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Oregonian Live ^ | May 08, 2004 | Marc Larabee, Steven Beaven, Kathleen Blythe, Bryan Denson and Lori Tobias

Posted on 05/08/2004 2:36:59 PM PDT by Grampa Dave

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To: dixiechick2000; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; potlatch; ntnychik; Liz; Travis McGee; onyx
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DOMESTIC TERRORISM & SABOTAGE

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Portland Oregon - FBI - Warrant - 2003

power line tower saboteur

http://portland.fbi.gov/pressrel/2003/poulin.htm

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Las Vegas Nevada - tower toppled by sabotage 2001

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2000/Jan-01-Sat-2000/news/12666435.html

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-- I thought it was an Oregon link
151 posted on 05/09/2004 4:34:52 PM PDT by devolve (................... (..........................Hello from Sunny South Florida!..................)
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To: devolve

152 posted on 05/09/2004 5:11:56 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Sacajaweau
So the timer on the phone was the detonator.

No, a cell phone is not a detonator. A detonator is: "A small, electrically activated explosive charge that explodes a larger charge." http://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/Display.cfm?Term=detonator

When the news reports that cell phones were "detonators" it just shows their ignorance. The cell phones were used as triggers for the detonators.

Depending on the cell phone, it should be perfectly possible for it to be used as a timer without it ever being activated for receiving calls. The reason for using a cell phone instead of an alarm clock is that it puts out an internal electrical signal which activates the ringer. The signal

It is not obvious to me why a SIM card was necessary in the phone. All the card should do is allow the phone to make & receive calls. If I were using the phone as a timer, I would not want the phone activated to receive calls. A wrong number would lead to a serious "work accident".

153 posted on 05/09/2004 6:05:20 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Squantos; archy
Federal investigators are examining whether a Washington County lawyer shipped materials later used by terrorists to blow up four commuter trains in Madrid on March 11, a law enforcement official said Friday. Brandon Mayfield, 37, a former U.S. Army officer and Aloha father of three, was linked to the attack that killed 191 people by a fingerprint on a bag containing detonating devices. The bag was discovered by Spanish investigators inside a van that was near the train station where three of the trains originated, officials said.

Do you read "detonating devices" as blasting caps? They are certainly light and easy to ship.

154 posted on 05/09/2004 6:33:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: CurlyDave
I read the layman's term "detonator" as meaning an electrical blasting cap, a small hollow aluminum tube about three inches long and 3/16" diameter, with two thin wires coming out of one end. It's filled with a bit of PETN or other explosive. If our lawyer jihadist had any pals with connections to mining or demolition, that would be a big lead. As a commo specialist in the Army, he would not have had access to them.
155 posted on 05/09/2004 6:37:44 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Caps, Squibs, EBW's, ................yep.

Stay Safe !

156 posted on 05/09/2004 6:47:47 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Mike Hawash underwent a similar change in shaving habits and dress as he was radicalized.
157 posted on 05/09/2004 6:48:02 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Travis McGee
One of the members of the Portland Cell worked in the Dept of Transportation as an roadway engineer, I believe. Wouldn't he have access to something like that?
158 posted on 05/09/2004 6:53:02 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Travis McGee
Halstead,Kansas is close enough to Fort Riley and Junction City,Kansas that Mayfield "could" have done any shopping for illicit materials in that area,especially if he already had contacts there.

Years back,at least,Junction City was known as a place where you could buy nearly anything if you had the money.

Even stolen items from quarrys,oilfield,etc.,that were too "hot" to sell elsewhere could be sold or fenced in the area."Anything" that someone could steal from the Fort would be available around there,too.

