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Islam: The World's Most Dangerous Ideology
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| 29 April 2004
| Dorothy Anne Seese
Posted on 04/29/2004 5:25:28 PM PDT by MegaSilver
The nation of Israel is a nearly sixty year old sore spot in the present-day Middle East, it costs American taxpayers a lot of money to support (billions per year), it's the focus of dispensational Christian theology, but ... Israel can take care of itself. Really. All the US has to do is say "sic 'em" and walk away.
The US has a major problem with its role in the present world conflict because it has a religious underpinning in Islamic theology that has again reared its head. The Ottoman Empire was not defeated in 1918, at the end of World War I. The Arab/Islamic nations simply split up, some being created by Britain and/or the useless League of Nations (predecessor to the useless United Nations) and went on being Islamic nations, Arab or not. The most secularized nation of the former Ottoman Empire, Turkey, underwent massive transitions toward westernization under Ataturk, but Islam is still the primary religion of the people even though Turkey has no state religion. Turkish people are not Arabic in ethnicity, although they have a significant Arab population with a growing pro-Islamic population.
As to the balance of the Middle East, including and focusing on times with the holy cities of Islam Mecca and Medina in Saudi Arabia, Islam is the national religion. But Islamic peoples aren't staying at home.
The migration of the Muslims into England, Ireland, France, Germany and other European nations, including the territory in Spain once occupied by the Moors of North Africa (Islamic people), and into nations in the Western Hemisphere (primarily the United States) the world has an enormous problem with an idelology/religion of conquest and conversion at sword's point.
When the American press speaks of the Arab nations, they are careful to avoid the religious implications lest the jihad or holy war become exposed for what it really is: a worldwide movement by Islam to migrate, settle, acquire wealth and power by numbers, and procede with the Islamic agenda of world domination. "Islamic radicals" is the term used to differentiate actively terrorist Islamics from those who are not yet active.
This just isn't being given the press it deserves because America and Europe are in the "do not offend" mode of classic national stupidity which arrests all preventative action until eventually peaceful resolution is no longer possible and bloodshed occurs. To Islam, the West represents the focus and home base of Christianity regardless of where it was really birthed, in the Middle East. It was in the West that Christianity grew, and both Judaism and Christianity are to Islam mortal enemies to be eradicated.
The US has done its best to appease the Islamics, which includes allowing them to migrate into the US as students or tourists and simply become a part of the population. In any jihad, it is clear that the Islamic beliefs will dominate any alternative course of action on the part of the Muslim population, like neutrality, which would be treason to the cause of Allah.
For the life of me I cannot understand the US policy that I've viewed since the last days of Franklin Delano Roosevelt through the Truman administration and on into the present day, consisting of no-win partial war and grand appeasement of our enemies. To me, the United States is a sovereign nation and can alter its immigration laws as it pleases. Apparently it pleases the leadership of the US to ignore the world ambitions of Islam, since Arab nations sit on the world's major source of oil. If another nation did that, our media would accuse them of selling out their country for profit. A few American writers have expressed that opinion, but fairly quietly.
Islam as a threat to the world around it is over 1400 years old, dating back to the seventh century A.D. By the year 1,000 A.D. the advanced Persian civilization, with medicine, astronomy, advanced mathematics, literature and other marks of civilization was plunged back into the darkest of dark ages by the advance of Islam. Even Omar Khayyam had to flee to Samarkand to avoid the Assassins, which name has been transliterated into the English language. Its origin is in Islam, the name being assigned to hit squads of Muslim "radicals" who carried out a religious contract against any opposition leader or popular figure.
Whether the United States maintains its secular status as a free society for all religious beliefs, which is the sum of the First Amendment religion clause, Islam is not a party to any treaty with either secular or religious nations. It has one doctrine: conquer for Allah. If the American leadership believes it has a bunch of Ataturk clones in the present-day Arab dictators or warlords, it is dead wrong and many Americans are dead in wars with these folks who are so peaceful.
Americans insist on producing and using conventional weapons of warfare, a useless and bloody way to fight an ideology. The early Christians grew under intense persecution, that's the way ideologies are. National wars are fought with conventional weaponry, nation against nation until one surrenders. That is not the course of ideological warfare.
