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9-11 'hijacker' told all, FBI didn't believe him
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | May 12, 2004 | Times of London

Posted on 05/11/2004 11:09:39 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter

A British Muslim trained to be a 9-11 hijacker told an FBI counterterrorism taskforce in 2000 of a plot by terrorists to fly passengers planes into buildings, but the agents did not believe him.

The 29-year-old al-Qaida recruit – interrogated for three weeks in Newark, N.J. – passed a lie detector test, the Times of London reported.

The man, whose name was withheld by the paper because of threats from militants, was a waiter in a curry restaurant in Manchester, England.

He was lured by al-Qaida at a mosque in Oldham, England, and attended a terrorist training school in Pakistan.

The interrogation came after the man had second thoughts about his suicide mission and surrendered to police, the Times said.

He had gambled away thousands of British pounds given to him by al-Qaida, reported the paper.

At that time, 18 months before the 9-11 attack, other hijackers were entering the United States and enrolling at flight schools.

The story arose from inquiries by the U.S. independent 9-11 commission examining the attacks, which has led to a reopening of the case.

The man was brought back to Britain in 2000 by two FBI agents and handed to British security officials at London's Heathrow airport. He was questioned by Special Branch, the arm of British Police that deals with national security matters.

The FBI, which wants the man to be a witness in its investigation, has criticized British authorities for ignoring a request to find him after Sept. 11, but Special Branch officers claim they went back to him and took "appropriate action," the Times said.

The man was born in Britain but grew up in Pakistan before returning to Oldham at 16. He ran up huge debts gambling, the Times said, at the time a recruiter approached him at his local mosque, offering money for "a job."

He accepted.

"If your life has no color and a mullah says you can be a hero by dying, why not?" he said, according to the Times. "I think there are a lot of frustrated Muslim youths in Britain who feel the same way."

In Lahore, Pakistan, he was trained in hijacking and became familiar with a Boeing cockpit.

"I knew they wanted me to do some kind of operation in which I would die but my life was such a mess that in my mind I was already dead," he said, according to the London paper.

"At that time if they had told me to strap a bomb to my body and blow myself up I would have done it as easily as taking a glass of water to drink."

He returned to Britian, where he was given 5,000 pounds, then was sent to New York where he was to meet an operative at the airport.

In the meantime, however, he married and had a baby.

On the flight to New York, thoughts of his family changed his mind and he decided instead to slip away to Atlantic City, N.J., where he lost his money in casinos then turned himself in.


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: 2000; 911; 911attacks; 911commission; 911hijackers; alqaida; clintonfailures; clintonknew; clintonlegacy; clintonswatch; counterterrorism; fbi; freeh; gambling; gorlickwall; jihadinamerica; reno; thewall; x42

1 posted on 05/11/2004 11:09:39 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter
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To: TeleStraightShooter
Talk about "out of the blue"
2 posted on 05/11/2004 11:15:35 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: TeleStraightShooter
There's no way we could have prevented 9/11.TM
3 posted on 05/11/2004 11:16:49 PM PDT by sixmil (fighting the open borders/tariff-free trade/in-n-outsourcing/invasion light cartel)
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To: sixmil
P.S. Islam is peace.TM
4 posted on 05/11/2004 11:17:41 PM PDT by sixmil (fighting the open borders/tariff-free trade/in-n-outsourcing/invasion light cartel)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
A British Muslim trained to be a 9-11 hijacker told an FBI counterterrorism taskforce in 2000 of a plot by terrorists to fly passengers planes into buildings, but the agents did not believe him.

Hmmmm.... Can't blame Bush. This story is going nowhere.

5 posted on 05/11/2004 11:20:49 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: TeleStraightShooter
So, this happened on Clinton's (and Clarke's) watch.

It is a must for the 911 commission to investigate if there where any communications between FBI and CIA in this case, and if there weren't was this due to the stringent rules regarding collaboration between national security and law enforcement agencies - the Gorlick Wall.
6 posted on 05/11/2004 11:23:34 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy
....and, no, I'm not going to old my breath on this :)
7 posted on 05/11/2004 11:24:35 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Lancey Howard
"Can't blame Bush. This story is going nowhere"

LOL you got that right.

