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The Koranís 111 Jihad Verses
By Yoel Natan ^ | Compiled By Yoel Natan

Posted on 05/02/2004 2:11:20 PM PDT by dennisw

The Koran’s 111 Jihad Verses [1] [2]

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I. Horizontal List of Verses  II. Vertical List of Verses

III. Excerpts of Verses IV. Full-text of Verses (With Bolding)

 

I. Horizontal List of Verses:

 

The Koran’s 111 Jihad Passages:

Z      002:178-179, 190-191, 193, 216-218, 244

Z      003:121-125, 140, 155-156, 165-167, 169, 173, 195

Z      004:071-072, 074-077, 084, 089, 091, 094-095, 100, 102, 104

Z      005:033, 035, 082

Z      008:005, 007, 009, 012, 015-017, 039, 042, 045, 059-060, 065, 067, 069, 071-072, 074-075

Z      009:005, 012-014, 016, 019-020, 024-026, 029, 036, 038-039, 041, 044, 052, 073, 081, 083, 086, 088, 092, 111, 120, 122-123

Z      016:110

Z      022:039, 078

Z      029:006, 069

Z      033:015, 018, 020, 025-026

Z      047:020

Z      048:016, 022

Z      059:002, 005-008, 014

Z      060:009

Z      061:004

Z      063:004

Z      064:014

Z      066:009

Z      073:020

II. Vertical List of Verses:

 

The Koran’s 111 Jihad Passages:

1.       002:178

2.       002:179

3.       002:190

4.       002:191

5.       002:193

6.       002:216

7.       002:217

8.       002:218

9.       002:244

10.   003:121

11.   003:122

12.   003:123

13.   003:124

14.   003:125

15.   003:140

16.   003:155

17.   003:156

18.   003:165

19.   003:166

20.   003:167

21.   003:169

22.   003:173

23.   003:195

24.   004:071

25.   004:072

26.   004:074

27.   004:075

28.   004:076

29.   004:077

30.   004:084

31.   004:089

32.   004:091

33.   004:094

34.   004:095

35.   004:100

36.   004:102

37.   004:104

38.   005:033

39.   005:035

40.   005:082

41.   008:005

42.   008:007

43.   008:009

44.   008:012

45.   008:015

46.   008:016

47.   008:017

48.   008:039

49.   008:042

50.   008:045

51.   008:059

52.   008:060

53.   008:065

54.   008:067

55.   008:069

56.   008:071

57.   008:072

58.   008:074

59.   008:075

60.   009:005

61.   009:012

62.   009:013

63.   009:014

64.   009:016

65.   009:019

66.   009:020

67.   009:024

68.   009:025

69.   009:026

70.   009:029

71.   009:036

72.   009:038

73.   009:039

74.   009:041

75.   009:044

76.   009:052

77.   009:073

78.   009:081

79.   009:083

80.   009:086

81.   009:088

82.   009:092

83.   009:111

84.   009:120

85.   009:122

86.   009:123

87.   016:110

88.   022:039

89.   022:078

90.   029:006

91.   029:069

92.   033:015

93.   033:018

94.   033:020

95.   033:025

96.   033:026

97.   047:020

98.   048:016

99.   048:022

100.      059:002

101.      059:005

102.      059:006

103.      059:007

104.      059:008

105.      059:014

106.      060:009

107.      061:004

108.      063:004

109.      064:014

110.      066:009

111.      073:020


III. Excerpts of Verses

 

The Koran’s 111 Jihad Passages:

Translation used:  M. H. Shakir, published by Tahrike Tarsile Qur'an, Inc., 1983, unless otherwise indicated.

      002:178-179: [2.178] …retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain… [2.179] …there is life for you in (the law of) retaliation, O men of understanding, that you may guard yourselves.

      002:190-191: [2.190] …fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you…[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

      002:193: …fight with them…

      002:216-218: [2.216] Fighting is enjoined on you…[2.217]…fighting in it. Say: Fighting in it is a grave matter…persecution is graver than slaughter… [2.218]…strove hard in the way of Allah

      002:244: …fight in the way of Allah

      003:121-125: [3.121]…to lodge the believers in encampments for war…[3.123]…Allah did certainly assist you at [the Battle of] Badr…[3.124]…[3.125] Yea! if you remain patient and are on your guard, and they come upon you in a headlong manner, your Lord will assist you with five thousand of the havoc-making angels.

      003:140: If a wound has afflicted you (at [the Battle of] Uhud), a wound like it has also afflicted the (unbelieving) people; and We bring these days to men by turns, and that Allah may know those who believe and take witnesses from among you…

      003:155-156: [3.155] (As for) those of you who turned back on the day when the two armies met…[3.156] O you who believe! be not like those who disbelieve and say of their brethren when they travel in the earth or engage in fighting: Had they been with us, they would not have died and they would not have been slain…

      003:165-167: [3.165]…you had certainly afflicted (the unbelievers) with twice as much [with Jihad]…[3.166]…when the two armies met ([the Battle of] Uhud)…[3.167]…Come, fight in Allah's way, or defend yourselves…If we knew fighting, we would certainly have followed you…

      003:169: …reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and) are provided sustenance from their Lord [meaning they are enjoying their 72 virgins in heaven];

      003:173: …Surely men have gathered against you [in battle]…

      003:195: …who fought and were slain…I will most certainly make them enter gardens beneath which rivers flow; a reward from Allah, and with Allah is yet better reward.

      004:071-072: [4.71] …go forth in detachments or go forth in a body [to war]. [4.72] …hang back [from Jihad] …not present with them [in Jihad].

