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Parents of Terri Schindler-Schiavo Told to Pay to See Their Daughter
The Terri Schindler Foundation ^
| May 7, 2004
| Terri Foundation
Posted on 05/07/2004 3:23:12 PM PDT by amdgmary
Parents of Terri Schindler-Schiavo Told to Pay to See Their Daughter
Clearwater, FL May 7, 2004: In yet another bizarre twist of the Terri Schindler-Schiavo case, the Schindler family was informed that they must now pay a fee for security each time that they want to visit their daughter.
On Wednesday, May 5, 2004, Deborah Bushnell of Dunedin, an attorney representing Michael Schiavo, faxed a letter to attorneys representing the parents of Terri Schindler-Schiavo.
In her communication, Ms. Bushnell recommended that Ms. Schiavo's parents could be permitted to visit their disabled daughter if they would agree to hire an off-duty police person to accompany them. This comes after attorney Patricia Anderson, who represents Ms. Schiavo's parents, filed a Writ of Quo Warranto, demanding that Mr. Schiavo demonstrate what authority he has to deny his wife visits from her immediate family. Should the Schindlers fail to pay, they would be denied visitation rights.
Ms. Schiavo currently has an off-duty police person, paid for by Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, assigned to her on a 24 hour a day basis. Additionally, the Schindlers have reported that, during their visits, nursing staff frequently enter their daughter's room.
Ms. Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, have not been permitted to visit her since March 29, 2004 (39 days), when attorney George Felos of Dunedin issued a press release stating that suspicious marks were found on her arm. A toxicology study conducted on Ms. Schiavo concluded that no unauthorized chemicals were found in her system. Ms. Schiavo's parents, along with her siblings, had attempted to visit her the following day at Park Place Assisted Living and were turned away by nursing staff in compliance with "Mr. Schiavo's orders".
Statement of Attorney Patricia Anderson:
By recommending that the financially-strapped Schindlers may only visit Terri if they pay yet another off-duty police person to accompany them, is an effort to inhibit them from freely seeing their own daughter. A couple of years ago, Michael Schiavo contacted Terri's parents and offered to give the balance of Terri's money over to charity. He and his attorneys used this a talking point for the media - claiming that Michael had no financial interest in Terri's death. What they neglected to mention was that that particular offer was predicated upon the Schindler's agreeing to Terri's dehydration and starvation death.
This latest tactic from Ms. Bushnell is really no different. I will not be surprised if Ms. Bushnell uses this as another talking point with the media in an attempt to make her and her client appear less cruel.
No mother should have to pay an admission fee to see her child on Mother's Day. Perhaps Ms. Bushnell has forgotten how most people spend Mother's Day."
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posted on
05/07/2004 3:23:13 PM PDT
by
amdgmary
To: amdgmary
There is a special place in hell for Michael Schiavo.
2
posted on
05/07/2004 3:25:45 PM PDT
by
Young Rhino
(http://www.artofdivorce.com)
To: amdgmary; nickcarraway; pc93; FL_engineer; cyn; FR_addict; windchime; Budge; Deo volente; ...
Ping
3
posted on
05/07/2004 3:26:41 PM PDT
by
amdgmary
To: amdgmary
Wait a sec. I thought they were the ones who weren't trying to kill her.
To: amdgmary
I find it interesting that the story refers to Terri as Ms. Schiavo, not Mrs. Any take on that?
5
posted on
05/07/2004 3:27:55 PM PDT
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: Young Rhino
There is a special place in hell for Michael Schiavo.
Oh, I sure do hope so.
6
posted on
05/07/2004 3:40:21 PM PDT
by
KangarooJacqui
(Hamas: Things that make you go "BANG"....)
To: amdgmary
Appalling! Can't the Church do something about this? I know the State has tried.
To: KangarooJacqui
There is a special place in hell for Michael Schiavo. he he, indeed,... any liberal, conservative or god out there (aside from useful idiots) in favor of cleaning his mess?
I did not think so. He'll have to clean his own mess in hell indeed.
