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6 suspects in home invasions are illegal
Atlanta Journal Constituion ^ | 5/6/2004 | Lateef Mungin

Posted on 05/06/2004 10:55:07 PM PDT by TheLurkerX

"Six of the eight suspects arrested in connection with a recent spree of home-invasion robberies are illegal immigrants, authorities said.

Police said the eight suspects arrested Friday are part of an organized crew that stormed into at least seven homes in Gwinnett and one in Barrow County. The suspects are scheduled to appear at a Gwinnett pretrial hearing Friday...."

"In a string of home invasions, police say, masked, armed bandits battered and shot male victims, sexually assaulted some female victims and pistol-whipped a child. They have stolen money, jewelry and vehicles."

(Excerpt) Read more at ajc.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: aliens; home; homeinvasion; illegal; immigrantlist; invasions; suspects
Most of them were from Norcross. This is the reason I moved out of there 2 years ago. The gang symbols and crime popping up. That whole area is getting worse and worse.

I had to register for the site, looks like the AJC is going the way of the NYT.

1 posted on 05/06/2004 10:55:07 PM PDT by TheLurkerX
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To: Travis McGee
More fodder for the rough draft.........12 gauge and 4 rott solution IMHO.

Stay Safe !

2 posted on 05/06/2004 11:01:17 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: TheLurkerX
Evidently home invasion robery is just one more job US Citizens don't want to do. There, I saved the appologists the trouble.
3 posted on 05/06/2004 11:07:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Squantos; All
As Travis told me, civilization continues to slide. Everyone needs to train, bone up on self defence and stock enough stuff for at least a month. Don't be a fool and be caught short. Before you laugh at me ask yourself how much attention you get from your representatives now.
4 posted on 05/06/2004 11:10:29 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: TheLurkerX
" . . . masked, armed bandits battered and shot male victims, sexually assaulted some female victims and pistol-whipped a child."
5 posted on 05/06/2004 11:17:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin (LESS government please, NOT more.)
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
6 posted on 05/06/2004 11:24:41 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: gubamyster
And the politicians and bureacrats do nothing and pass laws to encourage more to come in..
7 posted on 05/06/2004 11:31:21 PM PDT by SAMWolf (I looked into my family tree and found out I was a sap.)
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To: Squantos
and:
Either keep one of the Rotts inside most of the time or also have a barky little thing that recognizes strange noises.

It's quite easy to toss poisoned meat over a fence for the dogs and damned hard to train them to only eat from your dish.
8 posted on 05/06/2004 11:31:44 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( If everything appears to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on.)
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To: gubamyster
Bios of Gwinnett home invasion suspects Information on seven home-invasion suspects according to documents at the Gwinnett Sheriff's Department. Gwinnett police expect to file more charges on these suspects.

  • Paulino Gonzalez-Martinez
    Born: July 8, 1982, in Mexico
    Address: 4350 Jimmy Carter Boulevard apartment 1912, Norcross
    Arrested: Friday
    Charges: Armed robbery
    Previous charges: No prior arrests in Gwinnett

  • Jose Martinez
    Born: July 29, 1985, in Mexico
    Address: 1506 Lane Ridge Lane, Dunwoody
    Arrested: Friday
    Charges: Armed robbery
    Previous charges: No prior arrests in Gwinnett

  • Gustavo Cisnero
    Born: July 6, 1986, in Mexico
    Address: No address, Norcross
    Arrested: Saturday
    Charges: Armed robbery and aggravated assault
    Previous charges: No prior arrests in Gwinnett

  • Mario Silverio
    Born: Jan. 9, 1978, in Mexico
    Address: 5129 Whitted Lane, Lilburn
    Arrested: Saturday
    Charges: Armed robbery
    Previous charges: No prior arrests in Gwinnett

  • Cecilio Castro Delacruz
    Born: July 30, 1978, in Mexico
    Address: No address, Lilburn
    Arrested: Saturday
    Charges: Armed robbery
    Previous charges: Arrested on June 1, 2002, charged with carrying a concealed weapon and impeding the flow of traffic. Arrested on Jan. 1, 2003, charged with entering an automobile with intent to commit a theft. Arrested on June 20, 2003, charged with entering an automobile with intent to commit a theft