I don't think it would be that much of a problem to get ahold of blasting caps,or anything else,if a person is willing to steal or pay blackmarket prices. :(

159 posted on 05/09/2004 8:03:30 PM PDT by Free Trapper (One with courage is often a majority.)
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To: Free Trapper; piasa; Squantos
When used as directed, explosives (and blasting caps) basically disappear. It makes it easy to divert a few for personal use or resale. I hope the FBI and ATF are all over this.
160 posted on 05/09/2004 8:32:44 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
I read the layman's term "detonator" as meaning an electrical blasting cap

A blasting cap is certainly one of the more common types of detonators.

The news reports at the time said the muslims had traded a substantial amount of hashish for explosives stolen from a quarry. The explosives were of Spanish manufacture and also included a quantity of blasting caps.

Wasn't there even a report of them being stopped for some traffic offense with hundreds of kilos of explosives in the trunk of their stolen car? The car had not yet been reported stolen, so they got a ticket & went on their way.

The problem I see with Mayfield's involvement is that the Palestinians, the Greeks, the muslims in France, in Algeria and just about any place there are muslims, already know how to rig a cell phone as a trigger. Any moderately competent electronics tech could figure this out on his own in less than an hour given a cell phone he could sacrifice. Why anyone would go to the time, trouble and risk of involving a US muslim is a big question.

If Mayfield was involved, a significant possibility would be that someone wanted a hold on him. Blackmail him into participating on an attack in the US by threatening to reveal his involvement with the Spanish attack.

161 posted on 05/09/2004 10:16:54 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: backhoe
Thanks Heavy Equipment Guy.
162 posted on 05/09/2004 10:20:07 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (FReep eye for the liberal lie or what left wing lies of the media will we expose today?)
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To: CurlyDave
Good questions. Certainly, the same supply of commercial grade explosives in Spain could have provided electrical blasting caps. But who knows?
163 posted on 05/09/2004 10:41:30 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: oceanview
"[W]hy would he ship them a "bag" from the US, they could get bags anyplace in Madrid."

But really, why would he ship them anything? Couldn't they get detonaters in Spain too? Or maybe they couldn't, if they were being watched. But where they being watched? If so, not closely enough.

He's gotta know something, this guy. The odds of this being a coincidence are off the scale.

Great backround piece, interesting to learn he converted to please his wife. He's handsome, she's most unattractive, at least from pictures I saw the other day.

This story may end up revealing how deep the Muslim plot to take over America from within really is.
164 posted on 05/10/2004 12:04:48 AM PDT by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: jocon307; Shermy; Travis McGee
They have a fascination for shipping things.

In the East Africa US Embassy bombing cases, communication between operatives and 'middle managers' and bin Laden would consist of packages and notes written to one person containing contact numbers for another, who in turn had info to contact yet another higher-up member of al Qaeda.

al Marri of 'second wave fame' had a tunk shipped to the US with him which the FBI thought to be very interesting.

Atta also mailed a package back to the middle east right before his human cruise missile trick.

And then there is this- mailing 'seeds.'

"He [bin Laden] was a busy person and had hundreds of people working for him," said one El Hage family member. "You didn't get to see him unless he invited you." El Hage's mother-in-law received letters from El Hage that contained seed samples from the Sudanese farms. El Hage frequently took international trips to Europe and elsewhere on business for bin Laden, family members say. -"A Portrait of Wadih El Hage, Accused Terrorist," by Oriana Zill, Frontline, PBS.org, http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/upclose/elhage.html.(Oriana Zill was Associate Producer of FRONTLINE's "Hunting Bin Laden")

It's worth noting that Iraq had heavy influence in Sudan when bin Laden was in the farming business.

165 posted on 05/10/2004 3:25:55 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Travis McGee
Bin Laden's past of being in the road construction biz probably means they have easy access to blasting caps and other detonators. Also, it may be that the bag that had this guy's fingerprint on it had different contents originally than what was ultimately found in it.
166 posted on 05/10/2004 3:30:27 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: jocon307
She is not as bad as the picture of her in her Muslim gear. There is an old family picture, maybe 8 years old. She is quite attractive in that picture.