This is not a diatribe designed to spawn hatred of any religion, it is merely an analysis of the times, trends and events that are affecting all our lives and the factors of which the world and the United States must be wary in order to be able to protect what few freedoms we have left (compared to the freedoms our forefathers enjoyed prior to World War I). Americans are notoriously ill-informed when it comes to the various threats to its people and its national security, finding enemies where there is little proof that they exist as such, and not finding enemies in nations or in ideologies that are capable of bringing down our nation and killing millions of our people.
Call it terrorism if you like, certainly the basis of Islam fits the description of terrorism but not every Muslim subscribes to volunteering as a terrorist. At least not willingly. So far, all the terrorists have been Islamic, that doesn't mean they always will be. Nor does the fact that many Muslims are peaceful neighbors mean they always will be. Right now, Islam is still the world's most dangerous ideology. Europeans and Americans need to recognize that publicly and begin to unwind the coils of Islam present in the various Western world's countries. Otherwise, the growth and spread of Islam will continue until it is the world's dominant force. Personally, I think it will be contained prior to that time, but that may only be wishful thinking.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: eurabia; islam; madpoet; muslims
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FINALLY, someone with spine enough to speak the truth!
E-mail this brave woman at dottie@politicalusa.com and congratulate her for saying what the Alphabet Soup Wimps won't.
To: Admin Moderator
Could you add a "mailto:" on the e-mail URL? Sorry!
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posted on
04/29/2004 5:26:06 PM PDT
by
MegaSilver
(Training a child in red diapers is the cruelest and most unusual form of abuse.)
To: MegaSilver
Ya know, Dennis Prager came to speak here at UCSC recently, c/o some local Jewish groups. He is a genius. Anyhoo...he said that he believes 3 worldviews will face off:
1. Islam
2. European Secular Socialism
3. American Judeo-Christian Capitalism
The fate of the world lies on the outcome of this, and the only good outcome would be the victory of good ol' number 3.
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posted on
04/29/2004 5:32:53 PM PDT
by
UCSC Republican
(Guns don't kill people. Abortion clinics kill people.)
Earlier, I wrote a blog on the "how to" of dealing with the threat:
http://megasilver.blog-city.com/
Basically, I suggested that we had two viable options: Crusade or isolationism.
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posted on
04/29/2004 5:33:51 PM PDT
by
MegaSilver
(Training a child in red diapers is the cruelest and most unusual form of abuse.)
To: MegaSilver
Good job. Very well written on a complex subject.
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posted on
04/29/2004 5:34:53 PM PDT
by
Smartass
(BUSH & CHENEY 2004 - THE BEST GET BETTER)
To: MegaSilver
They are a virus and should be dealt with accordingly.
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posted on
04/29/2004 5:35:30 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
To: MegaSilver
Why did Queen Isabel expell the Moors from, Spain?????
To: MegaSilver
Islam: The World's Most Dangerous Ideology Liberalism would be a good second.
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posted on
04/29/2004 5:38:26 PM PDT
by
Genesis defender
(CTRL + ALT + DEL + ZOT = ???)
To: MegaSilver
"The migration of the Muslims into England, Ireland, France, Germany and other European nations, including the territory in Spain once occupied by the Moors of North Africa (Islamic people), and into nations in the Western Hemisphere (primarily the United States) the world has an enormous problem with an idelology/religion of conquest and conversion at sword's point. "Muslims means of conquest will be less the sword and more abortion and the contraception pill. Their WMD is really Worldwide Migrating Demographics.
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posted on
04/29/2004 5:45:00 PM PDT
by
ex-snook
(Neocon Chickenhawk for War like Liberal Cuckoo for Welfare. Both freeload.)
To: MegaSilver
Brilliant, it seems that some people are finally beginning to understand what we are up against.
I am however not as optimistic in the final outcome as the author is.
The majority of Americans and Europeans still to this day consider Islam to be merely a religion and have yet to come to the realization that it is in fact something much more sinister.
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posted on
04/29/2004 5:45:31 PM PDT
by
expatguy
(Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
To: MegaSilver
Do you enjoy spreading evil misconceptions?
To: UCSC Republican
He's underestimating the role of Asia in the future. There are a number of countries there that will play a more significant role in the future than dead-weights like France and Germany: China, a united Korea, India, Indonesia, Japan, Pakistan. Ideologically, they are not motivated by any of those three that Prager lists. To leave nationalism off the list is ignorant.
