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Parents of Terri Schindler-Schiavo Told to Pay to See Their Daughter
The Terri Schindler Foundation ^ | May 7, 2004 | Terri Foundation

Posted on 05/07/2004 3:23:12 PM PDT by amdgmary

Parents of Terri Schindler-Schiavo Told to Pay to See Their Daughter

Clearwater, FL May 7, 2004: In yet another bizarre twist of the Terri Schindler-Schiavo case, the Schindler family was informed that they must now pay a fee for “security” each time that they want to visit their daughter.

On Wednesday, May 5, 2004, Deborah Bushnell of Dunedin, an attorney representing Michael Schiavo, faxed a letter to attorneys representing the parents of Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

In her communication, Ms. Bushnell recommended that Ms. Schiavo's parents could be permitted to visit their disabled daughter if they would agree to hire an off-duty police person to accompany them. This comes after attorney Patricia Anderson, who represents Ms. Schiavo's parents, filed a Writ of Quo Warranto, demanding that Mr. Schiavo demonstrate what authority he has to deny his wife visits from her immediate family. Should the Schindlers fail to pay, they would be denied visitation rights.

Ms. Schiavo currently has an off-duty police person, paid for by Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, assigned to her on a 24 hour a day basis. Additionally, the Schindlers have reported that, during their visits, nursing staff frequently enter their daughter's room.

Ms. Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, have not been permitted to visit her since March 29, 2004 (39 days), when attorney George Felos of Dunedin issued a press release stating that suspicious marks were found on her arm. A toxicology study conducted on Ms. Schiavo concluded that no unauthorized chemicals were found in her system. Ms. Schiavo's parents, along with her siblings, had attempted to visit her the following day at Park Place Assisted Living and were turned away by nursing staff in compliance with "Mr. Schiavo's orders".

Statement of Attorney Patricia Anderson:

By recommending that the financially-strapped Schindlers may only visit Terri if they pay yet another off-duty police person to accompany them, is an effort to inhibit them from freely seeing their own daughter. A couple of years ago, Michael Schiavo contacted Terri's parents and offered to give the balance of Terri's money over to charity. He and his attorneys used this a talking point for the media - claiming that Michael had no financial interest in Terri's death. What they neglected to mention was that that particular offer was predicated upon the Schindler's agreeing to Terri's dehydration and starvation death.

This latest tactic from Ms. Bushnell is really no different. I will not be surprised if Ms. Bushnell uses this as another talking point with the media in an attempt to make her and her client appear less cruel.

No mother should have to pay an admission fee to see her child on Mother's Day. Perhaps Ms. Bushnell has forgotten how most people spend Mother's Day."


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To: floriduh voter
Is there a realistic possibility that one of the two opponents to George W. Greer could unseat him? I fear that Greer will win simply because he has the needed name ID by gullible and ignorant voters.
301 posted on 05/09/2004 7:53:35 AM PDT by Theodore R. (When will they ever learn?)
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To: supercat
Michael isn't merely making the choice not to give Terri food and water himself, though; rather, he's seeking to prevent anyone else from providing it.

Perhaps he really believes that Terri wanted to die if she should have gotten into this state. I think I might want to also, were I in her place.

302 posted on 05/09/2004 7:55:24 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: yesnettv
Have you considered a brain transplant from a human being? No, I haven't. If that is possible, then it should be tried. Who would be the donnor?

303 posted on 05/09/2004 7:57:31 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
you keep asking the same ignorant questions repeatedly, and this one has been answered at least twice.

TERRI'S PARENTS HAVE STATED THEY WILL ACCEPT FULL CUSTODY AT ANY TIME.
304 posted on 05/09/2004 8:01:12 AM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: amdgmary
What the hay?!? I can NOT believe this. If this doesn't prove what an arse MS and Felso and the FL courts are.... words fail me....
305 posted on 05/09/2004 8:01:52 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: phenn
Under the Florida Statutes, he has no rights, only responsibilities to his ward.

So, it is your position that the judge in this case just hates Terri and wants to kill her, in spite of what the law says?