      004:074-077: [4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward. [4.75]…fight in the way of Allah… [4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Satan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Satan…[4.77] …when fighting is prescribed for them…Our Lord! why hast Thou ordained fighting for us? …

      004:084: Fight then in Allah's way…rouse the believers to ardor maybe Allah will restrain the fighting of those who disbelieve…

      004:089:…if they turn back [to their homes], then seize them and kill them wherever you find them…

      004:091…seize them and kill them wherever you find them…

      004:094-095: [4.94]…when you go to war in Allah's way… [4.95] …those who strive hard [Jihad] in Allah's way with their property and their persons are not equal…Allah shall grant to the strivers [i.e., Jihadist] above the holders back a mighty reward:

      004:100: …whoever flies in Allah's way [forsakes his home to fight in Jihad], he will find in the earth many a place of refuge and abundant resources, and whoever goes forth from his house flying to Allah and His Apostle, and then death overtakes him [in Jihad], his reward is indeed with Allah…

      004:102: …let them take their arms…let them take their precautions and their arms…there is no blame on you, if you are annoyed with rain or if you are sick, that you lay down your arms…

      004:104: …be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy…

      005:033: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land…

      005:035: …strive hard [at Jihad] in His way that you may be successful.

      005:082: …you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe (to be) the Jews [compare “ with “whenever Jews kindle fire for war, Allah [Muslims] puts it out” (K 005:064)] and those who are polytheists [while they are converted to Islam on pain of death]…

      008:005: …though a party of the believers were surely averse;

      008:007: …Allah promised you one of the two (enemy) parties, that it should be yours: Ye wished that the one unarmed should be yours, but Allah willed to justify the Truth according to His words and to cut off the roots of the Unbelievers;-

      008:009: …I will assist you [in Jihad] with a thousand of the angels following one another [see 008:012].

      008:012: …make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

      008:015-017: [8.15] …when you meet those who disbelieve marching for war, then turn not your backs to them. [8.16] …for the sake of fighting… [8.17] So you did not slay them, but it was Allah Who slew them, and you did not smite when you smote (the enemy), but it was Allah Who smote [Allah gets the credit for Jihad] …

      008:039:…fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah…

      008:042: …Allah might bring about a matter which was to be done, that he who would perish might perish by clear proof [all bring success to Jihad against all the odds] …

      008:045: … when you meet a party [in battle], then be firm…

      008:059-060: [8.59] …let not those who disbelieve think that they shall come in first; surely they will not escape. [8.60] …prepare against them what force you can and horses tied at the frontier, to frighten thereby the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them, whom you do not know (but) Allah knows them; and whatever thing you will spend in Allah’s way [for Jihad] …

      008:065: O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand [in other words, do not understand totalitarian ideologies like Islam].

      008:067: It is not fit for a prophet that he should take captives unless he has fought and triumphed in the land…

      008:069: Eat then of the lawful and good (things) which you have acquired in war…

      008:071-072: [8.71]…He gave (you) mastery over them…[8.72] …struggled hard in Allah's way with their property and their souls [in Jihad], and those who gave shelter and helped [harbored terrorists]-- these are guardians of each other; …and if they seek aid from you in the matter of religion [Jihad against people without a treaty—see next phrase], aid is incumbent on you except against a people between whom and you there is a treaty…

      008:074-075: [8.74] (as for) those who believed and fled and struggled hard in Allah’s way [Jihad], and those who gave shelter and helped [harbored terrorists], these are the believers truly; they shall have forgiveness and honorable provision. [8.75] … (as for) those who believed afterwards and fled and struggled hard [Jihad] along with you, they are of you; and the possessors of relationships are nearer to each other in the ordinance of Allah [terrorists have a close relationship with those who harbor them]…

      009:005:…slay the idolaters wherever you find them…take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush…

      009:012-014: [9.12] …fight the leaders of unbelief…[9.13] What! will you not fight a people…[9.14] Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace, and assist you against them and heal the hearts of a believing people.

      009:016: …those of you who have struggled hard [Jihad] …

      009:019-020: [9.19] …strives hard in Allah's way? …[9.20] …strove hard [Jihad] in Allah's way with their property and their souls…

      009:024-026: [9.24] …striving in His way [Jihad]:, then wait till Allah brings about His command [to go on Jihad]: … [9.25] Certainly Allah helped you in many battlefields and on the day of [the Battle of] Hunain, when your great numbers made you vain, … [9.26] …chastised those who disbelieved [Muhammad gives credit to angels and Allah for the actions of Jihadists]…

      009:029: Fight those who do not believe in Allah…nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

      009:036: …fight the polytheists all together as they fight you all together…

      009:038-039: [9.38] …Go forth in Allah's way [to Jihad] …[9.38] If you do not go forth [to go on Jihad], He will chastise you with a painful chastisement and bring in your place a people other than you [to go on Jihad]…

      009:041: Go forth lightly [lightly armed] and heavy [heavily armed], and strive hard in Allah's way [Jihad] with your property and your persons…

      009:044: …striving hard with their property and their persons [Jihad] …

      009:052: …Allah will afflict you with punishment from Himself or by our hands…

      009:073: …strive hard [Jihad] against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them…

      009:081:…they were averse from striving in Allah's way [Jihad] with their property and their persons, and said: Do not go forth [to Jihad] in the heat…

      009:083: … shall you fight an enemy with me [in Jihad] …

      009:086: …strive hard [in Jihad] along with His Apostle…

      009:088: …strive hard [in Jihad] with their property and their persons…

      009:092:  YUSUFALI: Nor (is there blame) on those who came to thee to be provided with mounts [saddles on which to go to war], and when thou said, "I can find no mounts for you," they turned back, their eyes streaming with tears of grief that they had no resources wherewith to provide the expenses [to go on Jihad].