The entire family is dressed in American style clothes. It almost looks like an Easter Sunday picture as the little girl has a hat on similar to what one might see on Easter Sunday. So she played "I'm and American" for a long time. I'm more suspicious of her as hubby's helpmate. SHE has mideast connections AND knows several languages.

Mayfield and the sniper's lives run in parallel tracks. Where were the Mayfields on 9-11 and what were their comments?

167 posted on 05/10/2004 3:45:32 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: oceanview
GSM equipment is the European Standard!!
168 posted on 05/10/2004 6:08:35 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
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To: Grampa Dave
I was trying to figure out why someone suspected of a crime in another country would be arrested in USA. I guess because of the nature of the crime, if he is guilty, and our upcoming elections in Nov.? They were afraid he would try the same thing here? I thought if you committed a crime in another country, you were home scott free. I guess the new global cooperation in the Western countries, is the reason for this? I remember that man who fled to France, after killing his girlfriend, and he stayed there for decades. I guess it all depends on the crime, how serious it is, and if you are a threat to the country where you are??????
169 posted on 05/10/2004 6:12:58 AM PDT by buffyt (Kerry is a Flop Flipper, he Flips Flop, all the Flop that he Flips, is well Flipped Flop!)
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To: buffyt
America has had extradition for suspected criminals with our allies for a long time.

The last thing a country wants to be is a criminal sanctuary.

France doesn't extradite criminals who committed murder because we have the death penalty.

Canada takes forever in that situation.
170 posted on 05/10/2004 6:22:21 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (FReep eye for the liberal lie or what left wing lies of the media will we expose today?)
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To: Destro
More dots to connect, but Western blindness still fails to see the pattern. It would require nothing short of a swift kick to the head to wake up most individuals. I thought 911 would have been that gratuitous kick, seems like I was in error.
171 posted on 05/10/2004 7:18:43 AM PDT by C4GoBoom
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To: devolve
I do remember that ~ thanx!
172 posted on 05/10/2004 7:45:24 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Travis McGee; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; onyx

Blasing caps?

You know they are.


Chuckie Schumer & Carolyn McCarthy & DiFi & Hillary


"Inspector Taggant" Alert!

Obviously manufactured by a greedy evil US capitalist!


- but an oddball left coast "Religion of Pssssss" radical shyster is being framed just because of his fingerprints on a bag on the other side of the globe.....


173 posted on 05/10/2004 10:50:21 AM PDT by devolve (................... (..........................Hello from Sunny South Florida!..................)
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To: blackie
It's goin' good, blackie, thank you!! I wish the rest of the world had as much peace and quiet around them. How's our blackie?
174 posted on 05/10/2004 6:30:26 PM PDT by AuntB (Law Schools & Journalism schools are America's Madrassas.(aculeus) Jamie Gorelick is proof!)
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To: randog
Check THIS out, especially the contrast between what is revealed in this article compared to what FReepers know about our dear Mr. Mayfield.

I have independently confirmed some of this stuff. This is by no means simply about a fingerprint.
175 posted on 05/10/2004 7:47:11 PM PDT by Imal (Bush to Arabs: Sorry Our Women Abused Your Men!)
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To: VOA
My guess is that this is the sort of glowing endorsement that would go over well with the liberal coffee-house crowd in Portland...

If she had $600,000,000.... John Kerry would marry her.

176 posted on 05/10/2004 7:58:05 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: AuntB
I'm glad to hear that "B"!

We're doing great here in beautiful Eugene, everything is perfect!

Thanks for asking. :)
177 posted on 05/11/2004 8:10:11 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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bttt
178 posted on 05/11/2004 8:55:30 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Grampa Dave
BUMP for later read
179 posted on 05/11/2004 8:58:53 AM PDT by eleni121 (Preempt and Prevent---then Destroy)
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To: Grampa Dave
Found this little tidbit on Atty Mayfield:

"He sometimes volunteers to help teach English to local Muslims".