BTW, under our system of law, responsibilities alway confer rights and vice versa. To have responsibilities without rights is slavery.

306 posted on 05/09/2004 8:02:03 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: floriduh voter; All
I vote we stop all discussion with this troll.

He is clueless about the facts, he keeps contradicting himself, he changes his arguments....

He is also

307 posted on 05/09/2004 8:03:23 AM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: JamesA
Seems to me he is on a mission to terminate his comatose wife, why?

I'm sure most of the $$$ is gone by now and is earmarked for his car payments so it's not about money. It's about his evilness to control Terri and her parents. It's all about power and control.

308 posted on 05/09/2004 8:04:27 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: phenn
I SAW AND HEARD FELOS WITH MY OWN EYES say that "Terri's feeding tube wouldn't be removed until after all of the appeals are done.

Either Fox 13 or Bay News 9. IS FELOS PERJURYING HIMSELF??? There is tape of him saying the tube would not be removed.

309 posted on 05/09/2004 8:05:00 AM PDT by floriduh voter (If You are a Troll, You Are Only Hurting Yourself... www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Politicalmom
may be tracking us too.
310 posted on 05/09/2004 8:06:16 AM PDT by floriduh voter (If You are a Troll, You Are Only Hurting Yourself... www.terrisfight.org)
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To: William Terrell
Do not project your personal wishes and desires on to others. The law is very clear in that there must be clear and convincing evidence that the ward would, themselves, refuse medical treatment before medical treatment can be taken away. Food and water was not medical treatment when Terri made her alleged wishes known to Michael. It wasn't even considered medical treatment in 1998 when Michael petitioned the courts to remove it from her.

Hearsay does not meet the legal test of clear and convincing. Moreover, unless Terri specifically said "Michael, don't you ever put me on a feeding tube", there is no informed consent from her in removing her feeding tube.

The judge in this case, George Greer, has stepped all over the laws and the statutes in order to accommodate his pet petitioner, Michael Schiavo.

It is illegal to withhold basic and humane care from a disabled or vulnerable person. That is a fact. Unless Terri specified what she would or would not want in a case of incapacitation (not imminent death), there is no evidence of her wishes that is either clear or convincing.

You, however, have just made your advanced directive known to the world. I hope you aren't ever in a position where you would change your mind. Sometimes, people do.
311 posted on 05/09/2004 8:06:33 AM PDT by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
That should tell you something.

It tells me that the body, autonomic functions driven by medulla oblongata, is amazingly resilient. But we already know that.

You have no idea what Terri wants. The closest you may come is what you want.

312 posted on 05/09/2004 8:07:24 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
Wrong again. Read the statute. There is no expressed rights given to a guardian. Only responsibilities to the ward.

The ward, however, has retained rights - those which cannot be taken away by the guardian or the courts. Amongst those retained rights are the rights to receive basic humane care, restoration to capacity, treatment of infection, due process and legal representation. All of the above have been denied by this judge and the guardian.

Do I think he hates Terri Schiavo? No. I think he hates women. Why else would he deny (on a hypertechnicality) an abused woman a protective order against her husband. That particular abused woman's corpse was found two weeks later.

http://www.sptimes.com/TampaBay/120498/Never_allow_domestic_.html
313 posted on 05/09/2004 8:10:45 AM PDT by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Politicalmom
TERRI'S PARENTS HAVE STATED THEY WILL ACCEPT FULL CUSTODY AT ANY TIME.

AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE? And, maybe Mr. Shiavo is telling the truth about Terri saying she would want to die.

314 posted on 05/09/2004 8:10:48 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: floriduh voter
It's not really perjury since he wasn't under oath. But, it is a problem for him with regards to friendly types in the media.
315 posted on 05/09/2004 8:11:32 AM PDT by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: phenn
So, the judge loves Michael and hates Terri? And is anxious to ignore the law to do so?

316 posted on 05/09/2004 8:13:06 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: amdgmary; 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; ...
ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

317 posted on 05/09/2004 8:15:27 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Terri Schiavo deserves to have her wishes followed--Grant her a divorce.)
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To: phenn
Under our law, responsibilites without rights, whether statutory or inalienable, is slavery. If the rights are not written specifically, they must be assumed.