      009:111: …they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain…

      009:120: YUSUFALI: …whether they suffered thirst, or fatigue, or hunger, in the cause of Allah [while on a march to Jihad], or trod paths to raise the ire of the Unbelievers [invade their territory], or received any injury whatever from an enemy [during a Jihad battle] …

      009:122-123: [9.122] PICKTHAL: …the believers should not all go out to fight. Of every troop of them, a party only should go forth… [9.123] …fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness…

      016:110: YUSUFALI: …who thereafter strive and fight for the faith and patiently persevere…

      022:039: Permission (to fight) is given to those upon whom war is made…

      022:078: …strive hard [in Jihad] in (the way of) Allah, (such) a striving a is due to Him…

      029:006: …strives hard [in Jihad], he strives only for his own soul…

      029:069: … (as for) those who strive hard [in Jihad] for Us…

      033:015: PICKTHAL: …they had already sworn unto Allah that they would not turn their backs (to the foe) [in Jihad battle] …

      033:018: …they come not to the fight [Jihad] but a little,

      033:020: …they would not fight save a little [in Jihad].

      033:025-026: [33.25] …Allah sufficed the believers in fighting… [33.26] …some [Jews] you killed and you took captive another part.

      047:020: [47.20] …fighting [allusion to Jihad] is mentioned therein …

      048:016: …You shall soon be invited (to fight) against a people possessing mighty prowess; you will fight against them until they submit…

      048:022:…if those who disbelieve fight with you, they would certainly turn (their) backs…

      059:002: …the hands of the believers [i. e. Muslims demolished Jewish homes] …

      059:005-008: [59.5] Whatever palm-tree you cut down or leave standing upon its roots [during a Jihad siege] …you did not press forward against it any horse or a riding camel but Allah gives authority to His apostles against whom He pleases… [59.7] Whatever Allah has restored to His Apostle from the people of the towns [booty] … [59.8] (It is) for …assisting Allah and His Apostle [booty] …

      059:014: They will not fight against you in a body save in fortified towns or from behind walls…

      060:009: Allah only forbids you respecting those who made war upon you on account of (your) religion [i.e., no fraternizing with the enemy] …

      061:004: …Allah loves those who fight in His way in ranks as if they were a firm and compact wall.

      063:004: …they think every cry to be against them. They are the enemy, therefore beware of them; may Allah destroy them, whence are they turned back? [This verse speaks of internecine Jihad against Muslims deemed infidels or “hypocrites.”]

      064:014: …surely from among your wives and your children there is an enemy to you; therefore beware of them [collaborators with the enemy, especially if the women were once war spoils] …

      066:009: O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be hard against them…

      073:020: …others who fight in Allah's way…

IV. Full-text of Verses (With Bolding):

 

The Koran’s 111 Jihad Passages:

Translation used:  M. H. Shakir, published by Tahrike Tarsile Qur'an, Inc., 1983, unless otherwise indicated.

      002:178-179: [2.178] O you who believe! retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain, the free for the free, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female, but if any remission is made to any one by his (aggrieved) brother, then prosecution (for the bloodwit) should be made according to usage, and payment should be made to him in a good manner; this is an alleviation from your Lord and a mercy; so whoever exceeds the limit after this he shall have a painful chastisement. [2.179] And there is life for you in (the law of) retaliation, O men of understanding, that you may guard yourselves.

      002:190-191: [2.190] And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits. [2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

      002:193: And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors.

      002:216-218: [2.216] Fighting is enjoined on you, and it is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and Allah knows, while you do not know. [2.217] They ask you concerning the sacred month about fighting in it. Say: Fighting in it is a grave matter, and hindering (men) from Allah's way and denying Him, and (hindering men from) the Sacred Mosque and turning its people out of it, are still graver with Allah, and persecution is graver than slaughter; and they will not cease fighting with you until they turn you back from your religion, if they can; and whoever of you turns back from his religion, then he dies while an unbeliever-- these it is whose works shall go for nothing in this world and the hereafter, and they are the inmates of the fire; therein they shall abide. [2.218] Surely those who believed and those who fled (their home) and strove hard in the way of Allah these hope for the mercy of Allah and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

      002:244: And fight in the way of Allah, and know that Allah is Hearing, Knowing.

      003:121-125: [3.121] And when you did go forth early in the morning from your family to lodge the believers in encampments for war and Allah is Hearing, Knowing. [3.122] When two parties from among you had determined that they should show cowardice, and Allah was the guardian of them both, and in Allah should the believers trust. [3.123] And Allah did certainly assist you at [the Battle of] Badr when you were weak; be careful of (your duty to) Allah then, that you may give thanks. [3.124] When you said to the believers: Does it not suffice you that your Lord should assist you with three thousand of the angels sent down? [3.125] Yea! if you remain patient and are on your guard, and they come upon you in a headlong manner, your Lord will assist you with five thousand of the havoc-making angels.

      003:140: If a wound has afflicted you (at [the Battle of] Uhud), a wound like it has also afflicted the (unbelieving) people; and We bring these days to men by turns, and that Allah may know those who believe and take witnesses from among you; and Allah does not love the unjust.

      003:155-156: [3.155] (As for) those of you who turned back on the day when the two armies met, only the Satan sought to cause them to make a slip on account of some deeds they had done, and certainly Allah has pardoned them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Forbearing. [3.156] O you who believe! be not like those who disbelieve and say of their brethren when they travel in the earth or engage in fighting: Had they been with us, they would not have died and they would not have been slain; so Allah makes this to be an intense regret in their hearts; and Allah gives life and causes death and Allah sees what you do.

      003:165-167: [3.165] What! when a misfortune befell you, and you had certainly afflicted (the unbelievers) with twice as much [with Jihad], you began to say: Whence is this? Say: It is from yourselves; surely Allah has power over all things. [3.166] And what befell you on the day when the two armies met ([the Battle of] Uhud) was with Allah's knowledge, and that He might know the believers. [3.167] And that He might know the hypocrites; and it was said to them: Come, fight in Allah's way, or defend yourselves. They said: If we knew fighting, we would certainly have followed you. They were on that day much nearer to unbelief than to belief. They say with their mouths what is not in their hearts, and Allah best knows what they conceal.