  • Gonzalo Ortega
    Born: May 8, 1983, in Blackfoot, Idaho
    Address: 4350 Jimmy Carter Boulevard, Apt. 1912, Norcross
    Arrested: Saturday
    Charges: Armed robbery
    Previous charges: Arrested on March 16, 2004, charged with driving under the influence, driving with a suspended license and failure to maintain lane

  • Jaime Carrera Carmago
    Born: Nov. 3, 1985, in Mexico
    Address: 4350 Jimmy Carter Boulevard, Apt. 1912, Norcross
    Arrested: Friday
    Charges: Carrying a concealed weapon; driving without a license; possession of less than an ounce of marijuana and armed robbery
    Previous charges: No prior arrests in Gwinnett

9 posted on 05/07/2004 12:04:14 AM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Why would folks laugh at such good advice.......??

Always strive to be an asset and not a burden on your country ! Better to be proactive than having to be reactive any day. !!

Stay Safe !!

10 posted on 05/07/2004 12:24:11 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: TheLurkerX
Look how they live everywhere you look in Mexico --- iron bars on their windows, high fences with barbed wire along the top --- and you have to wonder why a certain type wants to bring it all here.
11 posted on 05/07/2004 12:56:18 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Look how they live everywhere you look in Mexico --- iron bars on their windows, high fences with barbed wire along the top --- and you have to wonder why a certain type wants to bring it all here.

Because they live with wrought iron fences and security guards at THEIR gates? Therefore, they don't care.

12 posted on 05/07/2004 1:01:57 AM PDT by garandgal
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To: FITZ
Look how they live everywhere you look in Mexico --- iron bars on their windows, high fences with barbed wire along the top

They've upgraded from broken glass?

13 posted on 05/07/2004 1:05:15 AM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: TheLurkerX
with a recent spree of home-invasion robberies

A spree. See? These migrants are hard working folks!

14 posted on 05/07/2004 1:09:49 AM PDT by Flyer (CAUTION! People May Be Dumber Than They Appear In The Forum)
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To: DoughtyOne
I have seen your comments for some time, and they are always to the point and salient to the topic.
Thanks for your insight.
This kind of thing has gotten completely out of hand.
When will the politicians "get it"?
15 posted on 05/07/2004 1:19:20 AM PDT by Embedded Freeper
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To: TheLurkerX
Home invasions are absolutely the worst crime imaginable. Ask any cop. The perps WANT you at home when they do this. They want to degrade, humiliate, torture, rape, and finally kill you.

Cops may not put out a great deal of effort to catch the average criminal, but when they get a gang of home invaders like this, they pull out all the stops.

And - and this is the most important thing - with home invaders, the only thing that will save you and your family is instantaneous - and I mean INSTANTANEOUS - access to a loaded firearm . I have seen statistics generated by the gun-grabbing Left which, while they dismiss the necessity for having loaded, immediately available firearms in the house, in an effort to justify "trigger lock" and "gun safe" legislation, nevertheless admit that in cases where an armed intruder kicks in your door, a loaded, instantly accessable firearm drastically improves your chances of survival.

Think about it, the next time your local coven of whining, cringing Commie Mommies starts trying to get a trigger lock law enacted...

16 posted on 05/07/2004 1:24:38 AM PDT by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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To: sarcasm
Cecilio Castro Delacruz Born: July 30, 1978, in Mexico Address: No address, Lilburn Arrested: Saturday Charges: Armed robbery Previous charges: Arrested on June 1, 2002, charged with carrying a concealed weapon and impeding the flow of traffic. Arrested on Jan. 1, 2003, charged with entering an automobile with intent to commit a theft. Arrested on June 20, 2003, charged with entering an automobile with intent to commit a theft
This guy is out on the streets because? Absurd.
It is interesting that 3 of these terrorists live at the same address.
And how fitting the street is named Jimmy Carter.
17 posted on 05/07/2004 1:27:51 AM PDT by Embedded Freeper
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To: sarcasm
What I usually see is high --- 8 feet or more ---- concrete fences with broken glass all along the top plus several strands of barbed wire --- everyone lives behind a fortress. It is beyond me why anyone wants to see us bring that way of life over here.
18 posted on 05/07/2004 1:52:04 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: garandgal
They are still not facing reality --- the elite in Mexico are now taking out kidnapping insurance policies --- and the only reason things don't explode are because we're taking in so many of their underclass --- what happens when we're saturated and there is no other place for them to go?
19 posted on 05/07/2004 1:54:00 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: TheLurkerX
Don't look for ballot measures, Congress, or the courts they've appointed to resolve this issue. They've all failed.

