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Jose Padilla and John Doe No. 2
INTELWIRE.com ^ | 4-30-04 | J.M. BERGER

Posted on 04/30/2004 1:10:49 PM PDT by EggsAckley

Shortly after the announcement of alleged al Qaeda dirty bomber Jose Padilla's arrest in June 2002, a number of Internet sites posted a comparison of Padilla's 1991 mug shot to a police sketch of John Doe No. 2, a never-apprehended suspect in the Oklahoma City bombing. Stories on the comparison appeared in the Wall Street Journal and the Boston Herald, as well as on the Web site of the Village Voice, NBC's "Today Show," and NPR's "Here and Now" radio news program, among others.

INTELWIRE has extensively investigated Padilla in an effort to confirm or refute such a connection. As of this writing, no conclusive evidence exists on either side of the debate. While some misconceptions about possible links have been disproven, there is a surprising amount of circumstantial support for the premise.

However, it should be stressed that no case for an Islamic extremist connection to Oklahoma City has yet met the "smoking gun" standard. Although some government and independent investigations of the case continue, as of this writing the case for a link is still unproven.

John Doe 2

John Doe No. 2 was suspected of being an accomplice who assisted Timothy McVeigh in assembling and possibly deploying the ammonium nitrate-nitromethane bomb that destroyed the Alfred E. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995.

There were several credible sightings of a man seen with McVeigh in Kansas in the days preceding the Oklahoma City bombing, as well as a large number of largely inconsistent reports concerning the day of the bombing.

John Doe 2, as described by various witnesses quoted in media reports and McVeigh defense team notes, was five-foot-nine to five-foot-ten, about 180 pounds, with a dark complexion, dark hair and a tattoo on his left arm. Witnesses who saw John Doe 2 in Kansas in the days preceding the bombing almost universally described the suspect as Hispanic. Although later media reports and speculation among conspiracy theorists cast the suspect as being of Middle Eastern descent, the original reports do not reflect that characterization. The vast majority of John Doe 2 sightings took place between April 14, 1995 and April 19, 1995.

The FBI distributed two composite sketches of John Doe 2, as well as a sketch later determined to be Timothy McVeigh and another later determined to be Terry Nichols.

Jose Padilla, an ethnic Puerto Rican, is five-foot-10 and weighed 170 pounds at the time of his arrest in 1991, according to Florida criminal records. A mid-1990s driver's license photo and a 1991 mug shot of Padilla closely resemble the composite sketch. Padilla was a chronic traffic offender with frequent citations for driving violations. Florida state DMV records obtained by INTELWIRE indicate that Padilla had no documented violations in the state from January 1995 through June 1995.

After an extensive manhunt, the FBI declared there had never been a John Doe 2, and said the hunt had been based on a mistaken identification by the owner of the store where Timothy McVeigh rented the Ryder truck used in the attack.

However, there is substantial reason for even a "conspiracy skeptic" to question the FBI's conclusions in the case, as reflected in several mainstream news media reports and the public results of the FBI's internal investigations into the handling of the OKCBOMB investigation:

Testimony relating to John Doe 2 came from several individuals in the same time frame, most of whom were unconnected to the truck rental store.

Several investigative stories by Associated Press reporter John Solomon in 2002 have cast significant doubt on the FBI's handling of OKCBOMB and the agency's conclusions that McVeigh acted alone. At least two internal FBI investigations of the OKCBOMB investigation have uncovered substantial irregularities, in the areas of forensics and document production.

Close Encounter: McVeigh, Hassoun and Padilla in Florida

Timothy McVeigh quit his job at the end of 1992 and traveled to Plantation, FL, in early 1993, where he attended gun shows while visiting with his sister.

During the same period, Jose Padilla first began reaching out to make contacts in the local Islamic community, according to the New York Times and the Washington Post. Around the same time, Padilla met a representative of the Benevolence International Foundation, which had an office in Plantation, FL, about five minutes away from Padilla's workplace and about 20 minutes from the home where McVeigh was living, according to evidence and testimony presented in several criminal cases.

According to the New York Times and a 2002 FBI affidavit, al Qaeda was actively recruiting American citizens during this period. The Times quoted Padilla's manager at the Taco Bell during this period as saying that terrorist recruiters were known to be circulating in the community.