      003:169: And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and) are provided sustenance from their Lord [meaning they are enjoying their 72 virgins in heaven];

      003:173: Those to whom the people said: Surely men have gathered against you [in battle], therefore fear them, but this increased their faith, and they said: Allah is sufficient for us and most excellent is the Protector.

      003:195: So their Lord accepted their prayer: That I will not waste the work of a worker among you, whether male or female, the one of you being from the other; they, therefore, who fled and were turned out of their homes and persecuted in My way and who fought and were slain, I will most certainly cover their evil deeds, and I will most certainly make them enter gardens beneath which rivers flow; a reward from Allah, and with Allah is yet better reward.

      004:071-072: [4.71] O you who believe! take your precaution, then go forth in detachments or go forth in a body [to war]. [4.72] And surely among you is he who would certainly hang back [from Jihad]! If then a misfortune befalls you he says: Surely Allah conferred a benefit on me that I was not present with them [in Jihad].

      004:074-077: [4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward. [4.75] And what reason have you that you should not fight in the way of Allah and of the weak among the men and the women and the children, (of) those who say: Our Lord! cause us to go forth from this town, whose people are oppressors, and give us from Thee a guardian and give us from Thee a helper. [4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Satan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Satan; surely the strategy of the Satan is weak. [4.77] Have you not seen those to whom it was said: Withhold your hands, and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate; but when fighting is prescribed for them, lo! a party of them fear men as they ought to have feared Allah, or (even) with a greater fear, and say: Our Lord! why hast Thou ordained fighting for us? Wherefore didst Thou not grant us a delay to a near end? Say: The provision of this world is short, and the hereafter is better for him who guards (against evil); and you shall not be wronged the husk of a date stone.

      004:084: Fight then in Allah's way; this is not imposed on you except in relation to yourself, and rouse the believers to ardor maybe Allah will restrain the fighting of those who disbelieve and Allah is strongest in prowess and strongest to give an exemplary punishment.

      004:089: They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back [to their homes], then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

      004:091: You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority.

      004:094-095: [4.94] O you who believe! when you go to war in Allah's way, make investigation, and do not say to any one who offers you peace: You are not a believer. Do you seek goods of this world's life! [Meaning that Muslim ought not say someone is a non-Muslim just to plunder him.] But with Allah there are abundant gains; you too were such before, then Allah conferred a benefit on you; therefore make investigation; surely Allah is aware of what you do. [4.95] The holders back from among the believers, not having any injury, and those who strive hard [Jihad] in Allah's way with their property and their persons are not equal; Allah has made the strivers with their property and their persons to excel the holders back a (high) degree, and to each (class) Allah has promised good; and Allah shall grant to the strivers [i.e., Jihadist] above the holders back a mighty reward:

      004:100: And whoever flies in Allah's way [forsakes his home to fight in Jihad], he will find in the earth many a place of refuge and abundant resources, and whoever goes forth from his house flying to Allah and His Apostle, and then death overtakes him [in Jihad], his reward is indeed with Allah and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

      004:102: And when you are among them and keep up the prayer for them, let a party of them stand up with you, and let them take their arms; then when they have prostrated themselves let them go to your rear, and let another party who have not prayed come forward and pray with you, and let them take their precautions and their arms; (for) those who disbelieve desire that you may be careless of your arms and your luggage, so that they may then turn upon you with a sudden united attack, and there is no blame on you, if you are annoyed with rain or if you are sick, that you lay down your arms, and take your precautions; surely Allah has prepared a disgraceful chastisement for the unbelievers.

      004:104: And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain, and you hope from Allah what they do not hope; and Allah is Knowing, Wise

      005:033: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned [Pickthal and Yusufali:  exiled]; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,

      005:035: O you who believe! be careful of (your duty to) Allah and seek means of nearness to Him and strive hard [at Jihad] in His way  that you may be successful.

      005:082: Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe (to be) the Jews [compare “ with “whenever Jews kindle fire for war, Allah [Muslims] puts it out” (K 005:064)] and those who are polytheists [while they are converted to Islam on pain of death]…

      008:005: Even as your Lord caused you to go forth from your house with the truth, though a party of the believers were surely averse;

      008:007: YUSUFALI: Behold! Allah promised you one of the two (enemy) parties, that it should be yours: Ye wished that the one unarmed should be yours, but Allah willed to justify the Truth according to His words and to cut off the roots of the Unbelievers;-

      008:009: When you sought aid from your Lord [at the Battle of Badr], so He answered you: I will assist you [in Jihad] with a thousand of the angels following one another [see 008:012].

      008:012: When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

      008:015-017: [8.15] O you who believe! when you meet those who disbelieve marching for war, then turn not your backs to them. [8.16] And whoever shall turn his back to them on that day—unless he turn aside for the sake of fighting or withdraws to a company-- then he, indeed, becomes deserving of Allah's wrath, and his abode is hell; and an evil destination shall it be. [8.17] So you did not slay them, but it was Allah Who slew them, and you did not smite when you smote (the enemy), but it was Allah Who smote [Allah gets the credit for Jihad], and that He might confer upon the believers a good gift from Himself; surely Allah is Hearing, Knowing.

      008:039: And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do.

      008:042: When you were on the nearer side (of the valley) and they were on the farthest side, while the caravan was in a lower place than you [the Mekkan caravan the Muslims robbed]; and if you had mutually made an appointment, you would certainly have broken away from the appointment, but-- in order that Allah might bring about a matter which was to be done, that he who would perish might perish by clear proof [all bring success to Jihad against all the odds], and he who would live might live by clear proof; and most surely Allah is Hearing, Knowing;

      008:045: O you who believe! when you meet a party [in battle], then be firm, and remember Allah much, that you may be successful.