8
posted on
05/07/2004 4:00:07 PM PDT
by
JudgemAll
Comment #9 Removed by Moderator
To: amdgmary
I have a much better idea for these POS lawyer scum - let's all help them find hell!
10
posted on
05/07/2004 4:34:49 PM PDT
by
steplock
(http://www.gohotsprings.com)
To: amdgmary
Michael Schiavo. This boy should feel good about himself. Seems to me he is on a mission to terminate his comatose wife, why? I also find it hard to understand attorneys but then they are rather sleezy and self important jerks. The Judge's involved must have a movie contract. It truly is a shame for all involved, so many questions.
11
posted on
05/07/2004 4:47:01 PM PDT
by
JamesA
( The more you try to change my convictions the more resolved I am to keep them.)
To: JamesA
I don't know about a movie, but rumor is the attorney has written a book. Just waiting for the ending I suppose. The attorney has already written a book about another dead client.
To: cyn
ping
To: amdgmary
14
posted on
05/07/2004 5:16:30 PM PDT
by
pc93
To: pickyourpoison; JamesA
Ah, yes, Georgie Boy's book.
This is from the Fed Complaint of 8/30/03 - the section on George Felos, referring to excerpts from his Book "Litigation as Spiritual Practice":
On Page 63, referring to his landmark Florida state court case, Estate of Browning, Felos writes: "Such a deep, dark silent blue. I stared as far into her eyes as I could, hoping to sense some glimmer of understanding, some hint of awareness. The deeper I dove, the darker became the blue, until the blue became the black of some bottomless lake. "Mrs. Browning, do you want to die? Do you want to die?" - I near shouted as I continued to peer into her pools of strikingly beautiful but incognizant blue. It felt so eerie."
On page 73, Attorney Felos writes: "As I continued to stay beside Mrs. Browning at her nursing home bed, I felt my mind relax and my weight sink into the ground. I began to feel light-headed as I became more reposed. Although feeling like I could drift into sleep, I also experienced a sense of heightened awareness. As Mrs. Browning lay motionless before my gaze, I suddenly heard a loud, deep moan and scream and wondered if the nursing home personnel heard it...In the next moment, as this cry of pain and torment continued, I realized it was Mrs. Browning. I felt the mid-section of my body open and noticed a strange quality to the light in the room. I sensed her soul in agony. As she screamed I heard her say, in confusion, "Why am I still here...why am I here?" My soul touched hers and in some way I communicated that she was still locked to her body. I promised I would do everything in my power to gain the release her soul cried for. With that the screaming immediately stopped. I felt like I was back in my head again."
On page 75, Felos says, "Before our son was conceived, my then wife and I went through a long and arduous process trying to decide if we should have a child. Given that our marriage was never stable, the familiar arguments against creating progeny seemed at times hard to overcome...One morning while still generally engaged in that process, I walked into my office, and about half way to my desk was hammerstruck. While almost seeing stars like a comic book character, I heard the soul of my yet-to-be-conceived child emphatically shout: I'm ready to be born...will you stop this fooling around?"...The voice I heard was distinctly male, and I beamed with the idea I had a son - or was going to have a son - or sorta had a son out there - or something like that."
On page 216, again discussing Estate of Browning, Mr. Felos writes about the late Estelle M. Browning: "As I always did, I looked into her eyes and shouted to her, hoping for some response or sign. After a minute or two I sat in the chair by the foot of her bed, closed my eyes, and started to meditate. having "soulspoken" with Mrs. Browning when we first met, I decided with a measure of earnest self-inflation, to purposefully initiate such contact. I settled into my breathing and noticed all the passing sounds move through my consciousness. As I deepened my relaxation, I reached out with my awareness to see if I could touch her soul-presence. From deep inside I repeated, "Mrs. Browning, it's okay to leave your body. There is no reason to stay in this body. It is all right to die now." A few minutes into my meditative encouragement, I was jarred by a high-pitched sarcastic cackle and the words "You're telling me to drop my body - and you can't even get out of your head." Apparently, Mrs. Browning had a spirited sense of humor!"