Thanks Gore for dragging out the 200 election. LOL
8 posted on 05/11/2004 11:25:21 PM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1
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To: ScaniaBoy
The Gorlick Wall

We have a Winner!

9 posted on 05/11/2004 11:28:18 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Kerry{D-Hanoi} plans to apply post-Vietnam policy to Iraq: Exit & let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
"If your life has no color and a mullah says you can be a hero by dying, why not? ... At that time if they had told me to strap a bomb to my body and blow myself up I would have done it as easily as taking a glass of water to drink."

Islam is the Manson Family on a global scale.

10 posted on 05/11/2004 11:36:46 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: TeleStraightShooter
Bookmark bump - way too late. Nite Nite. ;-)
11 posted on 05/11/2004 11:37:27 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Have a nice day or else!)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
"...passed a lie detector test, the Times of London reported."

The first means nothing, the second I can't comment on.

12 posted on 05/11/2004 11:38:19 PM PDT by norton
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To: TeleStraightShooter
Lets see the year 2000 was when the last recession started, our stock markets fell by about 30 to 40% and Gorelick's Wall prevented any possible way of preventing 9/11.

Tell us Straight Shooter, who was the president in 2000?

Who was the chief law enforcement officer, (The Attorney General)?
13 posted on 05/11/2004 11:40:10 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (ABCNNBC BS = FRAUDCASTERS)
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To: ovrtaxt; An.American.Expatriate
You might have seen this previously - was published in The Sunday Times. If not: PING!

ScaniaBoy
14 posted on 05/11/2004 11:40:23 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; devolve
Ping
15 posted on 05/11/2004 11:51:13 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: Shermy; Mitchell
ping
16 posted on 05/11/2004 11:54:10 PM PDT by Allan
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To: Grampa Dave
Tell us Straight Shooter, who was the president in 2000?
Gladly I will Gramps from Oregon: If memory serves me correctly, it was that hillbilly-whore-hopper Billy Jeff!

Who was the chief law enforcement officer, (The Attorney General)?
Reno, & her activist underling Gorelick {who sits on the partisan 9/11 committe} helped re-enforce the wall of seperation between the FBI & the CIA....

17 posted on 05/12/2004 12:02:46 AM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Kerry{D-Hanoi} plans to apply post-Vietnam policy to Iraq: Exit & let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
Son! You get an A+++++++!

Thank you and good night.

PS: How will ABCNNBC BS = The FRAUDCASTERS try to blame GW for this?

Thanks again!
18 posted on 05/12/2004 12:04:38 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ABCNNBC BS = FRAUDCASTERS)
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To: ntnychik

Blurring the timeline.








19 posted on 05/12/2004 12:12:57 AM PDT by devolve (................... [..........................Hello from Sunny South Florida.............)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
I am sick and tired of these "gotcha" stories, even if this one did happen on Clinton's watch. Whoope-dee-doo. We know in hindsight that all the stories having to do with airplanes and buildings were true. All the stories about putting poison in the drinking water were BS. So were all the stories about blowing up bridges during rush hour. That's the best part about hindsight: it's always right.

Are reporters this stupid, or do they think think the rest of us are this stupid? No matter what happens, there's always some Cassandra out there who "warned" about it. Just like they "warned" about 500 other things, 500 of which never happened. "See that? This heroic whistleblower here wrote a memo two years ago warning that there would be a forest fire in California. But nobody listened!"

Spare me.

20 posted on 05/12/2004 12:59:17 AM PDT by Nick Danger (If it weren't for the last minute, nothing would ever get done.)
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To: Lancey Howard
>>Can't blame Bush. This story is going nowhere.

It's funny...MS-NBC is running the "Failure of Leadership" headlines and won't get off the prison story. It reminds me of when the libs tried to get rid of Al Haig....he was in every issue of the NYT - front and center - with something negative.

21 posted on 05/12/2004 1:24:17 AM PDT by The Raven (<<----Click Screen name to see why I vote the way I do.)
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To: Grampa Dave
who was the president in 2000?

