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"Prepare as much as you can -- terrorism is part of Islam."
Jihad Watch ^ | 5/5/04 | Jihad watch

Posted on 05/05/2004 9:02:58 AM PDT by Mark Felton

A MUSLIM who publicly declared his support for the Madrid terrorists and claims he wants to be a `martyr' is being investigated by police.

Hassan Butt, aged 24, from Manchester, featured in a TV programme which alleged that British Muslims are preparing to take up arms despite the efforts of the police and security forces.

Butt, who has previously been arrested twice under the Terrorism Act, said he "envies" the Madrid bombers and that he too would like to become a martyr. He said: "It is my hope that by the age of 40 I am a martyr - and if I hadn't I would probably be a bit dejected in not being among the martyrs of Islam." Asked if he was prepared to follow other British Muslims to a terror training camp, he says he would be "honoured" and that he would have his mother's support.

A dhimmi police official was standing by to correct the negative image Butt had left of Islam:

But Chief Superintendent Tony Kane said: "Greater Manchester Police will be viewing the programme to determine what, if any, offences have been committed.

"The experience of Greater Manchester Police staff in dealing with our Muslim communities is that the vast majority of British Muslim are appaled by terrorist atrocities.

"Furthermore, they believe that Islam categorically forbids any such violence which causes death and mayhem. This view was clearly expressed in a letter to all British mosques by the Muslim Council of Britain."

The Real Story with Fiona Bruce programme claimed many young men, like Butt, are influenced by London-based Omar Bakri, leader of the controversial al Muhajiroun group.

It said he has recently defended the Madrid bombers and told young British Muslims, some as young as 10, that they must "kill and be killed" for Islam, that "suicide bombers would be guaranteed a place in paradise", and even that they should consider "flying a plane into 10 Downing Street".

And, referring to the continued presence of British, Spanish and US forces in Iraq, it said he told an east London audience: "What happened in Madrid is all revenge. Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, life for life. Anybody (that) commits a crime he should be punished - that's exactly what happened in relation to Spain.

"Objective number one - break the psychology of the occupier by hitting back in their homeland. To be worried about their own wives and loved ones."

"Prepare as much as you can from strength and from force to terrorise - because terrorism it is part of Islam."


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"By nature's law, man is at peace with man till some aggression is committed, which, by the same law, authorizes one to destroy another as his enemy." --Thomas Jefferson to Edmond C. Genet, 1793. ME 9:136
1 posted on 05/05/2004 9:02:59 AM PDT by Mark Felton
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To: Mark Felton
uuhhhhhhhh.................

You said "Butt"

heh heh hehhehheh
2 posted on 05/05/2004 9:05:16 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: WhiteGuy
lol
3 posted on 05/05/2004 9:07:17 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Mark Felton
Butt, who has previously been arrested twice under the Terrorism Act, said he "envies" the Madrid bombers and that he too would like to become a martyr.

Put him out in a field a couple of hundred yards from me and I'd be glad to make him a .308 caliber martyr.

4 posted on 05/05/2004 9:07:49 AM PDT by scooter2
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To: Mark Felton
A dhimmi police official was standing by to correct the negative image Butt had left of Islam:


What madness. It's like Hitler&co. kill six million Jews, and start a WWII, killing tens of millions more worldwide and someone steps in and "corrects the negative image" fascism leaves behind.
5 posted on 05/05/2004 9:14:02 AM PDT by sully777 (Our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
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To: Mark Felton
But, didn't you know, that these people who turn to terrorism do so only because they live in terrible conditions in their own countries and because of oppression? I guess life in Northern England has taken a turn for the worse then, if it has turned all these Brit Muslims into terrorists...../sarcasm
6 posted on 05/05/2004 9:15:38 AM PDT by Ashamed Canadian
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To: scooter2
"Put him out in a field a couple of hundred yards from me and I'd be glad to make him a .308 caliber martyr."

My personal preference is .30-06. But a .308 would be just dandy, too.
7 posted on 05/05/2004 9:25:59 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: ought-six
Seeing as I'm not allowed to have a gun, I'll be using my compound bow....
8 posted on 05/05/2004 9:31:07 AM PDT by Ashamed Canadian
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To: Mark Felton
Time for some major Butt-kicking to occur!
9 posted on 05/05/2004 9:37:42 AM PDT by ikka
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To: Mark Felton
Butt is 24 years old and "...said he 'envies' the Madrid bombers and that he too would like to become a martyr. He said: 'It is my hope that by the age of 40 I am a martyr'...."

Wow. The sixteen year plan. A real go-getter, too.

Some guys just want to be milliionaires by the time they reach four-oh.
10 posted on 05/05/2004 9:48:12 AM PDT by Chummy (Republican Attack Squad HQ: "crooked, lying, you know, an enemy to liberals"(tm))
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To: sully777
Fly a plane into #10 Downing St -- yikes! The Brits have nurtured a nest of vipers in their midst.
11 posted on 05/05/2004 9:49:50 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: ought-six
My personal preference is .30-06. But a .308 would be just dandy, too.

That would be a .308 caliber also. Don't confuse caliber with cartridge. ;~)

12 posted on 05/05/2004 10:04:09 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: scooter2
I prefer a bayonet. Gives me a chance to get to know him while he squeals like a pig.
13 posted on 05/05/2004 10:36:37 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
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To: Mark Felton
"Prepare as much as you can from strength and from force to terrorise - because terrorism it is part of Islam."

