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Esteemed journalist lectures on ethics (L.A. TIMES EDITOR WARNS: Rise of 'Pseudo-Journalism')
Oregon Daily Emerald ^ | 5/09/04 | Ayisha Yahya

Posted on 05/09/2004 9:00:58 AM PDT by Vision

The media industry has been infested by the rise of pseudo-journalists who go against journalism's long tradition to serve the public with accurate information, Los Angeles Times Editor John S. Carroll told a packed room in the Gerlinger Lounge on Thursday. Carroll delivered the annual Ruhl Lecture, titled "The Wolf in Reporter's Clothing: The Rise of Pseudo-Journalism in America." The lecture was sponsored by the School of Journalism and Communication.

"All over the country there are offices that look like newsrooms and there are people in those offices that look for all the world just like journalists, but they are not practicing journalism," he said. "They regard the audience with a cold cynicism. They are practicing something I call a pseudo-journalism, and they view their audience as something to be manipulated."

In a scathing critique of Fox News and some talk show hosts, such as Bill O'Reilly, Carroll said they were a "different breed of journalists" who misled their audience while claiming to inform them. He said they did not fit into the long legacy of journalists who got their facts right and respected and cared for their audiences.

Carroll cited a study released last year that showed Americans had three main misconceptions about Iraq: That weapons of mass destruction had been found, a connection between al-Qaeda and Iraq had been demonstrated and that the world approved of U.S intervention in Iraq. He said 80 percent of people who primarily got their news from Fox believed at least one of the misconceptions. He said the figure was more than 57 percentage points higher than people who get their news from public news broadcasting.

"How in the world could Fox have left its listeners so deeply in the dark?" Carroll asked.

He added that a difference exists between journalism and propaganda.

As he addressed some of the hard hits journalism has taken in the field of ethics, Carroll noted that anyone could be a journalist because, unlike other fields, journalism had no qualification tests, boards to censure misconduct or a universally accepted set of standards.

However, Carroll said a great depth of feeling remains on the importance of ethics that is centered around newspapers' sense of responsibilities to their readers.

"I've learned that these ethics are deeply believed in even though in some places they are not even written down," he said. When ethical guidelines are ignored, their proponents respond with 'tribal ferocity,'" he added.

"If you stray badly from these rules, you will pay dearly," he said.

He said while much media has ended up "in the gutter," the L.A. Times has a different philosophy and was dedicated to taking the "high road."

"I do think that a lot of newspaper people have made a lot of strategic mistakes," he said. "They cut back space on things people really need to know."

Carroll, whose career as a journalist spans 40 years, joined the L.A. Times in 2000, according to the paper's Web site. Under his leadership, the paper earned five Pulitzer Prizes this year.

Tim Gleason, dean of the SOJC, said Carroll is a "journalist's journalist."

"As an editor he cares deeply about the integrity of the profession and he believes that news, real news is the heart and soul of the business of journalism," Gleason said as he introduced Carroll.

University graduate student Mose Mosely had similar sentiments. He said he admired Carroll not only for his vast experience around the country, but also for his consistent commitment to his ideals.

"The depth of his integrity is very impressive," Mosely said.

Bobbie Willis, a staff writer for the Eugene Weekly, said she felt Carroll brought up some relevant issues in today's media environment.

"It really made me take a look at my career as a journalist," she said.

Willis said she understood Carroll's concerns about the state of journalism nationally, but added that many of the journalists she has encountered were very committed to accurate and ethical reporting.

Carroll had a few words of advise for student journalists; he told them to pick their boss carefully.

"Don't be lured by the money or the big name of the employer," he said, adding that journalists should not allow their integrity to be compromised by unscrupulous employers.

"Don't be a piano player in a whorehouse," he said.


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1 posted on 05/09/2004 9:00:58 AM PDT by Vision
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To: Vision
http://www.dailyemerald.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/05/07/409bbfc0d5b00
2 posted on 05/09/2004 9:01:50 AM PDT by Vision (Always Faithful)
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To: Vision
Now that's comedy!
3 posted on 05/09/2004 9:03:37 AM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: Vision
The LA Times warning about Pseudo-Journalism? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA. MUHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. TEEEHEEHEEHEEETEEHEEEHEEHEEE. HOHOHOHOHOHOH HAHAHAHAA.
4 posted on 05/09/2004 9:04:43 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: Vision
"All over the country there are offices that look like newsrooms and there are people in those offices that look for all the world just like journalists, but they are not practicing journalism," he said. "They regard the audience with a cold cynicism. They are practicing something I call a pseudo-journalism, and they view their audience as something to be manipulated."