On pages 181-182 of his book, Felos claims that merely by visualizing a plane crash during a flight he was taking back to Florida, he caused the plan to begin to crash and that God spoke to him at that moment to warn him: "Be careful what you think. You are more powerful than you realize"...I was startled, humbled and blessed by God's admonishment".
I wonder if he has ever "soulspoken" with Terri? Hmmmm...
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posted on
05/07/2004 5:34:07 PM PDT
by
iowamomforfreedom
(The right to die? or the right to be killed - http://www.life-or-death-decisions.org)
To: iowamomforfreedom
He sounds like a whacko!!!!!
Surely he doesn't believe God spoke to him and approves of his behavior.
To: amdgmary
Just shaking my head. No words:'(
To: amdgmary; russesjunjee; GWB and GOP Man; JulieRNR21; cyn; FL_engineer; pc93; Ohioan from Florida; ..
Unbelievable. HOW LOW CAN THEY GO?
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:04:15 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(www.conservative-spirit.org VISIT MY TERRI'S FIGHT PAGE.. the basics)
To: pickyourpoison
I am convinced that George Felos is a demon from the pit of hell. And he is going to take quite a few people "home" with him. Deborah Bushnell, along with the usual suspects.
I no longer think we are dealing with actual humans here.
Terri and the Schindlers are up against a powerful and evil entity, and I pray for them (and for all of us) every day.
GOD is still in charge.
To: JamesA
She's not comatose. Blame the media for continually misreporting Terri's true condition.
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:16:41 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(www.conservative-spirit.org VISIT MY TERRI'S FIGHT PAGE.. the basics)
To: MagnoliaMS
They are from the pit of hell. That's why we are constantly asking everyone to sign up and help.
fight4terri@aol.com (sign up to help) or visit www.terrisfight.org.
PURE EVIL. JUDGES, LAWYERS, HINO, HINO'S FIANCE, HOSPICE OF THE SUNCOAST, PINELLAS, SEN. PREZ JIM KING (Hospice Hall of Famer). And there's more but even typing their names makes me sick.
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:21:45 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(www.conservative-spirit.org VISIT MY TERRI'S FIGHT PAGE.. the basics)
To: DuncanWaring
Bushnell looks like the wicked witch who takes Dorothy's dog on her bicycle before the tornado.
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:24:05 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(www.conservative-spirit.org VISIT MY TERRI'S FIGHT PAGE.. the basics)
To: CindyDawg
No words but now TERRI'S LIKE THE ELEPHANT MAN because they are charging admission to see her. THEY ARE ANIMALS.
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:27:51 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(www.conservative-spirit.org VISIT MY TERRI'S FIGHT PAGE.. the basics)
To: amdgmary
This is another CRUEL, EVIL FRIDAY SURPRISE. Does Monsignor Malonowski have to pay to minister to Terri? This kind of throws freedom of religion out the window...
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:30:06 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(www.conservative-spirit.org VISIT MY TERRI'S FIGHT PAGE.. the basics)
To: amdgmary
Just when you think, "Nothing would surprise me, and these Satan followers (MS and DB) surprise us." Here's a bit of my efforts to help Terri today. Please don't be shy about emailing this editor, yourself. God bless those that do their best to help Terri!
----- Original Message -----
From: Julie Smithson
To:
dyckman@sptimes.com Sent: 5/7/2004 8:17:59 PM
Subject: Re: Theresa Marie "Terri" Schindler Schiavo
dyckman@sptimes.com Mr. Dyckman:
I write to you from Ohio, as one who knows several people that have been on feeding tubes for various reasons, from having had facial injuries in a car accident to having had a minor stroke.
A feeding tube is not by any means a 'heroic measure' to prolong life. In Terri's case, she has been able to be spoon fed. She has -- for all these years -- been able to maintain her own blood pressure. She swallows. She does not drool.
You surely know all these things, Mr. Dyckman. Why, then, do you and your paper continue to 'vilify' those that love Terri and seek her safety and rehabilitation -- and continue to paint a violent and pro-euthanasia, proven unfaithful 'husband' as the 'good guy'?
You SURELY know that Michael wants Terri quiet, forever, only because he knows that she knows what happened that night. He is terrified that somehow she'll talk and tell the truth about that night in early 1990.
