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Fingerprint links Oregon with Spain
Oregonian Live ^
| May 08, 2004
| Marc Larabee, Steven Beaven, Kathleen Blythe, Bryan Denson and Lori Tobias
Posted on 05/08/2004 2:36:59 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Thanks for the ping.
"He has nothing to do with terrorists. He's a lawyer."
Okay...
To: norcalvet
Good questions, and we can only guess re the answers.
My first feelings re him being monitored was that he might been a carrier pigeon for one of more of the Portland 7 like the female lawyer was in NYC. Her case is coming to trial this week.
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posted on
05/08/2004 4:34:39 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(FReep eye for the liberal lie or what left wing lies of the media will we expose today?)
To: MeekOneGOP
When I was a teenager, my Dad was in the jury in a Grand Jury Trial. We didn't see him for about 6 weeks during the witness phase. He never told us what he heard and apparently a lot of people plead guilty to avoid a trial.
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posted on
05/08/2004 4:36:52 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(FReep eye for the liberal lie or what left wing lies of the media will we expose today?)
To: Shermy
Shermy, you might be interested in this interchange.
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posted on
05/08/2004 4:40:32 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(FReep eye for the liberal lie or what left wing lies of the media will we expose today?)
To: Grampa Dave
Others who know Mayfield say he is a family man and struggling lawyer dedicated to building his practice.
Do they also say he's a MUSLIM CONVERT?
To: Grampa Dave
">>>A senior Spanish investigator told the Los Angeles Times three weeks ago that a fingerprint found in the investigation of the train bombings resembled the fingerprint of a man described as a "U.S. military veteran" wanted by U.S. agents in connection with Islamic terrorism.
In subsequent days, two high-ranking Spanish police officials and a U.S. law enforcement official confirmed to The Times that the lead, involving a U.S. veteran connected to Al Qaeda, was being pursued. The veteran was someone who had been under investigation by U.S. agents for some time, the investigators said...."
Hmmm...maybe the reason for the FBI "concern" about a leak going public, and their early arrest of Mayfield, came from the Spanish side.
"...like the female lawyer was in NYC. Her case is coming to trial this week..."
Rally? What was her name again?
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posted on
05/08/2004 4:50:27 PM PDT
by
Shermy
To: Grampa Dave
"The American has the profile of an expert who could have supervised the bomb-making," a high-ranking Spanish police official said.Have there been any domestic bombing incidences tied to radicals in Portland? ELF, etc.? I am still incredibly curious to know if B. Mayfield's connection is more than just Islamic, perhaps radical left/Socialist? Anyone know his political affiliations?
To: ETERNAL WARMING
They don't cover that factor, even though it was very important to him.
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posted on
05/08/2004 4:51:56 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(FReep eye for the liberal lie or what left wing lies of the media will we expose today?)
To: Diddle E. Squat; SAMWolf; B Knotts; dixiechick2000; AuntB; blackie
"Have there been any domestic bombing incidences tied to radicals in Portland? ELF, etc.? I am still incredibly curious to know if B. Mayfield's connection is more than just Islamic, perhaps radical left/Socialist? Anyone know his political affiliations?"
I believe there have been a lot of fire bombings and arson connected with the ELF's. I don't know of any sophisticated bombing done in Oregon or Washington.
Maybe some of the Oregonians have an answer.
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posted on
05/08/2004 4:54:58 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(FReep eye for the liberal lie or what left wing lies of the media will we expose today?)
To: oceanview
Not when the bag is in a Fed Ex or UPS box.
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posted on
05/08/2004 4:56:03 PM PDT
by
gdc61
To: norcalvet
I'll accept the chance that you're right. I would counter with the idea that no matter who is in office, the investigation might be compromised internally anyway by a Muslim sympathizer.
I believe there is a vested interest in making the Madrid bombing not Al-Quaeda but "merely" Muslim copycats (which to me is actually scarier, but somehow for the rest of the world it isn't-how many guys like the LAX killer might just "go off' one day on Jihad?).
We'll see.
To: Grampa Dave
I did read about the connection to the Portland 7. Apparently he was defending Jeffery Leon Battle in a child custody case. Although it sounds like the Spanish felt that his military background and their idea that he fit the profile of a controller or trainer of sorts indicated that he may have had a very significant, perhaps leadership role.
With all these details slowly filtering out, I get the same old familiar feeling I get with a lot of these questionable characters. "Oh, by the way, he's muslim...and he's linked to the Portland 7...and he was the lawyer for one of them...and he was in the miltary...and at Ft. Lewis...and his wife is from Egypt...and he was already under investigation by the FBI for another matter...and..." Jeez, what else is going to pop up? Is the press afraid of what it will imply if they put all this info in the same place where it is easier to connect the dots? (please excuse yet one more rhetorical question)
To: Grampa Dave
Aa far as I know they've all been ELF and ALF firebombings up here, no Arab Terrorist ties that have been reported.
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posted on
05/08/2004 5:00:10 PM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(I looked into my family tree and found out I was a sap.)
To: Shermy
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posted on
05/08/2004 5:01:57 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(FReep eye for the liberal lie or what left wing lies of the media will we expose today?)
To: norcalvet
I believe that the editors don't want everything in one story.
This way they can spread it out and say that they covered the story.
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posted on
05/08/2004 5:03:22 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(FReep eye for the liberal lie or what left wing lies of the media will we expose today?)
To: All
I'm out of here until probably Monday.
This evening I'm taking my trophy bride to a formal dinner.
Tomorrow is Mother's day with our grandkids and their parents,our children.
Take care and expose the devils.
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posted on
05/08/2004 5:04:51 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(FReep eye for the liberal lie or what left wing lies of the media will we expose today?)
To: litany_of_lies
You may be correct, I certainly don't know. If the leak was due to Muslim or Leftist folks, they sure screwed over Mr. Mayfield. Thanks to the leak (if not to his own shenanigans), this guy is going to be in custody for quite some time as he is now undeniably a flight risk.
To: Grampa Dave
I suspect you are right. The reasons why they might do that are disturbing.
To: Grampa Dave
"He has nothing to do with Spain," Bill Mayfield said. "He has nothing to do with terrorists. He's a lawyer." Where does one start after one is able to stop laughing and wipe the tears from one's eyes?
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posted on
05/08/2004 5:10:17 PM PDT
by
Pharmboy
(History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
To: norcalvet
"With all these details slowly filtering out, I get the same old familiar feeling I get with a lot of these questionable characters. "Oh, by the way, he's muslim...and he's linked to the Portland 7...and he was the lawyer for one of them...and he was in the miltary...and at Ft. Lewis...and his wife is from Egypt...and he was already under investigation by the FBI for another matter...and..." Jeez, what else is going to pop up? Is the press afraid of what it will imply if they put all this info in the same place where it is easier to connect the dots? (please excuse yet one more rhetorical question)" You get it. (I think most people do...but, the press won't say it.)
All they want to say is what a 'sweet boy' he is and bad ol' Ashcroft and Bush are out of control.
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posted on
05/08/2004 5:19:29 PM PDT
by
blam
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