But not us, no sir!

He said while much media has ended up "in the gutter," the L.A. Times has a different philosophy and was dedicated to taking the "high road."

5 posted on 05/09/2004 9:05:16 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Vision
I wonder what John thinks about that pseudo-newsroom at Times Mirror Square?
6 posted on 05/09/2004 9:05:37 AM PDT by RichInOC (The Los Angeles Times...not even pretending to be non-partisan anymore.)
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To: Vision
"Don't be a piano player in a whorehouse," he said....

I thought the line went, "Don't tell my mama I'm a staff writer for the Times...she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse."

7 posted on 05/09/2004 9:07:15 AM PDT by RichInOC (The Los Angeles Times...not even pretending to be non-partisan anymore.)
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To: Vision
Did they use the last race for CA governor as an example of poor journalism?
8 posted on 05/09/2004 9:07:20 AM PDT by gbaker
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To: Vision
You know, this sounds like a typical saturday in san francsico homosexual bar, with some of the older participants paying for the action.

But then what do I know, maybe the rest of the world doesn't want to be part of the homosexual san francisco party scene.

I know the tribal elders would appreciate the lessons are homosexual friends in san francsion can teach them

Love these editorials who don't like their diversity agenda exported to the musselman.

9 posted on 05/09/2004 9:07:39 AM PDT by dts32041 ("Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity" George W Bush 28 Jan 2003)
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To: Vision
What, did he look around the LA TIMES newsroom??
10 posted on 05/09/2004 9:08:05 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Hey, I wouldn't touch Camryn Manheim's uterus on a bet.)
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To: Vision
Say, isn't this the same L.A. Times that tried to sink Schwarzenegger at the last minute with the unsubstantiated groping slander?

That's what these newspapers want - a monopoly on who hears what, when. Someday they'll get it, too, with the rise of so-called "campaign finance reform" and public financing of campaigns.

11 posted on 05/09/2004 9:08:18 AM PDT by Honcho Bongs
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To: Vision
Pot, kettle, black.
12 posted on 05/09/2004 9:08:44 AM PDT by VadeRetro (Ein prosit! Ein prosit, Gemuetlichkeit!)
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To: Vision
Frankly, I prefer a journalist- or anyone else- who is honestly partisan. If you know where they stand, you can make allowances.

Years ago I did some research on my city's papers near the close of the 1800's, and they were nearly rabid in their positions.

13 posted on 05/09/2004 9:09:27 AM PDT by backhoe (--30--)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
The LA Times warning about Pseudo-Journalism?

I considered it more of a threat.

14 posted on 05/09/2004 9:11:09 AM PDT by Petronski (John Kerry's shabby lies make me very cranky.)
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To: Vision
L.A. Times has a different philosophy and was dedicated to taking the "high road."

Gee, that must be true, because he said it. If all I had to go by were objective reality, I'd come to an altogether different conclusion.
15 posted on 05/09/2004 9:11:17 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Uday and Qusay are ead-day)
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To: Vision
Ah yes!

Circulation is down, way down, so let's go out and accuse those with high ratings of pseudo journalism.

Consider the source!
16 posted on 05/09/2004 9:13:08 AM PDT by Columbine (Bush '04 - Owens '08)
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To: Vision
There are journalists unfamiliar with irony, as well.
17 posted on 05/09/2004 9:14:55 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: Vision
I never heard on FoxNews that WMDs were found, just evidence that they at one time existed.

Maybe people who watch FoxNews also have ideas of their own, and logically have come to the conclusion that Saddam has SOME connection to terrorists.

This sounds like sour grapes to me.
18 posted on 05/09/2004 9:19:05 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: Vision
Kettle, meet pot (not you, Vision)

Sounds like the folks at the LAT are getting nervous about the rise of the alternative news media: talk radio and internet news. How can they - Traditional media - continue to be gatekeepers of all this propaganda information when the people can get their news from somewhere else without the slanted filter? How appalling that the people in the community use their god-given brains, and decide what news they do and don't want to know. How terrible that the people want to know more than what is being spoonfed to them, and what other choices they are entertaining.

The tradional media business model is broken, and they can either reform - by getting back to what journalism should be, which is reporting the news, rather than opinionating and editorializing what they report, or they die a humliating death. The liberals and marxists won't let that happen.