There but for the grace of God could be anyone that did not do as few do and make SPECIFIC WRITTEN DIRECTIVES for such an unforeseen 'event' as what happened to Terri in February 1990. This entire charade has been Michael Schiavo's fight to keep the ONE PERSON that might tell the truth about what happened that night, from ever being able to tell it.
Terri does not HAVE a REAL Husband; she has an unfaithful, violent and anything BUT 'loving' one -- one that should have been removed as her guardian due to VERY REAL SAFETY CONCERNS for Terri, YEARS AGO, concerns that are STILL VALID AND ONGOING TODAY. That, Martin, is a fact, whether you or your paper or the AP ever tell the truth and report it or not.
You need only visit:
http://www.sweetliberty.org//bulletins/terri/index.shtml http://www.sweetliberty.org/bulletins/terri/hospice_collusion.htm http://www.wilkesmchugh.com/schiavo http://www.cogforlife.org/schiavo.htm http://www.LifeNews.com http://www.PropertyRightsResearch.org/articles4/TerriFrms.htm http://heavenlyhands.net/terrislinks.html http://libertytothecaptives.net/terri_schiavo_cognitively_able.html http://www.frtl.org http://www.TerrisFight.org Search
http://www.Google.com and get:
Results 1 - 10 of about 36,900 for "Terri Schiavo".
Search
http://news.google.com and get:
Results 1 - 10 of about 735 for Terri-Schiavo.
Visit
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35305 and read a vast array of articles that prove the SPTimes and its 'reporting' to be in error, regarding Terri, far more often than it is accurate.
As you know, Terri had an unfaithful 'husband' and one with a volatile temperament. Her original injuries were sustained when she was alone with him and were likely at his hands.
'Strangulation' certainly does not sound like the action of a loving husband.
Neither does failing to mention any wishes of Terri's until AFTER Mister Schiavo had been awarded the court judgements for his own 'loss of companionship' and for Terri's care.
No matter what your feelings or mine are on other matters, I believe in honest reporting.
Continuing to refer to Terri as being in a 'persistant vegetative state,' 'PVS' or 'coma' -- when she is NONE of these, but is, rather, profoundly brain-damaged -- is dishonest reporting.
Continuing to refer to a lascivious and adulterous 'man' with a formidable temper as Terri's 'husband' -- when he has proved by his living arrangements with Jodi Centonze and the TWO children he has sired out of wedlock with his concubine -- is dishonest and misleading reporting.
Continuing the openly biased reporting that paints Michael Schiavo as a 'loving husband' is FALSE reporting.
FAILING to report that Terri is being held hostage -- and has been held hostage for over THREE YEARS -- in a hospice, when she is not terminally ill, is FALSE reporting.
The FACT that Michael's live-in lover's mother was deemed fit to guard Terri to keep her own REAL FAMILY away during one of the times he and his cohorts sought to starve Terri to death is CRIMINALLY CRUEL, sir.
It is illegal to treat a dog or cat the way that Terri is being 'treated' -- or NOT treated. She has recently had FIVE TEETH REMOVED. This is directly due to the FAILURE of Michael Schiavo -- the 'loving husband' -- to provide any LOVING and REHABILITATIVE CARE WHATSOEVER for Terri.
Has the Saint Petersburg Times reporting and editorial staff followed Alice through the looking-glass?
One would certainly think so.
Julie Kay Smithson
London, Ohio
propertyrights@earthlink.net ----- Original Message -----
From:
Dyckman@sptimes.com To: (name redacted)
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: Terri Schiavo Coverage
Dear (name redacted):
I empathize with your situation. You have made the choices that are right
for you. That is all that Mr. Schiavo wanted for himself and his wife until
the governor and legislature intervened in violation of the Florida
Constitution.
However, I must tell you that as a person who knows the names of distant kin
murdered by the Nazis, I am insulted whenever anyone attempts to equate the
issue of Ms. Schiavo being allowed to die a natural death with the
deliberate genocide they practiced.
No reply is necessary.