      008:059-060: [8.59] And let not those who disbelieve think that they shall come in first; surely they will not escape. [8.60] And prepare against them what force you can and horses tied at the frontier, to frighten thereby the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them, whom you do not know (but) Allah knows them; and whatever thing you will spend in Allah’s way [for Jihad], it will be paid back to you fully and you shall not be dealt with unjustly.

      008:065: O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand [in other words, do not understand totalitarian ideologies like Islam].

      008:067: It is not fit for a prophet that he should take captives unless he has fought and triumphed in the land; you desire the frail goods of this world [i.e., ransom money], while Allah desires (for you) the hereafter; and Allah is Mighty, Wise.

      008:069: Eat then of the lawful and good (things) which you have acquired in war, and be careful of (your duty to) Allah; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

      008:071-072: [8.71] And if they intend to act unfaithfully towards you, so indeed they acted unfaithfully towards Allah before, but He gave (you) mastery over them; and Allah is Knowing, Wise. [8.72] Surely those who believed and fled (their homes) and struggled hard in Allah's way with their property and their souls [in Jihad], and those who gave shelter and helped [harbored terrorists]-- these are guardians of each other; and (as for) those who believed and did not fly, not yours is their guardianship until they fly; and if they seek aid from you in the matter of religion [Jihad against people without a treaty—see next phrase], aid is incumbent on you except against a people between whom and you there is a treaty, and Allah sees what you do.

      008:074-075: [8.74] And (as for) those who believed and fled and struggled hard in Allah’s way [Jihad], and those who gave shelter and helped [harbored terrorists], these are the believers truly; they shall have forgiveness and honorable provision. [8.75] And (as for) those who believed afterwards and fled and struggled hard [Jihad] along with you, they are of you; and the possessors of relationships are nearer to each other in the ordinance of Allah [terrorists have a close relationship with those who harbor them]; surely Allah knows all things.

      009:005: So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

      009:012-014: [9.12] And if they break their oaths after their agreement and (openly) revile your religion, then fight the leaders of unbelief-- surely their oaths are nothing-- so that they may desist. [9.13] What! will you not fight a people who broke their oaths and aimed at the expulsion of the Apostle, and they attacked you first; do you fear them? But Allah is most deserving that you should fear Him, if you are believers. [9.14] Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace, and assist you against them and heal the hearts of a believing people.

      009:016: What! do you think that you will be left alone while Allah has not yet known those of you who have struggled hard [Jihad] and have not taken any one as an adherent besides Allah and His Apostle and the believers; and Allah is aware of what you do.

      009:019-020: [9.19] What! do you make (one who undertakes) the giving of drink to the pilgrims and the guarding of the Sacred Mosque like him who believes in Allah and the latter day and strives hard in Allah's way [Jihad]? They are not equal with Allah; and Allah does not guide the unjust people. [9.20] Those who believed and fled (their homes), and strove hard [Jihad] in Allah's way with their property and their souls, are much higher in rank with Allah; and those are they who are the achievers (of their objects).

      009:024-026: [9.24] Say: If your fathers and your sons and your brethren and your mates and your kinsfolk and property which you have acquired, and the slackness of trade which you fear and dwellings which you like, are dearer to you than Allah and His Apostle and striving in His way [Jihad]:, then wait till Allah brings about His command [to go on Jihad]: and Allah does not guide the transgressing people. [9.25] Certainly Allah helped you in many battlefields and on the day of [the Battle of] Hunain, when your great numbers made you vain, but they availed you nothing and the earth became strait to you notwithstanding its spaciousness, then you turned back retreating. [9.26] Then Allah sent down His tranquility upon His Apostle and upon the believers, and sent down hosts which you did not see, and chastised those who disbelieved [Muhammad gives credit to angels and Allah for the actions of Jihadists], and that is the reward of the unbelievers.

      009:029: Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

      009:036: Surely the number of months with Allah is twelve months in Allah's ordinance since the day when He created the heavens and the earth, of these four being sacred; that is the right reckoning; therefore be not unjust to yourselves regarding them, and fight the polytheists all together as they fight you all together; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

      009:038-039: [9.38] O you who believe! What (excuse) have you that when it is said to you: Go forth in Allah's way [to Jihad], you should incline heavily to earth; are you contented with this world's life instead of the hereafter? But the provision of this world's life compared with the hereafter is but little. [9.38] If you do not go forth [to go on Jihad], He will chastise you with a painful chastisement and bring in your place a people other than you [to go on Jihad], and you will do Him no harm; and Allah has power over all things.

      009:041: Go forth lightly [lightly armed] and heavy [heavily armed], and strive hard in Allah's way [Jihad] with your property and your persons; this is better for you, if you know.

      009:044: They do not ask leave of you who believe in Allah and the latter day (to stay away) from striving hard with their property and their persons [Jihad], and Allah knows those who guard (against evil).

      009:052: Say: Do you await for us but one of two most excellent things? And we await for you that Allah will afflict you with punishment from Himself or by our hands. So wait; we too will wait with you.

      009:073: O Prophet! strive hard [Jihad] against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.

      009:081: Those who were left behind were glad on account of their sitting behind Allah's Apostle and they were averse from striving m Allah's way [Jihad] with their property and their persons, and said: Do not go forth [to Jihad] in the heat. Say: The fire of hell is much severe in heat. Would that they understood (it).

      009:083: Therefore if Allah brings you back to a party of them and then they ask your permission to go forth, say: By no means shall you ever go forth with me and by no means shall you fight an enemy with me [in Jihad]; surely you chose to sit the first time, therefore sit (now) with those who remain behind.

      009:086: And whenever a chapter is revealed, saying: Believe in Allah and strive hard [in Jihad] along with His Apostle, those having ampleness of means ask permission of you and say: Leave us (behind), that we may be with those who sit.