If crime among immigrants concerns you, and if you have suggestions for addressing immigration issues, please post here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1128482/posts
20 posted on 05/07/2004 2:27:52 AM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: TheLurkerX
...coming to a neighborhood near you, or, maybe your neighborhood!
21 posted on 05/07/2004 5:05:28 AM PDT by Gritty ("the national Democrat Party has declared its surrender in the war on terror"-Tom DeLay,R-TX)
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To: TheLurkerX
re: I had to register for the site, looks like the AJC is going the way of the NYT.)))

A disappointing trend--I can't keep up with the passwords, or I just don't care to.

The more that insist on subscriptions, the less of a time sink is the Internet. It may be a good trend!

Time is ripe for a summary service...wouldn't that be cool? You could transcend the fair-use laws, provide a quicker way to peruse. Would be ideal for FR.

22 posted on 05/07/2004 5:25:52 AM PDT by Mamzelle (for a post-Neo conservatism)
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To: TheLurkerX






No, if they are Illegals, they are not immigrants.


23 posted on 05/07/2004 6:10:17 AM PDT by Sabertooth ("I did not have Amnesty with that Illegal Alien." ~ President George W. Bush)
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To: Embedded Freeper





This guy is out on the streets because?

Because they are "future Republicans."


24 posted on 05/07/2004 6:12:54 AM PDT by Sabertooth ("I did not have Amnesty with that Illegal Alien." ~ President George W. Bush)
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To: TheLurkerX
Hispanics were the victims in all but one of the robberies.

Maybe they know better than to be kicking in the doors of us crazy-ass Southern white boys.

25 posted on 05/07/2004 6:44:33 AM PDT by spodefly (A 12.7mm attitude in a .17 caliber world, or something.)
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To: Embedded Freeper
When will the politicians "get it"?

They get it now. They don't care.

Looking the other way pays too well.

26 posted on 05/07/2004 6:45:53 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: sarcasm
I noticed that quite of few of the lowlifes lived on Jimmy Carter Boulevard. Just one more thing for the worst President of the 20th century to hang his hat on.
27 posted on 05/07/2004 6:51:57 AM PDT by macrahanish #1
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To: TheLurkerX; Squantos; Travis McGee; B4Ranch; sarcasm; Embedded Freeper; macrahanish #1; ...
KFI AM radio this date, Interview with Mr. March, the father of murdered Deputy David March:

The Dad of a murdered Deputy in LA just stated, "I don't know why we don't invade Mexico".

His son was executed at close range by an illegal alien.

They went on to say that Mexico harbors more people that have murderer and maimed U.S. citizens than died in the 911 attack.

He stated he was told by law enforcement officials in Los Angeles there are approximately 1000 from California *alone* that have fled to the safety of Mexico after murdering American citizens.

They estimate the well *over* 3000 people have been murdered in this country, and their killers have fled to safety of Mexico, where many of them remain untouchable. More than were murdered in the horrific 911 attack.

28 posted on 05/07/2004 9:39:03 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Tom Tancredo spoke about this horror last month:

"They (cities) won’t even allow their police to send information in about someone they arrested who are here illegally. Now we’ve got thousands of people who have been murdered or raped in this country because police were prevented from sharing important information with the Bureau of Immigration Control after they were arrested for something. At one time if a cop stopped a person who was here illegally he would turn him over to INS for deporting.

Now city after city will not allow police to call. Now they’ll arrest some guy for some meager thing for which he would have been deported for, let him go, then the guy goes on to commit a heinous crime. This has happened time after time after time. Then where do they go? They go to Mexico because they won’t extradite. In California there were 600 people who have murdered who are now in Mexico so they won’t be extradited back. And the Mexican government knows where they are.

Then the Mexican government has the audacity to go to the World Court and demand we give 52 Mexican nationals convicted of murder new trials because they were not allowed to talk with their counselors long enough prior to conviction. I’ll tell you what. If the Mexican Consulate would take a break from pushing Matricular Cards and provide all the counties and cities with lists of who’s here…” (wild applause drowned him out)

Your report, Joe, seems to indicate that the rate of violent crimes committed by illegals is rising too fast to accurately track. That is the definition of a crisis. - NRT
29 posted on 05/07/2004 10:04:31 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Is that a quote from Tancredo?
30 posted on 05/07/2004 10:09:32 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: TheLurkerX
(COPY AND DISTRIBUTE WIDELY. Revise and extend as you see fit, start a movement, print a petition, start a political party, confront your legislators, write letters, post posters, drop leaflets, demand, demand, demand…)

18 POINT ACTION PLAN: Border Violators

1) Close all US borders to illegal entry forthwith by any and all means possible, including military presence.