The founder of the Benevolence office was Adham Hassoun, a local Palestinian activist. According to a indictment unsealed in January 2004, Hassoun illegally possessed a firearm. The alleged date and place of purchase was not immediately known. McVeigh sold at gun shows on at least two separate occasions in early 1993, according to trial testimony.

According to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, in a separate proceeding "Immigration Judge Neale Foster found Hassoun participated in an assassination plot, recruited a "jihad fighter," donated money to charities under investigation for possible links to terrorism and belonged to an international terrorist organization called Al-Gama Al-Islamiyya, according to Hassoun's petition for release to a federal district judge. That petition was denied."

Al-Gama Al-Islamiyya, also known as the Islamic Group, is tied to a New York City al Qaeda cell whose spiritual leader was Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman. One member of that cell, Clement Rodney Hampton-El, recruited U.S. military veterans for al Qaeda, as reported in an INTELWIRE exclusive investigative report. The al Qaeda recruitment plot corresponds closely to the movements of McVeigh and Terry Nichols in key time frames.

During the planning and execution of the OKCBOMB plot, McVeigh and Terry Nichols both traveled in and around Chicago, where the Benevolence International Foundation was based in from mid-1993 on. Padilla had a son in Chicago, where he had been raised. Nichols traveled through Illinois on the way to a gun show just days before the first sightings of John Doe 2, according to testimony and evidence at his and McVeigh's trial.

No Relation to Nichols Ex-Wife

One misconception fueling the initial interest in Padilla as a candidate for John Doe 2 was his surname. Terry Nichols, McVeigh's accomplice in the OKC plot, had an ex-wife named Lana Padilla, a resident of Las Vegas, NV. Nichols and Padilla had an amicable relationship and shared a son, Josh.

Interviewed in 2002, Lana Padilla said she was not aware of any relation to Jose Padilla. Lana Padilla's surname came from a former marriage. There is no evidence to suggest that Leonard Padilla, Lana's ex-husband, is related to Jose Padilla in any way. Lana Padilla continues to aver that she believes there was a John Doe 2 (an argument which supports the legal position of her ex-husband, currently facing a potential death sentence in an Oklahoma trial).

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Documentation: If you are a journalist working on a project related to any aspect of this story, you can obtain full documentation of every fact reported here. E-mail for specifics. Documentation includes government records, court transcripts and mainstream media reports. E-mail for references.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; johndoeno2; josepadilla; okcbombing

1 posted on 04/30/2004 1:10:49 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: EggsAckley
bttt
2 posted on 04/30/2004 1:12:07 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: EggsAckley
I heard a local lunatic on our local talk show going on and on about Nichol's ex-wife being Padilla's sister, so I looked it up and found this article. Apparently, she's no relation to the shoe-bomber.
3 posted on 04/30/2004 1:12:14 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: EggsAckley
BUmp for later.
4 posted on 04/30/2004 1:12:22 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: EggsAckley
Padilla was not the shoe bomber. That was Richard Reid.
5 posted on 04/30/2004 1:14:28 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (06/07/04 - 1000 days since 09/11/01)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Ooops......you're so right. My mistake. Thanks.
6 posted on 04/30/2004 1:15:48 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: pgkdan

Hmmmm......could be!

7 posted on 04/30/2004 1:20:02 PM PDT by PISANO (Our troops...... will NOT tire...will NOT falter.....and WILL NOT FAIL!!!)
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To: EggsAckley
Dont worry about it, I heard someone make the same mistake on FOX last night and he is a proffesional.
8 posted on 04/30/2004 1:21:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
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To: PISANO
Nah, Padilla's blond and blue-eyed. Remember Clinton said it was domestic terrorism and talk radio behind this terrorist act.
9 posted on 04/30/2004 1:23:16 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: BlessedByLiberty
bttt
10 posted on 04/30/2004 1:26:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin (LESS government please, NOT more.)
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To: EggsAckley
According to the government, there is no such thing as a conspiracy.
11 posted on 04/30/2004 1:27:42 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: EggsAckley
The resemblance is striking, isn't it?
12 posted on 04/30/2004 1:27:54 PM PDT by TBP
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To: TBP
Beyond striking, it's a dead ringer, IMO. I don't understand why this isn't big news.............or then, maybe I do.
13 posted on 04/30/2004 1:29:30 PM PDT by EggsAckley (........"I looked out and saw rifles everywhere. That's when I felt safe." .........)
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To: All
I dont suppose anyone knows where i can find some of McVeighs antiwar ravings. They're handy when liberals rant about war and evil right wingers.
14 posted on 04/30/2004 1:29:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
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To: PISANO
John Doe#2 is either Padilla or Charlie Sheen.