But you see, Bush was running for President -
- The stock market *knew* he was going to win so it tanked
- Enron execs *knew* Bush would bail them out, so "Kenny-boy" ran the company in the ground
- Knowing that Algore was going to lose, the internet dot coms decided to just "end it all"
- Janet Reno figured out that all the terrorist plots they were uncovering were just Bush and his buddy Bin Laden trying to make Clinton look bad, so they ignored them...
22 posted on 05/12/2004 1:53:44 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
We need to know what the Governor of Texas knew about this.

And when did he know it?
23 posted on 05/12/2004 4:40:57 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
With your four point, you have cleared up a lot of questions. Now I know the rest of the story. ;)
24 posted on 05/12/2004 5:12:07 AM PDT by MattMa (I'm not a victim, I am a conservative and if you get to close, I just may bite.)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
My only doubts on this are why has it taken this long after 9/11 for this to be revealed? Does the FBI have evidence that this actually happened?
25 posted on 05/12/2004 6:00:58 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Nick Danger
"Are reporters this stupid, or do they think think the rest of us are this stupid?"

I'll take door #2.

26 posted on 05/12/2004 6:04:43 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
I do remember seeing this posted a long time ago. Glad it's coming out again, except that the agency withstands so much public critique and underappreciation in spite of what it does accomplish, which often stays secret.
27 posted on 05/12/2004 6:12:14 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough (Bush '04 --- in a F'n landslide.)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
Links to original stories from Sunday Times are here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1133149/posts

Regards,

Allan J. Favish
http://www.allanfavish.com

28 posted on 05/12/2004 6:16:46 AM PDT by AJFavish
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To: Joe Brower
Good answer, good answer :-)
29 posted on 05/12/2004 6:22:25 AM PDT by T'wit ("To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society" - Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: T'wit
Hey, I want door 1 and 2, they both apply. Reporters are stupid to think that what they are intentionally doing is called reporting.
30 posted on 05/12/2004 7:08:53 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: wita
>> Are reporters this stupid, or do they think think the rest of us are this stupid?

> Hey, I want door 1 and 2

Yes! Yes!

If door 3 is "They never miss a chance to hate America," I'll take that one too.

31 posted on 05/12/2004 7:32:44 AM PDT by T'wit ("To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society" - Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Grampa Dave
You wrote:

To: TeleStraightShooter
Son! You get an A+++++++!

Thank you and good night.

PS: How will ABCNNBC BS = The FRAUDCASTERS try to blame
GW for this?

Thanks again!
18 posted on 05/12/2004 3:04:38 AM EDT by Grampa Dave


But you forgot the DING DING DING DING!!!

32 posted on 05/12/2004 7:39:54 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: The KG9 Kid
Helter Skelter
33 posted on 05/12/2004 7:51:57 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Nick Danger
That's the best part about hindsight: it's always right. Are reporters this stupid, or do they think think the rest of us are this stupid? No matter what happens, there's always some Cassandra out there who "warned" about it. Just like they "warned" about 500 other things, 500 of which never happened. "See that? This heroic whistleblower here wrote a memo two years ago warning that there would be a forest fire in California. But nobody listened!" Spare me.

I'm with you.

34 posted on 05/12/2004 8:18:05 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
- The stock market *knew* he was going to win so it tanked

Funny thing is, I've seen lefties actually MAKE this argument, with a straight face.

35 posted on 05/12/2004 8:19:08 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: AJFavish
Why am I not suprised to find WND 3 days behind the curve?
;^>
36 posted on 05/12/2004 8:46:15 AM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Kerry{D-Hanoi} plans to apply post-Vietnam policy to Iraq: Exit & let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
Bump, Pakistanis involved.
37 posted on 05/12/2004 8:52:01 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Grampa Dave
PS: How will ABCNNBC BS = The FRAUDCASTERS try to blame GW for this?




I am shocked that you are planning on here from those rats at all about this.

; )
38 posted on 05/12/2004 8:58:23 AM PDT by Mixer
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To: Nick Danger
Sigh, another story about the clueless Americans.
39 posted on 05/12/2004 9:23:03 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: TeleStraightShooter
"In Lahore, Pakistan, he was trained in hijacking and became familiar with a Boeing cockpit."