318 posted on 05/09/2004 8:16:05 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
Explain why he has allowed years of violations against Terri and why he does not enforced the state MANDATED guardian plans?
319 posted on 05/09/2004 8:16:50 AM PDT by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: William Terrell
You're assuming rights where none are written? That is a pretty broad interpretation. Perhaps with my responsibilities to insure my car, I also have the right to drive it across my neighbor's lawn? Just assuming, you know.
320 posted on 05/09/2004 8:17:54 AM PDT by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: William Terrell
Perhaps he really believes that Terri wanted to die if she should have gotten into this state.

Gotten to this state??? Hello, where have you been during all this??? There is some real concern that Michael was the one who caused her "collapse" in the first place. They had been arguing and her friend had told her not to stay at the house that night with Michael. Others have said she was thinking of leaving him. When she "collapsed", he didn't bother trying to revive her nor did he call 911. He waited a period of time and then called her brother so it was a while before everyone got there and he still couldn't be bothered to render even the most simple aid. Her family called 911. Full body scans, which he tried to suppress, shows old trauma and doctors who saw the x-rays commented "wow someone sure worked that woman over".

You also know full well she was not in this state as she was able to eat on her own but it was MS who insisted on a feeding tube. It was MS who denied her the court recommended treatment. It was MS who has denied her visitors. It is MS who has in every sense of the word caused her to be in this state. Quit playing games and deal with the facts.

321 posted on 05/09/2004 8:23:42 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: phenn
Explain why he has allowed years of violations against Terri and why he does not enforced the state MANDATED guardian plans?

He knows more than you do about the law, how it is applied and his duties under it? If there are allegations about the judge, I believe he can be challenged in the state court of appeals. Has he?

322 posted on 05/09/2004 8:25:44 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: phenn
You're assuming rights where none are written?

Yes.

That is a pretty broad interpretation.

Not really.

Perhaps with my responsibilities to insure my car, I also have the right to drive it across my neighbor's lawn? Just assuming, you know.

You can not assume the right to damage the property of another.

323 posted on 05/09/2004 8:28:17 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
Not yet on all issues, but I'm certain it will come to that.

Tell me, why are you defending this judge's behavior?
324 posted on 05/09/2004 8:28:40 AM PDT by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: William Terrell
As you cannot assume the right to act as a durable power of attorney when you are a guardian.
325 posted on 05/09/2004 8:29:17 AM PDT by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: mtbopfuyn
If you believe that Mr. Shiavo is quilty of a crime, inform the currently enpaneled state grand jury or the state attorney's office.

326 posted on 05/09/2004 8:30:59 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: phenn
Tell me, why are you defending this judge's behavior?

From lack of clear proof and not knowing the details of the Florida code and precedent, I have to presume he knows what he's doing.

327 posted on 05/09/2004 8:33:30 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: phenn
As you cannot assume the right to act as a durable power of attorney when you are a guardian.

But the judge differs. You reckon he just loves Michael and hates Terri (or women, as one poster suggested) and is willing to break the law and precedent to effect that?

328 posted on 05/09/2004 8:35:51 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
What you don't know about this case you are making pronouncements on is amazing. Posters here have been trying to fill you in, but if you can still ask a question like this, you are not listening, and it doesn't look like you are referencing any of the material people have been kind enough to refer you to. Too bad, you'd have all your questions answered with a little research. Terri's parents want nothing more than to take care of their daughter for the rest of her life, asking nothing from anybody, but just the chance to do that, and provide her with a loving environment and all the care and comfort they can give her for as long as she naturally lives.

And when you ask if Michael Schiavo is just doing this because he's a mean person, the answer is yes, obviously! Not to mention his other obvious self-interested motivations, which have been patiently detailed to you, ad nauseum, and which are clear from his history. Maybe you are having a hard time believing anyone could be completely evil. So you are assuming his cause must have some merit in it somewhere. It does not. It does not stand up to scrutiny from any angle. There is no rational or decent basis for what he is trying to do. Please stop trying to defend his position when it is indefensible.

