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New Web Site Alleges Conservatives Control Media.
RatherBiased.com ^

Posted on 05/03/2004 5:26:15 AM PDT by RatherBiased.com

Upset at an alleged conservative dominance of the news media, the liberal Center for American Progress has created a new think tank dedicated to rectifying the problem by exposing "erroneous assertions" made by conservative media figures.

Heading the effort is, David Brock, who made a name as a conservative journalist and author but later renounced his work and proclaimed he was a liberal.

"The right wing in this country has dominated the debate over liberal bias," Brock told the New York Times. "By dominating that debate, my belief is they've moved the media itself to the right and therefore they've moved American politics to the right."

Brock hopes that his new organization, through its Web site www.mediamatters.org, will be able to take back the debate through reaching out to the Internet-using public and providing fodder for liberal radio personalities to discuss.

Instead of focusing on news personalities and publications which claim to be nonpartisan, however, Media Matters will apparently target commentators. Visiting the site's offices, Times reporter Jim Rutenberg couldn't help but notice that small-audience cable news is the bee in David Brock's bonnet:

"In Mr. Brock's new K Street offices on Friday morning, a team of nearly a half-dozen researchers [...] wore headphones as they scanned episodes of cable news programs stored on digital recording devices, among them Hannity & Colmes on Fox News Channel, Dennis Miller on CNBC and Scarborough Country on MSNBC. Two researchers have been assigned to cover Mr. Limbaugh, whose program they will regularly transcribe."

It's hard not to see that focus shift as somewhat of a concession to the view that the biggest news outlets in America are controlled by liberals. If the best they can do is pick bones with people who are frank about their political views, don't expect Brock & Co. to be around for long.


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brock; davidschlock; mediabias

1 posted on 05/03/2004 5:26:16 AM PDT by RatherBiased.com
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To: RatherBiased.com
""The right wing in this country has dominated the debate over liberal bias," Brock told the New York Times. "By dominating that debate, my belief is they've moved the media itself to the right and therefore they've moved American politics to the right.""

Translation: We got caught with our biases down and are having a heck of time convincing you dumb twits that we aren't biased at all, what with all the alternative news sources. So we are going to monitor your right-wing conservative sites and tell you that these right-wing conservative sites are really, really right-wing conservative sites pretending to be unbiased self-proclaimed right-wing conservative sites.

Got that?
2 posted on 05/03/2004 5:35:38 AM PDT by OpusatFR (John Kerry - Cheezewhiz for the mind - marshmallow mush for the masses)
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To: RatherBiased.com
This is a little like looking for dangerous manufacturing practices in the Auto Industry -- and ignoring Ford, Chrysler, GM, Toyota, and Honda. "I know! We'll investigate Bentley! I'm sure we can find evidence that will prove our point!"
3 posted on 05/03/2004 5:36:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (You can see it coming like a train on a track.)
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To: RatherBiased.com
So can we fire Tom, Peter, Dan, Judy ... now?
4 posted on 05/03/2004 5:37:19 AM PDT by snooker
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To: RatherBiased.com
"The right wing in this country has dominated the debate over liberal bias,"

Should we expect the biased party to examine their own biases,wouldn't they be..biased?
5 posted on 05/03/2004 5:38:09 AM PDT by Redcoat LI ("help to drive the left one into the insanity.")
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To: RatherBiased.com
Brock is a nutball.
6 posted on 05/03/2004 5:41:20 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (From each according to his inability, to each according to his misdeeds - DNC Motto)
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To: RatherBiased.com
Brock hopes that his new organization, through its Web site www.mediamatters.org, will be able to take back the debate through reaching out to the Internet-using public and providing fodder for liberal radio personalities to discuss.

Because errAmerica could probably use the help.

