LIVE THREAD: Rumsfeld Testifies Regarding Treatment of Iraqi Prisoners

http://freerepublic.com ^ | May 7, 2004

[daler]

Yes, I was being sarcastic, and I couldn't agree with you more.

[Humal]

"and she cowers, especially when H&C or other DEMS are on...."

I understand what you are saying. Use to, it would just be when Carvile, Helllery, and Bubba came on that my language would get "salty". Now, when Teddy, Robert KKK Byrd, Little Tommy Dashel, Boot's Pelosi, Rangle, Kerry, et.al. (this list is getting too long) my blood begins to boil before they ever open their mouths.

My vocabulary is limited on words to describe them or curses. I wonder if they make a thesaurus for cuss words or curses (i.e. "May the fleas of 1,000 camels infest your arm pits.") I think I may need one before the election season is over.

[GraniteStateConservative]

So Rumsfeld-- the Commander-in-Chief's point man on stuff like this-- can't be fully informed on stuff like this? That's garbage. If he really believes that, he should step down. I voted for Bush so he could make informed decisions and lead and he can't do that if everyone keeps secrets from him.

[GraniteStateConservative]

It is unacceptable for the Secretary of "War" to be kept out of the loop during a war. Bush and Rumsfeld should know everything about stuff like this when someone below them know about it. Someone should be fired for so poorly representing the best interests of Bush by making him look uninformed and out of the loop in his own administration.

[Major_Risktaker]

PISANO,
I salute you for your
courage and service in the military.

Always Stay On Guard!

[cyncooper]

First of all, I am a pretty straightforward poster and I checked what you were replying to and I don't know why you are replying in the manner you are as if I was offering a defense when I was giving plain and simple facts.

At any rate, I agree it is not good they were out of the loop.

The photos were being held by the criminal division as they processed the court martials. Rumsfeld was aware of the facts sans photos.

(Please don't go interpreting that as a defense, either.)

[cyncooper]

Exactly why I inserted my comment about Rumsfeld actually having *documentation*. Byrd has you-know-what (it stinks).

LOL

[thatcher]

 As they did during the The Clinton administration; his apologists have effectively colored the dialogue by drowning out the facts in a sea of spin, and they have even been able to change the dynamic of the facts to suit their own diabolical manifesto.

Military institutional policy.

Fact:

1. A young man who saw what was going on was able to report the problem immediately. The military took immediate action.
2. The idiots who were doing this were locked up, the crime was investigated and they are, as we speak on their way to trial.
3. These photos, that we have been seeing, are photos that were evidently stolen from the militaries evidence file to prosecute these cases.
4. There is no wrong doing on the part of the military here, only that of a few individual who were acting as individuals, not doing the military's work.
5. We can not hold other responsible for what another individual chooses to do; especially when the 'others' have done everything that they can do to stop the crime as soon as they knew about it. 
6. Blaming Rumsfeld, is like blaming a police chief for a crime happening in his precinct, after his officers have already picked up the criminal, have him sitting in jail awaiting trial.

When the Democrats fearless leader was caught red handed lying in a court of law, not only as the president of the United States of America, but as a lawyer, (for which he later lost his license to practice) he made the country go through a politicized impeachment process and still would not step down.  When clinton finally left office, he spent the last hours of that time pardoning criminals who had paid him off.

When we bring up example from the clinton administration to demonstrate the democrat's lack of sincerity; to show that they are care nothing about the principles involved; only about the opportunity to bring their hated enemy, ( the hated enemy is the one who does not think emotionally and opportunistically like them). they will say something like 'two wrongs do not make a right ~ nor do more wrongs make anything right. Ironically, President Clinton refused to admit that he committed crimes that he obviously committed (perjury and obstruction of justice).

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Iraqi Prisoner Details Abuse by Americans Washington Times ^ | 5/02/04 | AP

[ducks1944]

I was raised in Indiana and Bayh is not what he wants all to believe. His Dad was governor there and is just another Democrat. Don't believe what he say at all, he is liberal all the way. There was some kind of scandal about his Dad but can't recall what it was.

[SpinyNorman]

These photos, that we have been seeing, are photos that were evidently stolen from the militaries evidence file to prosecute these cases.

Is it conceivable that I am not the only one to think that each set of photos should be microscopically marked such that the source of a leak could be quickly and unmistakably identified and stopped?

[mathluv]

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