Imagine that: the Pakis named a city after their mothers!
Isn't that sweet!

40 posted on 05/12/2004 10:24:56 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
"We need to know what the Governor of Texas knew about this."

Rick Perry?

He didn't know a thing about this.
Still doesn't in fact - prolly never will...
LOL!

41 posted on 05/12/2004 10:28:28 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: TeleStraightShooter
Old news. This has only been reported a few thousand times. Hindsite is 20/20 and everyone is a Military genius AFTER the battle
42 posted on 05/12/2004 2:30:19 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Vote Bush 2004-We have the solutions, Kerry Democrats? Nothing but slogans)
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To: Nick Danger
I am sick and tired of these "gotcha" stories, even if this one did happen on Clinton's watch. Whoope-dee-doo. We know in hindsight that all the stories having to do with airplanes and buildings were true. All the stories about putting poison in the drinking water were BS. So were all the stories about blowing up bridges during rush hour. That's the best part about hindsight: it's always right.

The problem today, and one that politicians and the tin foil hat group ignore, is not gathering intel. If you don't hamstring yourself you can find out most anything. The real problem is that there is so much of it, it becomes ALMOST impossible to sort out the wheat from the chaff. I would love to gather the group that thinks 9/11 could have been prevented, give them a years worth of info and see what they could tell us about the future.

43 posted on 05/12/2004 2:42:40 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (RIP U. S. Army Specialist Pat Tillman)
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To: Redbob
Ok, THAT is funny!!!
44 posted on 05/12/2004 4:04:26 PM PDT by Eaker (That the bright star of Texas shall never be dim while her soil boasts a son to raise rifle or limb.)
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To: ScaniaBoy
It's not just the Gorelick wall.

There's an innate problem within the FBI about sharing information, even within their own organization. They are so eager, - no, desperate, to be the awardee for having provided the significant piece of information, that they don't share information with others in their own division, much less with organizations such as the CIA or NSA.

It is so bad that I have begun to believe that the only way to get the FBI to share information is to disband them all - disperse them to the four winds, and start over. The old-boy network is so strong, it keeps anyone from exercising good judgment.

It's taken years for several companies to get the information they need in order to design a computer system that does what it needs to do because they've kept information from the system designers, and thus several iterations of computer systems have been designed and built, that don't do what they need to do - and that's not the fault of the system architects.

It is a problem that most Americans are totally unaware of but anyone who has had even minimal contact with the FBI has learned, the hard way.

45 posted on 05/13/2004 8:38:36 AM PDT by TruthNtegrity (The heck with justice. I want revenge and I want it NOW!)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
In the meantime, however, he married and had a baby.

Other than 175 grains of Pb, that seems the only way to stop terrorists.

Early in his career, Arafat set up a very effective terrorist group (IIRC, "Black November"). Having completed their tasks, Arafat faced the problem of "turning off" a highly motivated & dangerous group. He did so by seeking out the most beautiful & desireable young single Palestinean women, and persuading them to serve their people by marrying these "heros". Upon nuptuals, the terrorists suddenly became very docile and domesticated, and ceased their lethal activities.

Give these people something to live for, and they won't want to die in a blaze of glory. (Until then, 175gr@2300fps.)

46 posted on 05/13/2004 10:29:41 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: ctdonath2
Give these people something to live for, and they won't want to die in a blaze of glory.
(Until then, 175gr@2300fps.)


Seeing how the "one man can marry up to four women" rule usually leaves
some guys out in the cold...
that means reform or ditch Islam.
48 posted on 05/13/2004 7:47:58 PM PDT by VOA
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To: truthseeking

Sorry your post got deleted. I'm not really big on conspiracy theories, except for entertainment value, but I can tell you that I never heard a single jet over Manhattan until well after the towers had been hit. My best guess is that Uncle Sam got caught with his pants down.


49 posted on 05/13/2004 8:29:18 PM PDT by sixmil (fighting the open borders/tariff-free trade/in-n-outsourcing/invasion light cartel)
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