7 posted on 05/03/2004 5:41:31 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: RatherBiased.com
The standard Leftist argument is that since a few large conglomerates control most of the TV and radio stations, the media obviously has a conservative bias (because large conglomerates are, of course, by definition "right-wing, conservative, reactionary" entities).
8 posted on 05/03/2004 5:41:42 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: RatherBiased.com
According to the NY Times, Brock's group got $2 million from wealthy liberals to fund their blog. $2 million! For a blog!

This is just another Dem spinoff funded by the same people who promoted Air America. If you look at their website you'll be scratching your head to think THAT is what $2 million liberal bucks will buy. It's horribly boring.

9 posted on 05/03/2004 5:44:00 AM PDT by Timeout (Weren't none of us recently fell off a turnip truck)
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To: RatherBiased.com

Here are a couple of the Liberal elite in the Media!

10 posted on 05/03/2004 5:46:06 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: OpusatFR
It is true that since there is a more moderate venue of opinion now available in the media, that the typical far left perspective has indeed moved to the right.
Since the far left views even the DLC wing of the democratic party as conservative and right wing, the argument should not be focused on whether there is a Liberal bias, but that there is a democratic party bias within the media.
11 posted on 05/03/2004 5:46:44 AM PDT by Katya
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To: Timeout
Is mediamatters.com a non-profit?
12 posted on 05/03/2004 5:47:03 AM PDT by Mamzelle (for a post-Neo conservatism)
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To: RatherBiased.com
Just another pinheaded propaganda machine to keep the latte' crowd talking.
13 posted on 05/03/2004 5:47:54 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: RatherBiased.com
"Heading the effort is, David Brock, who made a name as a conservative journalist and author but later renounced his work and proclaimed he was a liberal"

Confusing, you often hear of a man starting out liberal, and through wisdom and reality checks, ending up being conservative, but the other way around????
14 posted on 05/03/2004 5:50:18 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (Centerism means that the state grows more slowly- gives Liberty a slow and painful death)
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To: RatherBiased.com
As somebody who has lived in many parts of the world, I have to say that US media is undoubtedly biased to the Right. But is that just an example of the market reacting to the customer?
15 posted on 05/03/2004 5:54:19 AM PDT by KingKangaroo (If only it was a choice between good and evil.)
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To: RatherBiased.com
HA!HA!..LOL!...need..more..cheese...got enough whine.
16 posted on 05/03/2004 5:55:13 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: Timeout
Brock's group got $2 million from wealthy liberals to fund their blog. $2 million!

I'm sure I'm not the first to think of this, but ...

Couldn't Soros fund a blog for about $2M? And couldn't he hire 1000 poor people with a salary of $2100 a piece? With the understanding that they would each keep $100 (for services rendered as "consultants" to the blog) and then donate the remainder of their salary to the Kerry For President Campaign?

Then Soros can hire one guy to write the blog and pay him $100,000 to justify the whole money laundering scheme.

17 posted on 05/03/2004 5:59:02 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (You can see it coming like a train on a track.)
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To: RatherBiased.com
Their name ought to be Center for Real American Progress (or C.R.A.P. for short.)
18 posted on 05/03/2004 6:03:57 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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19 posted on 05/03/2004 6:05:41 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: KingKangaroo
no brother, US Media is just less biased to the left than the BBC, but still biased to the left.

Hence, why you are reading FR, Drudge, Newsmax, Worldnetdaily, debka, and other forms of alternative news.
20 posted on 05/03/2004 6:06:27 AM PDT by PokeyJoe (French fried franks for free)
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To: OpusatFR
Poor David..went to the heights with, THE REAL ANITA HILL STORY..then his personal life revealed was by his envious foes, he was a honest writer..he now whines for the liberals. A little BLOG site...and David Bock...Thats' what $2 million gets you.
21 posted on 05/03/2004 6:08:05 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: Katya
"It is true that since there is a more moderate venue of opinion now available in the media, that the typical far left perspective has indeed moved to the right."

I don't see it. The tv, print and journos are more to the left and shriller than ever since they cannot control the dissemination of news.