1. It doesn't say they are "children".

2. I would guess that he knows the Muslim language in order to be able to do this.

3. It would seem more likely that his wife would engage in this given her language (6) skills.

4. Would make a "nice guy" cover for an anti-american.

180 posted on 05/12/2004 5:26:11 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Update

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1135750/posts?page=4


181 posted on 05/14/2004 2:18:04 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Sacajaweau
From an updated article about Mayfield:

He met his wife, Mona, a Muslim born in Egypt, while stationed in Tacoma, Wash. The couple married in 1988 and Mayfield converted a year later. At the time, Mona Mayfield was not a practicing Muslim. After the death of her father, the family began attending Friday prayers. But they were never devout.

182 posted on 05/14/2004 2:22:44 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
Just a little tidbit:

The FBI took Mona's kid's SPANISH homework.

The MOSQUE asked Mayfield to do Battle's custody suit. Mayfield flew to TEXAS for this.

Do his cases give him the ability to move around making "other" connections as he goes on his cases?

183 posted on 05/16/2004 4:29:08 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

I missed the part where Mayfield went to Texas to work on the custody case - though I did notice that the child lives near Houston now.

Battle didn't attend the same mosque as Mayfield - it was the two Bilal brothers of the Portland Seven that did.

The Moroccan "dignitaries" who were detained for a few hours at the Portland airport had been in Dallas first, which is where they had obtained the Arabic documents with reference to 911, which raised the alarm at the airport. The story is their host in Dallas gave them information about what they should do in case of an emergency. uh-huh


184 posted on 05/16/2004 9:56:07 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
The names of the Oregon 7 (as we know them) are all aliases. I keep wondering about Brandon Mayfield's middle name.....BIERI?? I keep trying to "define it" or put numbers to it. Also, I can't seem to find Mona's maiden name.

It was the Mosque folks who asked him to do Battle and I assume it was the Bilal mosque.

185 posted on 05/16/2004 10:32:18 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: ValerieUSA

I just saw it. Her maiden name was Mona Mohamed. Amazing!!


186 posted on 05/16/2004 10:35:11 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

What a surprise!
I hope you recover from the shock before dinner.


187 posted on 05/16/2004 10:36:04 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Sacajaweau; Grampa Dave; yall

update

http://www.kgw.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D82J7ED83.html


Terror arrest: Brandon Mayfield's family waits for answers

05/15/2004

By RUKMINI CALLIMACHI / Associated Press


After the FBI agents left, Mona Mayfield wept at her kitchen table, then pulled herself together to survey the damage.

Her house looked like it had been robbed — every room had been ransacked, closets emptied and drawers upturned.

"They took my children's Spanish homework," said Mona Mayfield, standing in her son's room where papers were still spilling out of a half-open cupboard, one week after authorities arrested Brandon Mayfield in connection with Spain's worst terrorist attack.

Mayfield, a struggling Portland attorney and a white convert to Islam, was taken into custody at his suburban law office on May 6, after his fingerprint was allegedly found on a plastic bag in a van near the Alcala de Henares train station outside Madrid.

The bag contained detonators which officials say were of the same kind used to blow up four commuter trains in the Spanish capital on March 11, killing 191 people and injuring 2,000 others.

Eighteen people have been charged so far — six with mass murder and the rest with belonging to a terrorist organization. Mayfield is the only American to have been connected with the bombings, although he has not been charged with a crime.

Mayfield's family insists he is innocent. To them, the missing Spanish homework shows that federal agents are desperate to find evidence.

"They can turn anyone into a terrorist," said Mona Mayfield.

A former Army officer, Brandon Mayfield has not been outside the United States since serving at the Bitburg air base in Germany in the 1990s, she said.

According to senior law enforcement officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, the FBI is convinced the fingerprint in Madrid is Mayfield's. But Spanish officials, as well as U.S. counterterrorism experts, have raised doubts.

