, that you find Svend's comments about 9/11 offensive, and that you feel Bill C-250 is an encroachment of religious liberty in Canada. The contact URL for our Ministry of Tourism is:

http://www.tourism.gov.on.ca/english/feedback/feedback.html

30 posted on 04/28/2004 10:47:59 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: GMMAC
Ignore the LAW!
31 posted on 04/28/2004 11:14:51 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: NorthOf45
"Your post is getting a little tired there, don't you think Dick?"

You might be right, but if I were you I'd avoid booing US teams, our flag, or the Alamo unless I had a large crowd at my back.

But take heart; a short visit to your local mexican embassy should provide all you need to know about our much discussed border security and I think President Bush is still offering candies to anyone seeking 'a better life across the border'.

32 posted on 04/29/2004 7:03:21 AM PDT by norton
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To: GMMAC
But ... but ... but what about the Canadian Muslims? Are they going to get to continue to preach "hatred" against homosexuality, or does this bill only apply to Christians?
33 posted on 04/29/2004 8:19:20 AM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: Unam Sanctam
Is there any mainstream coverage of this? The National Post website didn't mention it.

I was wrong about it being all over the old style news media.

The passing of this bill was a major, and very contentious, issue all over Canada. It was argued in the homes and at the watercoolers. Politicians of all stripes made public statements concerning their position on the bill.

Finally, those opposed to the bill held a filibuster in the Senate to block its passage. That filibuster was finally broken yesterday and the bill was rammed through.

Media reaction? Silence. An eerie, uniform silence from the newspapers across the land. As far as the old style media is concerned, the passage of Bill C-250 didn't happen. There was no controversy. There was no Bill C-250. Since there was no Bill C-250 there was no need to write stories about its passing yesterday.

Uniform, appalling, silence from them all.

Very chilling!

34 posted on 04/29/2004 8:46:50 AM PDT by Entropy Squared
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To: Entropy Squared
This would appear to say it passed it's third reading. Does that mean passed?

http://www.parl.gc.ca/37/3/parlbus/chambus/senate/deb-e/034db_2004-04-28-E.htm?Language=E&Parl=37&Ses=3#42

Two other seemingly mainstream reports seem to say that it is passed:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/cpress/20040428/ca_pr_on_na/gays_hate_law_2

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/04/28/canada/hatelaw040428
35 posted on 04/29/2004 9:09:52 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
Yes, third reading does mean it passed.

So far we have found only two stories in all of Canada's print media. One of them was only a couple paragraphs at the bottom of an article about another issue. Had this bill been voted down, there would have been screaming headlines coast-to-coast.

36 posted on 04/29/2004 9:22:45 AM PDT by Entropy Squared
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To: GMMAC
Sadly this will affect only half the churches. The good half.
37 posted on 04/29/2004 9:59:10 AM PDT by HarleyD (For strong is he who carries out God's word. (Joel 2:11))
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To: Dick Vomer; Entropy Squared
I think you're overgeneralizing a bit in your comments on Canadians. I have a Canadian friend who is a clergyman in another denomination (i.e. he's *not* Anglican). From what he's told me - the leftists in power a couple of decades ago redid the Canadian Constitution just the way folks like hitlary, shumer, and john ('f-in') kerry would *like* to do to ours. It gave the majority of the power to the leftists in the eastern cities, and left the conservatives (both rural and urban) largely without a voice. I don't know all the specifics of how this was accomplished, but it seems they mostly used 'divide and conquer' tactics by splitting off as many special interest groups as they could and making those special interests more or less dependent on leftist government policies. Most of the folks in Western and Northern Canada do NOT agree with their federal government and have made that very clear - unlike the United States, Canadian Provinces may vote to suspend/ignore federal laws - they have to do it as soon as the law is passed, and it has to be renewed by popular vote on a regular basis (I think it's every 5 years?), but it can be, and has been done. That's why some western provinces have simply refused to enforce Canada's gun registration law, for example. What's funny, in a dark sort of way, is the fact that both the leftist Canadian press and their counterparts here in the States have pretty much refused to even acknowledge such things occur. None the less, one has to realize that Canada is becoming just as fragmented and polarized as we are...which in turn poses some interesting possibilities for the future.
38 posted on 04/29/2004 11:23:36 AM PDT by ahadams2 (Anglican Freeper Resource Page: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican/)
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To: All
I'm not Canadian but it does seem there's something rotten in the State of Canada. I was watching O'Reilly last nite and his opening monologue dealt with the military deserters questions. Tucked away in that monologue was a quote from a letter O'Reilly recieved from a Canadian citizen:

"Paul in Kingston, Ontario writes, "I feel real anger towards Canadian media people who are so blatantly anti-American. Please do not use my last name, I fear government reprisal."

Ok, now there are crackpots everywhere that think "the government is out to get 'em" and maybe the above individual is one of them I don't know but then again - maybe not.
39 posted on 04/29/2004 11:33:15 AM PDT by kjvail
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To: ahadams2
Canada is becoming fragmented and polarized just as the Liberals desired when they imposed the Canadian Constitution and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms on the citizens of Canada. With liberals, the politics of division are everything and the Liberals in Canada are giving the world a seminar in how it is done. The constitution is designed to cause division among geographical regions, and the Charter is designed to cause division by focusing on group rights instead of individual rights and by making some groups more special than others. Both are a guarantee of division and strife at several levels, which is the environment in which Liberal thrive.
40 posted on 04/29/2004 11:44:38 AM PDT by Entropy Squared
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To: Loyalist
You may think it's a little queer, but I pledge to work until I'm all fag-tired and my wrist goes limp from typing, breaking this gay "law".
41 posted on 04/29/2004 12:22:29 PM PDT by jodorowsky
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Bump for later
42 posted on 04/29/2004 1:27:13 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Entropy Squared
How about the Canadian Constitution and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms -- is there any freedom of speech protection analogous to the US' First Amendment that could be used to trump statutory "hate speech" laws? Of course the protections here in the US only exist because judiciary interpretation has broadly interpreted the right to free speech, esp. with Oliver Wendell Holmes' "clear and present danger" standard as to when incendiary speech may be outlawed. Given the track record of the Canadian judiciary in cracking down on Christians' rights, I'm sure they would find a way to uphold the statute.
43 posted on 04/29/2004 2:38:17 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Entropy Squared
The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms has the following two provisions:

1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.

2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: (a) freedom of conscience and religion; (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; (c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and (d) freedom of association.

I guess a court could find that the "hate speech" laws would be "reasonable limits" under clause 1 that would obviate the rights under clause 2.

44 posted on 04/29/2004 2:57:19 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: GMMAC
Hedonism is still OK.
45 posted on 04/29/2004 3:08:34 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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