Happy Mother's Day to everyone.

329 posted on 05/09/2004 8:36:36 AM PDT by Artlover
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To: William Terrell
You, sir, presume wrongly.
330 posted on 05/09/2004 8:38:23 AM PDT by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: William Terrell
Duh, that's what people are trying to do.

Geez, you are a troll.
331 posted on 05/09/2004 8:40:16 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Artlover
All I hear is opinions based on emotions, and assumption based on facts that could mean simply ignorance. It appears to me to be more about Mr. Shiavo, than about Mrs. Shiavo.

Terri's parents want nothing more than to take care of their daughter for the rest of her life, asking nothing from anybody, but just the chance to do that, and provide her with a loving environment and all the care and comfort they can give her for as long as she naturally lives.

And I ask again, without compensation at the time they take over and at all times subsequent? They are willing to execute a binding agreement to that effect?

332 posted on 05/09/2004 8:41:51 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
Yes, as they have repeatedly testified.
333 posted on 05/09/2004 8:51:43 AM PDT by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: William Terrell
"And I ask again, without compensation at the time they take over and at all times subsequent? They are willing to execute a binding agreement to that effect?"

Who knows? What's your point? Trying to cast aspersions that they might have a financial interest in this? If Terri is entitled now or in future to any benefits to help with her care, nobody will be getting rich on them, that's for sure. They want to care for her because she is their child. Pure & simple.
Have you any more red herrings to throw at us?
334 posted on 05/09/2004 8:52:14 AM PDT by Artlover
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
I'm glad you revealed Michael's middle name, but I'm pretty sure it's Schmutz, not Putz. Michael Der Schmutz Schiavo. It is one of those native American spirit names. Your mother and father might name you Geronimo or something, but a little later in life, you go out and look for some wondrous sign like "Red Cloud" or "Sitting Bull." That is your spirit name.

Michael went out and fell in a pile of buffalo Schmutz. He's been Der Schmutz ever since.

335 posted on 05/09/2004 8:52:28 AM PDT by T'wit ("To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society" - Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: pc93
Is there no way that someone could file for divorce for Terri on the grounds of adultery? The case would be clear, and it would take her out of Michael's power.
336 posted on 05/09/2004 8:53:02 AM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Duh, that's what people are trying to do.

You say that Mr. Shiavo's behavior is in front of a grand jury and after all this time they have not indicted? Or that someone is still trying to pursuade a jury to consider the matter.

And you're willing to drop your objections at the final resolution of the matter, even if it goes against you? Or will you simply assume the courts and grand jurys are corrupt because it is obvious to you that Mr. Shiavo is guilty beyond doubt.

337 posted on 05/09/2004 8:56:12 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: phenn
Yes, as they have repeatedly testified.

Ok, since you have been active on this issue, please post their statement to that effect.

338 posted on 05/09/2004 8:58:29 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: amdgmary
Just divorce this poor woman, you lowlife.
339 posted on 05/09/2004 9:02:52 AM PDT by Libertina (And thanks to all the Dads as well ;))
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To: Artlover
My opinion differs. Is this about what is the best for Terri or what is best for her parents. It has been done time and again, once a person concedes one legal point, immediate lawsuits are filed to proceed with others. Maybe Mr. Shiavo is concerned with that. I would be. This is why there are a lack of apologies on the slavery reparations issue.

And perhaps Mr. Shiavo really believes Terri would want to die. That you don't believe him from evidence meaningful to you is worth no more than anyone else's opinion about and view of that same evidence.

I've said all I have to say, and several time and in several ways. It remains my opinion.

This is my last post on this thread. Please inform the others, or not, at your discretion.

340 posted on 05/09/2004 9:09:49 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
Go to www.terrisfight.org and click on the court documents link. They have said it in court and publicly for years on end.

