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F.A.A. Official Scrapped Tape of 9/11 Controllers' Statements
Times ^ | 050604 | By MATTHEW L. WALD

Posted on 05/06/2004 11:15:22 AM PDT by Archangelsk

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To: swarthyguy
I think your scenario is probably correct. Saudis.
41 posted on 05/06/2004 1:50:39 PM PDT by snopercod (I used to be disgusted. Then I became amused. Now I'm disgusted again.)
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To: bootless
At KSC I used to work with a former PATCO controller. He told me that there were two types of controllers when things got hectic: Hair-twisters and ball-grabbers.

Ask PR about that ;-)

42 posted on 05/06/2004 1:53:00 PM PDT by snopercod (I used to be disgusted. Then I became amused. Now I'm disgusted again.)
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To: Archangelsk
The inspector general ascribed the destruction to "poor judgment."

Sounds like he nailed it. Someone was treating this as union/management "business as usual" and the procedure that the top manager came up with -- have everybody put his recollections on tape while they were still as fresh as possible -- is a good one. Human memory is poor evidence, and with each passing minute and hour it gets poorer.

Unfortunately, because that procedure deviated from FAA SOP, the QA manager went into CYA mode. This is normal MO for the line trollers, who often feel that management is "the enemy" and "out to get them." Everybody talks the safety talk but when something happens, the bureaucracy as always responds by trying to cover favoured arses and lop off disfavoured heads....

The QA Manager was too simple to see that this was not a normal "deal" (as the trollers call a loss-of-separation incident or procedural violation) or mishap investigation.

I don't ascribe to conspiracy that which is adequately explained by bungling -- especially when dealing with the Friendly Aviation Agency or any other element of USG. This will no doubt become grist for the gubmint-haters, the Jack Cashills out there. But there's no substance here -- a jackass deleted a primary source record, dumb, and left us with another primary source record from the same people. I believe that the tape would have superior evidentiary value to the written statements, but as other posters here have pointed out, we are not talking about the data tapes, or the audio tapes of the comm frequencies or inter-controller phone network, all of which still exist. We are talking about a contemporaneous "oral history" sort of tape. The controllers as far as I know are all still alive and available to investigators.

The QA manager should have his pee-pee whacked for being too stupid to recognise that a four-plane hijacking and suicidal attack on American cities justified a violation of a bureaucratic rule. However, stupidity does not violate any FAA regulation of which I am aware.

As far as not releasing their names, heck, some of the cranks pushing these conspiracy theories are convicted felons -- would you want them creeping through your begonias and peering in your bedroom window? If the prosecutor had found the QA manager's actions to be criminal, not just stupid, then we would know his name. (And the reason we know the names of many of the Abu Ghraib miscreants is that a classified document leaked). But it was actually the overall center manager who violated FAA regs/policy for ordering the interviews in the first place. (IMHO that was an inspired act and he should be commended for it, it showed considerable nerve for a bureaucratic manager to do that, even if it ultimately was fruitless).

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

43 posted on 05/06/2004 1:58:42 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Archangelsk
The inspector general ascribed the destruction to "poor judgment."

The thought process on our side is sometimes underwhelming!

44 posted on 05/06/2004 2:03:29 PM PDT by patriot_wes (The)
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To: Wurlitzer
There is no "privacy" when it comes to government employee discipline, pay, work location, etc. UNLESS they perform some kind of duties involving security or classified materials.

That means the FAA guy is lieing through his teeth. Time to get Congress on his case and find out who the people were on the tape, who the so-called "quality assurance" guy was, and then demand to know their current salary!

45 posted on 05/06/2004 5:07:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: swarthyguy
I blame the wildeyed conspiracy theories on a simple hatred of Bush. I got to listening for a while to Air America radio, particularly Garofalo's show. What struck me was that she and her callers would all readily believe anything no matter how absurd on its face it was. As long as it somehow case Bush, Cheney or Rumsfeld specifically or conservatives generally in some kind of crooked light, they were ready and willing to bite.

I have a theory that liberals confuse interesting with compelling. Just because something is interesting doesn't mean it is true or should become a foundation for a belief system.
46 posted on 05/07/2004 6:52:14 AM PDT by SittinYonder (I am a believer)
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To: Archangelsk
ATC was able to put more than 6000 planes on the ground in 30 minutes. Considering the circumstances, that is beyond extraordinary.

As a former army air defense officer [Nike-Hercules], I consider that accomplishment a miracle.

47 posted on 05/07/2004 12:43:19 PM PDT by elbucko
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