2) Maintain legitimate immigration levels at modest annual level with requirements that immigrants be employable or sufficiently wealthy for self-support if they do not intend to work, proficient in basic English and willing to be assimilated into American culture and language. All applicants shall provide prints, photos and DNA samples.

3) Legal immigration shall be awarded to individuals on a lottery basis, wherein all countries are given equal status in the immigration lottery, without regards to color or economic plight of originating nation.

4) Individuals of Islamic faith (muslims) from any country shall be denied immigration privileges or entry into the US. Christians and Jews from muslim countries fleeing religious persecution shall receive preferential and accelerated immigration privileges.

5) Detain all border violators, taking photos, prints and DNA samples of said violator while at the same time, checking for out standing warrants. If no warrants are outstanding, return border violators to home country within 20 days via commercial airline and submit cost of such action, including processing and housing costs for said violator, to country of origin. If costs are not paid within 30 days, reduce any and all aid to said country by a like amount.

6) Should any country from which a border violator originates not currently receive any aid from the US, the Justice Department shall be authorized to seize or secure liens on assets owned, managed or registered to that country to the full extent of the obligation.

7) Establish new Guest Worker Visa (GWV) category, renewable every six (6) months, for unskilled labor positions wherein all applicants shall provide prints, photos and DNA samples. Work permitted of such applicants shall be limited to one of several categories, including childcare, lawn/gardening, restaurant staff, cleaning, and the like. Families of GWV workers are not permitted to enter US, nor will the birth of a child in the U.S. to one of GWV status confer citizenship to either parent or child.

8) Any violation of civil or criminal laws shall result in the forfeiture of the GWV and immediate return to originating country.

9) GWV holders shall be prohibited from claiming unemployment benefits, welfare support or free medical service.

10) The originating country of all GWV holders shall be responsible for any loss caused by their citizens, including emergency medical claims and claims resulting from illegal acts committed while in the US.

11) Companies that hire GWV holders shall submit to the Immigration Dept the name and GWV number of that individual, along with a description of employment tasks. Companies that fail to report employment of GWV workers, or hire border violators, shall be subject to fines and penalties. GWV workers shall not be subject to unemployment tax because they shall not be eligible to receive unemployment compensation. GWV workers shall be paid with check, having income tax withheld.

12) Border violators, or any non-citizen not possessing a valid visa, detained by local police for any reason shall be turned over to border control officials for immediate deportation action, except if they face criminal charges in other jurisdictions.

13) Border violators and GWV workers shall be prohibited from voting in local, state and federal elections.

14) Border Violators shall NOT be afforded the rights enjoyed by American citizens, as guaranteed under the constitution.

15) Public education (at institutions supported by taxpayer dollars) at any level (pre-school, kindergarten through the university level,) shall NOT be available to Border Violators (or children of Border Violators) and schools that enroll such individuals shall be subject to penalties.

16) Foreign Students (F/S) (individuals admitted to the U.S. for the purpose of attending any educational facility,) private institution or public (i.e. supported by taxpayer dollars,) must have valid student visas, such visas being in force only if the F/S attends school full-time. F/S shall be required to pay tuition, housing and related costs such that all their educational costs are fully reimbursed to the institution attended. The originating country shall pay for any and all loss caused by students while on U.S. soil.

17) Border Violators seeking emergency medical treatment shall provide pictures, fingerprints and DNA samples along with country of origin, and shall be treated then incarcerated until information provided can be verified. Originating country shall bear the costs of medical treatment and confinement.

18) Children born in the U.S. to border violators, illegal aliens or of foreign nationals in the U.S. for any reason (including temporary visitor, school or work visas,) shall not be eligible for citizenship as circumstances of birth, nor shall the parents or parent’s family members (relatives) be conferred U.S. citizenship as a result of such births.