19 posted on 05/09/2004 9:19:37 AM PDT by Maigrey (Member of the War Babies' Live Thread Free Republic reporting service)
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To: Vision
Gee...is this the same John Carroll who issued a staff memo in which he faulted a story by reporter Scott Gold for his liberal bias.

From the WSJ: "Mr. Gold's article was about a law in Texas requiring that women seeking abortions receive counseling on the purported link between abortion and breast cancer. Mr. Carroll faulted Mr. Gold for using the slanted phrase "so-called counseling"; for failing to cite any scientist who believes there is a link between abortion and breast cancer (a minority view, to be sure); and for describing a legislator who backed the law as having "a professional background in property management," while making no similarly disparaging characterizations of its opponents.

Explaining that he was "concerned about the perception--and the occasional reality--that the Times is a liberal, 'politically correct' newspaper," Mr. Carroll declared: "Occasionally we prove our critics right. We did so today." The Texas law may be misguided, but Mr. Gold should have stuck to the facts and let readers form their own opinions."
20 posted on 05/09/2004 9:26:01 AM PDT by cwb (Liberals: Always fighting for social justice in all the wrong places.)
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To: Vision
What a load of crap. I'm surprise he didn't go after Drudge. What he is so upset about is competition.

It like he's saying, "I'm right, high, and almighty. Those riff-raff there. Pay no attention. They're dangerous, subversive, bad people."
21 posted on 05/09/2004 9:26:20 AM PDT by playball0
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To: Vision
The word integrity is applied to this idiot several times. I've heard him on talk radio, and he seems intelligent enough, but he's in serious denial. He edits at the slimeball LAT, which sinks his credibility outright, and has the balls to point the finger? LOL.

If Carroll had any integrity at all he would QUIT the horrible Times.
23 posted on 05/09/2004 9:27:06 AM PDT by moodyskeptic (weekend warrior in the culture war)
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To: Vision
John S Carroll you're so full of sh*t you should be declared a WMD.
24 posted on 05/09/2004 9:28:47 AM PDT by listenhillary (The media and DNC have joined the terrorists and declared war on the USA.)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh; Vision
ROFL....The LA SLIMES attacking Fox News....See this:

Newspapers See Danger in Text Messaging ^

The elites are getting busy , only they can certify that the NEWS is true!!!

25 posted on 05/09/2004 9:29:18 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Maigrey
You are right!

They are very nervous about text messaging and the new cell phones with cameras, etc.

See the story linked at post #25.
26 posted on 05/09/2004 9:34:40 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: listenhillary
John S Carroll you're so full of sh*t you should be declared a WMD.

Now that's funny
27 posted on 05/09/2004 9:38:34 AM PDT by Vision (Always Faithful)
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To: RichInOC
"Don't be a piano player..."

My first thought was the lamestream in the DNC.

The local Gannett rag cycles editorials from other papers. I usually can pick out the LAT's before I get to the bottom "From the LAT".

Another "Do as I say, not as I do". He must really be ticked off not being able to have torpedoed Schwarzeneggar, or make an appreciable dent in Bush.

What was the LAT's (and Mr. Carroll's) position of sexually abusive predators in the White House a few years back?

Carroll is desparately trying to remain relevant after the new media (aka pseudo-journalists) have given more truthful,
accurate and useful information and news in its short existence than Carroll has over his career.

He's green with envy and deeply saddened at the loss of lamestream power.

28 posted on 05/09/2004 9:39:42 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: backhoe
Get an old American history book which shows the political cartoons which ran about Lincoln during the Civil War. They were rabidly anti-Lincoln in some cases (as I recall) showing him as a monkey or ape. But, to the best of my knowledge they never said that they were objective.

The situation that we have now is that newspapers claim they are "objective" when they are just as rabid, in fact some of them froth at the mouth at the mention of President Bush.

Another situation which has evolved during the past 40 to 60 years, is that the journalist (although holding a 4 year college degree) have escaped being educated. It is as if they actually tried not to learn anything. As an example, recall the questions that the correspondents asked General Schwartzkopf at his briefings. They were less than infantile, they showed no grasp of the subject materials. Now, it is people of this caliber which try to present their view point to us in today's newspapers.