      009:088: But the Apostle and those who believe with him strive hard [in Jihad] with their property and their persons; and these it is who shall have the good things and these it is who shall be successful.

      009:092: YUSUFALI: Nor (is there blame) on those who came to thee to be provided with mounts [saddles on which to go to war], and when thou said, "I can find no mounts for you," they turned back, their eyes streaming with tears of grief that they had no resources wherewith to provide the expenses [to go on Jihad].

      009:111: Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain; a promise which is binding on Him in the Taurat and the Injeel and the Quran; and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? Rejoice therefore in the pledge which you have made; and that is the mighty achievement.

      009:120: YUSUFALI: It was not fitting for the people of Medina and the Bedouin Arabs of the neighborhood, to refuse to follow Allah's Messenger, nor to prefer their own lives to his: because nothing could they suffer or do, but was reckoned to their credit as a deed of righteousness,- whether they suffered thirst, or fatigue, or hunger, in the cause of Allah [while on a march to Jihad], or trod paths to raise the ire of the Unbelievers [invade their territory], or received any injury whatever from an enemy [during a Jihad battle]: for Allah suffers not the reward to be lost of those who do good;-

      009:122-123: [9.122] PICKTHAL: And the believers should not all go out to fight. Of every troop of them, a party only should go forth, that they (who are left behind) may gain sound knowledge in religion, and that they may warn their folk when they return to them, so that they may beware. [9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

      016:110: YUSUFALI: But verily thy Lord,- to those who leave their homes after trials and persecutions,- and who thereafter strive and fight for the faith and patiently persevere,- Thy Lord, after all this is oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

      022:039: Permission (to fight) is given to those upon whom war is made because they are oppressed, and most surely Allah is well able to assist them;

      022:078: And strive hard [in Jihad] in (the way of) Allah, (such) a striving a is due to Him; He has chosen you and has not laid upon you a hardship in religion; the faith of your father Ibrahim; He named you Muslims before and in this, that the Messenger may be a bearer of witness to you, and you may be bearers of witness to the people; therefore keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate and hold fast by Allah; He is your Guardian; how excellent the Guardian and how excellent the Helper!

      029:006: And whoever strives hard [in Jihad], he strives only for his own soul; most surely Allah is Self-sufficient, above (need of) the worlds.

      029:069: And (as for) those who strive hard [in Jihad] for Us, We will most certainly guide them in Our ways; and Allah is most surely with the doers of good.

      033:015: PICKTHAL: And verily they had already sworn unto Allah that they would not turn their backs (to the foe) [in Jihad battle]. An oath to Allah must be answered for.

      033:018: Allah knows indeed those among you who hinder others and those who say to their brethren: Come to us; and they come not to the fight [Jihad] but a little,

      033:020: They think the allies are not gone, and if the allies should come (again) they would fain [gladly] be in the deserts with the desert Arabs asking for news about you, and if they were among you they would not fight save a little [in Jihad].

      033:025-026: [33.25] And Allah turned back the unbelievers in their rage; they did not obtain any advantage, and Allah sufficed the believers in fighting; and Allah is Strong, Mighty.
[33.26] And He drove down those of the followers of the Book who backed them from their fortresses and He cast awe into their hearts; some [Jews] you killed and you took captive another part.

      047:020: And those who believe say: Why has not a chapter been revealed? But when a decisive chapter is revealed, and fighting [allusion to Jihad] is mentioned therein you see those in whose hearts is a disease look to you with the look of one fainting because of death. Woe to them then!

      048:016: Say to those of the dwellers of the desert [the Bedouin] who were left behind: You shall soon be invited (to fight) against a people possessing mighty prowess; you will fight against them until they submit; then if you obey, Allah will grant you a good reward [booty]; and if you turn back as you turned back before, He will punish you with a painful punishment.

      048:022: And if those who disbelieve fight with you, they would certainly turn (their) backs, then they would not find any protector or a helper.

      059:002: He it is Who caused those who disbelieved of the followers of the Book to go forth from their homes at the first banishment you did not think that they would go forth, while they were certain that their fortresses would defend them against Allah; but Allah came to them whence they did not expect, and cast terror into their hearts; they demolished their houses with their own hands and the hands of the believers [i. e. Muslims demolished Jewish homes]; therefore take a lesson, O you who have eyes!

      059:005-008: [59.5] Whatever palm-tree you cut down or leave standing upon its roots [during a Jihad siege], It is by Allah's command, and that He may abase the transgressors. [59.6] And whatever Allah restored to His Apostle from them you did not press forward against it any horse or a riding camel but Allah gives authority to His apostles against whom He pleases, and Allah has power over all things. [59.7] Whatever Allah has restored to His Apostle from the people of the towns [booty], it is for Allah and for the Apostle, and for the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer, so that it may not be a thing taken by turns among the rich of you, and whatever the Apostle gives you, accept it, and from whatever he forbids you, keep back, and be careful of (your duty to) Allah; surely Allah is severe in retributing (evil): [59.8] (It is) for the poor who fled their homes and their possessions, seeking grace of Allah and (His) pleasure, and assisting Allah and His Apostle [booty]: these it is that are the truthful.

      059:014: They will not fight against you in a body save in fortified towns or from behind walls; their fighting between them is severe, you may think them as one body, and their hearts are disunited; that is because they are a people who have no sense.

      060:009: Allah only forbids you respecting those who made war upon you on account of (your) religion [i.e., no fraternizing with the enemy], and drove you forth from your homes and backed up (others) in your expulsion, that you make friends with them, and whoever makes friends with them, these are the unjust.

      061:004: Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way in ranks as if they were a firm and compact wall.

