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Family of Beheaded U.S. Man Releases Statement
yahoo news ^ | 5 11 04 | reuters

Posted on 05/11/2004 1:26:19 PM PDT by freepatriot32

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To: Integrityrocks
"CBS aired these pictures for anything more than ratings and MONEY"
Exactly the case - and they wouldn't have released them if this had been done when Clinton was president.
151 posted on 05/11/2004 2:55:26 PM PDT by afz400
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To: mass55th
My thoughts exactly. Mr. Berg sounds like a real decent, compassionate person. He did a lot of charitable work in third world countries. You would think the Liberals would claim him as one of there own except for one small matter-- he was a Bush supporter.

The sleezebag media whores who played the so-called Iraqi torture photos 24/7 are as much to blame for this kid's death as Al Qaida. An investigation of the so-called prison abuses would have been far more effective had it not been aired 24/7 by a bunch of d***able media whores whose only focus is getting their fellow travelers back into power.

152 posted on 05/11/2004 3:00:21 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: freepatriot32
May God hold Nick's family close beneath the shelter of His wing and comfort, guide, and help them through this horror, and give them peace. May He surround our troops within His providence, be their shield and buckler, and bless them to swiftly defeat these sons of Satan who have just reminded the world what is real and unconscionable torture.
153 posted on 05/11/2004 3:05:10 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: HitmanNY
I blame CBS.

Without them putting the photos on TV, this man would not be dead.

It would have all been handled by the courts and the military justice system. But the CBS media wh*res wanted ratings and money. Greed by the media killed this man and CBS is responsible for his death.

154 posted on 05/11/2004 3:05:18 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: ET(end tyranny)
When were the other contractors killed?

Wednesday, March 31, 2004

Horrific and infuriating news from Iraq's Sunni triangle: "Suspected insurgents"--how's that for a euphemism--"killed four American civilian contractors in a grenade attack Wednesday in central Iraq," CNN reports:

Click here

155 posted on 05/11/2004 3:15:21 PM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: HitmanNY
I disagee. The pictures were run to provoke an overwhelming response to the actions of a few, to the detriment of these soldiers, their families and the military in the field.

In the end, I believe it is Kapinski which lead to the communication breakdown between officers and soldiers.

Are you telling me that she did instruct these people "in a military fashion" as to their duties and responsibilities at the prison at some point in time?

Are you telling me that the Red Cross reports were not discussed with her and any necessary action taken?

Are you telling me that her policy of "visiting each prison at least once in a three month period" is acceptable.

Are you telling me she had no authority? She says it was CIA territory so what she is telling me is that if she sees, or gets wind of something outside her box, she simply says "Not my box" and looks the other way?

156 posted on 05/11/2004 3:15:25 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: MamaB
The DUers just hate it when something that helps Bush is discussed. The DUmb people knew immediately that the prison abuse scandal would be put on the back burner because of the beheading.

So, they come to harass over here because the half-way DU losers don't go to DU during times like these...only the most fanatical remain at DU and also come here to post their garbage.
157 posted on 05/11/2004 3:16:11 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: HitmanNY
The media acted predictably - what major media outlet would never run that story?

I guarantee, if a dem were president they would NOT have shown the photos.

Why not? Because the pictures from day one clearly were the work of rogues who took personal pics and NOT under orders. The only reason the media ran with the pics was in order to say this was SOP under the Bush administration.

Along with the pictures were reports that said as much, thereby tarnishing the entire military and making them targets, which was why Myers asked CBS to hold off on airing the photos.

158 posted on 05/11/2004 3:16:40 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: ET(end tyranny)
"I knew he was decapitated before," said the father, Michael Berg. "That manner is preferable to a long and torturous death.

Maybe they should see the video. It sounds to me like it was quite long and torturous. Not just a slick one chop like in a guiotine.

159 posted on 05/11/2004 3:27:16 PM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: cyncooper
Along with the pictures were reports that said as much, thereby tarnishing the entire military and making them targets, which was why Myers asked CBS to hold off on airing the photos.

CBS doesn't listen to Myers at all.

Remember she tried to get the raping of Juanita Broderick by Clinton story she did aired and they wouldn't do it until after the impeachment hearings were over.

For the life of me I don't know why she stays with them.