29 posted on 05/09/2004 9:43:21 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (The truth will out!)
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To: Maigrey
You know, before Internet, blogging, FR, et al, going to get a arm load of the papers was my idea of heaven. I still have the habit, but less so. Now adays, I often don't even buy a paper, just go online. If I do buy papers, it is often after I have been online and it seems as if there isn't anything in that days paper worth reading. Furthermore, buying different papers is stale since so many of them are just wire service clipping the same articles, with the same boring lefty, and some times right wing columnists. I suspect the papers know that behind us is a young demographic age group that is not now, and will not buy newspapers. I think they are in a death spiral. Losing readers throughout the industry, declining revenues, work staff that is entrenched, stale, featherbedding and hopeing to hang on to the pension, and not attracting new talent. Kind of like the trend with CBS,NBC,ABC new viewers.

Good.

30 posted on 05/09/2004 9:45:21 AM PDT by Leisler (The Democrats. The nation's oldest organized crime family.)
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To: Vision
He said the figure was more than 57 percentage points higher than people who get their news from public news broadcasting.

I get my news from a variety of sources including NPR, FreeRepublic and even the Lamestream media. To suggest "public news broadcasting" has a monopoly on the "truth" is odious.

31 posted on 05/09/2004 9:48:13 AM PDT by Wheee The People (Oo ee oo ah ah, ting tang, walla-walla bing bang. Oo ee oo ah ah, ting tang, walla-walla bing bang!)
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To: Vision
This constitutes an admission of the depth to which far-left bias saturates traditional media outlets.
32 posted on 05/09/2004 9:49:59 AM PDT by thoughtomator (yesterday Kabul, today Baghdad, tomorrow Damascus)
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To: Wheee The People
The one time I was involved in a major news story - the WTC bombing in 1993 - the major media, especially the NY Times and CNN, lied through their teeth about it for three days straight before they admitted the truth.

Why then should I take seriously their reports of events that I had no personal first-hand information about?
33 posted on 05/09/2004 9:51:47 AM PDT by thoughtomator (yesterday Kabul, today Baghdad, tomorrow Damascus)
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To: Vision
In psychological terms this article is called "projection". The evil the liberal media is guilty of they are projecting on the conservative media or their competition.

The only way they can win is to frame the argument that the conservative media is guilty of hate crimes, or somehow paint them as violating ethics of journalism as THEY define it.

The serious part is that lib media is seriously at war with America and our constitutional system. They are seeking to tear down the freedoms, the economy, the opposition party by whatever means necessary to accomplish their ends...control.

Control of the intellectual elites. They know what is best for us. They know how our money is best to be spent. They know what we should drive, where we should go. They presume to know how best to conduct foreign affairs. They presume to know best how to conduct spy work by making all our actions and intents open to our enemies. We are too stupid to know how to live. And if we presume to do so, we should be locked up in prison.

We have allowed the liberals to steal a march on us and dictate the terms of the debate, to define the meaning of the terms. It is high time to assert the voice of logic, reason and conservative values in this country and deal with zero tolerance any attempt to silence that voice.

This is my rant for today. Imperfectly expressed as it is, I still feel deeply that we are in a serious civil war, bloodless perhaps, but only temporarily so.

34 posted on 05/09/2004 9:57:01 AM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals are the real Mind-Numbed Robots - No Brains, No Guts, No Character...Just hate)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Hehehehehe I'm thrilled to see the mainstream media people getting panicked over the emergence of the new technologies, and how they are proliferating the change in how news is disseminated and spread.

As a trained journalist, I'm thrilled to see the old media get smacked around for being so "old news."

The last time I actually looked a traditional newspaper (local rag) almost every article I read was informationally out of date for me - anywhere from 24 to 36 hours old! (Can you tell I'm an info junkie!) This includes sports and national news. It was amazing to see the "Age" of the articles, and the funny thing is that some of the news was "repackaged" to reflect the paper's agenda. Amazing.

Once the print media realizes that they cannot keep up in the changing news cycles - why print an article about an event that happened 20 hours ago when everyone else has covered it - when you don't do the one thing that seperates the print media from the internet and television media - better in-depth reporting. However, most print journalists are not equipted to do this kind of reporting any more. Most are adept at regurgutating a press release from a PR or adverting service.

What will be needed is a change of the business model - where the papers (I don't have any experience in television, so I can't comment) do a different niche of reporting, or they stagnate and die. Most will stagnate and die. Only a few will have the vision to evolve to survive.

