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Evidence Suggests Larger Conspiracy in Okla. Bombing (Audio-Follow Link)
NPR ^ | Goodwyn | Wade

Posted on 05/07/2004 4:10:37 PM PDT by TigerTale

NPR's Wade Goodwyn reports on evidence there were more conspirators involved in the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. Nichols is on trial in McAlester, Okla., on state charges stemming from the largest act of domestic terrorism in U.S. history.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas; US: Kansas; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: bombing; okcbombing; oklahomacity; timothymcveigh
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This is a riviting report about the liklihood that there were others involved in the Oklahoma City bombing (and not just John Doe #2.)

It is worth noting that, in this case, the existance of a conspiracy is not disputed--it is established fact. The question is, how far did the conspiracy extend? Did it stop with Nichols and McVeigh, or were there others involved? This is an exercise, not in conspiracy theory, but in conspiracy analysis.

Anyone with any interest in, or connection to, the OKC bombing should listen to Goodwyn's excellent report.

Follow the source URL link for the NPR page, where you can get the story in the Real Audio and Windows Media formats. The reports link, above, is WMF only.

1 posted on 05/07/2004 4:10:37 PM PDT by TigerTale
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To: TigerTale
NPR? Never heard of 'em.
2 posted on 05/07/2004 4:14:04 PM PDT by NeonKnight
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To: TigerTale
This has been known ever since it happened. The question is, will the usual suspects let the whole story come out? I doubt it.

For whatever reason, Bush has covered for clinton on every possible occasion. The FBI, the ATF, and the CIA were up to their necks in this, and it's inconceivable that they will ever let the cat out of the bag.

I agree, it's gratifying when a little of it manages to make its way into the news.
3 posted on 05/07/2004 4:17:06 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NeonKnight
NPR? Never heard of 'em.

If you have any interest in the topic, I recommend witholding judgement until you listen to the report, regardless of the source. The segment is extremely well-done.

4 posted on 05/07/2004 4:17:12 PM PDT by TigerTale (From the streets of Tehran to the Gulf of Oman, let freedom ring.)
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To: Cicero
I agree, it's gratifying when a little of it manages to make its way into the news.

I admit, I have not made study of the matter, so perhaps I found this treatment more compelling than would others. I had never heard of the Aryan National Army (I think that's right--hard to remember without a transcript.) I was blown away to learn the FBI has 20 prints from the Dreamland motel in Junction City--prints they have never run. And they admitted as much in open court. Wow.

5 posted on 05/07/2004 4:20:47 PM PDT by TigerTale (From the streets of Tehran to the Gulf of Oman, let freedom ring.)
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To: TigerTale
Good audio. You can listen and still surf the web if you use IE.
6 posted on 05/07/2004 4:22:38 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Re-elect Dubya)
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To: Cicero
I agree, it's gratifying when a little of it manages to make its way into the news.

Apparently, some of the victims and family members think Nichols' lawyers may blow this open during his second trial, in an attempt to deflect blame from their client.

7 posted on 05/07/2004 4:24:45 PM PDT by TigerTale (From the streets of Tehran to the Gulf of Oman, let freedom ring.)
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To: TigerTale
Thanks for the link. I AM interested.

ML/NJ

8 posted on 05/07/2004 4:25:19 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Good audio. You can listen and still surf the web if you use IE.

Yeah. I used to be a Real Audio man, but I almost always use Windows Media Player, these days.

9 posted on 05/07/2004 4:26:01 PM PDT by TigerTale (From the streets of Tehran to the Gulf of Oman, let freedom ring.)
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NPR is the only outlet I saw, a few weeks ago, that covered the Secret Service memo regarding the video tape.

They deserve applause.
10 posted on 05/07/2004 4:26:41 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: TigerTale
Sorry. That last response was supposed to be the this part of your post:

The FBI, the ATF, and the CIA were up to their necks in this, and it's inconceivable that they will ever let the cat out of the bag.

