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Are Homeschoolers really similar to Islamic Terrorists?
Creative Loafing,Charlotte ^ | BY QUINN COTTON

Posted on 05/11/2004 8:39:01 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross

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To: Diva Betsy Ross
taught her two kids through eighth grade, then threw them to the wolves in public high school. The boy ended up dropping out and doing jail time, and the girl got pregnant.

Assuming you're not lying through your teeth about it, what makes you assume that homeschooling was the cause when IT HAPPENED WHILE BEING IN PUBLIC SCHOOL ???

41 posted on 05/11/2004 9:13:07 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
"Yeah, better to put 'em on that "natural" school bus, and close 'em up for 6 "natural" hours. I'm buying it.... (not)"

Good point. Since when is it "natural" to force 10 year old boys to sit in rows of desks for six hours a day, divided into arbitrary 45-minute learning segments?
42 posted on 05/11/2004 9:14:14 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Steve_Seattle
Open-minded means respecting others values that differ from your own. I have no problem with Homeschoolers, you seem to have a problem with us who choose public education.
43 posted on 05/11/2004 9:15:57 AM PDT by fml ( You can twist perception, reality won't budge. -RUSH)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Second, I am giving serious consideration to homeschooling, or enrolling my youngest kids in a charter school

Homeschooling is hard work. It demands sacrifice. Nobody will tell you otherwise. But it's worth it, if you can do it. Your kids will thank you later - I was thanking my parents before I graduated high school.

44 posted on 05/11/2004 9:16:42 AM PDT by JenB
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Ms. Butler=Ms. Cotton. Ooops...
45 posted on 05/11/2004 9:18:59 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Teachers in the public school system are required to have certification and college degrees, yet any yahoo can force their kids to stay home as long as they pass an annual test.

And yet many publik-skool stoodents can't pass those same tests that the home-schooled kids ace. Can the author of this tripe spell "socialist societal suicide"?

46 posted on 05/11/2004 9:19:02 AM PDT by MortMan (Complacency is an enemy sniper)
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To: Steve_Seattle
I agree with that. I hold no ill will towards homeschooling.

I was responding to: Anyone who thinks that a public school is a good place to send their children is seriously misguided.

47 posted on 05/11/2004 9:19:40 AM PDT by fml ( You can twist perception, reality won't budge. -RUSH)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
What's really scary about homeschooling is what it can do to the sanity of a mother

Evidence?

48 posted on 05/11/2004 9:20:00 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: TheStickman
ping
49 posted on 05/11/2004 9:20:53 AM PDT by visualops
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To: TheSpottedOwl
It took me a long time to stop laughing after I read this article. It is so ridiculous I called the Editors anyway... I am still laughing at Quinn.
50 posted on 05/11/2004 9:21:52 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red,white and blue)
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To: fml
"They will be more open minded then many here"


Gee, fml, I wish you had gotten the message out sooner, you're being held prisoner here. I set you free!!! And try not to feel so badly about sending your kids to public schools, sometimes parents really don't have a choice!

Regards,
Montana Beth
51 posted on 05/11/2004 9:22:48 AM PDT by MontanaBeth (Irritating a Democrat a day, since 1970)
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To: Caipirabob
Teachers in the public school system are required to have certification and college degrees, yet any yahoo can force their kids to stay home as long as they pass an annual test.

Now there's a REAL whopper. Many of the "guvmint certificated" teachers couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were on the heel.
52 posted on 05/11/2004 9:23:36 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
This guy is sooooo right! Nowadays it is extremely strange, suspicious, and downright terroristic for someone to refuse to enroll their children in the government-run socialist school/indoctrination system. Better call CPS and have those children taken by the State for their own good and the parents sent to the gulags/reeducation camps.
53 posted on 05/11/2004 9:24:27 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Teachers in the public school system are required to have certification and college degrees...

Lefties do so love some skins on the wall. Without a doubt, the most consistently clueless individuals I knew in college were the elementary education majors.

54 posted on 05/11/2004 9:27:06 AM PDT by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: Izzy Dunne
"It takes serious numbers for developing humans to catch on to the nuances of accepted behavior and to have a chance to make enough friends. I just can't see homeschooling providing adequate socialization."

Here's some examples of government-school "socialization":

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My youngest son, who is in the fifth grade, brought home a letter from the principal yesterday. I seems he was disciplined for fighting. The letter stated that he had been knocked to the ground and was being kicked by a group of fellow students, and he got up and started hitting them back as I have always taught both of my boys. My son was punished for defending himself.
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At my Jr. H.S., it was standard policy to send BOTH parties involved in a fight home. A bully always slapped a friend of mine in the back of the head when he came into class EVERY day. And the wimp of a teacher did NOTHING!!!!! So one day my buddy switched seats with me an the bully hit me, and I stood up. I kicked his ass, of course. The teacher did NOTHING, AGAIN!!!!! But I was sent home, even though the priciple told my dad that the bully admitted to starting the fight. It was just school policy.
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Beginning of the school year some high school kid decides to establish a pecking order that includes my son...........resulting in him being pushed off his bike and picked on over a few days.