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posted on
04/29/2004 5:50:06 PM PDT
by
GulliverSwift
(Bring back the Munsters. Vote for Jean Kerry!)
To: MegaSilver
Islam is growing, but it would become a lesser option to many over other ideologies, if the woman of Islam spoke up and did something to challenge their men over lack of freedom and respect they receive, compared to woman in other societies.
The woman's revolution in the west, started long ago and has stabilized. Yet not for Islamic countries, where the woman's movement is a ticking time bomb. These woman have a key to the future, even though never discussed seriously by anybody since in most peoples minds the Islamic terrorist are unified and male.
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posted on
04/29/2004 5:52:44 PM PDT
by
seastay
To: MegaSilver
Muslims as a whole are evil people. If they're not out committing terrorist acts, then they're applauding those that do!
To: ex-snook
Yep. We were just dicussing this on another thread.
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1126792/posts?page=11
What's disturbing is watching the Muslim secessionist movement...as they gain strength within various countries, claim a majority and then fight for their so-called independence. Little by little, Islam is transforming the face of this planet...and unfortunately, we in our naivety, have helped and supported them in many of these instances. From Pakistan to Chechnya to Kosovo and the Balkans...this "religion" has been on a perputual Jihad since 622. When I see Canada considering Sharia in their courts or Hamtramck acquiescing to Islam's Call to Prayer...I fear we don't understand this enemy.
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posted on
04/29/2004 5:53:03 PM PDT
by
cwb
(Kerry: Sadr is a legitimate voice in Iraq being silenced by America..and Hamas are sorta terrorists.)
To: MegaSilver
FINALLY, someone with spine enough to speak the truth! I agree that she is telling the total truth with regards to Islam and the goals of the Islamists. But she began with an independent clause in her opening paragraph that was not elaborated upon in the article. I mean it begged for a follow-up.
She states, "The nation of Israel is a nearly sixty year old sore spot in the present-day Middle East, it costs American taxpayers a lot of money to support (billions per year), it's the focus of dispensational Christian theology, but ... Israel can take care of itself. Really. All the US has to do is say "sic 'em" and walk away."
True, but what does Israel have to do with her subject?
Anyway, she's spot on about the Muslim world.

A.K.A. Sleepy Brown
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posted on
04/29/2004 5:56:01 PM PDT
by
rdb3
(Let others praise ancient times; I am glad I was born in these.)
To: rdb3
True, but what does Israel have to do with her subject?Yes, that is a bit odd...
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:00:15 PM PDT
by
MegaSilver
(Training a child in red diapers is the cruelest and most unusual form of abuse.)
To: ExposeDem
Do you enjoy spreading evil misconceptions??
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:00:33 PM PDT
by
MegaSilver
(Training a child in red diapers is the cruelest and most unusual form of abuse.)
To: expatguy
Islam's prophets include Moses and Christ unlike Satan's kids. Beware of Satan and his children to thrust evil upon you and misdirect you. The facts are well known in history.
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:02:50 PM PDT
by
ExposeDem
(Mary is the Mother of God. She knew of Christ's journey before he. Pray the Rosary!)
To: MegaSilver
Excellent article...She really nails a very "unpopular" truth.
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:04:10 PM PDT
by
lainde
(Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
To: MegaSilver
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:15:23 PM PDT
by
MegaSilver
(Training a child in red diapers is the cruelest and most unusual form of abuse.)
To: MegaSilver
So islam ISN'T a religion of peace? Hmm. I'm confused.
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:17:37 PM PDT
by
ApesForEvolution
(FREE 3D On-line Golf Game - Independent Reseller of the Week: http://egolfinternational.com/wig)
To: Genesis defender
Liberalism is the downfall of Christianity, but you must understand the reasoning beyond it. Read of Pope Pius XI. One is not to believe in his preachings but he has a distinct and good understanding of Socialism Mary appeared in 1858. Read of the characters of the time. Read again when Mary appeared in 1917. Satan had a plan when she appreared in 1858 but Bernadette was told to keep the secrets to herself as it was prophecy. When Mary appeared again in 1917, Satan reared his head. St. Ludia knew it was a predetermined time for those to understand in the third secret. It has not yet come to be.
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:19:24 PM PDT
by
ExposeDem
(I am Bernadette's child. Pray the Rosary!)