Are you new here?
341 posted on 05/09/2004 9:13:40 AM PDT by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: William Terrell

342 posted on 05/09/2004 9:21:04 AM PDT by wisconsinconservative ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: William Terrell
There are many possiblities, this being one of them.

Other possibilities:
-Money
-He tried to kill her on the night of her collapse
-He's mad at the Schindlers for questioning him on Terri's lack of treatment
-He's a big proponent of the pro-death crowd.

But, really, you'd have to ask him.
343 posted on 05/09/2004 9:25:24 AM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (The right to die? or the right to be killed - http://www.life-or-death-decisions.org)
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To: William Terrell
Maybe you haven't read the court records where there is a witness who Michael told that he doesn't really know what Terri wants, etc.
344 posted on 05/09/2004 9:25:41 AM PDT by pc93
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To: William Terrell
You have no idea what Terri wants. The closest you may come is what you want.

You keep repeating that to the posters on this thread. We don't know what Terri wants. Maybe she wants an M1 Garand so she can get divorced, Italian style.

We have a duty as human beings to care and comfort those of us who can't do for themselves. By your reasoning, a mother should give birth then expect the infant to find the breast on his own. The infant is helpless and must be cared for and protected. What if we sit around and ponder whether this child actually wanted to be born alive? Do you see how completely idiotic this is? Do you care?

A feeding tube is NOT life support. It is assistance. I'll try and condense this story in keeping with your apparent lack of an attention span. After my mom developed pneumonia several years ago, I was talked into having a feeding tube for her. The excuse was because she could aspirate her food. My mom had a successful hip replacement, and was there solely for physical therapy, which she did not get. When you're in your 80's, and have Alzheimer's and dementia, it's a challenge to follow instructions. The therapists were lazy, and started to avoid me when I showed up every day with soft food. One day, a visiting therapist fed my mom a tray of soft food. She mopped the tray clean with her bread she was so hungry. When I demanded that my mom be fed soft food every day, the resident therapists blew up. It was the most unprofessional display I've ever seen. Then Medicare ran out. All of a sudden they remembered my phone number! I got 3 calls within a week "reminding me" that I had to pay 4800.00 Fortunately, I had contracted with a Christian board and care facility close by my house, when my mom went in for her surgery. I called and told them what was going on. They refused to give my mom physical therapy, and they won't feed her. They sprang into action, and we got her out of there on a Hospice technicality. They were pissed, but couldn't do anything about it :-)

Mom ate like a horse. There were 5 other ladies at this facility, but my mom was their pet. She ate the Philipino food that they cooked for themselves. We actually were a little concerned that she was packing on too much weight, considering that because of the lack of therapy, she never again walked unassisted. She spent her remaining time on earth with good care and good food. We visited her regularly, and she got to know her great grandaughter.

Early September, she decided that she wanted to be with my dad, who passed away in '96. She gradually quit eating, and I took her to the doctor, who couldn't find anything wrong. They called me one day and told me that they were concerned about her breathing, so I went over there and my mom turned around and smiled and said she loved me. That was it. We called 911. She was ready to go. She passed away on my dad's birthday.

God decides the hour and the day, not some judge, or a homocidal husband. If she wanted to die, 6 days of starvation and dehydration would have done it's job.

This is why I support Terri's right to live, and to get the care that is her God given right. What part of this do you not understand?

345 posted on 05/09/2004 9:28:20 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: William Terrell
You would think he would know the laws better, especially since he sits on the guardianship committee. Which makes this all the more disturbing.

744.3215 Rights of persons determined incapacitated.



(1) A person who has been determined to be incapacitated retains the right:

(a) To have an annual review of the guardianship report and plan.

(VIOLATED - Her husband/guardian has failed to file such plans for a number of years. During the years in which he DID submit the required plan, he entered such things as "NONE" for his plan of action.)



(b) To have continuing review of the need for restriction of his or her rights.
(VIOLATED - The guardian courts have not required her husband/guardian to file such reports mentioned above and no consistent continuing review has taken place because of that.)



(c) To be restored to capacity at the earliest possible time.
(VIOLATED - Terri Schiavo has not received therapy since prior to the 1992 medical malpractice settlement in her favor which was intended to facilitate such therapy.)



