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1 posted on 05/12/2004 7:26:10 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer
LOL! That's a good one! =)

It'd be more effective to repeal Article I altogether though..
2 posted on 05/12/2004 7:30:39 AM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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To: ckilmer
We have at least one good Senator.
3 posted on 05/12/2004 7:31:13 AM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: ckilmer
I have introduced a bill that would repeal the 17th Amendment.

Prediction: It will go nowhere. The grand experiment has failed; we have but to vote ourselves more bread & circuses.

5 posted on 05/12/2004 7:32:49 AM PDT by sionnsar (sionnsar: the part of the bagpipe where the melody comes out)
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To: ckilmer; Jim Robinson
Hey Jim, looks like ol Zell has finally read your memo re: 17th Amendment.
6 posted on 05/12/2004 7:34:23 AM PDT by Seeking the truth (The Bullhorn that chased Jesse is right on my desk as I type this!)
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To: ckilmer
While they're at it, the 19th should be repealed as well.
7 posted on 05/12/2004 7:39:30 AM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: ckilmer
I used to be pro-repeal on the 17th amendment, but the following thoughtful comment on Clayton Cramer's weblog has given me pause.
I'm sure this wasn't envisioned when the election of Senators by state legislatures was first conceived, but with the way district boundaries are drawn these days, the fact is that nowadays the HOUSE represents the state legislature (via gerrymandering), and the Senate represents the people of each state -- since state boundaries aren't redrawn after every census.

I remember one election when I lived in California (probably late 1980s) when about half the votes for Representatives went to each party, but about 2/3 of California's House delegation were Democrats. Why? The Democrats controlled the legislature -- and gerrymandered that, too, with similar results. At that time, California had a Republican Senator (Pete Wilson).

The pattern is probably similar in other states, though perhaps in some cases with the parties reversed. If the 17th Amendment were repealed today, it would not remove power from special interests, it would just ensure that ALL of Congress were chosen by gerrymandering, and it would make the political map at the time of the repeal more entrenched at the federal level.


8 posted on 05/12/2004 7:44:50 AM PDT by Fixit (My Pitiful Blog - http://comedian.blogspot.com)
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To: ckilmer
Excellent!
9 posted on 05/12/2004 7:49:05 AM PDT by Van Jenerette (US Army 1967-1991 ARMY Infantry OCS Hall of Fame - Ft. Benning)
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To: ckilmer
Read later.
10 posted on 05/12/2004 7:51:18 AM PDT by EagleMamaMT
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To: ckilmer
I believe it was a wise old Roman senator named Cato the Elder who remonstrated continually with the Romans about the corruption in their Republic.

And he used to end every speech with: "Cathage must be destroyed!"

Would that one senator would echo this with: The mad mullahs must be destroyed.
11 posted on 05/12/2004 7:55:06 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: ckilmer
Zell Miller is a great American.
13 posted on 05/12/2004 8:21:44 AM PDT by NCPAC
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To: ckilmer
It is the special interest groups and their fundraising power that elect U.S. senators and then hold them in bondage forever.

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner!

16 posted on 05/12/2004 8:44:14 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: ckilmer
This is awesome. Although it will go no where, I agree with repealing the *WORST* ammendment. Our founders were men who are in the category of the greatest men of the millennium. By "tweaking" their design to make it more "democratic" we issued our republic a warrant to a long, slow, ugly death.
18 posted on 05/12/2004 10:10:07 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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Folks, if you want this you have to support it. Everyone here should contact his or her senators and strongly urge them to support or even co-sponsor Zell's proposal. I'm proposing just that on the Pennsylvania Locale board; you should all do the same on your own local boards.
20 posted on 05/12/2004 11:03:09 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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PING!

There’s an interesting rebuttal to the pro-repeal argument in #8 and a counterargument to that rebuttal in #12.


21 posted on 10/24/2007 4:48:42 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: ckilmer

Zell could throw in the obsolete 14th amendment as well.


22 posted on 10/24/2007 6:06:40 PM PDT by spectre (spectre's wife)
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To: ckilmer

bttt


23 posted on 10/24/2007 6:41:28 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (America: “the most benign hegemon in history.”—Mark Steyn)
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To: ckilmer

LOL I wondered why Zell was still in office...I thought he retired...

:)


24 posted on 10/24/2007 8:23:55 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; justiceseeker93; ..
Note: this topic is from May 2004.
25 posted on 02/09/2009 6:41:16 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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bump for later


26 posted on 02/18/2009 5:47:54 PM PST by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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