      063:004: And when you see them, their persons will please you, and If they speak, you will listen to their speech; (they are) as if they were big pieces of wood clad with garments; they think every cry to be against them. They are the enemy, therefore beware of them; may Allah destroy them, whence are they turned back? [This verse speaks of internecine Jihad against Muslims deemed infidels or “hypocrites.”]

      064:014: O you who believe! surely from among your wives and your children there is an enemy to you; therefore beware of them [collaborators with the enemy, especially if the women were once war spoils]; and if you pardon and forbear and forgive, then surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

      066:009: O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be hard against them; and their abode is hell; and evil is the resort.

      073:020: Surely your Lord knows that you pass in prayer nearly two-thirds of the night, and (sometimes) half of it, and (sometimes) a third of it, and (also) a party of those with you; and Allah measures the night and the day. He knows that you are not able to do it, so He has turned to you (mercifully), therefore read what is easy of the Quran. He knows that there must be among you sick, and others who travel in the land seeking of the bounty of Allah, and others who fight in Allah's way, therefore read as much of it as is easy (to you), and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate and offer to Allah a goodly gift, and whatever of good you send on beforehand for yourselves, you will find it with Allah; that is best and greatest in reward; and ask forgiveness of Allah; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.



[1] “The Koran’s 111 Jihad Passages” as adapted from Richardson, Don. Secrets of the Koran. Regal, Venture, California 2003, Appendix B, p. 254, “The Koran’s 109 War Passages. Richardson’s list is in flux, but the differences between his list in the 2003 printing and this list is K 003:155 is changed to K 003:155-156, K 005:038 is changed to K 005:082, K 008:059 is changed to K 008:059-060, and K 033:007 is changed to K 033:015.

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To: dennisw
There are some very kind, ecumenical and nice verses in the Koran. They are from Muhammad's early years. As he grew stronger the warrior-kult verses dominated and took over the Koran.

And in Islamic theology, if there is conflict between different verses, the chronologicly later one cancels the earlier one. The "sweetness and light" verses are thrown around for PR only -- being superceded, they have no force

21 posted on 05/02/2004 3:30:26 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Point me to any verse in Scripture that commands its readers to violence. There is a lot of violence in the Old Testament, yes---even commands of genocide from God to the Israelites. But in Scripture it is placed in historical context; it does not form a doctrine of continued violence. The other poster commenting on your omission of the New Testament has a point, but I think that the Old Testament alone stands up well to scrutiny next to the Koran.
22 posted on 05/02/2004 3:32:40 PM PDT by mcg1969
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To: SauronOfMordor
In The Sunnah (The recorded words of Mohammod), there's even a whole chapter on Jihad. Follow the link for the whole chapter.

These are actually the Hadiths which are supplements, commentary, a fleshing out of the skimpy Koran.
Sunah means examples of Muhammad. Examples from the life he lead that Muslims should emulate. Mohammedanism is very big on emulating what they call the exemplary life of Mohamed.

The Hadith are chock full of Sunah, examples from Muhammad's worthy life

(Islamism is confusing and the above was written to the best of my knowledge)

23 posted on 05/02/2004 3:36:07 PM PDT by dennisw (GD is against Amalek for all generations)
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To: dennisw; VOA
The Islamic Sufis never subscribed to this Jihadist insanity. It would be nice if we could see more of them.
24 posted on 05/02/2004 3:39:20 PM PDT by ambrose (AP Headline: "Kerry Says His 'Family' Owns SUV, Not He")
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To: SauronOfMordor
His Sunnah (examples) and Hadith (sayings)
Sunnah and Hadith. In Islam, the Arabic word sunnah has come to denote
the way Prophet Muhammad (saws) lived his life. The Sunnah ...
isgkc.org/sunnah.htm - 6k - Cached - Similar pages

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25 posted on 05/02/2004 3:40:53 PM PDT by dennisw (GD is against Amalek for all generations)
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To: mcg1969
But in Scripture it is placed in historical context; it does not form a doctrine of continued violence.

If I had violence and conquest in my heart, I could easily use the OT for support. Same as these militant Muslims.

26 posted on 05/02/2004 4:38:29 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Bommer
Isn't he the same God as in the New Testament?

Funny, isn't it? The omniscient, omnipotent, never-changing God seems to have gotten a lot more peaceful after Christ. But even the NT proscribes nasty punishment for the unbelievers. This punishment is done by God and angels, but then in the OT the Jews taking a city is always credited to God. Someone who wanted to do violence according to the NT could also use passages to validate it.

27 posted on 05/02/2004 4:49:06 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Bommer
Isn't he the same God as in the New Testament?

Allah is NOT the God of the Old and New Testament.

(The name and symbolism of "Allah" is actually derived from the Moon god of the Egyptians, but that is a different discussion...)

28 posted on 05/02/2004 5:04:19 PM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
I could also twist Jesus' words commanding his disciples to buy swords. If you have violence in your heart you could use the fortune from your latest fortune cookie. So what?

A literal reading of the Koran foments violence. It is unique among the major religious texts in that respect.

29 posted on 05/02/2004 8:03:08 PM PDT by mcg1969
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To: antiRepublicrat
The omniscient, omnipotent, never-changing God seems to have gotten a lot more peaceful after Christ. But even the NT proscribes nasty punishment for the unbelievers.

So which is it? Did he get more peaceful, or didn't he? To the extent he did it is only because his wrath and judgement has been placed upon the back of his Son.

This punishment is done by God and angels

Who said? Just because torment exists in Hell doesn't mean God or his angels actually performs it. God simply turns his back on those who don't believe---which it would seem is quite consistent with their choice.

but then in the OT the Jews taking a city is always credited to God.

Indeed. They were a particularly weak people in comparison to their neighbors, much of the time. They sure as heck couldn't do it alone.

Someone who wanted to do violence according to the NT could also use passages to validate it.