Martin Dyckman
Associate editor and columnist
St. Petersburg Times
336 East College Avenue
Tallahassee, FL 32301
850-224-6394
______________________________________________________________________
THIS IS THE LETTER SENT TO MR. DYCKMAN FROM A FIGHT4TERRI ACTION GROUP VOLUNTEER REQUESTING FAIR AND EQUAL COVERAGE OF TERRI.
I am writing to you to express my disappointment with the manner in which
your newspaper covers Terry Schiavo. As a mother of a child who would be
described as being in a persistent vegetative state and is also fed by
feeding tube, I am fully aware of the needs a person like Terry has.
I think it would be a good idea for your paper to educate its readers on
exactly what caring for someone diagnosed as PVS is like. From your
reportage PVS could be misconstrued by your readers to be a coma-like state,
when in fact nothing could be further from the truth, and particularly in
Terri's case. Perhaps you could interview parents of a child with PVS to
learn exactly what kind of quality of life such a child has. I would be
happy to be interviewed for such a story.
In my case, my child who is 8 would be described as being in a PVS. She was
vaccine-damaged at the age of 4 months and her development was arrested.
She lost her swallowing reflex and has been unable to eat adequate amounts
of solids and so is dependant upon a feeding tube for her nourishment. The
past 8 years have been the most intense I have ever experienced; filled with
joy, laughter and sadness. The idea that a judge could decide whether my
child live or die is just abhorrent to me. My daughters contribution to her
family, friends and neighbours, in terms of the love and happiness she
brings could never be measured and is priceless.
Like Terri, my child does not communicate verbally, but there is an unspoken
communication between us, it is usually easy to determine what she needs or
why she might be unhappy. Likewise, it is very easy to know exactly what
makes her happy. With therapy my daughters condition has improved and I
believe that anything is possible with the right care and attention.
Reading Terri's parents testimony to her present condition, one gets the
impression that Terri is a very upbeat woman who is cognitive and
responsive. I find it incredibly cruel that her life could be used in the
way that it is being done so in the state of Florida to encroach on the
sanctity of life. It is ironic that we try to preserve the rights of unborn
embryos and yet in the case of Terri, we encourage the practise of
euthanasia. Is this because her life has no utilitarian function deemed
worthy of preserving? And who is entitled to make that decision?
It reminds me of the nazi euthanasia programme that saw the disabled killed
because they were not considered useful to society, this was accepted by
German society at the time. Unfortunately, this notion of utility did not
stop with the disabled but over time grew to include able-bodied humans that
society felt were of no value; the chronically sick and elderly, those
considered parasites, political dissidents and finally culminating in the
holocaust in which millions of jews were incinerated. The holocaust could
never have occurred without first convincing society that it was
compassionate to kill the disabled because they had no "quality of life".
Admittedly, caring for Terri is going to be expensive, Terri's parents are
fully aware of this but they love their child dearly and are battling to
protect her from harm because she is very precious to them. If we are
prepared to commit euthanasia despite the wishes of her parents, where
precisely do we draw the line and say, this life is worth preserving and
that one is not?
It is really important that your paper address these issues. Your readers
need to understand that Terri does feel. Removing Terri's feeding tube and
allowing her to starve to death, when she is in such a vulnerable state, is
the cruelest idea imaginable. It has been suggested that she is incapable
of feeling and yet she is clearly delighted by the presence of her parents
when they visit her in hospital. Michael Schiavo says that removing her
feeding tube would allow Terri to die with dignity. However, starving to
death would cause her enormous pain, physically and emotionally.
It is said that a society can be judged by how it treats its weakest
members. Allowing Terri to die in this way would not reflect well on the
state of Florida. I have always found that a good rule of thumb is "what if
the shoe were on the other foot". It has been claimed by Michael Schiavo
that Terri would wish for the "plug to be pulled". Is it not strange that
she would never have expressed this opinion to her parents and best friends?
I really do not think that removing Terri's feeding tube is a line that we
who are presently able-bodied, should be ready to cross.
Please endeavour to show the human side of the plight of Terri and her
parents. It is extremely sad and troubling that some 60 years after the
holocaust that we are ready to embark once more with a euthanasia programme
on the very same platform that was used by the nazis - i.e. compassion - and
when we know so well the experiment ended in the gas chambers.