Three days after Mayfield's arrest, forensic experts in Spain told the newspaper El Pais that they found only eight points of similarity between the print on the plastic bag and Mayfield's, instead of the 15 required for an exact match.

Senior U.S. law enforcement officials said Mayfield had been under surveillance for several weeks before his arrest. When it became clear that news about him might leak out, the Justice Department decided to place him in custody, officials said.

It's a move that raises red flags for counterterrorism expert Michael Greenberger, a former U.S. Department of Justice official.

"The fact that they are using the material witness statute shows they don't have probable cause to arrest him. They're scrambling to find a way to detain him," said Greenberger, who now heads the University of Maryland's Center for Health and Homeland Security.

Under the 1984 material witness statute, prosecutors can seek an arrest warrant and hold an individual without filing charges if the witness' testimony is considered crucial and there is a reasonable risk of the witness fleeing. In the Bush administration's war on terror, the statute has been used to detain possible terror suspects without filing charges.

Portland has its own example — one that proved doubters of an earlier terrorism investigation here wrong. Mike Hawash, a former Intel software engineer, was arrested and held for five weeks without being charged. His case led to a public outcry and a "Free Mike Hawash" campaign.

But six months later, Hawash pleaded guilty to conspiracy to wage war against the United States, as did five others accused of planning to help the Taliban fight American forces.

Mayfield has ties to Jeffrey Battle, one of the six.

Mayfield was not involved in the criminal case, but instead represented Battle in a custody hearing involving his child. Family members say a local mosque approached Mayfield, asking him to take the case.

Quanell X, head of the New Black Muslim Movement in Houston and a Battle family friend, said Mayfield went out of his way to help Battle, flying to Houston, Texas, on his own money to represent the terrorism suspect in the domestic dispute.

Mayfield converted to Islam after marrying Mona, who immigrated to rural Washington as a child.

"My initial reaction was he's a Muslim because he's married to Mona and his own heart is still Christian. He never adopted the outward symbols of the faith — he trimmed his beard and wore American clothes," said Washburn University law professor Ali Khan in Topeka, Kan., where Mayfield attended law school.

Mayfield's 63-year-old mother has come to Aloha from Kansas to bring order to her son's home.

"He was a delightful child — a happy baby who never cried," said AvNell Mayfield. "This (his arrest) is a terrible mistake," she said.

The living room of the white clapboard house had been cleaned up after the FBI raid. But the bedrooms were still in disarray.

"This is so embarrassing," said Mona Mayfield, standing in the bedroom she shared with her husband, where her clothes are spilling out of the closet. "This is not the way I live."

Mayfield's mother and his younger brother have taken a leave of absence from their jobs in Kansas to be with Mona. The Mayfield's three children, ages 10, 12 and 15, have been provided security at their local schools.

"Either charge him, so he can defend himself, or set him free," said Kent Mayfield, 35, the attorney's brother. "In the meantime, peoples' lives are being destroyed."

AvNell Mayfield recalled a sensitive boy who once nursed an injured bluejay back to health and was fond of watercolors.

She was able to see her son on Mother's Day.

"They take you in a little cubicle. There's a glass thing and a telephone, just like in the movies," she said.

Mayfield told his mother: "Usually on Mother's Day, I would have made an effort to come to you. This time you came to me."


188 posted on 05/16/2004 10:37:34 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Imal
"My initial reaction was he's a Muslim because he's married to Mona and his own heart is still Christian. He never adopted the outward symbols of the faith — he trimmed his beard and wore American clothes," said Washburn University law professor Ali Khan in Topeka, Kan., where Mayfield attended law school.

Ain't that special. American Muslims have their own law professor -- and he judges them on their Muslimness, too. I wonder if Mayfield was ever pressured to prove himself to be true to the faith with a special test.
He wasn't raised a Christian, so why assume his heart was Christian, unless Ali Khan is a prejudiced law professor.

