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email | 5-12-04 | my favorite headache

Posted on 05/12/2004 12:52:41 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

Facts

There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq during the month of January..... in the fair city of Detroit (Michigan) there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's one American city folks, about as deadly as the entire war torn country of Iraq!

Worst president in history?

The following appeared in the Durham, NC local paper as a letter to the editor.

Liberals claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war. They complain about his prosecution of it. One liberal recently claimed Bush was the worst president in U.S. history. Let's clear up one point: We didn't start the war on terror. Try to remember, it was started by terrorists BEFORE 9/11.

Let's look at the "worst" president and mismanagement claims.

FDR led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did.

From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year.

Truman finished that war and started one in Korea, North Korea never attacked us. >From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,333 per year.

John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. I think history might show Eisenhower committed the troops and Kennedy was honoring that commitment.

Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per year.

Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.

In the two years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Lybia, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. We lost 600 soldiers, an average of 300 a year. Bush did all this abroad while not allowing another terrorist attack at home.

Worst president in history? Come on!

The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...

It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51 day operation.

We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!


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Just the facts mam.......
1 posted on 05/12/2004 12:52:42 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache
BTTT
2 posted on 05/12/2004 12:56:53 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: My Favorite Headache
You won't see this on CNNABCCBSMSNBCNBC anytime soon. This is good.
3 posted on 05/12/2004 12:57:24 PM PDT by Texagirl4W
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To: My Favorite Headache
It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51 day operation.

Now THAT'S a comparison.

4 posted on 05/12/2004 12:58:28 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51 day operation.

We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!

Most excellent tidbits...

5 posted on 05/12/2004 1:00:08 PM PDT by Principled
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To: MeekOneGOP
This is worth your ping lists. <|:)~
6 posted on 05/12/2004 1:00:14 PM PDT by Texagirl4W
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To: Texagirl4W
Go Bush
7 posted on 05/12/2004 1:05:22 PM PDT by just me
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To: Principled
Thought so myself....so pass it on and start spreading some facts here people.
8 posted on 05/12/2004 1:17:26 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Rush 30th Anniversary Tour Tickets On Sale Now!)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Once upon a time, there was a Presidential election that was too close to
call. Neither the Republican presidential candidate nor the Democratic
Presidential candidate had enough votes to win the election. Therefore, it
was decided that there should be an ice fishing contest between the two
candidates to determine the final winner. There was much talk about ballot
recounting, court challenges, etc., but a week-long ice fishing competition
seemed the (manly) way to settle things The candidate who catches the most
fish at the end of the week wins.

After a lot of back and forth discussion, it was decided that the contest
would take place on a remote and cold lake in Wisconsin. There were to be
no observers present, and both men were to be sent out separately on this
remote lake and return daily with their catch for counting and verification.

At the end of the first day, George W. returns to the starting
line and he has 10 fish. Soon, Kerry returns and has zero fish. Well,
everyone assumes he is just having another bad hair day or something and
hopefully, he will catch up the next day. At the end of the 2nd day George
W. comes in with 20 fish and Kerry comes in again with none.

That evening, Bill Clinton gets together secretly with Kerry and says, "I
think George W. is a lowlife cheatin' son-of-a-gun. I want you to go out
tomorrow and don't even bother with fishing. Just spy on him and see if he
is cheating in any way.

The next night (after George W. comes back with 50 fish), Clinton says to
Kerry, "Well, what about it, is George W. cheatin?'"

"He sure is, Bill, he's cutting holes in the ice."
9 posted on 05/12/2004 1:17:29 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Well done...well done, indeed.
10 posted on 05/12/2004 1:17:31 PM PDT by Heff ("Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it's the Almighty's gift to humanity" GW Bush 4/12/04)
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To: Heff
Gracias
11 posted on 05/12/2004 1:25:30 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Rush 30th Anniversary Tour Tickets On Sale Now!)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Good stuff! Where did you get this? I'd like to direct this piece to one of my Leftist neighbors.
12 posted on 05/12/2004 1:34:56 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: AAABEST; JohnHuang2; Sabertooth
Ping
13 posted on 05/12/2004 1:36:50 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Rush 30th Anniversary Tour Tickets On Sale Now!)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Although I understand your logic, you're missing a vital statistic. There are approximately 125,000 troops in Iraq with targets on their back, there are approximately 951,270 residents (2000 census) in Detroit most of whom go about their business with a relatively small risk of being murdered.

In other words, the troops in the field are at risk 24x7. The same can't be said for the residents of Detroit.

14 posted on 05/12/2004 1:37:07 PM PDT by Archangelsk (15 out of 19.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
I thought the deaths in Korea were closer to 100,000 but it's late in the day and I'm tired.
15 posted on 05/12/2004 1:44:56 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: My Favorite Headache
"John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. I think history might show Eisenhower committed the troops and Kennedy was honoring that commitment."

While JFK did indeed, honor a committment, so did Eisenhower. Harry Truman actually set the policy in Indochina when he formed MAAG-Indochina on September 17th, 1950 and committed up to 200 advisors to Vietnam to assist the French on the use of American hardware, etc.
16 posted on 05/12/2004 2:02:34 PM PDT by cwb (Liberals: Always fighting for social justice in all the wrong places.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Love it!
17 posted on 05/12/2004 2:05:39 PM PDT by momfirst
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To: My Favorite Headache
BUMP
18 posted on 05/12/2004 2:06:54 PM PDT by I still care
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
There is actually conflicting accounts on these deaths...and the way they were counted, in the Korean War. One of my figures claimed that 36,914 were killed in Korea, with 33,652 of them being directly battle related.