Watching the evening news and cable is like watching Terry MacAuliff and the DNC talking points slammed at your brain. They have given up any pretence at this point.
22 posted on 05/03/2004 6:08:54 AM PDT by OpusatFR (John Kerry - Cheezewhiz for the mind - marshmallow mush for the masses)
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To: PokeyJoe
I read all sorts of news sources and the truth be told, I trust none of them. Right or left.
23 posted on 05/03/2004 6:10:07 AM PDT by KingKangaroo (If only it was a choice between good and evil.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Exactly. According to Marxist-Leninist-Trotskyites any business which seeks a profit and hires wage-slaves is reactionary and conservative.

24 posted on 05/03/2004 6:11:06 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad (x = x + 1)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Nice pics. Photographic evidence of the "dumbing down" effect.
25 posted on 05/03/2004 6:14:49 AM PDT by airborne (lead by example)
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To: All
We need to rephrase this debate. The "media" may indeed be conservative because conservatives dominate talk shows, where they have to earn a profit.

It is "journalism" that is horribly unbalanced and liberal and which does not have to earn a profit -- and which should have strict numerical balance imposed on it. Journalists should have to make a declaration of party affiliation and/or philosophical leaning when they apply for jobs. They won't know what orientation needs filling when they do so they won't be able to lie. Meaning, at first they will know they must claim to be conservative because they are overwhelmingly liberal now, but after a few years the new hires won't know which way to lie so they will just tell the truth.

As for talk shows, if liberals feel they can make a profit, let them have at it.

So be careful of phrasing. It isn't the media that is biased. It is journalism that is biased. This will irritate them because they know journalism schools are staffed with liberals. It is undeniable. They try to claim talk shows are their excuse. Use the proper wording and they are denied this.
26 posted on 05/03/2004 6:15:02 AM PDT by Owen
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To: RatherBiased.com
Upset at an alleged conservative dominance of the news media

huh?

The right wing in this country has dominated the debate over liberal bias

The liberal mind's defense mechanism is that people are tricked into conservatism. And they believe that, because that's what they do.
27 posted on 05/03/2004 6:24:11 AM PDT by Vision (Always Faithful)
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To: jimbo123
HEY!! Are those hiar plugs I see? He's so vain. ROFLMAO
28 posted on 05/03/2004 6:39:36 AM PDT by WideGlide
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To: jimbo123
HEY!! Are those hair plugs I see? He's so vain. ROFLMAO
29 posted on 05/03/2004 6:40:25 AM PDT by WideGlide
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To: RatherBiased.com
Center for American Progress

Cr.A.P.

30 posted on 05/03/2004 6:58:50 AM PDT by uglybiker (If I wanted a Harley, I would have bought a Harley. I didn't, and I didn't.)
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To: RatherBiased.com
Yeah really. ABS, NBS, CBS, CNS, and what have you - guess all that liberal propaganda is the vast right wing conspiracy's means of keeping all those liberals glued to their TV sets. They have a point - its working. hehehe.
31 posted on 05/03/2004 11:26:07 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: OpusatFR; All
what's revealing about Brock's comment is that he believes that making media moves along the political spectrum automatically moves the popular politics in that direction. Turnabout, in this case, is more than fair play... it reveals the left's true agenda. If media can move right (and take the sheeple with them) they can also move left.

There's a saying in spanish that describes this perfectly; "...segun su condicion juzga el ladron..." which roughly translated means the thief believes everyone wants to steal from him.

Mr. Brock has admitted in so many words that the direct wish of the leftist media is to move American politics, to move America, to the left.

CGVet58

32 posted on 05/03/2004 12:22:06 PM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us liberty, and we owe Him courage in return)
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To: Owen
"The "media" may indeed be conservative because conservatives dominate talk shows, where they have to earn a profit."