I look forward to seeing more positive and humane coverage of Terri in the
future.
Yours sincerely
(name redacted)
To: amdgmary
I bet they'd be able to find off-duty police officers who would offer to do it for free. They should contact the local police department and ask for volunteers.
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posted on
05/07/2004 6:52:41 PM PDT
by
mass55th
To: floriduh voter; russesjunjee; GWB and GOP Man
Ping. Get your popcorn, peanuts, see the girl in the cage, step right up.
27
posted on
05/07/2004 6:57:58 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(www.conservative-spirit.org VISIT MY TERRI'S FIGHT PAGE.. the basics)
To: PropertyRightsResearch.org
Thanks from imcatinhat50... floriduh voter
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posted on
05/07/2004 7:00:55 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(www.conservative-spirit.org VISIT MY TERRI'S FIGHT PAGE.. the basics)
To: amdgmary
Michael Putz Schiavo A CNN article from October last year says that Michael Putz Schiavo "has a girlfriend with whom he has a child". Yes, his love for his wife is lasting and true.
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posted on
05/07/2004 7:13:17 PM PDT
by
O.C. - Old Cracker
(When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
To: amdgmary
When asked why he doesn't just divorce his wife or turn over her care to her parents, Michael Putz Schiavo said he couldn't. "This is Terri's wish, this is Terri's choice," he said. "And I'm going to follow that wish if it's the last thing I can do for Terri."
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/10/28/schiavo.lkl/
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posted on
05/07/2004 7:21:14 PM PDT
by
O.C. - Old Cracker
(When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
To: amdgmary
TWO YEARS AGO:
Statement of Attorney Patricia Anderson:
By recommending that the financially-strapped Schindlers may only visit Terri if they pay yet another off-duty police person to accompany them, is an effort to inhibit them from freely seeing their own daughter.
A couple of years ago, Michael Schiavo contacted Terri's parents and offered to give the balance of Terri's money over to charity. He and his attorneys used this a talking point for the media - claiming that Michael had no financial interest in Terri's death.
What they neglected to mention was that that particular offer was predicated upon the Schindler's agreeing to Terri's dehydration and starvation death.
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posted on
05/07/2004 7:24:39 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(www.conservative-spirit.org VISIT MY TERRI'S FIGHT PAGE.. the basics)
To: floriduh voter
Doesn't this smell to high heaven? If you were trying to cover up a botched murder attempt, wouldn't this be one way to try and clean it up? Get the state to finish her off for you?
32
posted on
05/07/2004 7:27:51 PM PDT
by
O.C. - Old Cracker
(When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
To: O.C. - Old Cracker
WE NEED COLUMBO to come here and say "there's just one more thing that's bothering me..." This is sooooooo bad I can't believe they are getting away with it thus far.
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posted on
05/07/2004 7:29:22 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(www.conservative-spirit.org VISIT MY TERRI'S FIGHT PAGE.. the basics)
To: amdgmary; phenn
BREAKING... Someone saw Greer's donation list on lie. BUSHNELL gave to Greer's campaign. That's all I have.
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posted on
05/07/2004 7:34:02 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(www.conservative-spirit.org VISIT MY TERRI'S FIGHT PAGE.. the basics)
To: O.C. - Old Cracker
one of the main reasons Jeb was pushed to check out the story on this case is that evidence was not admitted in the hearing to give the husband authority to end Terry's life support. The evidence was supposedly Cat scan reports revealing healed fractures - possibly due to abuse. She was a young beautiful woman that keeled over - the hint was that in dieting she had a heart attack- she did not appear anorexic- and the couple didn't always get along.Being only in her 20's it was doubtful she and her husband had any meaningful talks about living wills etc ,He is the Scott Peterson of Florida. He won't divorce her because then he forfeits the money honey.
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posted on
05/07/2004 7:50:01 PM PDT
by
newzhawk
To: floriduh voter
I am writing to Greer again as soon as confirmed! That is astounding news!FV-these people are so SICK!!!! SICK SICK SICK!!!!!!!!