160 posted on 05/11/2004 3:36:17 PM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: HitmanNY
You're a good guy. I figured you did.
161 posted on 05/11/2004 3:36:25 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("Lashing out" at Democrats since 1990.)
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To: freepatriot32
bump
162 posted on 05/11/2004 3:37:16 PM PDT by VOA
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To: keithtoo
Indeed it does.
163 posted on 05/11/2004 3:39:17 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Spunky
I don't agree with your theory - but I appreciate the fact that you, too, have the feeling that this is not the cut and dried "torture" scandal it's cracked up to be. And I never focused on the fact that the prisoners were unshackled (except for the poodle leash!). My particular point was that their physiques were not those of suffering, starving, innocent prisoners but of muscular young fighting men. Dangerous men.
164 posted on 05/11/2004 4:06:26 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: 4integrity
If I may steal a line from a quote and add my own opinion.

WE HAVE SEEN THE ENEMY, AND IT ISN'T US

May we never ever become what we hate, rightfuly, so much in 'them'.

165 posted on 05/11/2004 4:12:29 PM PDT by OldFriend (LOSERS quit when they are tired/WINNERS quit when they have won)
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To: Reagan Man
Grow up.

What are you talking about? Watching this gruesome video gives them more power to infect the viewer with their sub-human morality. I can see the view that says "show it to know it" but I see a different side, "don't stoop." I accept your apology in advance.

166 posted on 05/11/2004 4:47:18 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Travis McGee
ALLAHU AKBAR! = HEIL HITLER! MEIN KAMPF = MEIN KORAN

I appreciate the sentiment, however Hitler at least had the self-respect to shoot himself in his bunker. Arabs are totally spineless.

167 posted on 05/11/2004 4:55:17 PM PDT by rageaholic
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To: lepton
bookmark bump
168 posted on 05/11/2004 5:23:46 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: freepatriot32
So sick of Islam!
169 posted on 05/11/2004 5:35:07 PM PDT by Imperialist
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To: boo-boo23
99% of so-called pacifist are simply cowards who hide behind their so-called progressive thinking....

I am glad I live in a country where brave men and women do what must be done so that folks like you can spew silly tripe,(you are over the top with assertions of what I meant or mean) although I do AGREE with you about the over the top silly crap about MELTING IRAQ with nukes, although much of it is just expressions of anger, not a call to a policy.


170 posted on 05/11/2004 5:36:40 PM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: rageaholic
Good point.
171 posted on 05/11/2004 5:41:06 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: BushisTheMan
Pearl was beheaded ... no CBS pictures "provoking them" then.

Russian soldiers beheaded ... no CBS pictures "provoking them" then.

Blaming CBS is excusing those filthy scum coward bastard sons of dogs.

172 posted on 05/11/2004 5:45:04 PM PDT by bvw
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To: sam_paine
You are right. Do fuss with those who disagee on that point though -- emotions are hot at this time.
173 posted on 05/11/2004 5:46:34 PM PDT by bvw
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To: sam_paine
do NOT fuss. They are friends and countymen -- reserve your all your anger for the real murdering scums.
174 posted on 05/11/2004 5:48:07 PM PDT by bvw
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To: sam_paine
It's juvenile to place the Dixie Chicks public antics in the same paragraph with the heinous murder of Nick Berg. Hope that clarifies things for ya.

If you allow this to somehow infect you, that is your problem. Reality can be ugly at times and the world remains a dangerous place to live. Most American's understand those facts.

175 posted on 05/11/2004 8:02:43 PM PDT by Reagan Man (The choice is clear. Reelect BUSH-CHENEY !)
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To: HitmanNY
Notice the islamics didn't do the same to the Japanese "tourists" held a while ago then released
176 posted on 05/11/2004 8:08:17 PM PDT by spokeshave (It is, as it was)
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To: Spunky
Along with the pictures were reports that said as much, thereby tarnishing the entire military and making them targets, which was why Myers asked CBS to hold off on airing the photos. CBS doesn't listen to Myers at all. Remember she tried to get the raping of Juanita Broderick by Clinton story she did aired and they wouldn't do it until after the impeachment hearings were over. For the life of me I don't know why she stays with them.

You're mixing Myers. Lisa Meyers is the one who did the Juanita Broaddrick story. General Myers is the one who asked CBS to delay showing the prison pictures.