To: MegaSilver; ExposeDem
Yea mega do you enjoy spreading evil propaganda? Isolationism is definitely NOT AN OPTION I prefer the former!!!
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:22:00 PM PDT
by
Coroner
To: seastay
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:23:06 PM PDT
by
OK
To: GulliverSwift
There have been articles posted here that in 20 years there will be 400 million Chinese Christians. The muzzies are going to be in some trouble!!!
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:23:53 PM PDT
by
Coroner
To: ExposeDem
"Do you enjoy spreading evil misconceptions?"Hold your high-horses, there, slick. There are literally HUNDREDS of years of history to support the veracity of this piece. What the hell have YOU got?????? Bring it. Now. Or shut up.
Oh......and in case you've been asleep for the past few years (highly likely), take note of the flashpoints around the world.......today.........and note who caused the fires.
God save us from such idiocy...............
To: Coroner
That would be great news. And the thing is, that because China has very restrictive immigration laws, they won't have a similar influx of Muslim immigrants coming in.
The same thing will also happen in Africa. Christianity is spreading very quickly in many parts there.
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:28:52 PM PDT
by
GulliverSwift
(Bring back the Munsters. Vote for Jean Kerry!)
To: MegaSilver
Actually, I found this to be exceedingly confusing, with no straightforward thesis, because she vacilates on all the issues she raises.
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:29:38 PM PDT
by
happygrl
(this war is for all the marbles...we can't go Spanish!)
To: MegaSilver
This article is the truth. So few realize...
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:29:38 PM PDT
by
MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
(Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
To: seastay
I hope that is correct. It's really saddening how many Muslim women willingly tolerate the fact that Islam is 500 years behind the rest of the world.
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:31:18 PM PDT
by
GulliverSwift
(Bring back the Munsters. Vote for Jean Kerry!)
To: UCSC Republican
Anyhow...he said that he believes 3 worldviews will face off:
1. Islam
2. European Secular Socialism
3. American Judeo-Christian Capitalism
Yep, and after its all over the Chinese will mop up the remains.
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:33:34 PM PDT
by
foto
To: GulliverSwift
I read somewhere that Africa has 360 mill Christians today. They only need some arms.
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:34:27 PM PDT
by
Coroner
To: rdb3
All the US has to do is say "sic 'em" and walk away." I believe in some sense that is exactly what Bush has done.
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:36:39 PM PDT
by
farmfriend
( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
To: ExposeDem
"Islam's prophets include Moses and Christ unlike Satan's kids."
Muslims worldwide repeat and emphasize that there is only "one prophet," and he is Muhammed. But to the world outside of Islam, Muslims perpetuate the jihads of confusing propaganda.
According to Muslim scholars, Jihad can take the forms of "Jihad of Words," "Jihad of Deception," "Jihad of the Sword," "Jihad of Taxation and Financial Reward," "Jihad of Slavery," "Jihad of the Sharia Law," "Jihad of Polygamy" and "Jihad of the Spirits."
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:37:02 PM PDT
by
familyop
(Essayons)
To: ExposeDem
Do you enjoy spreading evil misconceptions? Do you enjoy watching your family die at the hands of those who will kill you for not worshiping their "god?"
Go and join Europe in their suicide PC dance with the followers of the homicidal pedophile misogynist egomaniac.
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:40:18 PM PDT
by
m87339
(If you could see what a drag it is to be you)
To: ExposeDem
Could you be any less specific? Go back to sleep.
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:45:59 PM PDT
by
bethelgrad
(for God, country, and the Corps OOH RAH!)
To: MegaSilver
While I don't disagree much with her assessment, I disagree with her conclusion that it is the most dangerous ideology. Communism (by all the various alternate names it is now called) is far more dangerous.
Qwinn
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posted on
04/29/2004 6:50:51 PM PDT
by
Qwinn
To: ex-snook
Their WMD is really Worldwide Migrating Demographics.The Future Belongs To The Fertile
To: MegaSilver
FINALLY, someone with spine enough to speak the truth! Actually, she's a little late. There have been many speaking the truth for some time, none more eloquently than Oriana Fallaci:
Oriana Fallaci has a published a new Book: The Force of Reason (La Forza della Ragione)
"Europe becomes more and more a province of Islam, a colony of Islam. And Italy is an outpost of that province, a stronghold of that colony," the book says. "In each of our cities lies a second city: a Muslim city, a city run by the Quran. A stage in the Islamic expansionism."