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posted on
05/07/2004 7:55:44 PM PDT
by
Republic
To: floriduh voter
....
Does Monsignor Malonowski have to pay to minister to Terri? This kind of throws freedom of religion out the window...This needs to be tomorrow's headline down there! The Catholics in your community should be up in arms already, considering the Pope's statements on withdrawal of food.
IMAGINE.....a PRIEST HAVING TO HIRE A BODY GUARD.
What right does MS have to deny Terri the comfort of a priest? WHAT RIGHT??? Is Pat asking this question? It is hot. And bound to raise alarm in the hearts of people.
MS must have remembered late in the game that Terri did not like being Catholic along with her wish to die if in need of help.
Ahhhhh...I forgot for a moment, MS's concubine wants to be married in a Catholic Church...right after her future husband starves his wife to death. And don't you know that a divorce is not an option for MS , in the Catholic Church, a divorced future spouse requires a annullment before marrying in the church.....something MS and his whore just don't have time to wait around for.
Terri's death is just so much more convenient...for everyone who wants her starved to death.
In this nation we used to ask WHO BENEFITS?
I guess Greer is thinking about Bushnell contributions and that good ol relationship between himself, and Felos and the Suncoast Hospice.
My guess is that the Hospice Org is running away from Terri. My calls to the htq there have been met with unsuccessful attempts (on their part) to withhold anger. Something stinks, FV. I really WANT to know if the Hospice Terri was in is completely shut down for rennovations- or if some clients still reside there. Something smells, alright.
Perhaps Terri has been kept away from her parents and others who love her because they did attempt something vicious (like her tooth situation) and wanted it to die down before visitations were allowed, or wanted Terri to get to the place where the Schindlers would not recognize that something dreadful happened to her, or perhaps, Felos and MS have been trying to break her spirit by screaming and or talking to her, abusively, and hoped she would die before anyone could see her.
May God keep warrior angels around this precious fighter. Never have I known of someone with more strength and will to live, considering the hell she and been through and the length of time she has endured MS's cruelness, than Terri.
37
posted on
05/07/2004 8:08:28 PM PDT
by
Republic
To: Republic
It is being renovated and she's at Park Place Assisted Living BUT THEY ARE NOT ASSISTING HER. HOSPICE STILL HAS COMPLETE CONTROL OVER TERRI'S PERSON and have sole access to her medical information. Under the guise of privacy rights, NOT THE GOVERNOR, NOT THE FAMILY, NOT ANYONE KNOWS TERRI'S TRUE CONDITION.
IN MY DREAM WORLD, Everyone at Free Republic who sees what a travesty of justice this is should take a half an hour and pick which calls or emails they'd like to do.
A half an hour ONE TIME would really help us with a major push for Terri and her family.
38
posted on
05/07/2004 8:16:16 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(www.conservative-spirit.org VISIT MY TERRI'S FIGHT PAGE.. the basics)
To: floriduh voter
Who is paying for Hospice? Is it public information? And how does Terri qualify for Hospice which very foundation states it cares for terminally ill individuals with six months or less to live? Do they not want Terri's medical records released because they know she does not qualify? Is Terri in Hospice at the request of Felos (ewwwwwwwww...imagine the thrill for him of being in a Hospice environment...so many souls to communicate with...so many dying...oh, the thrill of it all )...and to think...didn't ol Georgie the death monger once sit on the board of Florida Hospice board himself?
The same org that gave some kind of award to Florida's psycho senate leader? Man...this is some incestuous group. Wonder if Bushnell, Ms's other attn really DID contribute to Greer, and wonder if the HOSPICE ORGANIZATION contributed to King's?
39
posted on
05/07/2004 8:22:37 PM PDT
by
Republic
To: amdgmary; floriduh voter; phenn; cyn; FreepinforTerri; kimmie7; Pegita; windchime; tutstar; ...
Pinging my Terri list to this thread! If you would like to be on/off my ping list for Terri, please let me know.
