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Bush's Backing of Rumsfeld Shocks and Angers Arabs
Reuters ^ | 5.10.04

Posted on 05/10/2004 5:20:20 PM PDT by ambrose

Bush's Backing of Rumsfeld Shocks and Angers Arabs

Mon May 10, 4:52 PM ET Add World - Reuters to My Yahoo!

By Firouz Sedarat

DUBAI (Reuters) - Arab commentators reacted with shock and disbelief on Monday over President Bush (news - web sites)'s robust backing of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld against calls for his resignation.

Critics had called for him to quit after the furor over the abuse of Iraqi prisoners but analysts, editors and ordinary Arabs were united in their condemnation of Bush who said the United States owed Rumsfeld a "debt of gratitude."

"After the torture and vile acts by the American army, President Bush goes out and congratulates Rumsfeld. It's just incredible. I am in total shock," said Omar Belhouchet, editor of the influential Algerian national daily El Watan.

"Bush's praise for Rumsfeld will discredit the United States...and further damage its reputation, which is already at a historic low in the Arab world," he added.

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1 posted on 05/10/2004 5:20:21 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: ambrose
DARN! And just when they were starting to like us, too.

Qwinn
2 posted on 05/10/2004 5:21:56 PM PDT by Qwinn
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To: ambrose
Good ol' Rotters; give the article a misleading title.
3 posted on 05/10/2004 5:21:58 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: ambrose
...I am in total shock," said Omar Belhouchet, editor of the influential Algerian national daily El Watan.

hmmm? I wonder how far Algeria is from Casablanca?

4 posted on 05/10/2004 5:22:06 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: ambrose
Part of Shock and Awe Baby!
5 posted on 05/10/2004 5:22:20 PM PDT by Trapper (Max's better half wasn't mulch of a help.)
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To: Qwinn

6 posted on 05/10/2004 5:22:21 PM PDT by ambrose (AP Headline: "Kerry Says His 'Family' Owns SUV, Not He")
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To: ambrose
Leave it to Reuters....a low form of journalism.
7 posted on 05/10/2004 5:22:40 PM PDT by NetValue (They're not Americans, they're democrats.)
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To: ambrose
I love it!
8 posted on 05/10/2004 5:22:59 PM PDT by Texasforever (The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
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To: All
The Arabs can go pound sand if they don't like Bush backing Rummy.
9 posted on 05/10/2004 5:23:19 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: ambrose
More likely...it angers the media
10 posted on 05/10/2004 5:23:33 PM PDT by cwb (Liberals: Always fighting for social justice in all the wrong places.)
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To: ambrose
WWWaaaaa da wittle Aywabs don luv us no mo!!!
Boo freakin' whooo!.
I don't love them either.
11 posted on 05/10/2004 5:24:05 PM PDT by cavtrooper21 (Hooah??? HOOOAAHHHH!!!!!)
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To: ambrose
"Arab commentators reacted with shock and disbelief on Monday over President Bush (news - web sites)'s robust backing of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld against calls for his resignation."

It's a good sign when our enemies are unhappy with us.
12 posted on 05/10/2004 5:24:35 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: ambrose
"Bush's Backing of Rumsfeld Shocks and Angers Arabs"

And a lot of other people I could care less about.

13 posted on 05/10/2004 5:25:17 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: ambrose
Leave it to Roto-Rueters to be working in the sewer
14 posted on 05/10/2004 5:25:41 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Our Injured Soldiers at Walter Reed Have Yet to be Visited by John Kerry. What's he Afraid of?)
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To: COEXERJ145
What doesn't make Arabs angry? They have been angry since the 7th Century.
15 posted on 05/10/2004 5:25:54 PM PDT by AngieGOP
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To: cwb
The media here, too. The regular folks I've been talking to, right and left, don't care much. The dems aren't going to get the mileage out of this that they thought. Blowback.
16 posted on 05/10/2004 5:25:55 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: ambrose
I think Reuter's is full of fertilizer-- Grade A, fresh camel dung.
17 posted on 05/10/2004 5:26:07 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: ambrose
Bush's Backing of Rumsfeld Shocks and Angers Arabs

Two words: Who...........cares........?

18 posted on 05/10/2004 5:26:08 PM PDT by EggsAckley (........"I looked out and saw rifles everywhere. That's when I felt safe." .........)
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To: ambrose
They better be careful:

Shock and anger can turn into shock and awe in a heartbeat.

19 posted on 05/10/2004 5:26:18 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: ambrose
Wrong headline. Here's the real one:

Bush's Backing of Rumsfeld Shocks and Angers the BBC

20 posted on 05/10/2004 5:26:26 PM PDT by noDixieCan
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To: ambrose
Arab commentators reacted with shock and disbelief on Monday over President Bush (news - web sites)'s robust backing of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld against calls for his resignation.