If this book is anything like The Rage and The Pride it is a must read. I cannot say enough good about this courageous woman.
She is one of my real life heroes.
Here are links to two more reviews:
A Colony Of Islam.
Author throws new force of words at Islam.
If you read Italian, here is a source for the book: La Forza della ragione.
(I do not believe there is an English version of this book yet. As soon as it is available I will announce it in this column.)
If you haven't read it yet, get The Rage and The Pride here. You won't be sorry. Or read more about here.
If you would like to learn more about Oriana:
[This article was also posted here.]
To: Hank Kerchief
BUMP for later investigation!
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posted on
04/29/2004 7:01:36 PM PDT
by
MegaSilver
(Training a child in red diapers is the cruelest and most unusual form of abuse.)
To: MegaSilver; Eagle9; freedox; chesty_puller; GRRRRR; MouthOfTheSouth; Memother; joan_30; ...
Bumps
To: ExposeDem
Dude, take your meds..............NOW!
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posted on
04/29/2004 7:09:47 PM PDT
by
DoctorMichael
(The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
To: ExposeDem
> Do you enjoy spreading evil misconceptions?
I have complained to admin about you, troll.
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posted on
04/29/2004 7:12:51 PM PDT
by
old-ager
To: ExposeDem
> Islam's prophets include Moses and Christ
No, Islam BLASPHEMES Christ. Islam says:
- Christ is not God, only a prophet
- Christ was not crucified for our sins
- Christ did not rise from the dead
Islamists HATE Christians and Christ! They spew vile lies about respecting Jesus Christ as a "prophet". Their idea of a prophet is the insane and satanic Mohammed.
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posted on
04/29/2004 7:16:48 PM PDT
by
old-ager
To: ExposeDem
> Mary appeared in 1858
I am sorry. Apparitions claiming to be the blessed virgin are FAKE and demonic. God has left us His final Word in Scripture.
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posted on
04/29/2004 7:18:12 PM PDT
by
old-ager
To: ExposeDem
I'm a bit confused, as are probably many of the readers of this post. You might be drawing a bit too much from your own understanding of Catholic theology, or you assume others reading your post know the same info as you. Since I'm a conservative Protestant, I have no idea what you think appearances of Mary have to do with Satan's plans or the years of 1858 or 1917.
I have neither the time nor the energy to expend on a detailed discussion of Catholic theology. That's been done many times on this forum.
As to my original comment, I was just trying to be humorous.
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posted on
04/29/2004 7:27:29 PM PDT
by
Genesis defender
(Prayer is the first line of defense.)
To: Hank Kerchief
Thanks for posting this information.
To: Genesis defender
I'm a bit confused, as are probably many of the readers of this post.Basically, Satan had a plan: Socialism. Mary appeared in 1858 and 1917 to warn followers of it, but they were told to stay discreet, as it was a prophecy (and many wouldn't believe them).
At least that's what I THINK he's saying. Being myself somewhere between Protestant and Catholic theologically, and leaning toward Orthodoxy as of late, I can't really tell for sure.
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posted on
04/29/2004 7:44:44 PM PDT
by
MegaSilver
(Training a child in red diapers is the cruelest and most unusual form of abuse.)
To: happygrl
The 8th Crusade ended in 1191..
Did the 9th begin on 9/11.
hey..those numbers ..almost Nostradamus like in anagram.
shift:
Saddam murdered how many?..plus the deaths of how many Kuwaities?..Iranians in the decade long Iran/Iraq war.
Add the Kurdish murder spree.
Is the Islamic world thankfull for what America and the coalition have achieved?..hardly.
Israel stopped Saddam from having the bomb.
Saddam fired theatre ballistic missiles at Iran,Kuwait..and Israel.
If he had nukes..our world is undone..oil prices go thru the roof..world markets cascade in collapse.
Islam should be gratefull,..instead..they hate more than ever.
We are both handling the oil for whatever we can get.
Soon I think..we will be at war just to obtain it.
Extortion is next sequence pattern in Ilsamic thought when not invading realms to convert by force the Infidel.
We are in a phase of extortion...terror is a from of it..so is the smirking Saudi talking heads..and the sleaze of Al Jazeera.
Extortion can only run so long....it has to have an outcome.
Are we in the 9th Crusade?..
I think so.
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