Another figure erroneously listed fatalities in the Korean War at 54,246...which included non-Korean theater deaths. Unfortunately, I think they are still trying to figure all this out.
19 posted on 05/12/2004 2:26:56 PM PDT by cwb (Liberals: Always fighting for social justice in all the wrong places.)
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To: cwb
Yikes!
20 posted on 05/12/2004 3:09:40 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: My Favorite Headache
"We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records."

Outstanding!!! Just made my day!!

21 posted on 05/12/2004 3:10:22 PM PDT by Maria S ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm."George W. Bush 1/20/01)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia never attacked us.

On the news today they say they found *another* mass grave in Bosnia. Bang-up job Clinton & the UN did there.

22 posted on 05/12/2004 4:21:54 PM PDT by cgk (Leftist spin: Baghdad Fell? Clinton's Army! Saddam Nabbed? Clinton's Army! Naked Iraqis? Bush's Army)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Germany did attack american ships in the Atlantic. Germany declared war on the US before we declared war on them.
23 posted on 05/12/2004 4:25:22 PM PDT by breakem ((formerly bigsigh))
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To: My Favorite Headache; Texagirl4W; Alamo-Girl; onyx; ALOHA RONNIE; SpookBrat; Republican Wildcat; ...

Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.

24 posted on 05/12/2004 4:32:30 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: My Favorite Headache
"John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962."

Correction

12 Feb 55 - President Eisenhower's administration sends 1st 350 U.S. advisers to South Vietnam
to train the South Vietnamese Army
08 Jun 56 - 1st American adviser was killed on June 08, 1956
5 Sep 56 - President Eisenhower tells a news conference that the French are
"involved in a hopelessly losing war in Indochina"
25 posted on 05/12/2004 4:46:37 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor)
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To: My Favorite Headache
>> I think history might show Eisenhower committed the troops and Kennedy was honoring that commitment.


I think not!!!
26 posted on 05/12/2004 4:47:27 PM PDT by The Raven (<<----Click Screen name to see why I vote the way I do.)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Thanks for the ping!
27 posted on 05/12/2004 7:26:32 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: breakem
Germany did attack american ships in the Atlantic. Germany declared war on the US before we declared war on them.

Don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

28 posted on 05/12/2004 7:33:21 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: My Favorite Headache
"There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq during the month of January..... in the fair city of Detroit (Michigan) there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's one American city folks, about as deadly as the entire war torn country of Iraq!"

That statistic is a load of crap. You're not comparing like with like. What you should be comparing is how many policemen were killed in Detroit in January not citizens by other citizens.

If you want to go the other way perhaps you should compare how many Iraqi citizens murdered other Iraqi citizens in the whole of Iraq in January. I'd be willing to bet my left nut that it was way more than 35. Actually I bet there was more than 35 in Bahgdad in any given week, let alone the whole of the country in one month.

What you seem to be suggesting is that Detroit is a more dangerous place, which it patently is not.
29 posted on 05/12/2004 7:58:32 PM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: MeekOneGOP
Thanks for the ping! This article is a keeper!
30 posted on 05/12/2004 8:29:33 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: My Favorite Headache
Thanks for posting this. I sent it out about 6 months ago (just a little different) to my email list. No bars held. to my known lib friends as well as strong conservatives.

You would NOT believe some of my lib associates (can't say friends anymore) responses.

No discussion on the facts presented... Just electronic yelling about what a warmonger Dubya is, how ashamed they are to be American's, stop sending me your right winged bull sh*t etc....

Typical lib response. We give facts & they give emotional empty rants
31 posted on 05/12/2004 9:32:18 PM PDT by DollyCali ("Trying to keep the Freepers pulling in the same direction is like trying to herd cats." Richard Poe)
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To: lilylangtree
funny one lily. Thanks
32 posted on 05/12/2004 9:33:03 PM PDT by DollyCali ("Trying to keep the Freepers pulling in the same direction is like trying to herd cats." Richard Poe)
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To: Mrs Zip; BOBWADE
ping
33 posted on 05/12/2004 10:02:41 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Very good article. Like I've been saying, Rummy is, mathematically speaking, the most successful S of D in US history.
34 posted on 05/13/2004 3:09:33 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Backhoe's Gorelick links: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1117579/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Er, very good email. I should have known this wasn't a journalist.
35 posted on 05/13/2004 3:10:08 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Backhoe's Gorelick links: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1117579/posts)
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To: My Favorite Headache
We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.

Hitlery never found all the Rose Law Firm billing records. There is evidence of certain odious activities in those that were discovered, but the "smoking gun" was not clear enough for the liberals to see there. (sounds a little like the WMD hunt to this time...)

In fact, I don't think Hitlery and her minions ever found them at all - it was some White House housekeeper...

36 posted on 05/13/2004 6:08:46 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: My Favorite Headache
BTTT
37 posted on 05/13/2004 7:56:32 AM PDT by EdReform
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