35 posted on 05/09/2004 9:57:26 AM PDT by Maigrey (Member of the War Babies' Live Thread Free Republic reporting service)
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To: Vision; Egon; Eb Wilson
When I read the catch-phrase "Pseudo-journalism," I was ready for some real insight, for I think that pseudo-journalism is very nearly all that is out there nowadays. Then I realized it was just one of the King Kongs of pseudo-journalism pounding his chest and pointing at others' attempts at real journalism. Honcho Bongs had a good point: they want a monopoly on the propoganda.
36 posted on 05/09/2004 9:58:39 AM PDT by RhoTheta
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To: Vision
That's why they were so angry about Drudge, who broke the media conspiracy of silence about clinton.

Drudge's crime, in their eyes, was to tell the truth without a license. He failed to respect the privilege of REAL newspaper reporters, which is to lie by license.

The existence of people outside the control of what J. Orlin Grabbe has called a "priestly caste of editors" has ruined the worshipful position reporters used to hold in our society, as purveyors of the truth. Now more and more people know that they lie, and it's folks like Drudge and Fox News who make their failings evident.
37 posted on 05/09/2004 10:04:37 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: bvw
Good thread for your list of 10 commandments!
38 posted on 05/09/2004 10:23:51 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Vision; *CCRM
Posted to *CCRM
39 posted on 05/09/2004 10:28:19 AM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: Leisler
I was in j-school at the eruption of the internet age, and it was interesting to see how the information was being formulated and packaged. The professor I had (who is now an assistant professor at Ole Miss) who insisted on us learning all the old DOS protocols. Alas, now, most of those things are archaic, and .html is the way to go.

What I find now is that the new kids who are going into it - and being taught by the old librals who are entrenched in the j-schools are being met with resistance from these more conservative kids who, tho willing to work their ways up the feeding chain, aren't willing to espouse anything but what they are being taught - namely, regurgitate what's already been written. Those who are bucking the trade are writing for the new media, while the old reporters are "dying" off.

The few that are holding on for dear life are turning off the kids, who know that those who are hanging on by a thread, are espousing their own agenda.

(I would also get a mound of newspapers, but I am also a "compassionate conservative": someone who hates wasting paper, so I read my news online (to keep the paper waste down.) tee hee!

40 posted on 05/09/2004 10:32:31 AM PDT by Maigrey (Member of the War Babies' Live Thread Free Republic reporting service)
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To: Vision
Someone put CoolAid in this guys beer-bong.
41 posted on 05/09/2004 10:34:58 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Maigrey
Maigrey, I read your post here with considerable interest. You are very correct, there is a shifting paradigm happening in media today.

I recall a sci-fi movie, can't recall the name of it, maybe it was Minority Report, where it showed people sitting on a subway train reading "newspapers" that were changing articles and updating even as they read them. Really, we have that today.

With the advent of computers, the internet, PDA's and notebook computers, we have the capability now of getting the "real time" news on the fly where ever we are, whenever we want. Newspapers??? A waste of time for the most part.

I personally have a PDA with a Palm OS connected with PCS Vision phone service that, for example, allows me to access even Free Republic whenever I want it. It is a bit slow, but that will increase with time as technology improves. I still get plenty of FR info when I want it though.

42 posted on 05/09/2004 10:37:09 AM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals are the real Mind-Numbed Robots - No Brains, No Guts, No Character...Just hate)
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To: Vision
This is so funny I can hardly type. These people ACTUALLY believe they are good journalists and the other guy is wrong. Hey DUMMY, maybe the reason we all go to FOX is because we know they are telling the truth and the rest of you guys are lying through your teeth to push your agenda.
43 posted on 05/09/2004 10:43:45 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
Journalists today are ignorant and incapable of reasonable, original thought. Most of them entered journalism with the idea of emulating Woodward/Bernstein, and can only regurgitate the statements of self-styled "experts" who represent the journalist's point of view. There is no attempt to research or study an issue, just the liberal party line. Corrections and outright retractions of printed "facts" are buried on page 54 of Section E.