31 posted on 05/07/2004 10:11:54 AM PDT by Imagine
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Yes, he came to Nashville last month to address Driver's License reform and ended up talking about about darn near everything related to the illegal immigration problem.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1118483/posts

32 posted on 05/07/2004 10:35:19 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Thank you for that link.
33 posted on 05/07/2004 10:38:23 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Embedded Freeper
"This guy is out on the streets because? Absurd. It is interesting that 3 of these terrorists live at the same address. And how fitting the street is named Jimmy Carter."

And even more interesting is why were they still here? These scumbags should have been deported ASAP after the first incident!

34 posted on 05/07/2004 12:01:27 PM PDT by Chi-Town Lady
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To: Embedded Freeper
My wife works a service job in Norcross where about half of the employees are Mexican. A number of times one of them has been turned in for violations at work by the other Mexicans, and she's been blames for narcing on them. One time a woman who'd been her "friend" got caught in an affair by her husband. She blamed my wife, when it was really her husband's relative who worked with her that narced her out.

She's always getting crapped on because she's white, and just the other night, one of the other workers told her the Mexicans were talking about her when she wasn't there, because she actually makes them work instead of sitting on their ass and letting everyone else do it. She has to close late at night a lot, and I've told her any number of times to have someone walk her to her truck because I grew up around them and know how a lot of them are. It wouldn't take much for one to get pissed off and jump her in the parking lot. She thinks I'm overreacting, but I'm not. I grew up in North Texas, and they get away with everything up to and beyond murder. I gotta say, it may sound like I'm prejudiced, but in reality, white people in a lot of Atlanta areas are now the hated race.

35 posted on 05/07/2004 12:04:11 PM PDT by TheLurkerX ("When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro..." Hunter S. Thompson)
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To: Embedded Freeper
"When will the politicians 'get it'"?

The politicians will never "get it." But we had better, before it's too late. Hispanic crime is rampant in the Chicago area. Their gangs are ruthless and depraved. And they are coming to your neighborhood. I saw it happen in Los Angeles (one of the reasons why I left there, and that was in the late 1970s; it was bad then, but is abominable now). These are VERY violent people, these hispanic gangbangers. Very, very viscious.
36 posted on 05/07/2004 12:52:27 PM PDT by ought-six
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To: fire_eye
"And - and this is the most important thing - with home invaders, the only thing that will save you and your family is instantaneous - and I mean INSTANTANEOUS - access to a loaded firearm."

That is a fact. Be armed, my friends, and be prepared. Chances are getting greater and greater by the day that your home will be a target of a home invasion.
37 posted on 05/07/2004 12:54:31 PM PDT by ought-six
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To: TheLurkerX
Hope LE in the states between the border and Georgia are cross checking their unsolved cases for these creeps.
38 posted on 05/07/2004 12:55:29 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Everyone needs to train, bone up on self defence and stock enough stuff for at least a month

At LEAST a month, and that ain't no joke about getting preped for hostile activites being directed at any or all of us....

THEY SAID IT, NOT ME.

I guess they just want to kill white people the lazy Americans are not willing to kill.

39 posted on 05/07/2004 4:43:37 PM PDT by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: ought-six
Chances are getting greater and greater by the day that your home will be a target of a home invasion.

In Los Angeles, a person has no choice but to be well armed and to know how to use the weapon. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot, and neither would my neighbors. That's the way it is here.

The politicians know it, but they ignore it. They're too busy kissing up to the Hispanic lobby.

40 posted on 05/08/2004 11:52:35 AM PDT by janetgreen (Wake Up, President Bush - California has been invaded!)
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To: janetgreen
"In Los Angeles, a person has no choice but to be well armed and to know how to use the weapon. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot, and neither would my neighbors. That's the way it is here. The politicians know it, but they ignore it. They're too busy kissing up to the Hispanic lobby."

I know all about Los Angeles (I was born and raised there, and left for good when I was 28, in the late 1970s; one of the reasons I left was because of the Mexican gangs, and the horrors they brought upon the general public). I now live some 30 miles west of Chicago, and I see the same thing happening here as what happened in Los Angeles. There is going to be a big backlash against the Mexican gangs, and it's coming soon.
41 posted on 05/10/2004 4:54:07 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the intelligent reply.
42 posted on 05/11/2004 9:42:22 PM PDT by Embedded Freeper
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To: Chi-Town Lady

That is the truth.

For some reason the terrorists (read lawbreaking "Immigrants") are given more rights than Americans.


43 posted on 05/21/2004 12:28:48 AM PDT by Embedded Freeper
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