Screw their shock and disbelief.

21 posted on 05/10/2004 5:26:43 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: ambrose; dighton; general_re
Firouz Sedarat

Pronounced "Said-a-rat"

22 posted on 05/10/2004 5:27:20 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: ambrose
Why don't I hear the Arab commentators expressing outrage at the real atrocities being committed by the Palis?
23 posted on 05/10/2004 5:27:22 PM PDT by rogator
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To: monkeywrench
I've not had much of a chance to discuss this, of late. However, I have found it more than just a little coincidental that all of this has surfaced so soon after the media itching for W to admit mistakes and issue apologies.
24 posted on 05/10/2004 5:27:34 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: ambrose
I'm shocked that so many people can't think for themselves and HAVE to come to some idiotic Pavlovian cattle call five times a day.

The only mistake Rumsfield and numerous other American politicans have made is not seeing Islam for what it has been for so many years and taking steps to protect this country from it. Islam is not an overnight sensation. People like Ted Kennedy, John McCain, Hillary Clinton, etc, etc,etc who are supposed to be some damn smart were not.

Stupid me, up until 9/11 I never payed attention to Islam. That changed. But our government should have known better and done something about it years ago!

25 posted on 05/10/2004 5:27:45 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (I'm isthisnickcool, and I approved this post!)
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To: ambrose
Arab commentators reacted

LOL! This is toooooo funny!

26 posted on 05/10/2004 5:28:39 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Politicians are interested in people. Not that this is always a virtue. Fleas are interested in dogs)
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To: ambrose

27 posted on 05/10/2004 5:29:08 PM PDT by leadpencil1
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To: ambrose
Well tough S**t!
28 posted on 05/10/2004 5:30:32 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - THE BEST GET BETTER)
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To: ambrose
Get over it.
29 posted on 05/10/2004 5:31:11 PM PDT by marty60
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To: ambrose
Keep an eye on Zogby's polls. Dollars to doughnuts they'll manage to show Bush dropping in popularity.
30 posted on 05/10/2004 5:32:25 PM PDT by Zechariah11 ("so they weighed for my hire thirty pieces of silver")
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To: Paul Atreides
That's not the only thing that's misleading...

Analysts have said the damage from images seen worldwide of U.S. soldiers abusing naked Iraqi prisoners in Abu Ghraib prison would be indelible, incalculable and a gift to al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

What people saw, they said, was the true image of the occupation: humiliation of an occupied people, contempt for Islam, sadism and racism.

U.S. calls for Arab retractions

The day after a WorldNetDaily report revealed that photos circulating in the Middle East that depict GI's raping Iraqi women were fake and had originated from pornography sites, the U.S. Embassy in Cairo issued a statement calling on Arab news outlets to publish retractions.

The embassy statement read, "We have done a thorough investigation of the origin of these photos and have conclusive evidence that they originated on a pornographic web site. They are clearly staged photos, done by actors, as the site itself states."

The Al Wafd newspaper published four photographs on the top of its front page that were alleged show American soldiers sexually abusing female prisoners in Iraq. Al Osboa and Al Mussawer published two of the same photos.

The U.S. Embassy called the publication of these pornographic photos, with headlines alleging the involvement of U.S. soldiers, a "fundamental violation of journalistic integrity," and stated that their publication needlessly inflamed an already heated atmosphere.


31 posted on 05/10/2004 5:32:49 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: ambrose
Oh well...I don't like them either....
32 posted on 05/10/2004 5:33:15 PM PDT by just me
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To: ambrose
"Roto-Reuters...that's the name...you just flush your troubles...down the drain...Roto-Reuters..."
33 posted on 05/10/2004 5:33:24 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: ambrose
On 5 November 1997, a court ruled renowned journalist Omar Belhouchet, editor-in-chief of the daily El Watan, would have to spend 22 months in prison for harming Algerian national security and the State. The sentence stemmed from statements he had made to the French media hinting that government officials may have been responsible for the murders of some journalists during the country’s civil war, between 1993 and 1996.
34 posted on 05/10/2004 5:33:44 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: ambrose
F#$K the ARABS ..... they're always pissed off or have their panties in a wad over something.
35 posted on 05/10/2004 5:34:21 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: isthisnickcool
Stupid me, up until 9/11 I never payed attention to Islam. That changed. But our government should have known better and done something about it years ago!

The 1993 WTC bombing could have been a wakeup call.