Our school has a "policy" against bullying, fighting, etc. At the open house my wife and I meet with the vice principal (after phone conversations) and put him on notice - we have noted the problem, the school has failed to deal with the issue-----he states that they will try to monitor the situation.

Fast-forward to a week later------big kid pushes my son off the bike at a corner......as my son gets up to brush himself off big kid comes in for more......a combination sweep of his legs and blow to his chest leaves the big kid gasping for air and in a world of hurt for awhile Big kid's buddy trys to get involved........ and discovers my son's foot in his face.
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I have been attacked several times at school. If there are teachers or administrators around, I just take it like a good little sheep. I already have bad enough grades, no sense making them worse by being suspended.

Now, if there aren't any admins around... at least I only have to hit back once or twice before they quit.
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My brother had the same problem. The school bully and his posse thump my nephew around a couple times, nephew won't fight back because he doesn't want trouble. School won't do anything about it.

Brother tells him to fight back in the future. Next time it happens, the bully ends up with a bloody snoot, and the principal called a meeting between parents to resolve the situation.
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I was standing in line to have my test graded in 5th grade math, and there was this jerk behind me. His back was about 3ft from the wall, as the line curved and they were standing parrallel. This is important for later.

So I was standing there, and the little jerk wouldnt leave me alone. Poking, hitting, slapping the back of my head. No matter what I said, he wouldnt stop, and the instructor was oblivious. Luckily, he was also the basketball coach.

Much to the dismay of the jerk in question, I had seen Goldfinger the night previously, and for some reason, the get-out-of-a-choke hands up then slammed into the ribcage move stuck with me. So, I turn around, and push him and tell him to stop. He decides he is going to grab me by the sholders and try something. Having remembered the move well, I executed it flawlessly. Hands up between his, knocking his arms out of the way, then straight down into his ribs with authority! He doubled over, and then I promptly body slammed him (little skinny punk, I weighed almost twice what he did) into the concrete wall. I then told him in a scary calm voice to "leave me alone." He did so after that...

My teacher said to take it outside next time, and not in his classroom. Ehh.
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I just have to share my daughter's experience when she was in JH. She's not imposing to look at, at 5'2", but swam competitively for about 9 years and even swam a 1500 freestyle event using the butterfly stroke to make a point. (Mostly the coach making a point about her to her).

One day near the end of school some boy attempted liberties with regards to her clothing that were uninvited, unwanted, and inappropriate. She decked him and made him cry.
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Personally, when I finally found myself surrounded by my elementary school tormentors, shoving me and calling me names, and swung out and caught one of them on the lip with my dentist's-office ring, I was sent to the office.

When I was being daily tormented by a pair of classmates during my newspaper route, it only came to a halt when I finally whipped a rock at him and hit the ringleader in the thigh from about 10 feet away.

How does this typical, run-of-the mill government-school socialization have anything to do with real life? In real life, if this kind of thing happened in a workplace, the oblivious supervisors would be sued right down to the kitchen sink and the perpetrators would be rotting in jail.
55 posted on 05/11/2004 9:27:18 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Izzy Dunne
And what's wrong with 2 braids? I'm trying to convince my wife she won't look like Pippi Longstockings if she wears them. (As she home-schools our 2 daughters, the 2 boys having gone off to college.)
56 posted on 05/11/2004 9:28:04 AM PDT by aloysius89 (I don't march. I am the different drummer.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
An acquaintance at Yale in '65, a scion of the Buckley clan, had been "homeschooled" by his father, before that word had even been coined.

Let me see:
brilliant - check
upperclass - check
resemblance to anyone described in this article: Nope!
57 posted on 05/11/2004 9:28:34 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Yes, I have a comment! The author is a pig. It sounds like he has his own problems raising his own child.

I homeschool my child but not for religious reasons. Wear jeans everyday and never braid my hair. I'm glad this guy is not my husband or father.

58 posted on 05/11/2004 9:28:34 AM PDT by knak
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
While I would not home school my kids, to compare home schoolers to terrorists is silly. some do however isolate their kids from the real world a bit too much IMO
59 posted on 05/11/2004 9:28:54 AM PDT by Moleman
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Home schooled children are deprived of their basic inalienable right to score drugs from their classmates.
60 posted on 05/11/2004 9:29:01 AM PDT by RonHolzwarth
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