Also this struggling lawyer and family man paid his own airfare to Houston from Portland to represent Battle in a doomed child custody case? No way did he stand a chance in heck to win this one. This was a courier run.....

189 posted on 05/16/2004 10:49:56 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
"He was a delightful child — a happy baby who never cried," said AvNell Mayfield. "This (his arrest) is a terrible mistake," she said.

Uh-oh. My second son was a very colicky baby who cried for 5 months. I guess he's the one who should be an Islamic terrorist these days.

190 posted on 05/16/2004 11:35:58 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Sacajaweau; Grampa Dave

another article:

Wife: `He did nothing wrong'
Husband held as witness in Spain bombing
By TOMAS ALEX TIZON
Los Angeles Times

ALOHA, Ore. -- Mona Mayfield answers her front door with a smile and an outstretched hand. She is pleasant and polite, going out of her way to make a stranger feel at home.

But her swollen eyes betray her. In a moment she is crying and barely able to speak.

"He did nothing wrong," she says, her voice heavy with grief.

She is referring to her husband, Brandon Mayfield, a lawyer being held at the Multnomah County Detention Center as a material witness in connection with the March train bombings in Madrid, Spain. A fingerprint on a plastic bag led to his arrest.

(excerpt)
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2572829


191 posted on 05/16/2004 11:39:56 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
Brandon joined the Army right out of high school.

Other reports say he attended community college on a track scholarship before joining the Army.

192 posted on 05/16/2004 11:42:23 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
The "He did nothing wrong" statement hit me the wrong way.. kinda like saying...He did something which I don't consider wrong.

And so stuff is still hanging out of the drawers a week after the FBI left??

He flew to Houston for Battle on his own funds?? There is a Bieri lake and several dams named Bieri...and I believe it's not too far from Houston.

193 posted on 05/16/2004 12:47:15 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

They definitely have the victim act down cold. It's a great diversion from the evidence of guilt - all of this "evidence" of innocence. He was such a good baby.


194 posted on 05/16/2004 12:53:05 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Grampa Dave

A Bulgarian has also been arrested in connection with the Madrid train bombing:

http://www.brunei-online.com/bb/fri/may14w32.htm

MADRID (AFP) - Bulgarian police are holding a Bulgarian suspect in the Madrid train bombings, identified as Tony Rades, whom they arrested early last month, Spanish police said Wednesday.
Rades' name appeared on documents found during police raids following the March 11 attacks, and is thought to have been involved in planning them.

Spanish state radio said Rades, the first Bulgarian in the case, was linked to some of the mobile telephones used to detonate bombs left in backpacks on four suburban trains in Madrid, where the near simultaneous explosions claimed 191 lives.

The suspect, who left Spain on March 3, was arrested April 8, but his detention was not made public until Wednesday by Bulgaria's intelligence services.

Thirteen people, mostly Moroccans, are in detention in Spain in connection with the bombings, while another seven blew themselves up on April 3 when police were closing in on them at an apartment in the Madrid suburb of Leganes.

They were the presumed perpetrators of the attacks.

A further seven suspects remain at large.


195 posted on 05/17/2004 3:56:24 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA

I wonder if the detained Bulgarian has been interrogated this past month? I wonder what techniques were used, and if they were helpful? I also wonder if he is a Muslim....


196 posted on 05/17/2004 3:57:43 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA

To be a "struggling lawyer" in modern America means not focusing enough on one's practice.

Our dear Mr. Mayfield appears to have been preoccupied with other, extralegal matters.


197 posted on 05/17/2004 5:19:49 PM PDT by Imal (Revenge is a dish best served often.)
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To: blam

ping -- more updated info here


198 posted on 05/17/2004 6:15:57 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
"ping -- more updated info here"

Thanks.

199 posted on 05/17/2004 6:59:43 PM PDT by blam
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