40
posted on
05/07/2004 8:30:31 PM PDT
by
Ohioan from Florida
(The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
To: Republic
MEDICAID PAYS FOR HOSPICE. They used some legal loophole to make her Medicaid eligible in addition using her rehab monies to pay atty felos to KILL HER.
Terri is indigent, needs therapy and is alone but for a rent-a-cop, a hospice attendant and HINO. If a doctor sees her, it will be a doctor who is chosen by husband who is Greek like Felos and is probably chomping at the bit to pull the feeding tube. IMAGINE TAKING PART IN THE KILLING AN INNOCENT WOMAN. IT MAKES ME CRINGE THAT THE JUDGES ARE AWFULLY EAGER TO IMPOSE A DEATH SENTENCE ON TERRI, THREE TIMES THUS FAR.
41
posted on
05/07/2004 8:31:33 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(www.conservative-spirit.org VISIT MY TERRI'S FIGHT PAGE.. the basics)
To: Republic
From what I understand, Republic, Senate President King is on the Board of Hospice ...
42
posted on
05/07/2004 8:33:01 PM PDT
by
Pegita
('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
To: JamesA
If you're shocked by what you've learned so far, you won't believe the rest of the story. The best place to start is
http://www.terrisfight.org/. They back everything up with legal documents, so you know Terri's otherwise unbelievable story is really true. Then search the keyword Terri on FReeRepublic to read some of the threads. Most of the media have lied about key points, and left out important facts. Terri is not in a coma. She is not in a Persistent Vegetative State (PVS). She's much healthier than most people realize. The situation is much worse than most people know. I hope you'll look into this further. If you do, you won't be able to look away. Welcome aboard.
43
posted on
05/07/2004 8:40:24 PM PDT
by
BykrBayb
(5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
To: Pegita
Thanks-do you know if it is a 'paid' position or if not, what benefits come with being on the Suncoast Board (aside from fellowship with once upon time board members like Felos and, I believe but am not sure here, Greer)?
44
posted on
05/07/2004 8:40:51 PM PDT
by
Republic
To: floriduh voter; All
IS it legal for a campaign contributor to plead a case before a Judge that is the beneficiary of said contribution? Doesn't that smack of the possibility of quid pro quo? And in a life and death issue, isn't it crucial that a judge be impartial as all get out? ( I know-it should always be this way...but man...Pinellas County is one creepy, incestuous bed of thriving corruption when it comes to laying out rulings).
45
posted on
05/07/2004 8:44:50 PM PDT
by
Republic
To: PropertyRightsResearch.org
46
posted on
05/07/2004 8:51:46 PM PDT
by
BykrBayb
(5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
To: Republic; pc93
Make a note re: the quid pro quo. Someone just sent me a link for Florida Bar Complaints. I am too tired tonight to check it out. Ping me sometime this weekend. I'll see if we can find out.
Juan, a Terri supporter who shall remain anonymous looked up on the Fla Campaign Web site and noted that Debra Bushnell donated to Judge Greer's Campaign.
We are wondering if it's legal for an attorney in a pending case to contribute to the campaign of the Judge that is ruling in favor of said attorney. I have no problem discussing this in the open because the campaign donor lists are public information. ANY CAMPAIGN LAWS BEING VIOLATED BY GEORGE GREER?
47
posted on
05/07/2004 8:55:41 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(www.conservative-spirit.org VISIT MY TERRI'S FIGHT PAGE.. the basics)
To: amdgmary
When you think they've been as cruel as they can be.....
48
posted on
05/07/2004 8:57:21 PM PDT
by
windchime
(Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
To: floriduh voter
Get your popcorn, peanuts, see the girl in the cage, step right up. That's just sick! And unfortunately an accurate depiction of this whole twisted scenario. How much lower can they go?
49
posted on
05/07/2004 9:05:21 PM PDT
by
BykrBayb
(5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
To: amdgmary
Michael Schiavo contacted Terri's parents and offered to give the balance of Terri's money over to charity. What do you want to bet the charity he was going to give the money to would be the Hospice?
50
posted on
05/07/2004 11:16:48 PM PDT
by
trussell
(Member: Viking Kitty Society; Member: Troll Patrol; Member: Insider Fraud watch...)
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