In Ireland, we have RTE- it is state owned, ie. it dosen't have to earn a profit, so very lefty lefty lefty.
33 posted on 05/03/2004 1:30:28 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (Centerism means that the state grows more slowly- gives Liberty a slow and painful death)
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To: RatherBiased.com
New website will also assert East is West, Bad is Good, and Al Franken is Funny.
34 posted on 05/03/2004 4:11:13 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Hey, I wouldn't touch Camryn Manheim's uterus on a bet.)
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To: RatherBiased.com
liberal radio personalities

Liberals on the radio have no personality. :>)

35 posted on 05/03/2004 4:18:48 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: RatherBiased.com
That's what they have, huh. What they have can be disputed. As far as the right wing attack almost bringing down a president, what the hell is the left doing now. They can put this bs up against the MRC any day. Anyway, they already have FAIR for their left wing media center.
36 posted on 05/03/2004 4:24:13 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (it's coming and if you don't get off the tracks it will run you down)
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To: RatherBiased.com
New Web Site Alleges Conservatives Control Media.

This has gotta be the Joke of the Day. HAHAHAHA! BWAAAHAAAA! TeeHee! Snicker! ROFLMBO!!

37 posted on 05/03/2004 4:27:23 PM PDT by mafree
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To: RatherBiased.com
Silly left-wingers. It's we Zionists that control the media!
38 posted on 05/03/2004 5:35:20 PM PDT by thoughtomator (yesterday Kabul, today Baghdad, tomorrow Damascus)
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To: OpusatFR
That's because the DNC and Terry Mcauliffe don't represent the far left....they represent democrats. Because you now have some moderate programs like Fox news, the news seems slanted further to the right....to the FAR LEFT. Remember the far left, in this country consider themselves to be the intellectual wing of progressive movement. Think Nation magazine and Katrina van den Heuvel. They have never seen a far left media, because everyone is further right than they are.
39 posted on 05/03/2004 5:50:38 PM PDT by Katya
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To: RatherBiased.com
...among them Hannity & Colmes on Fox News Channel, Dennis Miller on CNBC and Scarborough Country on MSNBC. Two researchers have been assigned to cover Mr. Limbaugh, whose program they will regularly transcribe."

Each of these programs is a news commentary program where the hosts make no attempt to hide their bias or represent themselves as being impartial. Contrast with ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, PBS, and NPR who present the news with an agenda that they cannot hide no matter how hard they try. Their agenda is crystal clear when you look at not only what they report but what they fail to report. Their failure to give the whole story has given Fox News and the other conservative veiwpoints their market.

40 posted on 05/03/2004 7:22:40 PM PDT by eggman
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To: RatherBiased.com
I thought Jews controlled the media..... /sarcasm
41 posted on 05/03/2004 7:44:20 PM PDT by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: jimbo123; All
Hey I thought David Brock was done and over

I hear he is Real QUeen of DC

You know what I mean
42 posted on 05/04/2004 11:02:16 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: snooker
Well Tom is retiring, but there's nobody worse than Terry Moran on ABC.
43 posted on 05/04/2004 11:06:44 AM PDT by petercooper (We did not have to prove Saddam had WMD, he had to prove he didn't.)
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To: RatherBiased.com
Are you listening to the debate or just making stuff up as you go along?

This issue is not bias in the media, of course the media has bias.

The issue is corporate control of the media and censorship.
44 posted on 05/05/2004 9:11:29 PM PDT by md10010
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To: md10010
The issue is: ZOT!
45 posted on 05/05/2004 9:19:34 PM PDT by mikegi
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
"Their name ought to be Center for Real American Progress (or C.R.A.P. for short.)"

LOL. Conservatives control the media! They should call their web site: ParallelUniverse.org
46 posted on 05/05/2004 9:25:27 PM PDT by Rocky (To the 9/11 Commission: It was Al Qaeda, stupid!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
FR is the Bentley of the media! Model shown 2004 Continental GT. Top speed 215 mph.


47 posted on 05/05/2004 9:35:45 PM PDT by xp38
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To: xp38
Oh it's the fastest production 4 seater in the world.
48 posted on 05/05/2004 9:42:25 PM PDT by xp38
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