(d) To be treated humanely, with dignity and respect, and to be protected against abuse, neglect, and exploitation.
(VIOLATED deliberate acts of omission [including humane care and food and water] are considered felony abuse under the law. Terri has been denied food and water on two occasions and simple treatment for infections which could prove fatal without proper treatment.)



(e) To have a qualified guardian.
(VIOLATED - her husband/guardian is no longer qualified for his failure to comply with Florida law requiring annual review of guardianship, failure to properly maintain the property of the ward, failure to comply with the ward’s retained rights to necessary services and living in open adultery which is a misdemeanor under Florida law.)



(f) To remain as independent as possible, including having his or her preference as to place and standard of living honored, either as he or she expressed or demonstrated his or her preference prior to the determination of his or her incapacity or as he or she currently expresses his or her preference, insofar as such request is reasonable.

(VIOLATED - Terri Schiavo is wrongfully confined to a Hospice facility and further confined to a single room without social interaction, stimulation and human company. She is not permitted in common areas of the facility, nor is she permitted outside of the facility under the orders of her husband/guardian)



(g) To be properly educated.

(VIOLATED - Terri has not received speech therapy which could enable her to communicate more effective and to manage table food. It is also believed that she has not received help in learning any other protocol (such as blinking) to assist her in communicating more effectively.)



(h) To receive prudent financial management for his or her property and to be informed how his or her property is being managed, if he or she has lost the right to manage property.
(VIOLATED - Terri’s medical management fund has been all but depleted on legal fees in the pursuit of her death. More than half a million dollars has been paid to one attorney in particular. There is no evidence that Terri would have managed her funds in this way nor given any consent to such.)



(i) To receive necessary services and rehabilitation.
(VIOLATED - Terri Schiavo has not received proper physical, occupational, speech or range of motion therapy. She has been denied treatment for simple infections and she has been denied hospitalization necessitated by serious illness.)



(l) To counsel.
(VIOLATED - Terri Schiavo was never represented during the duration of the guardianship proceedings and did not have a Florida required Guardian ad Litem assigned to represent her during the majority of the proceedings.)



(m) To receive visitors and communicate with others.
(VIOLATED - Terri’s visitor list is strictly managed by her husband/guardian who has, a number of times, barred her family, her friends and her spiritual counsel from visiting her, without the court’s prior approval and on personal whim.)



(n) To notice of all proceedings related to determination of capacity and guardianship, unless the court finds the incapacitated person lacks the ability to comprehend the notice.
(VIOLATED - Terri has not been legally represented in any of the guardianship proceedings and has received no counsel.)



(4) Without first obtaining specific authority from the court, as described in s. 744.3725, a guardian may not:

(a) Commit the ward to a facility, institution, or licensed service provider without formal placement proceeding, pursuant to chapter 393, chapter 394, or chapter 397.

(VIOLATED - Terri was admitted to a Hospice facility in 2000 without prior court approval and in violation of Federal laws pertaining to Hospice confinement qualifications.)



(b) Consent on behalf of the ward to the performance on the ward of any experimental biomedical or behavioral procedure or to the participation by the ward in any biomedical or behavioral experiment.

(VIOLATED - Terri Schiavo was subjected to experimental implant surgery in 1993 without prior court approval and without recommendation of her attending physician. Additionally, she was transported across state lines for said surgery. Follow up care was never provided and no further maintenance services have ever been provided for the implanted electrodes.)



744.2025 Change of ward's residence.

(1) PRIOR COURT APPROVAL REQUIRED.--A guardian who has power pursuant to this chapter to determine the residence of the ward may not, without court approval, change the residence of the ward from this state to another, or from one county of this state to another county of this state, unless such county is adjacent to the county of the ward's current residence. Any guardian who wishes to remove the ward from the ward's current county of residence to another county which is not adjacent to the ward's current county of residence must obtain court approval prior to removal of the ward.