Unless we come to grips with this fact, we will not win the war on terrorism.

14 posted on 05/05/2004 10:40:25 AM PDT by k2blader (Some folks should worry less about how conservatives vote and more about how to advance conservatism)
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To: WhiteGuy

Heheh heheh heheh

15 posted on 05/05/2004 10:42:49 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: Mark Felton
Dead Enders, Islamo-fascist, and terrorists do not surrender. They want to
die while killing the infidel. We have not come to grips with this, even though
it makes no sense to us. Their beliefs are as deeply and strongly held
as the beliefs of Christians in Jesus Christ and The Father. They have a
devoutly held belief in the glory of murdering us.

I fear that we think that these people can be reasoned with. They can not.
We are going to have to kill them. The reason that we are going to have to
kill all of them is because they want it that way. And they are fully capable
and willing of killing themselves in the effort to kill us. They are very happy
when one of theirs dies killing us. They dance and sing and shoot guns in
the air.

We are going to have to kill several million people before the War on Terror
is any where near over.

They have to be shown the futility in their goals. We must make their goals futile.
We must make them believers in extinction.

16 posted on 05/05/2004 10:44:21 AM PDT by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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To: scooter2
Put him out in a field a couple of hundred yards from me and I'd be glad to make him a .308 caliber martyr.

Just give me three feet and a claymore sword...

17 posted on 05/05/2004 10:47:52 AM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: OnTheDress
exactly correct. Their scriptures command then to kill us.

The war will not be over until islam is dead

18 posted on 05/05/2004 10:56:35 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Kenton
Just give me three feet and a claymore sword...

I'd use the katana my Dad brought back from Okinawa...it's still more than sharp enough for the job.

19 posted on 05/05/2004 11:55:37 AM PDT by Mackey
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To: WhiteGuy
Whoo...you've got me laughing too!
20 posted on 05/05/2004 1:48:54 PM PDT by happygrl (this war is for all the marbles...we can't go Spanish!)
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To: scooter2
Come on.. make it sporting.. I've shot prairie dogs at over 400...
21 posted on 05/05/2004 1:53:37 PM PDT by tje
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To: Mark Felton
bttt
22 posted on 05/05/2004 7:55:02 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: Ciexyz
Yup - read Salman Rushdie ("Satanic verses") - in this book Rushdie describes how ayatollah Khomeini had a nice stay in UK for several years. :)
IMHO Brits will fall victims of their own "proper" way of doing things.
23 posted on 05/06/2004 6:04:30 AM PDT by K. Smirnov
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To: Hugin
"That would be a .308 caliber also. Don't confuse caliber with cartridge. ;~)"

Don't worry, I know of what I speak. My comment referred to the .30-06 Springfield vs. the .308 Winchester, the former of which is the more powerful round. I prefer the .308 Winchester as a battle round (such as in the
M-14), although the .30-06 Springfield in the M-1 Garand is also a superb battle round. For hunting and "reaching out and touching," the .30-06 Springfield is my preferred choice.
24 posted on 05/07/2004 4:32:28 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Mark Felton
A dhimmi police official was standing by to correct the negative image Butt had left of Islam... "Furthermore, they believe that Islam categorically forbids any such violence which causes death and mayhem. This view was clearly expressed in a letter to all British mosques by the Muslim Council of Britain."

Shouldn't that be an Islamic official was standing by to correct the negative image? Shouldn't the Islamic community be writing the letter explaining they don't condone death and mayhem?

25 posted on 05/07/2004 4:39:23 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Mark Felton
We ought to give them their wishes and make them all martyrs.

The sooner, the better!

26 posted on 05/07/2004 5:13:51 AM PDT by Gritty ("Break the occupier by hitting their homeland. Terrorism is part of Islam-Omar Bakri, al Muhajiroun)
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To: ought-six
I have an Enfield bolt .308, and love it. I'd like a FAL or G36 clone I think though, for semi-auto higher capacity.

The M1 Garand's big downside is you can't reload until the last shot is fired. At least the original design. Does Springfield have a newer type?
27 posted on 05/07/2004 5:16:30 AM PDT by Monty22
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To: Mark Felton
The United States and the West in general need to adopt an "Assimilate or Get Out" immigration policy. Make it clear, when you leave your homeland, you leave that culture behind. That means, adopt our language, our schools, our manner of dress, our values, our equality of the sexes. And no importation of militant, anti-American imans to preach at their mosques. They have the freedom to choose to stay over there or come over here but if they come, they should be the one to change - NOT US.
28 posted on 05/07/2004 5:29:40 AM PDT by PFC
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To: OnTheDress
Even if the percentage of muslims, that are now willing to attack us openly, are eliminated, the fact remains that they will patiently wait for favourable conditions to renew their (un)holy quest for domination.

It was the injection of oil dollars and globalization, (instant communications, fast jet travel, international banking & fraud, quick & malleable 'news' reporting, etc.) which gave them the means to infiltrate, emigrate, subvert and threaten the civilized world.

The various Islamic cults, their media and their leaders must be distracted, collared, monitored, defanged, impoverished, discredited, sterilized and reprogramming with a progressive (rewritten) version of their Koran, Hadiths, and Sunnah - before the future is safe from Mohammed's cult.
29 posted on 05/07/2004 5:46:05 AM PDT by Doctor DNA
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