For example, on May 5th, ABC Radio News was reporting that Americans should consider Cinco De Mayo important because if the Mexicans had not been fighting the French invaders for their freedom, the French would have sent soldiers to help the Confederacy. As any student of history knows, this is absolutely false. Rather, if it were not for the Civil War, Napolean III would have not dared violate the Monroe Doctrine by setting up a proxy government in Mexico. This outright lie was probably provided by a pro-immigration group such as MECHA to a gullible reporter.
44 posted on 05/09/2004 10:43:55 AM PDT by KAUAIBOUND (Hawaii - a Socialist paradise)
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To: Vision
Carroll's remarks are outrageous. This is the guy whose paper once titled its letters section, "Bush or Bin Laden: Who is the Enemy?, published a front-page article about the assasination of a Hamas leader without once describing him as a terrorist, prints front-page pictures of homosexuals kissing each other, treats prisoner abuse in Iraq like the Holocaust, repeatedly referred to Gary Condit as a "conservative Congressman" instead of a Democrat, and calls illegal aliens "undocumented workers." The L.A. Times is a liberal tabloid, and Carroll is just covering his tail.
45 posted on 05/09/2004 10:46:46 AM PDT by Holden Magroin
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To: Vision
Well, I guess I better say a big THANK YOU Mr. Carrol, your moronic putz. Us underlings would have never figured any of this out ourselves. Let's see...Basic Negotiating skills 101... When going downs in flames in a debate on ethics, accuse the opponent of the things you do yourself. I think we now have the whole picture... and we feel your pain...
46 posted on 05/09/2004 10:53:47 AM PDT by PushinTin
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To: Maigrey
I once vaguely read that progress comes not from persuasion, because those that hold the old, failing positions are personally, professionally and mentally entrenched and it is only when they die off, does the new theory becomes accepted. This human age phenomena is commonly noted in histories of the sciences, and I don't see why it wouldn't be in other professions as it seems to have a basic human ring of truth in our own observation of our fellow species members.

As to your comments on young conservatives, I can imagine. I attended UMass and felt completely isolated in the late '70's. However since then I have come to realize it wasn't my values or political views, it was just me personally. :)
47 posted on 05/09/2004 10:54:33 AM PDT by Leisler (The Democrats. The nation's oldest organized crime family.)
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To: el_texicano
I find that the problem (a la horse driven carriages v. horseless buggies) is that the medium of print news is sooooo permanent, where the breaking news that the 24 hour news channels have is ever evolving and morphing.

Don't get me wrong. There is a place for print news - setting the record straight with in-depth investigation of the news - but they just can't compete with the tv news that can get the news out faster, and with less lag in disseminating the news.

However, there is a catch with this. The TV media also have a weakness: the timeframe they have to work in. No real news story worth its salt in 24 hour coverage can cover a news event with the depth needed for some news stories. They have so long - maybe 60 seconds if that! - to convey the news before moving on to the next story. (And, throw in 12 minutes of advertising per thirty minutes to cover costs) and that doesn't leave much time for many a news articles.

This is where the new media can really excell and explode. They have the versatility of tv news - like the breaking news threads on here - with the ability to also provide updates and in depth reporting of the news, along with the breadth of articles that can be covered. But even then, there is a catch.

News articles on the internet have a habit of being "modified" when the need arises. Sure, this isn't the case with all news media, but some unethical news service "could" revise the articles (and it not be noticed unless the person reading it would do some digging.) to slant the record.

How will this affect the new media? It remains to be seen.

48 posted on 05/09/2004 10:59:26 AM PDT by Maigrey (Member of the War Babies' Live Thread Free Republic reporting service)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Vision
The Ten Commandments of Modern Copyright
  1. Thou mayest not question the word of Thy Media.

  2. Thou mayest not repeat the word of thy Media so as to ask questions about it.

  3. Thou mayest not even suggest what the word of thy Media was so as to question it. This is related to Look and Feel.

  4. Freedom of the Press is only available to corporations who offer sacrifices to the Gods in the Senate.

  5. Freedom of Speech requires strict Government Licensing and Regulation.

  6. Thou mayest NOT ever mention thy Gods of Senate and House by name in the months preceeding the great polls.

  7. Exceprting is theft.

  8. Thou MUST bow before the Anchor-gods of Major Network News daily.

  9. Political commentary is Murder by Hate Speech if it questions the expansion of the state or the diefication of victims.

  10. Thou must not even think negative thoughts about great social policies.

49 posted on 05/09/2004 11:04:34 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Vision
So, is this the same LA Times that ran this image... as a "real" photo and got busted?

Here is the undoctored one...

Does anyone remember that? I am fairly sure it was the LA Times.

50 posted on 05/09/2004 11:06:30 AM PDT by I_saw_the_light ("George Bush makes me proud to be an American"-Thomas Hamill)
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