15 posted on 04/30/2004 1:35:10 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: EggsAckley
Lone Gunman Bump
16 posted on 04/30/2004 1:37:31 PM PDT by Imal (Evolution is an intelligent design.)
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To: windcliff
print ping
17 posted on 04/30/2004 1:40:45 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: PISANO
Remember, the sketch of John Doe #1 was almost a dead-ringer for McVey.
18 posted on 04/30/2004 1:42:05 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: EggsAckley
Read Jayna Davis's book "The Third Terrorist".

She makes a good case that John Doe #2 is Hussain al-Husaini (spelling?) who lived in OKC.
19 posted on 04/30/2004 1:42:30 PM PDT by w8mm
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later reading bump
20 posted on 04/30/2004 2:01:16 PM PDT by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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To: w8mm
Got that book on order as of a few days ago!!

If Charlie and Padilla aren't one and the same...maybe they're related (same father)...Padilla Estevez????
21 posted on 04/30/2004 2:03:31 PM PDT by FlashBack (USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA..USA...USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: EggsAckley
It came out in the Nichols trial here in OK that witnesses saw John Doe #2 with Nichols and McVeigh. My take is the FBI saying there was no such person was a cover-up of who was really the brains behind the bombing!
22 posted on 04/30/2004 2:07:23 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04 -- Losing is not an Option!)
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To: EggsAckley
bump for later
23 posted on 04/30/2004 2:49:20 PM PDT by RightWingMama
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To: EggsAckley
Interesting read, "WALLS" in this story. (Gorelick)
24 posted on 04/30/2004 5:40:17 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: EggsAckley

Vincente Padilla of the Phillies.

Maybe he is John Doe.

25 posted on 04/30/2004 6:04:46 PM PDT by TankerKC (Can Muslims use HAM radios?)
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To: EggsAckley
Some interesting facts related to Padilla and Oklahoma City:

The amount of circumstantial evidence linking the likes of Timothy McVeigh to Jose Padilla and Terry Nichols to Al Qaeda's Ramzi Yousef is truly mind-blowing. Not to mention the design similarities between the OKC bomb and the bombs being made for an Al Qaeda attack on New York landmarks in the summer of 1993.

According to Padilla's early 1991 arrest record, literally the only feature that separates him from the 1995 description of John Doe #2 is which arm they had a tattoo on (Padilla his right, Doe #2 his left.) (This could be an error by a person giving the description.)

One very interesting note, when McVeigh spent a few months in Plantation, Florida, Padilla happened to be working at a Taco Bell in Plantation. Now, can anyone guess what McVeigh's favorite food to eat during his trial happened to be?

Intelwire is a very good site for info and insight on Al Qaeda terrorism.

26 posted on 05/01/2004 9:29:58 PM PDT by TBP
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To: EggsAckley; RasterMaster; Miss Marple
Badah bing, bump.

5.56mm

27 posted on 08/16/2007 2:44:29 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe

Amazing similarity.


28 posted on 08/16/2007 2:50:49 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: roses of sharon
Amazing similarity.

Yes, it's just your and mine (and everyone else's) lying eyes...sheesh.

5.56mm

29 posted on 08/16/2007 2:53:00 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: roses of sharon


30 posted on 08/16/2007 6:08:52 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: SLB

Kind of makes you wonder, doesn’t it.


31 posted on 08/16/2007 6:17:21 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: EggsAckley

Bump for Clinton’s latest rant.


32 posted on 04/19/2010 11:35:29 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: EggsAckley
PERJURY !


33 posted on 04/19/2010 11:36:20 AM PDT by timestax (The so called news media is the enemy of freedom....timestax)
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