(VIOLATED - Terri Schiavo was moved to a Hospice facility in 2000 by her husband without prior court approval. The Hospice House in question was served by his attorney, George Felos, in the capacity of Chairman up until that same time.)



744.3145 Guardian education requirements

(4) Each person appointed by the court to be a guardian must complete the required number of hours of instruction and education within 1 year after his or her appointment as guardian.

(VIOLATED - See Above.)



798.01 Living in open adultery

Whoever lives in an open state of adultery shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. Where either of the parties living in an open state of adultery is married, both parties so living shall be deemed to be guilty of the offense provided for in this section.

(VIOLATED - Michael Schiavo has cohabitated and fathered children with another woman while still married to Terri Schiavo.)



825.102 - Abuse, Neglect and Exploitation of Elderly Persons and Disabled Adults.



(1) "Abuse of an elderly person or disabled adult" means:

(a) Intentional infliction of physical or psychological injury upon an elderly person or disabled adult;

(VIOLATED - Physical injury by denial of simple procedures to alleviate painful contractures of the hands and possible disfigurement because of said contractures. Psychological abuse in denial of company, stimulation, acts of caging.)



(b) An intentional act that could reasonably be expected to result in physical or psychological injury to an elderly person or disabled adult; or

(VIOLATED - Intentional denial of treatment for simple infection with the knowledge that doing so would hasten death 1993.)



(c) Active encouragement of any person to commit an act that results or could reasonably be expected to result in physical or psychological injury to an elderly person or disabled adult.

(VIOLATED - By instructing caregivers not to provide relief of contractures; by instructing doctors not to treat for simple infection.)



A person who knowingly or willfully abuses an elderly person or disabled adult without causing great bodily harm, permanent disability, or permanent disfigurement to the elderly person or disabled adult commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(2) "Aggravated abuse of an elderly person or disabled adult" occurs when a person:

(a) Commits aggravated battery on an elderly person or disabled adult;

(b) Willfully tortures, maliciously punishes, or willfully and unlawfully cages, an elderly person or disabled adult;

(VIOLATED - Denial of human comfort and spiritual comfort at personal whim. Terri Schiavo is also wrongfully caged, kept confined to a single room and without stimulation or ability to be taken outside.)



(c) Knowingly or willfully abuses an elderly person or disabled adult and in so doing causes great bodily harm, permanent disability, or permanent disfigurement to the elderly person or disabled adult.

(VIOLATED - Terri suffers from severe contractures in her hands because of lack of care.)



1. A caregiver's failure or omission to provide an elderly person or disabled adult with the care, supervision, and services necessary to maintain the elderly person's or disabled adult's physical and mental health, including, but not limited to, food, nutrition, clothing, shelter, supervision, medicine, and medical services that a prudent person would consider essential for the well-being of the elderly person or disabled adult; or

(VIOLATED - Denial of treatment of simple infection which would, on Schiavo’s own admission, hasten death, removal of food and water, denial of medicine.)



2. A caregiver's failure to make a reasonable effort to protect an elderly person or disabled adult from abuse, neglect, or exploitation by another person.

(VIOLATED - The results of a 1991 bone scan, indicating multiple and serious trauma to Terri’s body were never reported or investigated by her husband/guardian.)



825.103 Exploitation of an elderly person or disabled adult; penalties.



(2)(a) If the funds, assets, or property involved in the exploitation of the elderly person or disabled adult is valued at $100,000 or more, the offender commits a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(VIOLATED - Funds that were awarded to Terri Schiavo have been spent down by Michael Schiavo to pay his legal fees. These funds were awarded to Terri Schiavo as a medical management/rehabilitation settlement and remain her property. Her guardian has all but wasted her entire estate on his own legal pursuits.)

346 posted on 05/09/2004 9:29:28 AM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (The right to die? or the right to be killed - http://www.life-or-death-decisions.org)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Actually he called her father saying she was dead or dying and was told to call 911 at least three times. Terri's dad then told Bobby Jr. to get over there. Michael is a liar.. read his depositions, etc. about his account of what happened and who he called, etc. what he did with Terri and how she was found by the paramedics, etc.
347 posted on 05/09/2004 9:30:01 AM PDT by pc93
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To: phenn
Then post the statement verbatum.