And as I said in another post, I could use a fortune cookie if I so chose. I think a balanced judgement, however, would demonstrate that the literal reading of the Koran commands violence, in the same way that a literal reading of the Bible condemns homosexuality. That liberals of both religions twist their scriptures to suit their purposes is another matter.

Don't get me wrong, were it in my power I would gladly encourage the proliferation of liberal, non-violent Islam. But true Islam it is not.

30 posted on 05/02/2004 8:12:46 PM PDT by mcg1969
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To: dennisw
Deuteronomy 7:1-2: "... the seven nations greater and mightier than thou; And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them."

Joshua 6:21: "And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.

Numbers 31:1-18: "...And they warred against the Midianites, as the Lord commanded moses, and they slew all the [adult] males. And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones...And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses...And Moses was angry with the officers of the host And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Ba'laam, to commit trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the Lord. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the female children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."

Psalms 137:8-9: "O Daughter of Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us -- he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks."
31 posted on 05/02/2004 8:14:25 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: dennisw; All
Exodus 32:26-28: "Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, Who is on the LORD's side? let him come unto me. And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him. And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour. And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men."

Numbers 25:1-9: "And Israel abode in Shittim, and the people began to commit whoredom with the daughters of Moab. And they called the people unto the sacrifices of their gods: and the people did eat, and bowed down to their gods...And the LORD said unto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the LORD against the sun...And, behold, one of the children of Israel came and brought unto his brethren a Midianitish woman in the sight of Moses, and in the sight of all the congregation...And when Phinehas...saw it, he rose up...and took a javelin in his hand...and thrust both of them through."

1 Kings 18:17-40: "And it came to pass, when Ahab saw Elijah, that Ahab said unto him, Art thou he that troubleth Israel? And he answered, I have not troubled Israel; but thou, and thy father's house, in that ye have forsaken the commandments of the LORD, and thou hast followed Baalim. Now therefore send, and gather to me all Israel unto mount Carmel, and the prophets of Baal four hundred and fifty, and the prophets of the groves four hundred, which eat at Jezebel's table...And call ye on the name of your gods, and I will call on the name of the LORD: and the God that answereth by fire, let him be God. And all the people answered and said, It is well spoken...Then the fire of the LORD fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that was in the trench. And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces: and they said, The LORD, he is the God; the LORD, he is the God. And Elijah said unto them, Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape. And they took them: and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon, and slew them there."

Exodus 20:5-6 "Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments."

32 posted on 05/02/2004 8:21:37 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
Historically and today, Muslim scripture and Hadith are calls for Jihad. The good Muslim is called to Jihad by the Koran and to emulate Mohammed's life of Jihad. Very unlike the Bible verses you have posted.
33 posted on 05/02/2004 9:24:51 PM PDT by dennisw (GD is against Amalek for all generations)
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To: dennisw
bumping. bookmarking and saving offline for later.
34 posted on 05/02/2004 9:26:34 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Man Allah sure is bloodthirsty.

Yeah, the god of the Old Testament was really peaceful.

The difference is that Christianity has been through a reformation and matured over 2000 years.

And Islamic New Testament is required or else their civilization will eventually go the way of the Aztecs, Carthage and the Kali-Thuggee worshippers.

35 posted on 05/02/2004 9:31:30 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: dennisw
And I always point out that those verses are actually from the books of the Jewish religion. The books of the Christian religion contains no such verses at all. Quite the opposite -- turn the other cheek, forgive them for they know not what they do, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, love thy neighbor, and so forth...
36 posted on 05/02/2004 9:49:38 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
And I always point out that those verses are actually from the books of the Jewish religion. The books of the Christian religion contains no such verses at all. Quite the opposite -- turn the other cheek, forgive them for they know not what they do, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, love thy neighbor, and so forth...

And the amusing part is the long record of Christian brutality, pogroms, anti Semitism in Europe. Some of it church promoted. Much of it church tolerated. While the Jews, with their bloodier holy book, never got to return much in kind to their tormenters.

To repeat. Jews are not commanded to emulate the bloodier passages in the Old Testament. 
OTOH Muslims are commanded to emulate the life of Muhammad. And Muhammad lead a life of blood. Though most Muslims will tell you their goal is to emulate the good parts of Muhammad's life

Quite the opposite -- turn the other cheek, forgive them for they know not what they do, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, love thy neighbor, and so forth...

And how did this all work out in practice, how Jews were treated in Europe?

37 posted on 05/03/2004 4:36:21 AM PDT by dennisw (GD is against Amalek for all generations)
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To: Centurion2000; mcg1969
The difference is that Christianity has been through a reformation and matured over 2000 years. And Islamic New Testament is required

Ding! We have a winner! Condemning Islam isn't good when your own religion has some pretty dark points to it, just realize that they're behind the times. Facing the might of the United States may just be what they needed to make them grow up quickly.

38 posted on 05/03/2004 7:24:01 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Criticism of conquest by Christianity is something to be addressed. The problem came about when Emperor Constantine hijacked Christianity and turned it into a State Church; Roman Catholicism. During the years when governments were wed to the Roman Catholic church, despots were able to use the latin liturgy to keep the masses ignorant and enoble themselves in a shroud of divinity.

This is precisely the method used by Mohammad when he plagiarized the religions of his day in order to lend himself the aura of divinity that gave him absolute power to plunder his world for booty.

Christianity has long since renounced this connection between rulers and the church.

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/
39 posted on 05/03/2004 7:41:54 AM PDT by OK
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To: ambrose; All
"The Islamic Sufis never subscribed to this Jihadist insanity"

That is my understanding as well. BTW, do you know if that 72 virgin thing is really in the Koran? If it is, it would be interesting to know the context.
40 posted on 05/03/2004 7:44:13 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (The Will of God is Good! Not my will, not my will, not my will, but Thine be done!)
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