177 posted on 05/11/2004 8:51:27 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: HitmanNY
You said: Yea, well, I'm unsure about that. The 4 civillians who were killed in Fallujah were beaten and murdered mercilessly, and that was weeks before any of this. So maybe the manner that Berg died was impacted by this incident, but the fact that he died (the idea that 'but for the pictures being publicized, Berg would be alive today') is dubuious, can't be proven, and inconsistent with similar murders that happened independent of the humiliation photos scandal.


That makes sense, except that the stated reason for the beheading of Mr. Berg was the mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners. That mistreatment took place in January 2004, at the latest. It was the media trumpeting of it in the last 2 weeks that resulted in his recent death. Might Berg have died anyway? Perhaps. Did the media virtually assure his death? Probably.

178 posted on 05/12/2004 2:29:03 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: weegee
You said: Berg might have still been decapitated. No different than the civilians that have been kidnapped or ambushed elsewhere in Iraq. Even his last name indicates that he could be Jewish. That would be enough to receive a death sentence from Islamofascists.

But their stated reason for killing him was the mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners. The mistreatment took place many months ago, but his murder corresponds to media publication of the pictures, in the last couple of weeks.
179 posted on 05/12/2004 2:30:50 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: lepton
"You're mixing Myers."

I realized that later when I was reading another article and read "General Meyers." :-)

180 posted on 05/12/2004 7:22:32 AM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: Reagan Man
If you allow this to somehow infect you, that is your problem. Reality can be ugly at times and the world remains a dangerous place to live.

Sex is a reality of the human race, and a wholesome part of propagation. But people who watch pornography films are debased by the simple act of watching.

People that watch pornographic snuff films are debased further. People who watch this video are the same folks that gethered with their kids in the town square for criminals being drawn and quartered in the dark ages.

I DID NOT equate the Dixie Chicks with murderers. I selectively avoid their product, like I avoided paying Hollyweird to see Kill Bill or Natural Born Killers. And I will also not let the images of Zawahiri's snuff video enter my brain.

181 posted on 05/12/2004 9:30:06 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: NCLaw441
No doubt that the prison story gave them a stage which would get them attention.

They kidnapped him nearly a month ago. He was kidnapped the same day that man who recently escaped was kidnapped.

That man escaped and they had been holding Nick Berg for a long time (30 days). He was a liabilty and posed a risk (if they were caught with him or if he escaped).

The abuse reports certainly were connected because they mentioned them. How much it politically was involved in their anger (vs how much they knew the press would report that the abuse "angered" the opposition) I just do not know.

Also, the arab press ran front page photos that came from a porn site. This story has received little attention here (although the US Embassy in Cairo asked for a retraction from the Arab press). The Daily Mirror also ran fake photos (of men being urinated on).

Don't know how much it was the fakes created by the left that angered the IslamoNazis.

182 posted on 05/12/2004 11:28:07 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: sam_paine
People who watch this video are the same folks that gethered with their kids in the town square for criminals being drawn and quartered in the dark ages.

Is this why teachers force students to watch films of Nazi attrocities?

183 posted on 05/12/2004 11:29:15 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: bvw
There's blame enough to go around:

Blame those scum who did the beheading.
Blame CBS for painting all the military with the same brush.
Blame CBS for giving sympathy and an excuse to the scum.
Blame CBS for being anti-American and anti-military.
184 posted on 05/13/2004 10:36:56 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: Steve_Seattle
The Mass coMedia always defaults to the same tired line"Blood always sells" when they show some suposed "atrocity committed by Americans. O.K.So here we have the bloodiest , most brutal , life and outlook changing , video footage EVER recorded. So run with it you bunch of hypocrites or is the truth not to your liking. Hey Rather, Brokow,Blitzer where is all this courage your so proud of . Can't take the heat can you? This show the media elite for the outright candyasses they really are, not even worthy of the title whore.At least a whore does something for it's money.,
185 posted on 05/13/2004 10:54:55 AM PDT by ping jockey ($.13 I tell you. That is all it takes)
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To: BushisTheMan
Nick Berg was murdered by fiends. To them, and them ALONE, all blame is due and to say otherwise is to stand with those scum hacking the young man's neck and shouting "Allah S**tbar"!
186 posted on 05/13/2004 12:11:28 PM PDT by bvw
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