348 posted on 05/09/2004 9:32:49 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: phenn
AHCA was asking me about that question.. my assumption is that they think that Michael has this durable power of attorney over Terri. Also AHCA is guilty of fraud and so is Michael Schiavo regarding my last two complaints with AHCA.. I just got their response yesterday and they are saying the issues I raised in my latest complaint against Hospice of Florida Suncoast were investigated on April 1st, 04.. problem is that I have that investigation and I know for a fact that my concerns were not investigated per my latest complaint and that is a coverup and is fraud not just on me and Terri, but on the public. I need some help in exposing this.. I need some help on nailing these people for fraud. Please help. I'm holding out hope that this can help Terri. On the complaint against Park Place Assisted Living I now have an answer in regards to my complaint that proves Michael Schiavo committed fraud on the courts and on the Schindlers.
349 posted on 05/09/2004 9:35:22 AM PDT by pc93
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To: pc93

Terri?s Collapse

Feb 25, 1990 Police Report
St Petersburg Police Department

July 27, 1992 Deposition of Michael Schiavo for
Medical Malpractice Trial

January 27, 2000 Trial Testimony

WRITER RESPONDED TO THE ABOVE ADDRESS IN REFERENCE TO PARAMEDICS NEEDING ASSISTANCE ON A MEDICAL EMERGENCY.

 

UPON ARRIVAL, WRITER SPOKE WITH FIREFIGHTER/PARAMEDIC J. RADJESKI. HE STATED HE RESPONDED TO THE ADDRESS FOR A MEDICAL EMERGENCY. THEY FOUND A SUBJECT IN QUESTION (THERESA) LYING FACE DOWN AND UNCONSCIOUS HALFWAY IN AND HALFWAY OUT OF A BATHROOM.

 

Arrived: 06:33      Completed: 08:55

Q. Now, what - when you saw her, do you know what time it was?

SCHIAVO:  I believe it was almost five a.m..

Q. When you saw her, how was she lying; in other words, on her back or ?

SCHIAVO:  On her back.

Q. What did you do, then, after you ?

SCHIAVO:  After she fell?

Q. After you found her in the hallway.

SCHIAVO:  I was ? I was to her within two seconds. I seen she stopped breathing. I ran to the phone, called 911 within five seconds and panicked.

Q. What did you do, then ? after that?

SCHIAVO: I went over to her. I ? I thought maybe ? I just started talking to her and hold  her. I didn?t know what to do.

Q. Did you do any CPR?

SCHIAVO: No.

Q. Okay ? after 911 and after you were holding her, what was ? what then happened, was the next thing that happened?

SCHIAVO: I laid Terri down, I went over and called my ? I remember my brother-in-law lived in the same complex; I called him.

SCHIAVO: A few hours later, I was getting out of bed for some reason and I heard this thud. So, I ran out into the hall and I found Terri on the floor. I knelt down next to her and I turned her over because she sort of fell on her face. On her stomach and face.

I turned her over going, ?Terri, Terri. You okay?? She kind of had this gurgling noise. I laid her down and ran over and called 911. I called her brother who lived in the same complex as we did. I ran back to Terri. She was not moving. I held her in my arms until her brother got there.

 

(NOTE- Robert Schindler, Sr. has stated that Michael phoned him. He advised him to phone 911, hung up and phoned Robert Schindler, Jr.)

 

Larry King Live aired October 27, 2003

KING: Let's go back. What happened, Michael, on February 25, 1990?

 

I race out there and Terri was laying in the hall. I went down to get her. I thought, Well, maybe she just tripped or whatever. I rolled her over and she was lifeless. And it almost seems like she had this last breath.

 

So I held her in my arms, and I'm trying to shake her up. I ran over, I called 911. Her brother happened to live in the same complex as we did. I called him. I went back to Terri. And from there, six, seven minutes later, the paramedics...


350 posted on 05/09/2004 9:35:53 AM PDT by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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