36 posted on 05/10/2004 5:34:48 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: Zechariah11
ELECTION 2004 Zogby: Kerry will win

Pollster points to 4 reasons he sees Democrat victory


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1133014/posts

37 posted on 05/10/2004 5:35:19 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: ambrose
"After the torture and vile acts by the American army, .... It's just incredible. I am in total shock,"

Even though this statement came from Omar the A-rab, it is nothing more than the same rants coming from the DemoRATS.



38 posted on 05/10/2004 5:35:30 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: monkeywrench
Commonly called the "Wellstone effect" by those outside official Democrat,socialist and media circles.
39 posted on 05/10/2004 5:35:30 PM PDT by sarasmom (Watching mainstream liberal media "news reports" will cause brain atrophy.)
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To: ambrose
"Bush's Backing of Rumsfeld Shocks and Angers Arabs"

Arabs are shocking to me also. The more I know about them - the less I care about what they think. They have perverted minds!

40 posted on 05/10/2004 5:35:36 PM PDT by LADY J
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To: ambrose
Never mind that a poll showed that 69% of Americans don't want him to resign. Same old song and dance about our image. Their "image" of America is the rest of it falling like the twin towers. Funny I can actually remember when I respected members of the press.

41 posted on 05/10/2004 5:35:39 PM PDT by PROUDAMREP (Will the dems apologize for undermining the war effort and harming our soldiers for political gain?)
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To: isthisnickcool
The only mistake Rumsfield and numerous other American politicans have made is not seeing Islam for what it has been...

Oh, Rummy knows, that's for sure. The problem is getting the rest of the country on board with it, and I can sense that the current campaign is about way more than just getting President Bush re-elected. I think the President's people can do the math, and see that Kerry is cooked in November, but now the goal is to get a mandate. The apologies, picture releases, and backing of Rumsfeld are all part of "playing" the fish before you reel him in.

42 posted on 05/10/2004 5:36:11 PM PDT by hunter112
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To: Paul Atreides
Admitting mistakes and issuing apologies fits all of their agendas. They'd have soundbytes for campaign ads and reparations for "torture victums". Not to mention the fact that the President got us out of that miserable international court, and they'd love to shame us to sign onto it, again. They'll be trying to tie the hands of our intelligence agencies before this is over.

Notice how the left has made a point of always insisting on apologies for slavery, etc.? I'd bet there's some treaty somewhere, that would give them some legal standing internationally anytime that's done. Even without the International court treaty. Very suspicious.

43 posted on 05/10/2004 5:36:24 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: rogator
Why don't I hear the Arab commentators expressing outrage at the real atrocities being committed by the Palis?

For the same reason leftist commentators in this country don't express outrage at the atrocities committed by the Palis.

45 posted on 05/10/2004 5:36:35 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: ambrose
It just doesn't get any worse, Peter. Not only is the Arab world but Eleanor Clift, Nina Totenberg and Al Hunt are all shocked and indignant.
46 posted on 05/10/2004 5:37:45 PM PDT by T'wit ("To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society" - Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: ambrose
"After the torture and vile acts by the American army, President Bush goes out and congratulates Rumsfeld. It's just incredible. I am in total shock," said Omar Belhouchet, editor of the influential Algerian national daily El Watan.

Did the DNC fax the Arab media their talking points?

47 posted on 05/10/2004 5:38:09 PM PDT by PogySailor (Proud member of the RAM)
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To: ambrose
The Arab commentators quoted in the article come to a grand total of five, plus one Englishman who's a professor at the London School of (Marxist) Economics. They all agree that Bush should have fired Rumsfeld.

It's like five Nazis, plus Lord Haw Haw, demanding that President Roosevelt fire General Patton in 1944.
48 posted on 05/10/2004 5:38:28 PM PDT by Argus
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To: ambrose
Bush's Backing of Rumsfeld Shocks and Angers Arabs

ALL of them apparently!!!!

As usual, the media speaks of "Arabs" as if they are a monolithic group which thinks exactly alike.

I'm no longer frustrated by it, I'm used to it by now.

49 posted on 05/10/2004 5:38:46 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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Bush's Backing of Rumsfeld Shocks and Angers Arabs

Not the one's who count. :^) The interview Rush read today from an Iraqi citizen regarding the abuse of the prisoners was TERRIFIC. This man's take...it is pretty cool to see democracy at work...wow...America really cares about how it's enemies are treated in their prisons....UNHEARD OF...after living for thirty years under Saddam....geeez...lots of us are having trouble understanding what all the fuss is about....

And this guy served in the Iraqi/ Iran war. Now owns a small cosmetic company and works for several firms helping to do work in Iraq as an interpreter.

50 posted on 05/10/2004 5:39:40 PM PDT by Republic
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