11 posted on 05/07/2004 4:27:01 PM PDT by TigerTale (From the streets of Tehran to the Gulf of Oman, let freedom ring.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I was glad that Terry wasn't fried so we could maybe get to some truth to the OKC bombing. GORELICK was giving the orders at the time.
12 posted on 05/07/2004 4:27:08 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: ml/nj
Thanks for the link. I AM interested.

No problem. I live in Overland Park, which is mentioned in the story, and I am originally form McPherson, where some of the fertilizer for the bomb was purchased. So this story hits close to home.

13 posted on 05/07/2004 4:29:10 PM PDT by TigerTale (From the streets of Tehran to the Gulf of Oman, let freedom ring.)
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NPR is the only outlet I saw, a few weeks ago, that covered the Secret Service memo regarding the video tape.

I find it difficult to dismiss the entire organization for its editorial bent. I just like to be aware of the spin.

Just wish NPR didn't pay for its spin with my tax money. :)

14 posted on 05/07/2004 4:32:22 PM PDT by TigerTale (From the streets of Tehran to the Gulf of Oman, let freedom ring.)
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I was glad that Terry wasn't fried so we could maybe get to some truth to the OKC bombing.

Yes. If it weren't for the current trial, all of this might just stay buried.

There is the professor who is coming out with a book highlighting McVeigh's possible connections with the ARA, but the trial makes it more likely someone will pay attention.

15 posted on 05/07/2004 4:35:13 PM PDT by TigerTale (From the streets of Tehran to the Gulf of Oman, let freedom ring.)
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To: TigerTale
Aryan National Army

Aryan Republican Army. Sorry.

16 posted on 05/07/2004 4:36:13 PM PDT by TigerTale (From the streets of Tehran to the Gulf of Oman, let freedom ring.)
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To: TigerTale
I lost a lot of gadgets on this computer last week when I was hit by a virus that I was trying to clean up. I may not even have Real Audio anymore. My computer is still not back to normal, and I may have to reinstall everything. :(
17 posted on 05/07/2004 4:37:29 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Re-elect Dubya)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Found this in a government paper on the OKC bombing.

And Democratic representative Charles Schumer urged Republican leaders to delay plans to vote on a repeal of the assault weapons ban in light of the Oklahoma tragedy.

"It would send the wrong message to paramilitary extremists on one side and ordinary people on the other," Schumer said in a letter to Dole & House Speaker Gingrich.

Why didn't he use the term "terrorists" rather than limiting it??

18 posted on 05/07/2004 4:44:48 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I lost a lot of gadgets on this computer last week when I was hit by a virus that I was trying to clean up. I may not even have Real Audio anymore. My computer is still not back to normal, and I may have to reinstall everything.

It won't help now, but in the future? When you get it restored, clone the drive to a spare HD. All the HD makers I'm familiar with offer free software that includes some sort of drive copy feature. The spare naturally has to be big enough to hold all your data, but that said, this is the fastest way to recover from disaster. I clone mine routinely.

19 posted on 05/07/2004 4:45:06 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: TigerTale
Well, I'm listening to the NPR report.

And maybe there is a good reason to be suspicious of NPR.

Jayna Davis has just had a book published, and some time ago she conducted a rather amazing public presentation to Sen. Arlen Specter which you can listen to here. Davis establishes an Iraqi connection in her work.

The report you linked seems very suspicious to me. Why is the Jayna Davis book, published last month, not even mentioned? My guess is that this NPR report is a backfire of sorts to deflect attention away from an Iraqi connection. This may solely be due to the political consideration that establishment of an Iraqi connection would help President Bush, but there may be other nefarious reasons. I cannot think of any good reason for for not mentioning Jayna Davis at all in a 12 minute news segment except that this report is disinformation.

ML/NJ

20 posted on 05/07/2004 4:46:26 PM PDT by ml/nj
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